View Full Version : So who here does Crossfit? (please no Crossfit haters... it's played out)
Just curious who here does Crossfit. Some of you may recall that I did a juice fast (https://www.ar-15.co/threads/109767-Anyone-here-ever-done-a-juice-diet?highlight=crossfit) about this time last year and managed to lose about 30lbs doing so. I've managed to put 5lbs or so if it back on but I'll still take 20-25lbs of weight loss from doing barely anything for a few weeks every time. At the time I had a lot of life things going on and was unable to commit to a set schedule three nights a week for three weeks. I know it's not for everyone but this thread isn't about juice fasts so if you would like to debate the healthiness of that approach I linked the juice fast thread in the first line so feel free to click it and argue away. There's no denying that I'm 25lbs lighter and as a result my first class of Crossfit was probably made a little bit easier. That being said....
Phase 2 of my getting healthy: Crossfit
Last night was my first of nine fundamentals class at Crossfit DNR in Fort Collins. Wow it kicked my ass. My hammies were cramping up 5min into it and it made it a REAL struggle to get through. I hope that tomorrow night they're stretched out and I can get through the workout w/o cramps because that would be a night & day difference. That being said this is a fantastic workout from just about every aspect. I've done it all at this point in my life... cardio, lifting/cardio, sports, nothing... just about everything one could do to affect their health and this is probably the most complete workout I've done. There's a lot of science to it from a biology standpoint too and I'm not sure why the weight lifters I know bash on it. It incorporates cardio, strength, stamina, balance, flexibility... all the stuff you would want to hit basically and puts it together in a way that makes it fun and competitive. In the end, if someone finds something that works for them and they're not adding to the statistic of fattest nation in the world what does it matter what they do? But, I digress. I've been motivated by watching late-night Crossfit competitions on ESPN to do something with myself and now I'm excited to actually be doing it. I know it was only one class but it whooped my ass and today I have that long-missed feeling of accomplishment that I feel every time I try to sit up or bend a leg to sit down.
"Pain is weakness leaving the body"
Love it and this feeling is addictive. Oh how I missed it.
So who else here gets theys Crossfit on?
I've done it on and off for years. I'm certainly no CF hater, but it got very hard on my body and I've backed off. For developing street fight fitness I think it's excellent. I miss it, but my shoulders won the argument. The very fittest I've ever been was last year about this time when my training for the SAC was just ending. That was 90 minute CF sessions 4 days a week and rucking 2 days. I was a tank until the shoulders gave up.
With the exception of a year-and-a-half absence (where I got fat), I've been CrossFitting regularly for a bit over five years.
In that time, I've come to really like most of the things embodied by CrossFit and much of the culture that surrounds it.
The best pieces of advice I can give you are these:
1.) Find a gym with a supportive staff and client culture. If they aren't interested in helping you achieve your goals, or don't seem to give you proper coaching on technique, find a different CrossFit gym.
2.) Listen to your body, engage with the coaches, and scale the WODs appropriately. The WODs are specifically designed to be extremely challenging even for someone who is exceptionally athletic. If there's something you're not sure about, reduce the weight, ask for coaching, and substitute an exercise you know you can do with proper form.
3.) Get a notebook and log your workouts, and keep track of things like performance on baseline WODs (the girls) and 1, 3, and 5 rep maxes for the weight lifting moves.
4.) Start doing stretches and other forms of mobility work like rolling out on a foam roller and tennis ball. Go here for lots of good info:
http://www.mobilitywod.com/
I have/had a lot of mobility issues in my upper body, and this caused a lot of problems with being able to execute things with proper form. I found that going to the gym early and doing some mobility work helped out. Getting a foam roller and rolling out at home is also a good idea.
5.) In addition to scaling WODs for proper technique, scale for intensity. Many of them are programmed to be short, fast, and intense bursts. If you do the WOD as prescribed, but it takes you 40 minutes to complete a 15ish minute workout, you're going about it wrong.
6.) if you opt to supplement, start with the basics. Vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium, and maybe creatine monohydrate. Check any supplements against the data at examine.com.
7.) The paleo diet works (at least it did for me) but it's a pain in the ass to stick to, and almost impossible if your spouse isn't on board with it.
Not hating but felt I should clarify this "I'm not sure why the weight lifters I know bash on it.".
The reason there is some "hate" against crossfit is the general elitist attitude that crossfit people bring. Add that in with the fact since it's only a 2 day course to get certified to open a CF gym, it allows for A LOT of misinformation/form. There are a lot of specialized motions that should not be done in jerky/swinging motions.
I agree that being active with anything is WAY better than sitting on the couch hating on others. It really comes down to what you want to do and what you enjoy. Bodybuilding isn't crossfit and crossfit isn't bodybuilding.
Way to get active and help yourself though. Like others said, make sure you have quality instructors and you'll be fine.
With the exception of a year-and-a-half absence (where I got fat), I've been CrossFitting regularly for a bit over five years.
In that time, I've come to really like most of the things embodied by CrossFit and much of the culture that surrounds it.
The best pieces of advice I can give you are these:
1.) Find a gym with a supportive staff and client culture. If they aren't interested in helping you achieve your goals, or don't seem to give you proper coaching on technique, find a different CrossFit gym.
2.) Listen to your body, engage with the coaches, and scale the WODs appropriately. The WODs are specifically designed to be extremely challenging even for someone who is exceptionally athletic. If there's something you're not sure about, reduce the weight, ask for coaching, and substitute an exercise you know you can do with proper form.
3.) Get a notebook and log your workouts, and keep track of things like performance on baseline WODs (the girls) and 1, 3, and 5 rep maxes for the weight lifting moves.
4.) Start doing stretches and other forms of mobility work like rolling out on a foam roller and tennis ball. Go here for lots of good info:
http://www.mobilitywod.com/
I have/had a lot of mobility issues in my upper body, and this caused a lot of problems with being able to execute things with proper form. I found that going to the gym early and doing some mobility work helped out. Getting a foam roller and rolling out at home is also a good idea.
5.) In addition to scaling WODs for proper technique, scale for intensity. Many of them are programmed to be short, fast, and intense bursts. If you do the WOD as prescribed, but it takes you 40 minutes to complete a 15ish minute workout, you're going about it wrong.
6.) if you opt to supplement, start with the basics. Vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium, and maybe creatine monohydrate. Check any supplements against the data at examine.com.
7.) The paleo diet works (at least it did for me) but it's a pain in the ass to stick to, and almost impossible if your spouse isn't on board with it.
Thanks for the detailed response. I'll address the points you made w/numbers to try to make it easier to keep things organized.
1. The gym I'm going to was opened by some friends of mine. They're quite helpful/friendly & the trainer to student ratio is very good. They explained the ratio to us and based on most Crossfit gyms the ratios here are really good.
2. Good advice and I will certainly pay attention to this as I get more involved.
3. I need to do this. I never kept a journal when I lifted and felt like I needed to but didn't know how/where to start. I will look into this for Crossfit to be able to refer to where I was or am as I progress.
4. My wife has one of those foam rollers so now I just need to use it. I'm fairly flexible for a guy of my size and even the trainers commented on how much range of mobility I had for the first class. I did have some cramping in my legs though and they have me some leg stretches to work on at home to try to get them relaxed. Right now the cramping thing is my #1 priority.
5. I did tons of supplements when I lifted and had hoped to get away from it. I know that I won't stay 100% supplement-free but I plan to keep it basic when I do start.
6. I've heard good things about that. I may also look into this as I've heard it works well in conjunction w/Crossfit. I think that my wife would be onboard if it seemed like something that would be beneficial to us.
Not hating but felt I should clarify this "I'm not sure why the weight lifters I know bash on it.".
The reason there is some "hate" against crossfit is the general elitist attitude that crossfit people bring. Add that in with the fact since it's only a 2 day course to get certified to open a CF gym, it allows for A LOT of misinformation/form. There are a lot of specialized motions that should not be done in jerky/swinging motions.
I agree that being active with anything is WAY better than sitting on the couch hating on others. It really comes down to what you want to do and what you enjoy. Bodybuilding isn't crossfit and crossfit isn't bodybuilding.
Way to get active and help yourself though. Like others said, make sure you have quality instructors and you'll be fine.
A few points of clarification... Having not been a Crossfiter and being neutral I can say that the weight lifters are WAY more critical of Crossfit and I feel like a lot of what I saw Crossfiters do was defend more than anything. The constant and unwarranted attacks would tend to make any group a little bit less willing to reach out. The constant barrage of attacks by those who lift can't possibly be helping to break down the walls of 'elitism' as you called it. That being said... just like any group, a few bad apples can spoil the bunch.
That two day course is more than is required to open a regular gym.
There are a few motions I've seen while watching Crossfit competitions that to me look terrible. Now, these are VERY experienced athletes competing at the height of their sport and well know that big boy rules apply when you're that far along so my guess is their bodies are slowly hardened over time to these sorts of motions but agree that some look bad. If I'm ever told by a trainer to do something that I don't feel is right or doesn't seem sound I simply won't do it. Over time if I get to the point where my muscles and joints are much stronger than they are now and I feel like those same movements would be easier to handle then I may change my mind but I agree that there are some things that just look... odd.. in Crossfit. Then again, even having lifted for years there are some movements in lifting that I always felt were odd too even when I trained with proper form for a length of time. I think that's just part of the nature of either one really but I plan to do my best to avoid injury no matter what I do.
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
I've been doing CrossFit for about 6 years.. minus a year break, where I broke my back (not really crossfit's fault).
Biggest thing is listen to your body. Drink lots of water. The weight will move up quickly at first... it will slow down. I started over last Oct.. and I'm taking it super super slow.. but coming millimeters from being paralyzed I'm ok with taking it slow. I've just started deadlifting again. I will not go over 250# squatting ever again. Personal choice. I know if I went for a 1RM i'd be well over 300.. but I won't. I was at 355# BS, 435 Dead, and had a BW clean/jerk/snatch when I broke my back. No warning on it.
You're going to be sore. You're going to be tired. You're going to push yourself and your body. Give yourself ample rest. If you fail at a lift don't be discouraged, try it again next time. Form is EVERYTHING. You can be ripped and fail at a lift due to form. Hopefully they stress that.
The best thing you will (hopefully) find is that that loudest cheers will come for those who finish last..
Interesting that you posted this thread as I have been looking into Crossfit. Some guys I work with are all about it and my wife wants to get into it. Who knows some good Crossfit gyms in the C-Springs area?
I know of a few good ones from Denver north but nothing that far south. That's why I started the thread though since it seems like a few people benefited from the juice fast thread. Whatever motivates people to get healthy man.
At my box they do things differently now... the strength portion of the day is tiered. Meaning you have to build a good base before you start the difficult lifts. A person just starting should NOT be doing Oly lifts when they can't even DL their BW. I like the philosophy.. owner brought it back from a 2 week camp he went to last year. The WOD is still the WOD.. but we typically have a strength session prior. I can't wait till I get to start OLY lifting again.. I like the movements.. they kick your ass. I just never seem to be able to make it for the night of Deads to get my 3 BW deads..
ZERO THEORY
08-05-2014, 17:25
I'll respect your rules and not just trash it. But respectfully, it is by its very design an inefficient system that inherently plateaus gains in strength and size, and is rather dangerous given the "programming" and coach quality.
I'm not trying to sell you or dissuade you, but I always wish everyone the best and would be glad to point you in a direction that will safely and effectively get you leaner, stronger, and take your cardiovascular/respiratory/musculoskeletal endurance far beyond their reaches.
I will say that crossfit generally has a much more accepting crowd, or so it seems. MOST people I know fear walking into a lifting gym if they've never been due to the feeling of being mocked/looked down upon/etc. I think the biggest attraction to crossfit for people is the sense of community you get relatively quickly. Group workouts are always more welcoming to beginners.
Ive met a lot of good friends through my gym but it wasn't right off the bat.
blacklabel
08-05-2014, 20:25
I'll respect your rules and not just trash it. But respectfully, it is by its very design an inefficient system that inherently plateaus gains in strength and size, and is rather dangerous given the "programming" and coach quality.
The programming can definitely be suspect when combined with poor form/technique. My only suggestion is to read up on programming and learn what is and isn't acceptable rather than trusting your back, shoulders and ACLs to someone else. Crossfit as a whole has done more than any other fitness movement to get people pick up a barbell and I will never fault it for that.
ZERO THEORY
08-05-2014, 20:56
Crossfit as a whole has done more than any other fitness movement to get people pick up a barbell and I will never fault it for that.
I'm with you there. I remember dying to find a gym with platforms when I was younger. Now it's so much simpler; assuming the Crossfit gym will let you do so at your convenience (and without paying over the odds). This sentiment is echoed by Rippetoe in Crossfit: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly (http://www.t-nation.com/training/crossfit-the-good-bad-and-the-ugly).
I'm glad that it's finally "cool" to be in shape. I'm also glad that people who otherwise would've settled for mediocrity for fear of a hostile environment are no longer afraid of going to the gym. I'm glad that the competition between gyms is flooding cities, towns, and truck stops with a place to exercise. And Jer is far better off doing Crossfit than doing nothing at all.
Some guys I work with are all about it and my wife wants to get into it. Who knows some good Crossfit gyms in the C-Springs area?
I've been at Progressive Fitness Crossfit for a couple of weeks now, (my old gym closed a couple of weeks ago) and have been pleased with them.
I also hear good things about 719 as well.
SOCO has a nice facility, but the number of participants at the evening WODs makes for a session that's larger than I want, and the coaching was slightly impersonal as a result.
I'll respect your rules and not just trash it. But respectfully, it is by its very design an inefficient system that inherently plateaus gains in strength and size,
Different goals for different folks. Not everyone wants to be enormous, especially if it comes with a penalty to stamina or mobility. The point of CrossFit is to be well-rounded in a variety of things, rather than a specialist in one thing.
This isn't to talk smack at weight lifters. If your goal is to be really, really good at lifting heavy things, a strict lifting regimen is the way to go.
and is rather dangerous given the "programming" and coach quality.
I must have lucked out, because I have yet to encounter a coach who's lackadaisical or incompetent, despite the fact that they seem to exist all over the internet. At the end of the day, though, you have to look after yourself and know your limits.
I'm glad that it's finally "cool" to be in shape. I'm also glad that people who otherwise would've settled for mediocrity for fear of a hostile environment are no longer afraid of going to the gym. I'm glad that the competition between gyms is flooding cities, towns, and truck stops with a place to exercise. And Jer is far better off doing Crossfit than doing nothing at all.
Agree completely.
Thanks to the neckless guys at the CSP Academy that we did our academy PT through they got me hooked on crossfit. Our workouts were mostly consisting of the Girls (google it, but be warned, your soul will hurt)... A lot of them I lack the equipment to do, but I do what I can. I love how short and furious it is, the downside, it's a real ass kicker at the start. But worth it!
Day 2 was last night and it was MUCH easier than Monday night. Today I'm still sore but it's a normal kind of muscle sore so I feel pretty good now. Sounds like tomorrow night will be another difficult class to set us up nice for the weekend but so far so good. Also, after looking into it more I think we've been doing a modified version of the Paleo diet since my juice fast last year. I still have a yogurt occasionally in the morning for breakfast but other than that we have pretty much cut out dairy, bread, pasta, grain, etc. I don't know if I'm going to tweak my diet a heck of a lot from what it is right now other than portion sizes here and there and cleaning up a few things. I know that diet and exercise is ideal but now that I'm actually active I need to make sure to feed my body the nutrients it needs so I'm not going to go too crazy from where I am now. The level of activity I'm getting will make a substantial difference in my body composition & health to be sure.
ZERO THEORY
08-07-2014, 21:28
Probably the single best post ever regarding calculating your nutrient intake needs:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=121703981
Probably the single best post ever regarding calculating your nutrient intake needs:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=121703981
Thanks for the link. Been a member over there for a little over a decade now but rarely used it even back when I was lifting. Not really my crowd to put it lightly. I'll take a look at that thread though as I know there is some good information there it's just wading through all the BS to find it that I gave up on.
Dude...the dickheadery there (bb.com) is unbelievable. It's unfortunate because there are quite a few knowledgeable members there.
ZERO THEORY
08-08-2014, 05:53
Thanks for the link. Been a member over there for a little over a decade now but rarely used it even back when I was lifting. Not really my crowd to put it lightly. I'll take a look at that thread though as I know there is some good information there it's just wading through all the BS to find it that I gave up on.
Dude...the dickheadery there (bb.com) is unbelievable. It's unfortunate because there are quite a few knowledgeable members there.
There are some really knowledgable people over there, including Will who regularly posts on M4C's fitness boards. Lots of athletes, coaches, Oly lifters, power lifters, etc. Unfortunately, the Bodybuilding name attracts a lot of the dudebromans who just want to look like Johnny Bravo. But with some search function prowess, you can find a plethora of info on endurance and sport-based Strength & Conditioning while avoiding the broscience.
hurley842002
08-08-2014, 07:11
There are some really knowledgable people over there, including Will who regularly posts on M4C's fitness boards. Lots of athletes, coaches, Oly lifters, power lifters, etc. Unfortunately, the Bodybuilding name attracts a lot of the dudebromans who just want to look like Johnny Bravo. But with some search function prowess, you can find a plethora of info on endurance and sport-based Strength & Conditioning while avoiding the broscience.
Never get tired of reading Will's posts, he is a huge wealth of knowledge. Sometimes that's the only reason I go over to M4C.
There are some really knowledgable people over there, including Will who regularly posts on M4C's fitness boards. Lots of athletes, coaches, Oly lifters, power lifters, etc. Unfortunately, the Bodybuilding name attracts a lot of the dudebromans who just want to look like Johnny Bravo. But with some search function prowess, you can find a plethora of info on endurance and sport-based Strength & Conditioning while avoiding the broscience.
Yep, don't care. The internet is a big place and when the douche quotient exceeds a certain amount it's not even worth trying to wade through the sewage to try to find a gem. BB.com has exceeded that hundreds of times over. I can find plenty of decent information w/o needing to go to that site so that's what I do. Sad that site staff doesn't even care about the piss poor attitude present there and some seem to actually encourage it. The funny part is that BB.com is a microcosm of gym mentality and part of why I couldn't bring myself to get back into lifting again when I wanted to get back into shape. They knock Crossfit but the bottom line is the attitude & culture is substantially better in the Crossfit gyms I've been to. There's a reason that traditional gyms are a dying business venture and it's generally the attitude of it's members. When a guy like me who was a meat-head by nature refuses to go back to that life chooses Crossfit it's a sign that something ain't working and IMO BB.com embodies everything that's wrong with Body Building. Sure there are a few good apples who know their shit but it's just not worth it IMO.
I just worked out at Progressive Crossfit this morning in the Springs. They had my spousal unit and I run through a warm-up, a baseline evaluation, and then a traditional workout that they were doing that day. It was a gasser to say the least. The gym had a good vibe and people were very nice and accommodating of the noobs. My wife really liked it and has a crush on our coach for the day. Might have to keep an eye on her working there on her own! All and all I was impressed and they offer 3 free workouts there so we will be giving those a shot and looking into other area gyms.
ZERO THEORY
08-10-2014, 12:59
Yep, don't care. The internet is a big place and when the douche quotient exceeds a certain amount it's not even worth trying to wade through the sewage to try to find a gem. BB.com has exceeded that hundreds of times over. I can find plenty of decent information w/o needing to go to that site so that's what I do. Sad that site staff doesn't even care about the piss poor attitude present there and some seem to actually encourage it. The funny part is that BB.com is a microcosm of gym mentality and part of why I couldn't bring myself to get back into lifting again when I wanted to get back into shape. They knock Crossfit but the bottom line is the attitude & culture is substantially better in the Crossfit gyms I've been to. There's a reason that traditional gyms are a dying business venture and it's generally the attitude of it's members. When a guy like me who was a meat-head by nature refuses to go back to that life chooses Crossfit it's a sign that something ain't working and IMO BB.com embodies everything that's wrong with Body Building. Sure there are a few good apples who know their shit but it's just not worth it IMO.
Well bodybuilding=/=lifting, and lifting in a gym does not automatically denote trying to get comically large or get beach muscles. But I see your point about the BB.com site. I like the sense of community, and everyone is always friendly at Crossfit gyms. I was using a Crossfit facility for a while since it was the only place on the way to work with platforms and Oly bars, and people were always smiling and saying hello which you won't get from the 18 year old bros at 24 Hour Fitness.
My only real gripe with Crossfitters as people is that a month in, they often perceive themselves as fitness experts and have to take to social media to brag about how "my workout is their warmup" (LOL), what the WOD was, and memes about Paleo. This is as obnoxious as the equally large portion of commercial gym goers who want to spit out broscience, take 16 supps, and flex in the mirror after each set.
tmleadr03
08-10-2014, 13:13
Well bodybuilding=/=lifting, and lifting in a gym does not automatically denote trying to get comically large or get beach muscles. But I see your point about the BB.com site. I like the sense of community, and everyone is always friendly at Crossfit gyms. I was using a Crossfit facility for a while since it was the only place on the way to work with platforms and Oly bars, and people were always smiling and saying hello which you won't get from the 18 year old bros at 24 Hour Fitness.
My only real gripe with Crossfitters as people is that a month in, they often perceive themselves as fitness experts and have to take to social media to brag about how "my workout is their warmup" (LOL), what the WOD was, and memes about Paleo. This is as obnoxious as the equally large portion of commercial gym goers who want to spit out broscience, take 16 supps, and flex in the mirror after each set.
I just lift things up and put them down.
osok-308
08-10-2014, 13:24
I've recently started doing crossfit workouts. Good stuff. I don't think it's the be all and end all of workouts, but i have increased my stamina and lost some weight. I don't know if it's the best for just gaining raw strength. But it's a good solid workout.
So, what exactly is "cross fit" anyways? I have a former coworker who is really into it. He even does competitions of some sort and does quite well from what I gather.
I'm sure if it involves cardio or lifting anything heavy it isn't for me.
I'm just curious mostly.
tmleadr03
08-10-2014, 14:44
So, what exactly is "cross fit" anyways? I have a former coworker who is really into it. He even does competitions of some sort and does quite well from what I gather.
I'm sure if it involves cardio or lifting anything heavy it isn't for me.
I'm just curious mostly.
As far as I can tell it involves lots of women in underwear working out.
But that is all that google is showing.
http://muscleandbrawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/crossfit-women-2.jpg
http://muscleandbrawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tire-hot.jpg
As far as I can tell it involves lots of women in underwear working out.
Well, it can't be that difficult then. I mean if women can do it. [Coffee]
Well, it can't be that difficult then. I mean if women can do it. [Coffee]
That's why I don't do it. Too easy.
ZERO THEORY
08-10-2014, 18:44
http://i.imgur.com/WWmsAQd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KJUu9Wb.jpg
So, what exactly is "cross fit" anyways? I have a former coworker who is really into it. He even does competitions of some sort and does quite well from what I gather.
I'm sure if it involves cardio or lifting anything heavy it isn't for me.
I'm just curious mostly.
Looking at the pics online it is not something fat people do
Looking at the pics online it is not something fat people do
I'm learning that the hard way. Three classes in & I've already managed to pull a hammy.
Judging by recent pics....I need to start crossfitting! Yowza!
SamuraiCO
08-11-2014, 09:35
My buddies studio in Aurora (Premier White Tiger Martial Arts/Southlands crossfit) at Smokey Hill and Gun Glub their cross fit instructors are very aware of safety and push proper form. They will start with a foundations class and keep harping on it because they don't want hurt members. You are under no pressure to go full weight with the work our routines. It is more important you have proper form so your progress can be safe.
Generally weight lifters don't like it because it infringes on their territory. Cross fit emphasizes overall fitness with improved muscle tone and cardio. Think what recruits look like before and after basic training and not muscle bound with no cardio. Weight lifting has its place with certain sports such as football where bulk muscle and explosive power is most important. But in real life I would rather have the muscle tone and cardio.
I need to get back for the cross fit at least. My schedule is so jacked now I don't get in the evening to do Krav. I have a heavy bag at home that I use a lot.
2. Good advice and I will certainly pay attention to this as I get more involved.
I'm learning that the hard way. Three classes in & I've already managed to pull a hammy.
I had to chuckle a little bit at this. :) I do hope it heals up quick so you can get back in ASAP.
Looking at the pics online it is not something fat people do
Fat people do it all the time and they lose weight... Those pictures are not indicative of people who first start working out... they've been at it for a while. With proper diet AND exercise they end up like that.
I'm learning that the hard way. Three classes in & I've already managed to pull a hammy.
I had to chuckle a little bit at this. :) I do hope it heals up quick so you can get back in ASAP.
I had to /facepalm at that. Take it easy Jer.. stretch.. and warm up properly.
I had to chuckle a little bit at this. :) I do hope it heals up quick so you can get back in ASAP.
The problem was that as I was cramping I tried to lower my intensity and keep going. I believe I may have pulled it at this time (Class 1 on Monday before I even posted this) but couldn't really tell since my muscles were all so sore anyway. Wednesday was a little but better but still sore obviously. Then, before I went to my class on Friday night I was out working in the garage and I bent over to pick something up with a straight left left and felt a pop and believe this is when I did a bulk of the damage. In class I actually took it easy and avoided movements that used my legs (air squats & such) but I think a bulk of the damage was already done outside of Crossfit and I've even made it worse over the weekend even though I've been trying to take it easy and rest the leg. Every now and then you do something just right and there's a shooting pain again and I know I probably just undid any progress I made in healing. I'm frustrated because tonight is class 4 and I know that at best I'm going to miss out on a LOT of fundamental movements and at worst I won't get to do anything at all if the trainers decide to not let me participate at all which is a very likely scenario at this point. I don't want to miss a month of exercise but at this point that may just be the wisest of approaches. Take this month off and then in a couple of weeks when I'm feeling better I can start with some stretching and jogging and then when they start the fundamentals classes over again I will be more ready to handle what I throw at my body. In The trainer's and Crossfit's defense it wasn't their fault... it was my own. They showed us how to scale every single movement down to our ability to not kill ourselves and like a bonehead I decided that perfect form and absolute perfection was all that would do. I shoulda cheated a lot more and scaled down here and there as they showed us and even stressed that we should do that. What an idiot and I have only myself to blame really.
Does Crossfit have you doing movements where stretching is recommended, rather than just warming up? For instance, I never stretch before a run because running doesn't require movement outside of my regular range of motion; however I certainly warm up before running.
Fat people do it all the time and they lose weight... Those pictures are not indicative of people who first start working out... they've been at it for a while. With proper diet AND exercise they end up like that.
There are people of all body types & skill levels at our Crossfit gym. There is this one girl in fact that if most of you saw her you would probably think she was fat and lazy. She's one of the strongest girls there and works out like a beast. It's just that she hasn't been doing it long enough to be ripped looking but I assure you, she would work most of us on this forum in most capacities. I told my wife that will be me someday where I will be strong and in shape but still look like a bit fat tub of goo. lol
I had to /facepalm at that. Take it easy Jer.. stretch.. and warm up properly.
I do warm up and stretch. I was there an hour early each class stretching and warming up when nobody else in the class was. The reason I even did this was because I have a past of cramping when playing sports. Ever since I was a kid when we would start 2-a-days for football I would cramp up bad the first week or two and it wouldn't matter how many bananas, how much water or how much stretching I would do. I was often one of the most limber guys on the team even at 225lbs because of how much stretching I did and how serious I took it. Some people are just prone to cramps and unfortunately I fall into that category. The injury just sucks because it throws a real wrench in the gears as far as how I had planned my first month. Life is what happens when all of your plans don't work at exactly as expected I guess.
ZERO THEORY
08-11-2014, 13:18
Cross fit emphasizes overall fitness with improved muscle tone and cardio...But in real life I would rather have the muscle tone and cardio.
Muscle "tone" is achieved by lowering body fat to pronounce the muscle fibers. There is no such thing as "toning" muscles via activity or exercise. You can get "tone" by simply eating below maintenance (macronutrient expenditure). You can have just as much muscle tone by working your body composition in Oly lifting/powerlifting/bro splits. If you're referring to sarcosplasmic vs myofibrillar hypertrophy, that's a different can of worms.
Secondly, lifting weights in a format outside of the Crossfit prescription in no way prohibits cardiovascular, respiratory, or musculoskeletal endurance. There is more than one way to skin a cat, but one of the most brilliant marketing devices Crossfit affiliates employ is suggesting that Crossfit has some sort of special ability to make you a more well-rounded athlete, and that without Crossfit, there's no way you can be strong, flexible, and have endurance simultaneously.
I will debunk the myth for you. Crossfit is circuit training that utilizes dynamic programming. That's it. No more, no less. You don't do the cleans in any special way, you don't do the burpees in a way that facilitates better fitness compared to any other form, and you don't run any different than a track and field athlete. It works well for non-athletes because they aren't used to stimulus that both exhausts their ATP stores and increases their heart rate. But it does not have special abilities in regards to making you more lean, giving you more stamina, or getting you stronger.
Lastly, Rich Froning along with virtually every other top Crossfitter have had to explain on numerous occasions that they don't do Crossfit to get to the top of their game; it won't let them. They use traditional strength and stamina programs to push them to their physical peak, since Crossfit by nature doesn't offer progressive overload or individualized programming.
RonMexico
08-11-2014, 13:39
Does Crossfit have you doing movements where stretching is recommended, rather than just warming up? For instance, I never stretch before a run because running doesn't require movement outside of my regular range of motion; however I certainly warm up before running.
Every time I've worked out at a box they've had dynamic warmup that involves a total body warm up and a moderate stretch.
I will debunk the myth for you. Crossfit is circuit training that utilizes dynamic programming. That's it. No more, no less. You don't do the cleans in any special way, you don't do the burpees in a way that facilitates better fitness compared to any other form, and you don't run any different than a track and field athlete. It works well for non-athletes because they aren't used to stimulus that both exhausts their ATP stores and increases their heart rate.
There's nothing in CrossFit that's a secret. The movements have all been around forever, and if you want to CrossFit on your own, there's nothing stopping anyone from going to the main site or even the website of a local gym, and following the WOD every single day for free. Probably the most unique thing about CrossFit exercise is the pairing of weightlifting movements while on the clock, but I'm sure that even there, CF isn't the first to come up with that particular idea.
What it does do, generally, is offer a form of exercise programming far and away more effective than the typical "go to the gym and run on a treadmill while reading a magazine" programming that most people do on their own.
Lastly, Rich Froning along with virtually every other top Crossfitter have had to explain on numerous occasions that they don't do Crossfit to get to the top of their game; it won't let them. They use traditional strength and stamina programs to push them to their physical peak, since Crossfit by nature doesn't offer progressive overload or individualized programming.
And the cars in NASCAR aren't stock.
First two weeks down and I feel better. Unfortunately I tore/pulled my left hamstring (had cramping the first night and fought through which did more harm than good) so my workouts have been limited to upper body for the most part. That being said I'm still getting VERY good workouts. It's kind of mind boggling because back when I did cardio/lifted a injured hammy would have meant your workouts were VERY limited. Only a few movements and it would be difficult to get a good cardio/lift workout. I've been able to observe the fundamentals class and then when they put them into action the trainers came up with a workout I could do on the fly that was both challenging and fulfilling. I ran out of breath and had to push through just like the other people in the class who had use of their lower body. Naturally I'm bummed I can't do the lower body workouts but at the same time I really felt like I've got good workouts even though my knowledge of movements to this point are very basic. I can only imagine that once I've been doing this for a while and learn the more advanced movements that I could get even more out of an all upper body workout. That being said, my hamstring is starting to feel better and I'm chomping at the bit to get going again. I suck at running and really need to work on that so getting this sucker back to service will go a long ways in my overall advancement and fitness.
Oh, I almost forgot.... Since I was wearing a pair of grass-stained New Balance walking shoes that I use to mow as my Crossfit shoes I decided to get some real shoes. Popped out to the Reebok Outlet store and scored a pair of Bronco orance Reebok Crossfit Nano 2.0's for only $40 plus got some no-show Reebok socks for half off on top of that, or like $2.50 per pair. Much better quality than the Walmart special socks I wear currently. The wife scored the same model of shoe in her size in a gray/blue color and also got some socks and the guy even threw in a few pair of $15 long socks she can wear to work (dental assistant) for free. At first it was like Bazaro world because they had several size 13 & 14 shoes for me to choose from and no size 8 for her which is a common size. After some digging they managed to find her size in what would've been the shoe she wanted anyway so it worked out but we were confused at first as we had both reversed rolls in shoe shopping for the first time ever. All in all we got like $300 worth of stuff for less than $100. I know these won't make me any more healthy or better at movements but they might save me from spraining an ankle or something which in theory could make me more healthy. ;-)
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Love those kicks!
I've been wearing them around the last couple of days since buying them to break them in and they're about the most comfortable shoes I've ever wore. I have a feeling that when I'm wearing Denver Broncos orange in the warmer months these will be my wear around shoes too. They're that comfortable. I'm about to head out the door to Crossfit to try them out for the primary purpose they were purchased so we'll see how they do. Anything is better than my grass stained lawn mowing shoes. lol
hurley842002
08-18-2014, 18:37
Love those kicks!
I'm not normally into the real bright colors, but I'd definitely rock those!
That's a good price for Nanos.
I'm not normally into the real bright colors, but I'd definitely rock those!
Of all the choices in my size this was the only color available in the Nano 2.0... or the $40 ones. Not to say these would have been my first choice but being a Bronco fan (and wearing an orange Broncos shirt when trying them on) helped to make me alright with the choice. I could get other colors or styles but all were more expensive and it wasn't going to be worth the added price for me to get a different color or newer style. The way I see it, the 3.0's will be close to what I paid for the 2.0's in 6mos or so and assuming I get as much use out of these shoes as I hope to maybe I'll 'upgrade' to them at that point. Either way I'll still be into them for less than a pair of the 3.0's now plus I'll have enough experience to know what it is I want/need in a shoe for this use. As of now I still don't know what I'm doing and was barely able to jog again last night coming off of a hamstring injury so I'm in no position to judge what makes the 3.0 better than the 2.0 right now. Just happy to have a pair of shoes made for the purpose I use them for at this point and only needing to pay $40 is the icing on the cake.
That's a good price for Nanos.
Yeah it is. I lucked out that the 4.0's are now out which is lowering the cost of the 3.0's slightly and the 2.0's a lot and that they happened to have the 2.0's in my size. The Nano's seem to run a full size smaller than my other shoes but have a larger toe box so they fit my wide feet better. In my limited use last night I give these shoes two huge thumbs up. I think they'll work just fine.
I'm still using my 2.0s. I HATE running in them. Can't run in flat shoes since I broke my back... which totally sucks because I loved running in my Innov8s. I can do about a mile and then I feel it.. so.. I take three pairs of shoes to the gym.. Oly shoes, nano, and running shoes.. it sucks at times, but it is what it is.
Apparently the 3.0 and 4.0 are much better for running, one day I'll get a pair.. just not sure when. How's the leg holding up?
I'm still using my 2.0s. I HATE running in them. Can't run in flat shoes since I broke my back... which totally sucks because I loved running in my Innov8s. I can do about a mile and then I feel it.. so.. I take three pairs of shoes to the gym.. Oly shoes, nano, and running shoes.. it sucks at times, but it is what it is.
Apparently the 3.0 and 4.0 are much better for running, one day I'll get a pair.. just not sure when. How's the leg holding up?
That's what I was probably going to do too. Try to get a pair of the lifters and runners when I can get them cheap like these and have shoes specifically for certain things since they differ so widely and shoes are a big part of it. As of now these are my everything shoe and once I get better I'm sure I'll have a better idea of what I want and why and will find a good deal but until then these will have to due. Running in them was interesting and I kind of liked it. I can see what you mean though as it seemed to be a little more impact than I would like for more than a 400m warmup run.
The leg is better. Last night was the first time I was able to job in fact. I did a brisk walk the first half of the 400m warmup and then slowly increased the speed to where I was jogging by the end. It felt pretty good but I still didn't do any of the squatting warmups or movements. I felt better doing the other movements though as before it hurt to walk so doing just about anything (even upper body stuff) was awkward due to the leg injury. For instance, when we did planks or push ups I had to rest my left foot on top of my right heel and try to balance my entire body weight on three points instead of four. Doesn't sound that bad but the additional support you need to balance while going through those things shows up quickly since you exert more energy through the movement just to stay upright. Hoping to be able to do a little bit more Wednesday night but I'll have to see what my body tells me. At this point I'm pretty much going to have to re-take the Fundamental course next month so no sense pushing it now. I'm just trying to get in better cardio shape and improve where I can on basic movements so next month comes a little bit easier when I have to start over again. Either way I'm working out so it's not a big deal really. Just want to make sure I've got a firm base of fundamentals to work with moving forward so I can do compound movements perfectly and as little as I've been able to demonstrate this month I'm just not comfortable with my practice of them to move onto the next level of classes. I talked to the owner and he agreed with me and said we'll re-evaluate one we're all done and see if I'm far enough along that I can come up and get 1 on 1 training for the lower body stuff that I missed and if I can demonstrate proper form doing them move on. Since this is the last week and we have only two classes left I doubt that by start of next week I'll be healthy enough to hit everything and if I don't feel 100% I'm not going to push it and risk injuring myself which will put me out again. I guess we'll see.
blacklabel
08-19-2014, 12:44
Please don't buy the reebok Powerlifting Crossfit shoes. They're glorified Chucks.
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ZERO THEORY
08-19-2014, 13:22
I bought the Adidas Powerlift 2.0 for Oly lifting, and now wear them full-time when lifting. Still running in my seven year old New Balance outdoor shoes.
Please don't buy the reebok Powerlifting Crossfit shoes. They're glorified Chucks.
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These are the Crossfit Lifters I mentioned earlier. They don't look or feel anything like any Chucks I've ever owned.
http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/web/321243457897_1_0_1/1000x1000.jpg
Although I don't do cross fit those reebok crossfit lifters are awesome . best shoe I've ever had for lifting.
Although I don't do cross fit those reebok crossfit lifters are awesome . best shoe I've ever had for lifting.
Thanks for the input man. I've heard lots of good things so when I get to the stage of actually training with weight (other than remedial stuff we're using now to get movements & form down) I plan to get a pair for that purpose.
What exactly is a lifting shoe? What properties does it have for which purposes?
What exactly is a lifting shoe? What properties does it have for which purposes?
Solid shank, wide base, additional support, solid upper. Those are the things I look for in a weight lifting shoe & a few are opposite what I'd look for in shoes for other activities. Enough so that if I can get a pair on clearance like the Nano's I scored I'm getting a pair. It's not going to make me The Hulk but it will make lifts go better & could help prevent an injury.
ZERO THEORY
08-19-2014, 15:10
What exactly is a lifting shoe? What properties does it have for which purposes?
It depends. A true Olympic lifting shoe has a 3/4" to 1" raised heel, and is flat through the arch and toe box. There is virtually no tread on the sole.
These hybrid Crossfit shoes have a much more subtle heel, aggressive tread, and more arch support for running and jumping. For all intents and purposes, they're Cross trainers with a firmer sole and running-based shell.
Eggysrun
08-19-2014, 21:46
I'm thinking of doing crossfit. I've dropped around 30 pounds in the last 7 months from going to an organic dominant diet and need to start muscle strengthening. I may have to hit you up Jer with either questions or tagging along.
blacklabel
08-20-2014, 06:21
These are the Crossfit Lifters I mentioned earlier. They don't look or feel anything like any Chucks I've ever owned.
http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/web/321243457897_1_0_1/1000x1000.jpg
http://shop.reebok.com/us/product/men-reebok-crossfit-lite-tr-shoes/NU485?cid=V59970&breadcrumb=1z13070Z1z11zrfZdy
These are what I was referring to. A proper oly shoe isn't a bad idea.
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I'm still using my 2.0s. I HATE running in them. Can't run in flat shoes since I broke my back... which totally sucks because I loved running in my Innov8s. I can do about a mile and then I feel it.. so.. I take three pairs of shoes to the gym.. Oly shoes, nano, and running shoes.. it sucks at times, but it is what it is.
Apparently the 3.0 and 4.0 are much better for running, one day I'll get a pair.. just not sure when. How's the leg holding up?
I really like the Innov8s. My only problem with them is that they don't stand up to rope climbs.
I'm thinking of doing crossfit. I've dropped around 30 pounds in the last 7 months from going to an organic dominant diet and need to start muscle strengthening. I may have to hit you up Jer with either questions or tagging along.
30lbs? From what I recall you don't have 30lbs to lose man. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions even though I'm a rook myself I'll try my best to answer them. If you want a great workout and to gain strength, this will do it for sure.
http://shop.reebok.com/us/product/men-reebok-crossfit-lite-tr-shoes/NU485?cid=V59970&breadcrumb=1z13070Z1z11zrfZdy (http://shop.reebok.com/us/product/men-reebok-crossfit-lite-tr-shoes/NU485?cid=V59970&breadcrumb=1z13070Z1z11zrfZdy)
These are what I was referring to. A proper oly shoe isn't a bad idea.
Yeah, I don't think I would pay money for those. lol
I really like the Innov8s. My only problem with them is that they don't stand up to rope climbs.
That's the other thing. There's going to be times where you have to do other things than just lift in between sets so you want a shoe that can do more than JUST lift which the Crossfit shoes are a great combination of the tasks at hand with a focus on one of the other. I can see myself using the lifters quite a bit once we start doing weight but not sure on the runners as I'm not sure how much running I'll be doing and even when I do I think my Nano's will probably come close enough to complete the task especially since the runners may not do the movements between runs that we will likely have to do. I suck at running no matter how you slice it so I doubt a shoe is going to make me any better. If I was a marathon runner then I'd get a dedicated shoe but I'm just not sure the Crossfit Runner will offer enough advantage to run dominant WODs to make up for the price tag and probably short comings they offer during the other aspects of the WOD. Meh, I'm still a rook so I'm just guessing at most of this but I don't think it takes a veteran or a shoe engineer to figure most of this out.
Update: Got out of the Fundamental classes.... sort of. Friday night would have been the final class but we had a function for my wife's work to go to so we couldn't make it. Instead we made it up Monday night. For those that recall I blew up a hammy week 1 and luckily it ended up being just a strain/pull instead of a partial tear so my down time (although painful) was minimal. I pretty much didn't miss a workout but had to curtail the movements to upper body and was still able to get some killer workouts. The owner of the gym was nice enough to not only allow us to make up our Friday night final Fundamental class Monday night but worked with me 1 on 1 for the entire hour. What we did was basically go through his list of movements for all nine classes. We did a few reps of the ones he saw that were decent and the ones I hadn't yet done we spent a lot of time on. In the end we went got through half the list and will do the same again real soon for the 2nd half. In the mean time he allowed me to move onto the next step of classes with the understanding that I would scale back movements I hadn't yet perfected and replace movements I hadn't yet demonstrated for him with that 2nd review coming up in the next few days.
I'm excited to go to my first actual Crossfit session which will be tonight. I plan to just work within my skill & ability and get as good of a workout as I can. My weight has hovered around the same the entire time and if anything it's gone up a pound or two depending on the day. While I'm not noticing a difference in body composition since I see myself every day I have noticed that I'm already on a different notch on my belt even though it's snug. I also noticed that the sleeves on my t-shirts are already feeling a bit tighter on my arms. I know this seems soon but the hope is that 'muscle memory' will be my savior and I return to having more muscle quickly based on the amount of muscle I once had at one point many generations ago. lol I did notice that my first day being able to run the 400m warm-up I was able to do so w/o too much effort so that's a good sign given my size and level of cardio. I also used Google Maps to figure out an exact 400m path in our neighborhood so that my wife and I can run this from time to time to get used to it.
On to shoes... lol
We now have like 4 pair of Crossfit shoes each. Haha! I hadn't planned on it but in addition to the pair of Nano 2.0's I posted earlier that we found locally for $40 plus tax my buddy sent me a coupon for CF shoes directly from Reebok for 40% off last week. We took advantage of this to each get a pair of Lifter Plus's (the green ones from the pic earlier but blue since they didn't have those green ones), Sprinter TR's & Nano 3.0's. I know we didn't need them but I'm sure we'll put them to good use and we've certainly spent our money on less healthy items. All told I think we got about $1,000 worth of shoes for less than $500 for two people and 8 pair of shoes. The Nano's are comfortable enough that I will likely even throw out some old wear-around shoes that were starting to fall apart and wear them around as they're quite cozy. They go great with all my orange Broncos gear too.
I can't wait until spring time when I can invest on some new smaller size shirts! Probably get some Crossfit shirts too. What can I saw... we're hooked! lol
Just thought I'd post Crossfit DNR's WOD for 9/11 (today):
9/11/2014
September 11, 2014/in WOD /by DNRadmin
D.R.O.M.s
9-11 Throwdown
For Time:
2001m Run
11 Box Jumps 36/24
11 Thursters 125/85
11 Burpee Chest to Bar Pull Ups
11 Power Cleans 170/120
11 Handstand Push Ups
11 Kettlebell Swings 70/53
11 V-ups
11 Deadlifts 170/120
11 Push Jerks 110/75
2001 M Run
The workout is symbolic of 9/11. The 2001 meter run represents the year the attack took place. The 11 reps of 9 exercises represents the date (9/11). Even the weights have meaning.
The 125 pound thrusters represents the number of deaths that occurred at the Pentagon. The 175 pound power clean symbolizes the AA Flight 175 that hit the South Tower. The 170 pound deadlift is symbolic of Flight 77 and Flight 93 combined. And the 110 pound push jerk represents the number of floors in each tower of the World Trade Center.
Great-Kazoo
09-11-2014, 14:27
I'm thinking of doing crossfit. I've dropped around 30 pounds in the last 7 months from going to an organic dominant diet and need to start muscle strengthening. I may have to hit you up Jer with either questions or tagging along.
I only know about cross fit from reading this thread. I do know the 2nd page has been nothing but guys talking fashion. OH My those kicks are just so .......kicky [Beer]
like Jer said, you don't have 30 lbs to loose.
I only know about cross fit from reading this thread. I do know the 2nd page has been nothing but guys talking fashion. OH My those kicks are just so .......kicky [Beer]
I think you meant to say 'crispy'! lulz
Great-Kazoo
09-11-2014, 17:20
I think you meant to say 'crispy'! lulz
My bad. Since Joan kicked it i'm out of the fashionista loop.
My bad. Since Joan kicked it i'm out of the fashionista loop.
Too soon man. Too soon. lol
New Nano 3.0's in cargo green. Yeah, I may have a problem. [LOL]
Now if I could just find those Lifter Plus shoes in the same color I posted in a size 13 I'd be all set!
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You could reward yourself with shoes/clothes once you hit certain fitness goals. Might balance your workout to purchase ratio. If anything, it will help you focus on the workout, rather than the gear.
You could reward yourself with shoes/clothes once you hit certain fitness goals. Might balance your workout to purchase ratio. If anything, it will help you focus on the workout, rather than the gear.
I have, sort of. Shoes are the one thing that 1) I need to do the workout (even though not this many) and 2) won't be too big for me in a year. My plan is to not buy shorts, shirts or anything else though until spring of next year at the earliest. My wife has been buying a lot of new workout clothes but she's already in great shape so most of what she buys will fit her in a year or two. I sure as shit hope that by this time next summer I'm able to wear clothes that I'm wearing right now. That's why I'm wearing all my stuff right now that fits me even the shirts I considered nicer t-shirts that I took care to not work out in or get dirty because the hope is that I will need to replace them all with smaller versions next year.
I hope that I can get my existing shirts & shorts & such to last me that long and even though they may be falling off of me I'm going to make them work until I can buy a size or two smaller since it will be less likely to not fit me moving forward. We got a one-time killer deal (40% off sale prices and free shipping directly from Reebok) on all the shoes in the one pic and they're all different shoes with a different purpose. The one row is my wife's shoes and the other row is mine... less the red/white/blue pair that looks smaller. Those were supposed to be a size 13 and I got shipped an 8 for some reason and I sold them for a profit on Craigslist rather than take advantage of the free return policy. I basically have a Lifter, Sprinter and now two pair of Nano's. I now wear the Nano's outside of working out due to how comfortable they are and I was due some new walking around shoes anyway as my New Balance shoes are looking pretty rough. So the two pair of Nano's I have are the orange 2.0's and now the cargo green 3.0's.. both of which were bought on clearance for a killer price from the Reebok Outlet store at price I likely wouldn't have been able to reproduce on these shoes. If I can manage to find those lifters in cargo green like I posted or those red/white/blue ones I post in my size I will likely buy them as well only because they're discontinued and if I want them I'll have to get them when they pop up which they likely won't. Pretty sure I already missed the bus on that.
So, while I posted up a lot of shoes that I bought I guess I needed a couple of walk around shoes anyway and if I was using these strictly for Crossfit there's no way I'd have four pair of them. I do plan to wait to buy clothes that I need until I achieve a healthier version of me however. The shoes though i can wear even when I do lose weight so I'm not as concerned about those purchases.
Oops, I just realized that I didn't even post a pic of all the Crossfit shoes we got a few weeks ago. Probably would make more sense since I keep referring to them. Here's the picture:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HWlR8dTzqDg/VA4TuiDgIMI/AAAAAAAAKoA/zqjroE8NqpU/s1440/20140828_161209-1.jpg
So the four on the left are my wife's. The four on the left were supposed to be mine other than that pair of red/white/blue Captain America ones that were too small and they were discontinued before I could get the right size ordered. So the three on the right are mine and the green 3.0 pictured just now is the 4th pair of Crossfit shoes I have. Again, we both wear the Nano 2.0's and 3.0's for both working out at Crossfit and around town as our regular shoes. Even if you don't do Crossfit I highly recommend you try on a pair of Rebook Nano's for wear around shoes. Beats my New Balance walking shoes all to hell for fit and comfort and I previously thought those were pretty darn decent of all the brands I've wore.
On the other hand, you could start buying new clothes now, in smaller sizes, as a sort of carrot and stick method of forcing yourself to get to that size, lest you wasted your money. Heh.
On the other hand, you could start buying new clothes now, in smaller sizes, as a sort of carrot and stick method of forcing yourself to get to that size, lest you wasted your money. Heh.
I like the idea but I'm not made of money. lol
So what's the deal? Haven't had an update in a while. How are things going? I've been doing a Crossfit-ish type workout a couple times a week. It's great.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 22:17
So what's the deal? Haven't had an update in a while. How are things going? I've been doing a Crossfit-ish type workout a couple times a week. It's great.
Nice you're working out OOPS i mean cross fitting. But really is one work out regime superior than another? Now i can sit back and read jer rant.
Everything I've been doing is absolutely something I could just do at home, which is what I want. BUT, I wouldn't do it at home. I'd get tired and mad and quit.
So what's the deal? Haven't had an update in a while. How are things going? I've been doing a Crossfit-ish type workout a couple times a week. It's great.
Things are going good man. I'm addicted fully and have even bought more shoes since the last posts. lol
You should find a local Crossfit gym to check out if you can. I tried to do Crossfit style workouts and even did a garage workout with these same guys that now own this Crossfit that I go to. I got a good workout doing it myself and an even better workout when I would go to the garage classes these guys taught to a bunch of members. I know first hand now that the workout you get doesn't come close to what you will get from an actual Crossfit box. It's quite a big difference and the biggest part is certified trainers. People think Crossfit is expensive but it you think about what it would cost for a gym membership plus a personal trainer every time you went Crossfit will look like a bargain. Having spent years in a gym I thought I was pretty good at lifts, specifically compound lifts. My weights were high so I thought I was doing shit right. I'm amazed at how wrong I was doing so many things and having different trainers right there next to you teaching you basic movements the right way from ground up and then right next to you correcting mistakes during the workout once you combine them is priceless. It really is. That coupled withe motivation they offer makes the price tag a bargain. Hard to explain though, you just have to experience it for yourself.
Nice you're working out OOPS i mean cross fitting. But really is one work out regime superior than another? Now i can sit back and read jer rant.
The more I do it the more I can see how people become addicted. I'm not a spring chick and have done various other methods of exercise to include your typical weight lifting/cardio that most guys like to do starting at an early age. I can say w/o a shadow of a doubt having done that for years that this is better way. The atmosphere and attitude is night & day difference and I've already made new friends. People I met at gyms tend to be more lone-wolf types and as such many lack interpersonal skills. In short, there's a lot of weirdos at a regular gym and I used to wear headphones to avoid them all. Sure I would learn most of their names over time and maybe even make a few friends who I talk to outside of the gym after years of going. I've been going to this smaller & newer Crossfit gym only a matter of months and within the first few weeks I already knew dozens and dozens of people's names, we're all friendly and I have lots of people I talk out outside of the Crossfit classes now too. Genuinely good people. This also carries over to the workouts themselves which is still hard for me to wrap my mind around. At a gym you compete only against yourself. That's your motivation. With Crossfit you still have that but even better is the competition against others on your level as well as some who are more advanced to give you something to work towards. Those people who you are directly competing against cheer you on while THEY work out. It's nuts. You genuinely route those on who compete against you because it drives you harder too.
People talk about how Crossfiters are always in your face about it and I haven't experienced that. People ask me about it and I will mention it & answer any questions they have if they ask follow up questions but that's about the end of it. The negativity from those I know who are weight lifters or body builders is enormous though. I've been a member of BodyBuilding.com for years and that is just a horrible site. I haven't been there in years actually. That same attitude however is present in most body builders I know on most social media networks. From unprovoked facebook posts to health/workout threads in various gun/car/truck forums. The body builders quickly take over and their attitudes towards Crossfit is atrocious. It smacks of fear of the unknown because they think they way is the best and how dare anyone do something different than their way so they must be idiots to be made fun of. That attitude is exactly why I don't go to regular gyms anymore. The pretentiousness is palpable. I'm a strong dude genetically so I'm made for weight lifting but the attitude at ANY gym I've ever gone to across the nation is exactly the same and it doesn't spawn growth or happiness. I know that's not for everyone just like I know Crossfit isn't for everyone but for me... it fits. I'm getting in better cardiovascular shape & my body composition is improving as well. All of my movements are improving and my weights/reps are slightly increasing with things becoming easier. I know without a doubt that if I stick with this in a year I'll be in the best shape I've even been in in my life at a spry 37 years old. I hope to be able to go to local competitions some day too to drive myself even further.
Of all the unhealthy addictions in this nation I will never fault someone for being addicted to getting healthy... regardless of what method they use and I have a hard time imagining someone so petty that they can.
hurley842002
10-15-2014, 12:09
The more I do it the more I can see how people become addicted. I'm not a spring chick and have done various other methods of exercise to include your typical weight lifting/cardio that most guys like to do starting at an early age. I can say w/o a shadow of a doubt having done that for years that this is better way FOR ME. The atmosphere and attitude is night & day difference and I've already made new friends. People I met at gyms tend to be more lone-wolf types and as such many lack interpersonal skills. In short, there's a lot of weirdos at a regular gym and I used to wear headphones to avoid them all. Sure I would learn most of their names over time and maybe even make a few friends who I talk to outside of the gym after years of going. I've been going to this smaller & newer Crossfit gym only a matter of months and within the first few weeks I already knew dozens and dozens of people's names, we're all friendly and I have lots of people I talk out outside of the Crossfit classes now too. Genuinely good people. This also carries over to the workouts themselves which is still hard for me to wrap my mind around. At a gym you compete only against yourself. That's your motivation. With Crossfit you still have that but even better is the competition against others on your level as well as some who are more advanced to give you something to work towards. Those people who you are directly competing against cheer you on while THEY work out. It's nuts. You genuinely route those on who compete against you because it drives you harder too.
People talk about how Crossfiters are always in your face about it and I haven't experienced that. People ask me about it and I will mention it & answer any questions they have if they ask follow up questions but that's about the end of it. The negativity from those I know who are weight lifters or body builders is enormous though. I've been a member of BodyBuilding.com for years and that is just a horrible site. I haven't been there in years actually. That same attitude however is present in most body builders I know on most social media networks. From unprovoked facebook posts to health/workout threads in various gun/car/truck forums. The body builders quickly take over and their attitudes towards Crossfit is atrocious. It smacks of fear of the unknown because they think they way is the best and how dare anyone do something different than their way so they must be idiots to be made fun of. That attitude is exactly why I don't go to regular gyms anymore. The pretentiousness is palpable. I'm a strong dude genetically so I'm made for weight lifting but the attitude at ANY gym I've ever gone to across the nation is exactly the same and it doesn't spawn growth or happiness. I know that's not for everyone just like I know Crossfit isn't for everyone but for me... it fits. I'm getting in better cardiovascular shape & my body composition is improving as well. All of my movements are improving and my weights/reps are slightly increasing with things becoming easier. I know without a doubt that if I stick with this in a year I'll be in the best shape I've even been in in my life at a spry 37 years old. I hope to be able to go to local competitions some day too to drive myself even further.
Of all the unhealthy addictions in this nation I will never fault someone for being addicted to getting healthy... regardless of what method they use and I have a hard time imagining someone so petty that they can.
FIFY
I'm not a crossfit hater, in fact if I could afford it, and had the time, I'd probably give it a shot. With that said, you made some pretty bold and negative assessments towards "Gym goers" that just aren't true everywhere. I go to arguably the "snobiest" Gym in the area, and yet 90% of the folks I'm around are as friendly as can be amidst busting their asses working out. It's not social hour, the only talking I may do is ask for a spot, in fact if you are standing around chit chatting, there are several lounge areas and a cafe for that.
Perhaps you've had some very negative experiences with gyms, but if you are working hard enough, you shouldn't really be paying attention to the guy next to you (notice I said guy...).
FIFY
I'm not a crossfit hater, in fact if I could afford it, and had the time, I'd probably give it a shot. With that said, you made some pretty bold and negative assessments towards "Gym goers" that just aren't true everywhere. I go to arguably the "snobiest" Gym in the area, and yet 90% of the folks I'm around are as friendly as can be amidst busting their asses working out. It's not social hour, the only talking I may do is ask for a spot, in fact if you are standing around chit chatting, there are several lounge areas and a cafe for that.
Perhaps you've had some very negative experiences with gyms, but if you are working hard enough, you shouldn't really be paying attention to the guy next to you (notice I said guy...).
No idea what the FIFY is because I'm not re-reading my entire post to find it.
Yes, I realize I made some bold and negative assessments but they're not blind. I've lifted on and off for a couple of decades now all over the country at various gym settings and you must lift at a unicorn if it's completely impervious to everything I mentioned because the attitude is sewn into the weight lifting lifestyle. It's not just a few bad apples and if you found the unicorn then I would say that you have the exception to the rule. The more serious the gym members are the more this attitude exists. Everyone has to be the baddest MoF on the face of the earth even if their PR on bench is less than I warm up with. Like being a bad ass has anything to do with being a stand-offish prick or something yet most feel this way.
Thank you for proving my point by saying it's not social hour. I have NEVER been the type to socialize at the gym and now I can plainly see why & that's the type of person that goes to both types of gyms. I get a better workout in the hour I'm at Crossfit then I have EVER got at the gym even if I was there for twice that time. If you aren't watching the guy next to you for motivation then you're not doing it right. Some of the guys at the Crossfit gym can do awe-inspiring things and that's more motivation.
If you lift weights and it works for you that's great. Seriously. In a nation of fat and lazy turds I commend you for doing something to not fit that. That worked for me once and at one point when I had been doing it for years seriously and I was 225lbs at less than 10% bf I felt like I was in the best shape of my life. And I was. That being said, I now realize that this method is just better. In about every way you can think of other than maybe cost. When it came time to work out again the idea of going back to a traditional gym setting off-put me and almost kept me from getting back into before I started researching Crossfit. I had heard good things and I'm glad I didn't listen to my weight lifting buddies who all bagged on it because they were wrong. It's a simple as that. It's been amazing and I can't wait to go each time. It's not like weight lifting where I needed some sort of 'pre-workout' concoction and some motivating angry music to get me to go and some nights I dreaded going.... I actually ENJOY Crossfit. It's like training to play football. Practice & training sucks but actually playing football is a fucking blast. Crossfit is like playing football in this aspect. You aren't going to simply move some weights around you are going to compete in a series of compound exercises that are set up to compete for reps, time or both. You can compete against yourself, others or both. It's really hard to explain to someone who hasn't genuinely done it before because you're trying to compare it to what you do only differently and it's not... it's an entirely new way of doing things in just about every imaginable way. The comradery is something you won't find at your typical weight lifting gym. If you found one then either your idea of comradery is different than mine or you found the unicorn.
My wife used to go to the gym with me and even though I would push her on cardio and weight lifting she never sweated. Ever. In years that we went she didn't sweat so we just assumed it was a girl thing or something. I pour with sweat even changing the TV channel so it was never difficult for me to work up a sweat. Her first Crossfit class she was sweating like me and it was a whole new world for her. She realized that no matter how hard she 'trained' at a gym it just wasn't the same. You push yourself far past any level of exertion you previously thought was possible and then you just keep going. It's bananas and I've only begun to scratch the surface of what is possible since I'm a n00b.
The biggest mistake weight lifters who discount Crossfit make IMO is they assume that those who do Crossfit are new to working out and just don't know how to workout. The opposite couldn't be more true. I've seen more ex-athletes at Crossfit then I EVER saw at the gym and I've been to some pretty serious gyms nationwide. Sure you have a few D2 football players or a one-time good wrestler throwing around high weight on deadlift, squat and bench but how winded would they be if they showed up to a Crossfit class that COMBINES strength movements with cardio for metabolic conditioning? It's a different beast entirely and I assure you I gave what you're trying to compare it to more than a fair chance to know what I'm talking about. Lifting was my life for quite a few years. I was a beast. I did 130lb dumbells for 12 reps on flat bench followed by 140lbs for 10 reps and finally 150lbs for 8+ reps on my last set. 150lbs in each hand and that's the largest dumbells the gym had otherwise who knows. I could go on but even typing out what would have been an accomplishment for most who lift I feel foolish. It seems silly to brag about such things now because it's pointless. Who cares? What good does that do you in RL? Nothing. That's the difference.
hurley842002
10-15-2014, 12:51
No idea what the FIFY is because I'm not re-reading my entire post to find it.
Yes, I realize I made some bold and negative assessments but they're not blind. I've lifted on and off for a couple of decades now all over the country at various gym settings and you must lift at a unicorn if it's completely impervious to everything I mentioned because the attitude is sewn into the weight lifting lifestyle. It's not just a few bad apples and if you found the unicorn then I would say that you have the exception to the rule. The more serious the gym members are the more this attitude exists. Everyone has to be the baddest MoF on the face of the earth even if their PR on bench is less than I warm up with. Like being a bad ass has anything to do with being a stand-offish prick or something yet most feel this way.
Thank you for proving my point by saying it's not social hour. I have NEVER been the type to socialize at the gym and now I can plainly see why & that's the type of person that goes to both types of gyms. I get a better workout in the hour I'm at Crossfit then I have EVER got at the gym even if I was there for twice that time. If you aren't watching the guy next to you for motivation then you're not doing it right. Some of the guys at the Crossfit gym can do awe-inspiring things and that's more motivation.
If you lift weights and it works for you that's great. Seriously. In a nation of fat and lazy turds I commend you for doing something to not fit that. That worked for me once and at one point when I had been doing it for years seriously and I was 225lbs at less than 10% bf I felt like I was in the best shape of my life. And I was. That being said, I now realize that this method is just better. In about every way you can think of other than maybe cost. When it came time to work out again the idea of going back to a traditional gym setting off-put me and almost kept me from getting back into before I started researching Crossfit. I had heard good things and I'm glad I didn't listen to my weight lifting buddies who all bagged on it because they were wrong. It's a simple as that. It's been amazing and I can't wait to go each time. It's not like weight lifting where I needed some sort of 'pre-workout' concoction and some motivating angry music to get me to go and some nights I dreaded going.... I actually ENJOY Crossfit. It's like training to play football. Practice & training sucks but actually playing football is a fucking blast. Crossfit is like playing football in this aspect. You aren't going to simply move some weights around you are going to compete in a series of compound exercises that are set up to compete for reps, time or both. You can compete against yourself, others or both. It's really hard to explain to someone who hasn't genuinely done it before because you're trying to compare it to what you do only differently and it's not... it's an entirely new way of doing things in just about every imaginable way. The comradery is something you won't find at your typical weight lifting gym. If you found one then either your idea of comradery is different than mine or you found the unicorn.
My wife used to go to the gym with me and even though I would push her on cardio and weight lifting she never sweated. Ever. In years that we went she didn't sweat so we just assumed it was a girl thing or something. I pour with sweat even changing the TV channel so it was never difficult for me to work up a sweat. Her first Crossfit class she was sweating like me and it was a whole new world for her. She realized that no matter how hard she 'trained' at a gym it just wasn't the same. You push yourself far past any level of exertion you previously thought was possible and then you just keep going. It's bananas and I've only begun to scratch the surface of what is possible since I'm a n00b.
The biggest mistake weight lifters who discount Crossfit make IMO is they assume that those who do Crossfit are new to working out and just don't know how to workout. The opposite couldn't be more true. I've seen more ex-athletes at Crossfit then I EVER saw at the gym and I've been to some pretty serious gyms nationwide. Sure you have a few D2 football players or a one-time good wrestler throwing around high weight on deadlift, squat and bench but how winded would they be if they showed up to a Crossfit class that COMBINES strength movements with cardio for metabolic conditioning? It's a different beast entirely and I assure you I gave what you're trying to compare it to more than a fair chance to know what I'm talking about. Lifting was my life for quite a few years. I was a beast. I did 130lb dumbells for 12 reps on flat bench followed by 140lbs for 10 reps and finally 150lbs for 8+ reps on my last set. 150lbs in each hand and that's the largest dumbells the gym had otherwise who knows. I could go on but even typing out what would have been an accomplishment for most who lift I feel foolish. It seems silly to brag about such things now because it's pointless. Who cares? What good does that do you in RL? Nothing. That's the difference.
I'll narrow it down for you...
"I can say w/o a shadow of a doubt having done that for years that this is better way FOR ME."
Perhaps you are right Jer, maybe all the ass hats do exist at my gym, and maybe I'm just so focused on MY success, and what I'VE got going on, that I don't worry about what anyone else is doing. I don't need to watch the guy next to me to get my motivation, I look at the pounds I lifted or the time/distance I ran in the previous session, and I beat it. Thank you for showing me the light.
I'll narrow it down for you...
"I can say w/o a shadow of a doubt having done that for years that this is better way FOR ME."
Perhaps you are right Jer, maybe all the ass hats do exist at my gym, and maybe I'm just so focused on MY success, and what I'VE got going on, that I don't worry about what anyone else is doing. I don't need to watch the guy next to me to get my motivation, I look at the pounds I lifted or the time/distance I ran in the previous session, and I beat it. Thank you for showing me the light.
Why do you insist on posting in threads you obviously have no interest in?
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 13:01
Of all the unhealthy addictions in this nation I will never fault someone for being addicted to getting healthy... regardless of what method they use and I have a hard time imagining someone so petty that they can.
I agree, like other forms of exercise , including yoga. Having the time to get away from work, the grind at home etc. For myself a good cardio workout within my limitations makes me fell better. Some weights and pool time round it out.
hurley842002
10-15-2014, 13:29
Why do you insist on posting in threads you obviously have no interest in?
I do have an interest in crossfit, I just can't afford it. I never said anything negative about crossfit, just your attitude towards non crossfiters. But alas, it's your thread so I shouldn't say anything that goes against your posts....
I do have an interest in crossfit, I just can't afford it. I never said anything negative about crossfit, just your attitude towards non crossfiters. But alas, it's your thread so I shouldn't say anything that goes against your posts....
You keep saying 'I'm interested but I can't afford it' and yet you have nothing positive to say about it that would indicate this is indeed factual. You also feel the need to turn even innocent things I say that go against what you think into attacks that need defense. So far your biggest problem is that you think I'm bagging on weight lifting and weight lifters and yet I have done no such thing. I've posted my PERSONAL OPINION BASED ON YEARS (DECADES?) OF FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. Not really sure how that's open for debate but debate away if you must. Not everything on internet forums is a hotly contested debate.
Have you done Crossfit personally to be able to speak on types of working out from first-hand experience? So far, doesn't seem like you have so I'm not sure how you can take either side in the conversation anyway. If you had, you might start to have an idea what I'm actually talking about instead of blindly assuming I have no idea what I'm talking about instead of trying to turn it into a ePeen measuring contest when I specifically asked for this thread to no devolve into that.
hurley842002
10-15-2014, 13:57
You keep saying 'I'm interested but I can't afford it' and yet you have nothing positive to say about it that would indicate this is indeed factual. You also feel the need to turn even innocent things I say that go against what you think into attacks that need defense. So far your biggest problem is that you think I'm bagging on weight lifting and weight lifters and yet I have done no such thing. I've posted my PERSONAL OPINION BASED ON YEARS (DECADES?) OF FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. Not really sure how that's open for debate but debate away if you must. Not everything on internet forums is a hotly contested debate.
Have you done Crossfit personally to be able to speak on types of working out from first-hand experience? So far, doesn't seem like you have so I'm not sure how you can take either side in the conversation anyway. If you had, you might start to have an idea what I'm actually talking about instead of blindly assuming I have no idea what I'm talking about instead of trying to turn it into a ePeen measuring contest when I specifically asked for this thread to no devolve into that.
You are turning this into something it isn't, I don't need proof of anything as far as crossfit is concerned, because I never said anything disputing your opinion on crossfit.
I must be extremely bored, because as long as I've been frequenting this forum, I should know by now, you can't go against "Jer's" opinion on anything.
I prefer the gym because my goals are different than the 130 lb guy or the 350 lb guy. I like building my own routines to accomplish the goals I have. Crossfit is a program applied to all body types with the understanding of just doing it until failure, correct? I'm sure its a great fitness program but I wouldnt call it bodybuilding or weight lifting.
The workouts in CrossFit generally appear to be uniform, but underlying the workout as written (or "as prescribed" in the language of CrossFit) is the principle that you are free to modify, or scale, the workout to fit your ability level.
This way, you can talk with a coach before starting the workout to find what will be a challenge at your ability level.
For instance, if you can't do pull ups, they will have you substitute an easier movement that works the same muscle group, like ring rows.
As a general rule, only someone who's exceptionally athletic will be able to complete a workout as prescribed. Almost everyone scales to some extent.
Also, you don't always go to failure. Workouts can be designed a couple of different ways, including doing as many rounds as possible in a time limit, completing a set number of rounds in your own time, or some variation of the above.
Also, I wouldn't characterize CrossFit add weight training either. It's not. Its a schema designed to work towards an ideal of general fitness, and includes a cross section of various kinds of exercise, including body weight stuff, weight lifting, endurance, balance, and mobility.
You are turning this into something it isn't, I don't need proof of anything as far as crossfit is concerned, because I never said anything disputing your opinion on crossfit.
I must be extremely bored, because as long as I've been frequenting this forum, I should know by now, you can't go against "Jer's" opinion on anything.
Have a nice day.
I prefer the gym because my goals are different than the 130 lb guy or the 350 lb guy. I like building my own routines to accomplish the goals I have. Crossfit is a program applied to all body types with the understanding of just doing it until failure, correct? I'm sure its a great fitness program but I wouldnt call it bodybuilding or weight lifting.
Yes and no. The personalization comes from workouts tailored to your actual lifts based on percentages. So the workout starts generally with a 400m run to warm-up along with D.R.O.M.S which is a series of stretching movements for mobility. At that point the workout then has two parts: Strength & METCON. The strength portion is usually a compound movement like squat, front squat, bench... etc. It will say 80%, 85% + 10 or something like that so you know that you want 80% of whatever your one rep max is or 80% plus 10lbs. It will then say 3x5 or 10x5 or something similar which means you do 3 reps for 5 sets or 10 reps for 5 sets or something along those lines. Yesterday it was Strict Press for 80% 3x5 and then Push Press for 85% for 3x5. That was the strength portion for the day. You basically did 30 overhead presses of differing weights & movements. The second part of the workout is the METCON which is short for Metabolic Conditioning. This is the actual workout and is always different and challenging. Again, it's all based on your personal bests and abilities. Yesterday it was 10min AMRAP which means As Many Rounds As Possible for 10min. This is more of a 'sprint' as you are in it for 10min no matter what and you're trying to either get more rounds than you got last time this workout was done (they vary so much that it's rare they repeat unless it's a named exercise but you can probably find something close... I've been there months and nothing has ever repeated) or more rounds than someone close to your skill level. The exercises were 2 snatches of 115lbs (adjustable to your ability) then 5 strict pull ups (your traditional overhand pull up) and then 7 burpees. You repeat those three exercises w/o rest for 10min. Sounds pretty challenging, right? That was actually one of the easier classes I've ever done. The ones that have a 18-20min cap on them are usually killer. Sometimes the METCON can have a dozen or more exercises with 400m runs sprinkled in throughout. One class we ran a total of 1.5 miles all while doing pull ups, jump rope, bench press, & deadlift that required you to race another person who was on your skill level. The kicker is one ran while the other did the exercise for reps. The faster you ran the 400m the fewer reps your challenger could get but the less energy you had to do reps as well. That one was intense because it had a direct competition element that usually doesn't exist. They did a good job of paring people up to make it competitive too. Each round you called out your total reps from all of the exercises and that was the measuring stick for a total of 5 rounds. It's crazy how it works man but I have yet to find an hour workout (really just 10-25min of non-stop working out) that is as intense or comprehensive as Crossfit. There are no such thing as calf raises or bicep curls but that doesn't mean your calves or biceps won't get huge. You just use them in a more natural way that also helps you to get useful strength by doing pretty nothing but compound workouts. The 'pump' you get in these workouts is nothing like I ever got from just lifting weights. I would generally get light headed or vomit on leg days and I still feel like I push myself more in Crossfit and get a better all-over workout. I know that those I looked up to in lifting talked about compound movements and how important they were to strength and symmetry. All you do in Crossfit is compound movements. It's all meant to be used in life if you ever need to move/pull/lift anything. It basically combines HIIT, cardio, strength & explosive training.
hurley842002
10-15-2014, 15:13
Have a nice day.
Likewise
The workouts in CrossFit generally appear to be uniform, but underlying the workout as written (or "as prescribed" in the language of CrossFit) is the principle that you are free to modify, or scale, the workout to fit your ability level.
This way, you can talk with a coach before starting the workout to find what will be a challenge at your ability level.
For instance, if you can't do pull ups, they will have you substitute an easier movement that works the same muscle group, like ring rows.
As a general rule, only someone who's exceptionally athletic will be able to complete a workout as prescribed. Almost everyone scales to some extent.
Also, you don't always go to failure. Workouts can be designed a couple of different ways, including doing as many rounds as possible in a time limit, completing a set number of rounds in your own time, or some variation of the above.
Also, I wouldn't characterize CrossFit add weight training either. It's not. Its a schema designed to work towards an ideal of general fitness, and includes a cross section of various kinds of exercise, including body weight stuff, weight lifting, endurance, balance, and mobility.
Thanks man. You touched on a couple of points/questions I missed.
Scaling movements is a big part of it and you have to know what you're body can and can't do. For instance, for those pull ups I mentioned they have giant elastic bands. You figure out how many you need of what colors to do a certain number of struct pull ups or chest to bars or whatever the movement is. You note that and then you know next time and your goal is to adjust the scaling down as much as you can. This is how you get stronger and better at movements and this is all done on-the-fly so to speak as needed. Last night I had to yell at one of the coaches to drop my weight 10lbs on the Snatch because it was too much for the amount of rounds & reps we were doing. He rushed over, stripped weights and added the proper plates while I did my pull ups and burpees and by the time I got to snatch again the right weight was on there for the home-stretch of the workout. As many exercises and movements there are there's probably 100x more ways to scale them back for your skill level. It's cool to watch the guys/girls that have been there for a while doing unsupported handstand pushups and one-handed hand stands and then see where I am in the progression and know that if I just keep pushing myself even at the scaled back version I'm currently on I will get to that level eventually. It's fun.
There was a time when I wanted to be comic book huge and I lifted metric butt-tons of weight and ate like a horse in an effort to achieve that goal. I also know professional body builders and the goals of both of those people is NOT health. I don't care what you try to see either because there are many ways that being huge is worse for your health. My goal now is first to lose weight since I'm overweight and feel like my joints will thank me for it (one of those reasons body building is counter-productive to health) and then I want to gain mobility, balance, strength, cardiovascular health and not in that order either. The good thing about Crossfit is that I don't have to think about what I need to do or what to focus on... I just show up and prepare to work harder than I did last time for an hour. You do that and you can't help but get healthy in every measurable aspect.
I just show up and prepare to work harder than I did last time for an hour. You do that and you can't help but get healthy in every measurable aspect.
That is why I keep a journal so I can make sure that I'm pushing myself each rep and exercise. A lot of people go to the gym, dont track their efforts and put no thought into a routine. That doesn't get maximum results. But my gym only costs $20/month so the money saved is due to me having to put in the time to make my routine.
CrossFit is a good thing. It provides a welcoming environment and a structure so people don't have to build their own. It's just not for me. Im happy you found a niche and are staying with it. That's all that matters. I'm 6'1 and 198 lbs (give or take) so I'm not beastly huge but Im not a lean machine either. Im right where I want to be.
I follow the thread because I like seeing people get healthier. I have huge issues with people that bitch about their weight but do nothing about it. Maybe because I was a fat kid and had to do weight watchers during middle school. Let me tell ya how cool that makes you in that age group. Lol.
Also, Kips are not pull-ups. ;) But that's neither here nor there.
hurley842002
10-15-2014, 15:43
I follow the thread because I like seeing people get healthier. I have huge issues with people that bitch about their weight but do nothing about it.
Agree ^^
I think everyone posting in this thread can get on board with this statement.
That is why I keep a journal so I can make sure that I'm pushing myself each rep and exercise. A lot of people go to the gym, dont track their efforts and put no thought into a routine. That doesn't get maximum results. But my gym only costs $20/month so the money saved is due to me having to put in the time to make my routine.
CrossFit is a good thing. It provides a welcoming environment and a structure so people don't have to build their own. It's just not for me. Im happy you found a niche and are staying with it. That's all that matters. I'm 6'1 and 198 lbs (give or take) so I'm not beastly huge but Im not a lean machine either. Im right where I want to be.
I follow the thread because I like seeing people get healthier. I have huge issues with people that bitch about their weight but do nothing about it. Maybe because I was a fat kid and had to do weight watchers during middle school. Let me tell ya how cool that makes you in that age group. Lol.
Also, Kips are not pull-ups. ;) But that's neither here nor there.
Yep, we have journals too. We track all sorts of stuff.
I agree about the kipping pull-ups thing and have yet to do a single one. To me they look silly as shit but I'm sure once I get up to that level I'll find that (like anything) if you do enough of them it's a workout. lol
When I get to that bridge I'll see if I'm going to cross it or not. I can always modify to do something else since there's like a dozen different pull up movements in Crossfit.
Agree ^^
I think everyone posting in this thread can get on board with this statement.
Not me. I just like arguing.
hurley842002
10-15-2014, 17:27
Not me. I just like arguing.
Lol
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 17:59
Not me. I just like arguing.
You do? I'm off to one of the 3 - 4 Ebola threads, running in 2 different forums.
By the way Jer, the workout I've been doing is I guess what you call a garage style. No weights so far, just lots of reps of exercises that are difficult for only a few reps. My first two times, I had to scale the amount of reps down to 50% or more. After that, they tended to get easier in the sense that they were more core and lower body. I'm able to recover in those areas easier, so I could do the entire work outs. I guess I have a weak upper body because when it comes to doing 4 sets of 50 push-ups, I barely make it through the first set, then I'm pretty much done. I can't even do ten push-ups in a row after that. Jumps squats I can do each time though. I don't compete with anyone at this point, I just try to make it through the work outs. I'm not really to the point where I can go from set to set without rest. At this point, I've noticeably lost weight and this type of exercise helps my recovery, so it is making me a better runner. I'm happy as heck so far.
You do? I'm off to one of the 3 - 4 Ebola threads, running in 2 different forums.
Great, Ebola spread right out of Texas into this thread. When will it end?!
So I got to start OLY lifting again... Snatch.. Jerks.. The fun stuff. I'm going pretty light right now but I fully intend to get back to bw on all of them.
Did some ghd sit ups and I'm not really liking how the feel on my back, don't see myself doing them often.
On a side note... I'm in lust with the new girl at the gym... She's hot and pretty cool... And she will be mine.
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By the way Jer, the workout I've been doing is I guess what you call a garage style. No weights so far, just lots of reps of exercises that are difficult for only a few reps. My first two times, I had to scale the amount of reps down to 50% or more. After that, they tended to get easier in the sense that they were more core and lower body. I'm able to recover in those areas easier, so I could do the entire work outs. I guess I have a weak upper body because when it comes to doing 4 sets of 50 push-ups, I barely make it through the first set, then I'm pretty much done. I can't even do ten push-ups in a row after that. Jumps squats I can do each time though. I don't compete with anyone at this point, I just try to make it through the work outs. I'm not really to the point where I can go from set to set without rest. At this point, I've noticeably lost weight and this type of exercise helps my recovery, so it is making me a better runner. I'm happy as heck so far.
Irv everyone has different strengths.. Don't think less of yourself, just try and improve. A year ago 85# squats killed me. Now I can 10 rep 255 for 5 sets. I can't go heavier.. For being broken and not going to risk it. I've dropped 10# in two weeks. I intend to be back at 185 by turkey day. Rowed 3 miles in 15 min tonight.
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I can do lat pull downs with more weight than I can bench press.
By the way Jer, the workout I've been doing is I guess what you call a garage style. No weights so far, just lots of reps of exercises that are difficult for only a few reps. My first two times, I had to scale the amount of reps down to 50% or more. After that, they tended to get easier in the sense that they were more core and lower body. I'm able to recover in those areas easier, so I could do the entire work outs. I guess I have a weak upper body because when it comes to doing 4 sets of 50 push-ups, I barely make it through the first set, then I'm pretty much done. I can't even do ten push-ups in a row after that. Jumps squats I can do each time though. I don't compete with anyone at this point, I just try to make it through the work outs. I'm not really to the point where I can go from set to set without rest. At this point, I've noticeably lost weight and this type of exercise helps my recovery, so it is making me a better runner. I'm happy as heck so far.
Awesome man. Keep it up! One tip I can give you is whatever you hate or suck at is probably what you need to do most. Don't skip stuff you dislike because it's probably something your body needs. Also, when you think you're done you can probably do more. [Flower]
Great, Ebola spread right out of Texas into this thread. When will it end?!
SO fucking sick of Ebola already and there's like two people with it. Can't wait until it's a full blown epidemic.
So I got to start OLY lifting again... Snatch.. Jerks.. The fun stuff. I'm going pretty light right now but I fully intend to get back to bw on all of them.
Did some ghd sit ups and I'm not really liking how the feel on my back, don't see myself doing them often.
On a side note... I'm in lust with the new girl at the gym... She's hot and pretty cool... And she will be mine.
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
Not a real big fan of GHD's man. There's enough stuff for core strength that I never do them as it's a lot of strain on your back until you develop a very strong core. My wife was doing a bunch of GHD's after a workout because she didn't feel like her abs had got enough of a workout. Two days later he abs were killing and we did a ton of core stuff like planks and what not. She understood what i was telling her about just doing the workouts and letting them vary the body groups and such. If you go often enough and hit the workout as prescribed you won't need to do any extra work plus you won't have energy for it anyway. If you do you could have done more work during the workout and you're not supposed to leave anything on the table. Intensity is key.
As for babes... I know what you mean man. That's another place that Crossfit gyms differ from regular gyms.... all the chicks are somkin' hot and it's nearly a 50/50 mix which you don't see at any gyms I've been to. My wife fits right in. [Beer]
Irv everyone has different strengths.. Don't think less of yourself, just try and improve. A year ago 85# squats killed me. Now I can 10 rep 255 for 5 sets. I can't go heavier.. For being broken and not going to risk it. I've dropped 10# in two weeks. I intend to be back at 185 by turkey day. Rowed 3 miles in 15 min tonight.
Exactly. Sucks for me with this ongoing hip issue because I my workouts are predominately upper body and most of my strength is in my lower body. I'm one of the genetically blessed with large legs like tree stumps so I can't wait until i can start doing squats and what not too. Should help spike my testosterone levels and allow me to balance my workouts better and get some better progress. Injuries suck!
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I can do lat pull downs with more weight than I can bench press.
What's your grip like on bench press? Too narrow and you use more of your center pectoralis major. Too wide and you use more of your anterior delt & triceps. Make sure your grips is the proper distance to activate all muscle groups properly. A few workouts like this and you should see your weights start to increase.
some stupid gif's that could just as easily be weight lifters
And here's the weight lifter who's here to say all Crossfiters do it wrong and a weight lifter/body builder has never done a movement with improper movement right on schedule!
I don't bench press, ever, which is why I can't lift much. I'd like to start using more weights, but I'm not in any hurry, as these body weight workouts are killing me plenty.
I don't bench press, ever, which is why I can't lift much. I'd like to start using more weights, but I'm not in any hurry, as these body weight workouts are killing me plenty.
You can do a bunch of shit w/o any weight man. Air squats, push ups, burpees & sit ups are enough to keep you busy for a while.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 22:02
With all the information you've passed on to us. Perhaps you should become a personal trainer. AND get your NFA FFL [Beer]
OK. I skimmed through most of this thread and just have to chime in now...
You claim in the title that you don't want any "crossfit haters" but don't want to discuss the shortcomings of crossfit?!? Doesn't that put you exactly in the category of "The reason there is some "hate" against crossfit is the general elitist attitude that crossfit people bring. (post #4)" ? Isn't the concept of not willing to look at faults and make improvements contradictory to the philosophy of improving yourself? I'm avoiding the urge to point out the numerous injuries due to crossfit and the negative long term effects but then again, so is this whole thread...
BTW I don't do "crossfit" or "weight-lifting" or whatever you want to name it. There are better programs and methods for my needs/health/job requirements/etc...
With all the information you've passed on to us. Perhaps you should become a personal trainer. AND get your NFA FFL [Beer]
Perhaps. Maybe the two go together hand in hand. Crossfit Arms! See what I did there?
OK. I skimmed through most of this thread and just have to chime in now...
You claim in the title that you don't want any "crossfit haters" but don't want to discuss the shortcomings of crossfit?!? Doesn't that put you exactly in the category of "The reason there is some "hate" against crossfit is the general elitist attitude that crossfit people bring. (post #4)" ? Isn't the concept of not willing to look at faults and make improvements contradictory to the philosophy of improving yourself? I'm avoiding the urge to point out the numerous injuries due to crossfit and the negative long term effects but then again, so is this whole thread...
BTW I don't do "crossfit" or "weight-lifting" or whatever you want to name it. There are better programs and methods for my needs/health/job requirements/etc...
Actually, post #108 was more what I was trying to avoid. Immature stupid little jabs that do nothing to further an intelligent conversation. I've seen countless idiots at the traditional gyms over the years doing shit that I was pretty sure was going to end in their death at that very moment. At least with Crossfit they made me take a month of Fundamental classes that taught you every single part of the movements and then put them together and you had to demonstrate applied knowledge of said movement before you can move on. The trainers are even there during every single workout to help you with anything that is wrong in your movements. Yet it's funny that weight lifters always post up memes of someone doing a teenage mutant ninja turtle deadlift with a whimsical Crossfit degrading saying emblazoned across it like it couldn't possibly be weight lifters.
I use 'weight lifters' as a general term but it's actually more of a type of person than someone who does something. I know a lot of weight lifters/body builders who are rather intelligent and can see the benefits of Crossfit as well as the shortcomings and we can have intelligent discussions back and forth and can still be friends afterwards. What I don't dig is the knuckle draggers who only talk about 'gains!' bagging on Crossfit while felating each other when they don't know the first thing about it but join the group to feel like they belong since they probably don't belong in real life other than their nut-hugging double-digit IQ brethren. These people take the label 'elitist' and douse it with enough testosterone to take down a bull rhino but because they beat their chest & grunt while doing it it's somehow not elitist?
If that doesn't describe you then I'm all about having a conversation about Crossfit. Sorry if I didn't make clear what wasn't helpful to the thread.
Edit: I addressed post #4 and went back to read it and felt like it was a constructive conversation and don't see where I came across as elitist.
Nothing I'm doing is worth bragging about, so don't think that. I thought I'd start posting workouts because I always find it to be helpful, and inspiring when other people post what they are doing.
Tonight was
50 sit-ups
50 jump squats
50 V-ups
50 walking lungs
50 knee to elbow
50 burpees
50 scissors
------------- 3 minute break
100 jump rope
1 minute break
100 jump rope
30 sec break
100 jump rope
I knew straight off that I couldn't do 50 burpees, so I just did 10 between each exercise (starting after the sit-ups) so by the time I got to that part, I only had 10 more to do.
Jump Rope is usually very easy, but I just ran a pretty good 5k last night, so my calves are sore. Jump rope works the same area, so I was really feeling it.
Final note, this is NOT something I would be able to finish at home. I'd just think it was hard and quit. So the $5 I pay to go down the street and do it with other people is worth it to me.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 23:05
Perhaps. Maybe the two go together hand in hand. Crossfit Arms! See what I did there?
Even Better CheapFit. Home of the no nonsense, no charge for NFA transfers, shop.
Nothing I'm doing is worth bragging about, so don't think that. I thought I'd start posting workouts because I always find it to be helpful, and inspiring when other people post what they are doing.
Tonight was
50 sit-ups
50 jump squats
50 V-ups
50 walking lungs
50 knee to elbow
50 burpees
50 scissors
------------- 3 minute break
100 jump rope
1 minute break
100 jump rope
30 sec break
100 jump rope
I knew straight off that I couldn't do 50 burpees, so I just did 10 between each exercise (starting after the sit-ups) so by the time I got to that part, I only had 10 more to do.
Jump Rope is usually very easy, but I just ran a pretty good 5k last night, so my calves are sore. Jump rope works the same area, so I was really feeling it.
Final note, this is NOT something I would be able to finish at home. I'd just think it was hard and quit. So the $5 I pay to go down the street and do it with other people is worth it to me.
If jump roping is easy for you start working on double unders. On our WODs it's usually double unders and regular jump ropes are usually at 3:1 ratio. So if it's a 50 DU bye in and 50 DU cash out you actually do 300 jump ropes instead of 100 double unders total as book ends to the work out. The explosiveness you need takes roughly 3x the energy and helps with explosiveness. How long did that workout take you? Beginning to end including the 3min, 1min & 30sec break.
Or CheapFit
Nah. I like mine better.
Oh I don't know. I finished last (I don't care as long as I do as much as I can). Probably less than, but close to, 30 minutes. The guy told us to try double unders today. I didn't bother because the ropes aren't great and I knew I'd be pretty tired at the end of the work out. I'll get there. The first set I got to 91 before I screwed up. *Pro-tip: When you screw up jump rope while wearing Vibram Five Fingers, the rope gets stuck between your toes EVERY TIME. So instead of just stepping back in, you have to step on the rope with one foot, while you yank it out of your other foot.
Oh I don't know. I finished last (I don't care as long as I do as much as I can). Probably less than, but close to, 30 minutes. The guy told us to try double unders today. I didn't bother because the ropes aren't great and I knew I'd be pretty tired at the end of the work out. I'll get there. The first set I got to 91 before I screwed up. *Pro-tip: When you screw up jump rope while wearing Vibram Five Fingers, the rope gets stuck between your toes EVERY TIME. So instead of just stepping back in, you have to step on the rope with one foot, while you yank it out of your other foot.
30min is a long time to try to keep your intensity up. The bulk of our METCONS fall in the 10-12min range. 30min of that many movements & reps might start being counterproductive to building lean muscle. I know with HIIT you want to have as much explosiveness as you can for a very short duration and if you go beyond this you will start being counterproductive. A good way to think about it: Think of all the marathon or cross country runners you've ever seen. What do they look like? Now think of Olympic sprinters and what their builds are like. Which would you rather look like? Olympic lifters don't lift weights because of vanity, their bodies naturally maintain more muscle because it supplies hormones they need in an instant for sprinting. If you go longer than sprints your body will actually start breaking down muscle to feed itself. There's a lot more technical jargon to it and some of the physiology I don't even fully understand (or recall) but that's the basic idea anyway. The problem you're going to run into is w/o weights you're not going to have the kind of resistance needed to do the higher weight, lower rep count stuff to build the strength you want. You'll get killer cardio and drop weight but if you desire to put on some mass you'll need to change things up a bit. Just starting out though anything you do is good so don't over think it too much. Just know that eventually you'll want to look into some tweaks possibly.
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I definitely don't fit into either category. I've learned to find positive aspects in everything and also ways to improve upon them, not taking traditional norms in blind faith. I agree with most in this thread that there are many benefits of doing crossfit, for certain types of people. I do not think crossfit is ideal for everyone. For people who are looking to get into, or back into shape, have limited time to dedicate to it, and enjoy the camaraderie found at most crossfit boxes; it is perfect. I'm glad to see that the sport has taken a better and more thorough approach to correct form as that has not always been the case. Any time you're doing olympic style lifts and trying to hurry is a sure path to an injury. Yes, it can happen anywhere with any lifting style as there are numerous lifters with torn pectorals, hamstrings, etc.., however weight + rush = injury.
I've done a few WODs and always get picked on for doing dead hang pull ups instead of "kipping" however I'm not going for just checking the box that I did X reps...I need to be able to pull myself up and over a wall from a dead hang (I will point out that the local crossfit coach couldn't do it despite being able to do 37 "crossfit" pull ups). I also need to focus on tomorrow. I need to be able to do my job tomorrow and not have my knees any more damaged than they already are. Crossfit does little, if any, to promote longevity. The abuse on joints is well documented despite crossfits relative new status as a sport (12-15 yrs or so), and there is little focus on adequate recovery cycles.
As I stated before, there are benefits to it, just not for me. I agree with some of the concepts but not all of them. It is not "functional fitness" for my life. I don't ride a desk though and do enough agility running, squatting, jumping up, carries, (mostly in armor) etc... in a normal day to qualify for several WODs. I need something a bit more specialized. Either way, its good to see people out at the gym/box consistently and yes, the women are good to look at. For examples of what I'm working with, google Ranger Athlete Warrior program v.4 or SOF athlete on Instagram.
I already do want to look at tweaks. I understand the weight stuff. I know the workout on Monday was over in like 15 minutes. I'll start paying more attention to time. I'm usually there for an hour, but there is a lot of talking before, and after.
Just for Jer (and anyone else interested in our physical limits). First half deals with physical limits, second half with mental limits. Great program this weekend.
Radio Lab: Limits
https://www.wnyc.org/radio/#/ondemand/233680
The video of Julie Moss crossing the finish line of the Iron Man, crawling on the ground, is pretty cool too.
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In case you're wondering, yes she did crap her pants.
In case you're wondering, yes she did crap her pants.
That's hot!
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Update Jer?
I wasn't aware anyone was even following anymore.
I've been going 4-5 days per week now and am still working around injuries. I'm getting more 'in shape' and stronger but not losing weight. In fact, I've gained probably 10lbs or so as I track my weight to the tenth of a pound daily when I wake up after I pee but before I drink water so I have a pretty consistent idea of where my weight is. This can be disheartening to look at the number alone when my focus is trying to lose weight to take pressure off of my joints and such. Someday when the fat starts coming off at a faster rate than lean muscle goes on I will see weight loss but as of right now no real weight loss to report. I know it's good weight gain though because I gain a tenth or so every other day during the week when I'm working out & there have been a few times now where I've had to take a break for a week or two due to injury or traveling and my weight steadily decreases when I take time off. That and all of my lifts have gotten stronger & I'm using tighter notches on the belts so I know I'm heading the right direction. We still love it and I just wish I would have started a decade ago because I'm sure I'd be healthier today and not as injury prone as I am now. I wasn't one to get injured playing sports or working out when I was younger and was very active but the last decade or so of lazy coupled with old-age has really done me no favors. I still recommend it to everyone who asks and I feel as though it's one of the best ways to get into shape. It's a blast! We've had some rough workouts and the rougher they are the better you feel when you complete it... especially if you do well.
In fact, my last workout was probably my best to date following what was probably my most disappointing workout to day. The disappointing one was purely due to injury and not due to lack of effort on my part. I had to tap out for the first time during a workout since I started and was unable to find suitable work arounds mid-workout. I'm nursing the sore shoulder still and in addition I think I've developed a bulged disc in my mid-back similar to the one I had in my neck for the first half of last year... pre-Crossfit. So I'm not blaming Crossfit for my back issue but the two injuries coupled make it very difficult to work around sometimes. I was pretty bummed for about 23hrs or so but the following workout (my last one) was awesome. Here's how it broke down:
400m run for warmup
DROMs (mobility & stretching)
10min whatever you want to work on (more mobility for me trying to rehab the shoulder and back)
Strength: pull-ups - 4 rounds of max effort (lots of times we do a compound Oly lift here)
METCON (primary portion of workout for those who don't follow Crossfit):
3 Deadlight (60% of one-rep max)
3 burpees
3 box jumps
Rest 2min
Repeat two more times total
I started out and the deadlift felt light so it got me into the sprint mindset right out of the gate when looking at it I thought it might be a little bit of a slower pace. Knocked out the first round in about a minute and 20 seconds. I was taking my 2min break when I noticed one of the coaches was also on his break (finished before me about 10-15 seconds) and about 30sec after I stared my break he was back on round two. Well... eff that noise! I thought to myself and cut my rest too as I wasn't that out of breath. Bam! Knocked out the 2nd round in pretty much the same speed as the first round and got to me break. Cut it short again and took off on round three. I remember the 2nd burpee laying on the floor for a couple of second to catch my breath and then on the 2nd box jump my right leg wouldn't even jump (lol) but luckily I wasn't over the box when I realized this. I took a second, got my composure and finished strong at 7:38. In 2nd place to the coach. My wife finished around 10min which was mid-pack to give you an idea. Then, one of the co-owners said that for most it wasn't a high-cardio workout (most went a medium pace like I had planned on since it was just a total time for the whole thing) so for those that wanted more cardio we could do a 1000m row sprint. Sign me up! I shouted. lol I ended up doing a 3:42 1000m row immediately following that METCON which I felt was pretty damn solid. Not too bad for a fatass coming up on his 37 year old birthday tomorrow. [LOL]
Well done. When I do the crossfit/plyometric workouts, I notice the benefit in my running. I just topped my best 5k time the other night by 23 seconds, when before I got within a second. Honestly I think it is a fluke because I tripped over the dog and fell in the street, coming to a complete stop. THEN, the dog pulled out of her harness and I had to put it back on in the dark. So blasting a record by 23 seconds with TWO complete stops sounds like a fluke to me.
Glad to hear you're feeling more healthy all the time.
Well done. When I do the crossfit/plyometric workouts, I notice the benefit in my running. I just topped my best 5k time the other night by 23 seconds, when before I got within a second. Honestly I think it is a fluke because I tripped over the dog and fell in the street, coming to a complete stop. THEN, the dog pulled out of her harness and I had to put it back on in the dark. So blasting a record by 23 seconds with TWO complete stops sounds like a fluke to me.
Glad to hear you're feeling more healthy all the time.
I am if it wasn't for these stupid injuries that seem to keep creeping up.
Nice job Jer, I don't have much to add but from the weigh-in side have you checked out trendweight.com? It's free and is actually very cool, especially when paired with a Wifi scale.
Nice job Jer, I don't have much to add but from the weigh-in side have you checked out trendweight.com? It's free and is actually very cool, especially when paired with a Wifi scale.
Thanks man. Nah, haven't checked it out but I don't put a whole lot into what the scale says at this point because I know I'm substantially healthier now than I was a year ago even at 10lbs lighter.
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