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Jumpstart
06-08-2009, 06:57
Opinions and/or comments?
1.What is preferable to you U.S. made Berreta or Italian?
2.Ergonomics
3. Good price for a used one?
4. Flaws or defects of the model
5. Pics of yours?
SA Friday
06-08-2009, 13:04
1. Doesn't matter.
2. Ergo's are not bad at all if you have a larger hand. Small hands, the trigger is quite a stretch.
3. Depends on the round count.
4. Beretta 92FS slides and locking block wings are netorious for cracking at a low round count. I've seen this happen with as little as 10k rounds. This is why Beretta came out with the heavier slide models. Second is the DA trigger pull from the factory is HEAVY.
5. Sorry, I won't own one so no pics.
Jumpstart
06-08-2009, 16:10
4. Beretta 92FS slides and locking block wings are netorious for cracking at a low round count. I've seen this happen with as little as 10k rounds. This is why Beretta came out with the heavier slide models. Second is the DA trigger pull from the factory is HEAVY.
My understanding is the Berreta F is the version that had the breakage concerns in testing with the Navy Seals (?). The result was that the FS was developed with the larger/heavier pin. This rectified the pin breaking and the slide flying off the backend after multiple thousands of rounds as what had happened on occasion with the F Model. Mind you, the Seals (?) were putting thousands of rounds through the F weekly.
Hmmmmm......
SA Friday
06-08-2009, 16:34
My understanding is the Berreta F is the version that had the breakage concerns in testing with the Navy Seals (?). The result was that the FS was developed with the larger/heavier pin. This rectified the pin breaking and the slide flying off the backend after multiple thousands of rounds as what had happened on occasion with the F Model. Mind you, the Seals (?) were putting thousands of rounds through the F weekly.
Hmmmmm......
It may very well have been the F instead of the FS model, but the slides and wings are the same on both. I saw two Beretta M-9's come apart while being shot at the AFOSI Academy back in 1999. Neither had over 60k on them. AFOSI, NCIS, and CID (and a few others in the military) all went to M-11 a couple of years after the M-9 became the primarly military pistol. We just couldn't keep them running. The pin wasn't the problem. The wings on the block and the portion of the slide honed out to accomidate the wings are. They are the weakest links in the gun, and makes the slide suseptable to cracking at that point. The rear half of the slide is retained by a pin in the back right of the receiver stopping the slide from leaving the receiver to the rear. When both sides go, the slide comes apart, the front half and the barrel go down range and the rear half of the slide gets jammed onto the receiver by retaining pin.
Hey, slides crack. Seen Glocks, STI, Berettas, etc all crack slides. But, the M-9s do this consistantly sooner than the rest. Most pistols in the same category are made to take well over 100k without coming apart.
They are very accurate firearms, but I would steer towards the beefier slide models. I know a couple of USPSA shooters using Berettas at the Grand Master level. The triggers do need work on them though, IMO. Anything over the 7-8lb area for a DA trigger pull is just excessive. Minimum DA trigger pull on the M-9 was 12.5 lbs. Not sure about the civ models.
The advantage the firearm has in it's design is the barrel doesn't move during the firing sequence. It makes it very accurate, and very compatible for a suppressor.
I have a 92 FS that I use for USPSA and IDPA matches. I use it when I need to take some of the guys in the squadron out for some one on one M9 training or when I am getting ready to head overseas and will be carrying one every day.
Its big, heavy, the DA pull blows, and the sights pretty much suck.
But two of the four can be fixed.
All in all they are ok, but there is better options out there.
Just make sure you have big hands and youll be fine.
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