Bystanders save officer (Woman) being beaten by suspect along I-25

[CO Hugh]

http://kdvr.com/2014/09/08/bystanders-save-officer-being-beaten-by-suspect-along-i-25/

"DENVER — Two passers-by saved a police officer Saturday as she was allegedly being beaten by a suspect on the side of the road, the Denver Police Department reported.
About 5 p.m. Saturday, Officer Aubree Thompson contacted Stephen Hamper, 26, along the on-ramp leading from Downing Street to I-25, DPD said. Witnesses had reported that Hamper was washing clothes in a drain on the highway.
Thompson judged that the suspect was acting strange, and moved to handcuff him. She was able to get one cuff on, but Hamper then attacked her, punching her several times in the face, DPD alleged.
Hamper broke loose from Thompson, and ran to her patrol car, possibly looking for a weapon or her keys. He then returned and resumed beating the officer in her face and body, DPD said. Officer Thompson was knocked to the ground, and Hamper managed to pin her and continue striking her, according to a probable cause affidavit.
Hamper then allegedly tried to take Thompson’s pistol, but she was able to retain it.
Thompson said she saw a citizen standing nearby and could hear him telling Hamper to get off of her and to stop. Two other citizens subsequently stopped and helped Thompson wrestle Hamper into custody, DPD said.
Police allege that during the assault, Hamper said, “If I would have gotten her gun, I would have killed her. You guys kill children and old ladies.”
Hamper has prior arrests for domestic violence, harassment involving physical force, obstructing police, burglary, trespassing in a dwelling, property damage, DUI and careless driving, according to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
The officer was out of the hospital Monday night."

Comments: women are equal again?!

[sniper7]

Jeez. Too bad she didn't get to shoot this dumbass.

makes me wonder, what would happen if you shot this guy while CCW. I think a medal from hickenlooper would be in order, but he would probably have the da press charges.

[Bailey Guns]

I know your comments were probably tongue-in-cheek, but any half-assed lawyer could defend a lethal use of force in that instance. Because, obviously, the suspect was attempting to get the officer's gun. Her life, and others, would have been in imminent danger had he actually taken her gun. There's no way that couldn't be seen as a good shoot, even by Hickenlooper.

[HoneyBadger]

There's no way that couldn't be seen as a good shoot, even by Hickenlooper.
You overestimate him.

[SuperiorDG]

You overestimate him.

I'm sure her fellow officers would love you; however.

[speedysst]

So you're saying that an unarmed suspect could, in fact, be an imminent danger to an officer and that deadly force could be justified? Hmmm...


http://kdvr.com/2014/09/08/bystanders-save-officer-being-beaten-by-suspect-along-i-25/

"DENVER — Two passers-by saved a police officer Saturday as she was allegedly being beaten by a suspect on the side of the road, the Denver Police Department reported.
About 5 p.m. Saturday, Officer Aubree Thompson contacted Stephen Hamper, 26, along the on-ramp leading from Downing Street to I-25, DPD said. Witnesses had reported that Hamper was washing clothes in a drain on the highway.
Thompson judged that the suspect was acting strange, and moved to handcuff him. She was able to get one cuff on, but Hamper then attacked her, punching her several times in the face, DPD alleged.
Hamper broke loose from Thompson, and ran to her patrol car, possibly looking for a weapon or her keys. He then returned and resumed beating the officer in her face and body, DPD said. Officer Thompson was knocked to the ground, and Hamper managed to pin her and continue striking her, according to a probable cause affidavit.
Hamper then allegedly tried to take Thompson’s pistol, but she was able to retain it.
Thompson said she saw a citizen standing nearby and could hear him telling Hamper to get off of her and to stop. Two other citizens subsequently stopped and helped Thompson wrestle Hamper into custody, DPD said.
Police allege that during the assault, Hamper said, “If I would have gotten her gun, I would have killed her. You guys kill children and old ladies.”
Hamper has prior arrests for domestic violence, harassment involving physical force, obstructing police, burglary, trespassing in a dwelling, property damage, DUI and careless driving, according to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
The officer was out of the hospital Monday night."

Comments: women are equal again?!

[kidicarus13]

"Allegedly being beaten"- gotta love how politically correct that statement is [sarcasm]

[Ronin13]

So you're saying that an unarmed suspect could, in fact, be an imminent danger to an officer and that deadly force could be justified? Hmmm...
Yep. One need not a weapon to be considered a danger. But SHHHH! Don't tell liberals that, they'll freak out and call you a liar.

[Limited GM]

Without going into the "going to the car possibly looking for keys or her gun" fiasco...

I'm reminded of the movie "the girl with the dragon tatto." When the guys escaping after trying to kill the guy, the girl asks "may I kill him?" And the dude nods his head. I can see this cop doing the same.

[Great-Kazoo]

So you're saying that an unarmed suspect could, in fact, be an imminent danger to an officer and that deadly force could be justified? Hmmm...


Yep. One need not a weapon to be considered a danger. But SHHHH! Don't tell liberals that, they'll freak out and call you a liar.

Not always, depending how PC the dept is. My nephew's in the academy, back east. Seeing how it was going, he said. Here's a question on my latest test, for using deadly force. He got it wrong.

IF an assailant is 15' from you and approaching with a knife can you use deadly force?

I'll leave this here a few then give you the PD policy answer.

[UncleDave]

21 foot rule

[Graves]

21 foot rule

How does this apply when she's trying to cuff the scumbag?

[Gman]

"No. You must first determine what kind of knife, how they are holding the knife, what the knife wielder's intent may be, and whether the knife wielder may just be having a bad day."

[Bailey Guns]

"No. You must first determine what kind of knife, how they are holding the knife, what the knife wielder's intent may be, and whether the knife wielder may just be having a bad day."

You forgot "did mommy spank and/or otherwise abuse him as a child or not breast feed him long enough".

[Bailey Guns]

Not always, depending how PC the dept is. My nephew's in the academy, back east. Seeing how it was going, he said. Here's a question on my latest test, for using deadly force. He got it wrong.

IF an assailant is 15' from you and approaching with a knife can you use deadly force?

I'll leave this here a few then give you the PD policy answer.

My guess is they suggest the officer create more distance between him/herself and the armed suspect, or seek cover, and/or try to talk him into dropping the knife.

[Great-Kazoo]

21 foot rule


"No. You must first determine what kind of knife, how they are holding the knife, what the knife wielder's intent may be, and whether the knife wielder may just be having a bad day."


My guess is they suggest the officer create more distance between him/herself and the armed suspect, or seek cover, and/or try to talk him into dropping the knife.


AND THE CORRECT ANSWER IS................................................ ....................
UNTIL, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT the knife is pointed towards said officer. Said officer MAY NOT DISCHARGE his / her weapon! [facepalm] If it is pointed down assailant DOES NOT POSE A THREAT.

[Bailey Guns]

Fail...

[Gman]

I guess they're highly confident in their body armor. Point down can turn into an uppercut in an instant.

...but let's not let logic get in the way of a good agenda.

[rockhound]

could you just wound him, or use a stun gun, he would never hurt anyone

[Great-Kazoo]

Fail...

His answer was a little longer that that.
The PC of today's big city LE agency's has done nothing but put large targets on those in uniform. Hopefully he will listen, graduate do 6 months to a year, then start looking out here.
I'm worried about him and our other nephew becoming scape goats for political CYA 101.

It's a sad day in America when a 2x violent felon shot while standing over the body of a 14yr old he just raped and killed, is given more representation, then the LE who relieved him of his oxygen supply.

[stoner01]

Personally if I hadn't of done a contact shot to his head, maybe my 26" hickory baton would have been handy.

[BushMasterBoy]

Been there, done that.

[BPTactical]

Yet it's officer shoots unarmed black teen in the back (no allegedly)

We are dying from a virus called political correctness....

You read my mind Trot.

[sniper7]

How does this apply when she's trying to cuff the scumbag?

Only hire officers with unusually long arms?

[BPTactical]

Only hire officers with unusually long arms?

Nah, they got enough knuckledraggers already.....

[Hound]

This looks like a case where she could clearly have shot him and been in the "right", from what is stated and corroborated by others. Good for her and those that came to her rescue. I am glad she is safe. This is the way it should be, protecting each other.