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Sparky
08-04-2014, 11:37
There is one at 1st and Wadsworth, one at Colfax and Wadsworth, and one at 44th and Harlan. Now they are proposing another at 38th and Wadsworth. Seems like a lot in one area.

Monky
08-04-2014, 11:38
They wouldn't do it if the demand and ability wasn't there. I hate the company personally but they do make $$$

MarkCO
08-04-2014, 11:41
58th & Independence is also planned.

StagLefty
08-04-2014, 11:49
Sounds like what Starbuck's did and then ended up closing several.

sniper7
08-04-2014, 12:01
I'm all for it if they can get some .22 in there!

tmckay2
08-04-2014, 12:31
1 per town is enough.

newracer
08-04-2014, 12:37
Several years a go they built one in north Loveland and closed the one in south Fort Collins. After a few years they re-opened the one in south fort Collins.

Irving
08-04-2014, 12:39
A cool, another Walmart with 25 check out lanes, and long lines because only 5 of them are ever staffed.

Skully
08-04-2014, 12:44
A cool, another Walmart with 25 check out lanes, and long lines because only 5 of them are ever staffed.

Amen, Ain't that the truth!

Makes you wonder why they put so many check out lanes in the first place, even at Xmas I never see ALL of them open. For what I buy at Walmart at any given visit I just use the self check out lanes, like I do with King Soopers, hate standing in line.

a98kdoc
08-04-2014, 12:44
up and down the front range there is a walmart every 5 miles in any direction you drive.
Fort Collins has 3 and one more just south in north Loveland.

Irving
08-04-2014, 12:46
Long lines indicates demand. They probably do that on purpose to make it easier to build more stores.

Aloha_Shooter
08-04-2014, 13:02
It's enough when supply meets demand. If they could make money with two of them across the street from each other then so be it.

speedysst
08-04-2014, 13:05
Along Sheridan there's one at 72nd, 92nd and 120th (a HUGE one). The one at 120th was the final nail in the coffin for the Kmart.

BlasterBob
08-04-2014, 13:22
Walmart in Hays, KS had a large sign on the gun counter cash register last Thursday 8/31, "We have NO .22's today".....

ray1970
08-04-2014, 14:39
If you drew a circle around my house on a map, maybe five or ten miles out, I think there would be five or six of them in that circle.

kidicarus13
08-04-2014, 14:53
Walmart in Hays, KS had a large sign on the gun counter cash register last Thursday 8/31, "We have NO .22's today".....

If local WM's had that sign posted on their front door I would have saved an extra 23 hours of my life by now.

Rooskibar03
08-04-2014, 15:32
Amazon Prime makes Walmart almost completely unnecessary in my life.

Jeffrey Lebowski
08-04-2014, 15:36
They wouldn't do it if the demand and ability wasn't there. I hate the company personally but they do make $$$

It is actually probably this:


Sounds like what Starbuck's did and then ended up closing several.

The SBux strategy wasn't to make money on all those outlets, it was to prevent others from coming in. Squeeze the market out, so to speak.
In just that little Applewood area, there used to be 4, but I believe there are still 3 in the parking lot.

I'm assuming Walmart is keeping Target away. Slightly different demographic, but similar concept and similar Real Estate needs.


Amazon Prime makes Walmart almost completely unnecessary in my life.

And I could not agree more.

cstone
08-04-2014, 17:04
I live near the Wally's on 136th and I25. That store was originally slated to be built on the east side of the same interchange. I attended many of the Thornton City Council meetings to fight against having that store on the east side. One of the Wally executives admitted during one of the meetings that the Wally strategy was to have a store ever five miles up and down I25. When questioned, they admitted that the knew demand would not likely support each of those stores, however, once they owned the land and improved it with a building, they controlled that space. The insinuation was that if they control it, their competitors could not.

Part of Wally's winning strategy is to drive their competition into the dirt. It may not be pretty, but it is effective.

Circuits
08-04-2014, 17:29
Amen, Ain't that the truth!

Makes you wonder why they put so many check out lanes in the first place, even at Xmas I never see ALL of them open. For what I buy at Walmart at any given visit I just use the self check out lanes, like I do with King Soopers, hate standing in line.
There is a master approved floor plan for each type of all their stores, and all are built to that plan. Local business conditions vary, though, and staffing choices are up to each store's management in order to keep labor costs in line.

Herman
08-04-2014, 20:01
Dude,you live in down town denver. Get over it. If you don't like walmart get out of the city[ROFL2]

Bailey Guns
08-04-2014, 20:15
Amazon Prime makes Walmart almost completely unnecessary in my life.

Yep. Amazon Prime makes a lot of stores unnecessary in my life.

ben4372
08-04-2014, 20:32
Not only is amazon prime fantastic, they have it. Too many times I've looked for something that was not in stock. They say they can order it. Is this something that should even be said? As of late most things I want are special order.

RonMexico
08-04-2014, 20:36
They are trying to squeeze kings, Safeway and target out of the market place. It's simple... If you can get people to buy groceries there, than kings and safe ways are obsolete.

cstone
08-04-2014, 20:38
They are trying to squeeze kings, Safeway and target out of the market place. It's simple... If you can get people to buy groceries there, than kings and safe ways are obsolete.

So they open more Walmart Neighborhood Markets.

hurley842002
08-04-2014, 21:07
So they open more Walmart Neighborhood Markets.

Just opened another neighborhood market up the street from us (North of 104th and Washington). Doesn't seem like it's had any affect on the Kings over there.

Irving
08-04-2014, 21:22
Just opened another neighborhood market up the street from us (North of 104th and Washington). Doesn't seem like it's had any affect on the Kings over there.

It's pretty small in there.

hurley842002
08-04-2014, 21:38
It's pretty small in there.

I can see that, also never looks very busy.

cstone
08-04-2014, 21:52
Just opened another neighborhood market up the street from us (North of 104th and Washington). Doesn't seem like it's had any affect on the Kings over there.

It certainly is busier than the old shopping center it replaced. Give it time. Between that market store and the super centers all around it, they will wear down the other stores. I would bet on the Albertsons at 120th and Washington being the first to go.

Do any of you fellow Thorntonians or Northglennites check out the freaky thrift in the old Safeway at Malley and Washington? That place is a hoot.

Great-Kazoo
08-04-2014, 22:33
My how quickly we forgot, or too young to remember, a 7-11 on every other corner. Smaller footprint, but a major presence, just the same.

brutal
08-04-2014, 22:56
Not only is amazon prime fantastic, they have it. Too many times I've looked for something that was not in stock. They say they can order it. Is this something that should even be said? As of late most things I want are special order.

This one always kills me.

No shit dipstick. I can order it on the intarwebz. Cheaper. I came here to get this widget because I'm impatient and want it NOW.

I like spending money locally in mom and pop shops, but fcuk walmart.

hurley842002
08-05-2014, 05:13
It certainly is busier than the old shopping center it replaced. Give it time. Between that market store and the super centers all around it, they will wear down the other stores. I would bet on the Albertsons at 120th and Washington being the first to go.

Do any of you fellow Thorntonians or Northglennites check out the freaky thrift in the old Safeway at Malley and Washington? That place is a hoot.

I've driven buy that thrift store a lot, but never been inside, maybe I'll have to check it out lol.

ZERO THEORY
08-05-2014, 05:43
Sounds like what Starbuck's did and then ended up closing several.

There was actually a discussion about why they did that with Louis CK of all people. Essentially, Starbucks would find a region they wanted to strengthen their presence in, put up new locations en masse until the local competitors lost too much business to remain open, and then closed the auxiliary locations since they could now get the customers to come to one or two central locations.

What a lot of really successful companies do is open locations that don't even turn a profit. It's essentially just a physical marketing site. People drive by the location, see it out of a train window, have it pop up in nearby attractions on webpages, etc. That branch may lose money, but the idea is that the net loss is negated by the gain in online sales and the push to mall and mainstay branches.

fj605
08-05-2014, 06:20
I heard Wal-Mart is changing their webpage over the next year. The new site will make product recommendations based on local weather conditions and attractions.

MrPrena
08-05-2014, 13:22
Speaking of Walmart at 112ish and Washington, I saw that one. I see more neighborhood market WMT a lot.
Although I like food shopping at Costco, I actually save more money food shopping at Walmart. The bulk package thing is great for big family, but not for me.

Mom/Pop stores can be great, but I generally don't like their services, return policies, prices.
When mom/pop stores become successful, what happens is they will just buy a bigger house and bigger car. More $$ into their pocket.
When big corporation becomes successful, I actually can make $$$ by picking up some shares/options and dividends (if they pay div).

Why would my wife go to Jane Doe's cosmetics worrying about exchange policy, price, and potential services?
She can simply go to Dillard's and get whatever she wants not worry about exchange policy, and support the company she owns shares in?

Aloha_Shooter
08-05-2014, 13:39
For all the haters on this thread, how would you feel if the OP's question was reframed thus:
"how many guns in one house are enough?"

The company is and should be free to lose money by oversaturating the market if they want. Many companies have done so in the past and suffered the repercussions. "How much is enough" is a question that should be decided solely by the economics of the situation and then only by the person or company that stands to make or lose money.

MrPrena
08-05-2014, 13:45
For all the haters on this thread, how would you feel if the OP's question was reframed thus:
"how many guns in one house are enough?"

The company is and should be free to lose money by oversaturating the market if they want. Many companies have done so in the past and suffered the repercussions. "How much is enough" is a question that should be decided solely by the economics of the situation and then only by the person or company that stands to make or lose money.


Krispy Kreme was a good example 11-12 years ago. Heavy expansion. When expansion game ends again, they will mainly look at the same store sales data.
I see a huge bubble in those restaurant chains just recently went public.

kidicarus13
08-05-2014, 15:08
The company is and should be free to lose money by oversaturating the market if they want. Many companies have done so in the past and suffered the repercussions. "How much is enough" is a question that should be decided solely by the economics of the situation and then only by the person or company that stands to make or lose money.

I support a free market system and Walmart knows the system well.

Jeffrey Lebowski
08-05-2014, 19:04
Krispy Kreme was a good example 11-12 years ago. Heavy expansion. When expansion game ends again, they will mainly look at the same store sales data.
I see a huge bubble in those restaurant chains just recently went public.


This is what sunk Boston Market as well.