Ken Burns The Roosevelts

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The first part was last night. I thought it was pretty well done.

Both TR and FDR went trough some tough times, looking forward to watching the rest of the series (ch 12).

[Uberjager]

Ken Burns makes good stuff.

[Bailey Guns]

Crap...forgot to set the DVR.

[cstone]

They may have the same last name, but I try not to put Theodore in the same sentence with Franklin. I still need to get up to Dickinson, ND.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I love Ken Burns stuff but I'm not watching anything that deifies that SOB FDR. Even TR called FDR a scalawag.

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Can't agree more, they reeked of progressiveness and scandal. Probably second only to the Kennedy family in greed, womanizing and corruptness

Like em or not, they are part of our fouled up history.

[Great-Kazoo]

Can't agree more, they reeked of progressiveness and scandal. Probably second only to the Kennedy family in greed, womanizing and corruptness

Like em or not, they are part of our fouled up history.

I believe those who voted for them share some of that responsibility.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Can't agree more, they reeked of progressiveness and scandal. Probably second only to the Kennedy family in greed, womanizing and corruptness

Like em or not, they are part of our fouled up history.

Whoa, don't lump TR in with FDR. There is no supporting record of greed, womanizing, or corruption on TR's part. To the contrary, TR established the Civil Rights Commission to eliminate corruption in the civil service system. The reason the Establishment Republican Party hated TR was that he wouldn't go along with the greed and corruption within the party at the time. He accepted the invite of the Progressive Party (and despite current historical rewrites, the Progressive Party of the early 20th century bore little resemblance to today's Communist Socialist Democratic Party) because he was appalled at the corruption he perceived in the Taft Administration.

TR's Square Deal had precious little to do with FDR's New Deal, FDR just appropriated the name to appeal to people who remembered his famous cousin.

[KestrelBike]

Whoa, don't lump TR in with FDR. There is no supporting record of greed, womanizing, or corruption on TR's part. To the contrary, TR established the Civil Rights Commission to eliminate corruption in the civil service system. The reason the Establishment Republican Party hated TR was that he wouldn't go along with the greed and corruption within the party at the time. He accepted the invite of the Progressive Party (and despite current historical rewrites, the Progressive Party of the early 20th century bore little resemblance to today's Communist Socialist Democratic Party) because he was appalled at the corruption he perceived in the Taft Administration.

TR's Square Deal had precious little to do with FDR's New Deal, FDR just appropriated the name to appeal to people who remembered his famous cousin.

The one thing negative I can think about TR was he was pretty reckless with the troops under his command. Unnecessarily exposing them to enemy fire, so he could 'get some'. At least, that's what I read some time ago.

[Bailey Guns]

The one thing negative I can think about TR was he was pretty reckless with the troops under his command. Unnecessarily exposing them to enemy fire, so he could 'get some'. At least, that's what I read some time ago.

Maybe...I don't know. But he lead from the front. He probably just expected those that served under him to be as brave as he was.

[funkymonkey1111]

George Will's comment at the beginning was apt: they both viewed the constitution as a nuisance. sorta reminds me of a guy named barry.

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They both had feet of clay, only FDR wore a size 14 extra wide.

[Aloha_Shooter]

The one thing negative I can think about TR was he was pretty reckless with the troops under his command. Unnecessarily exposing them to enemy fire, so he could 'get some'. At least, that's what I read some time ago.

I'm not sure where you read that, probably from some Demoncrat rewrite of history. TR was pretty popular with his Rough Riders and they'd have been the best judge of whether he was reckless with their lives. As Bailey said, TR led from the front. I would also note that TR wasn't the only one calling for a charge and the American forces were losing troops to illness day-by-day (including their commanding generals). At some point, you have to bite the bullet and take your losses fast or you'll take your losses slowly and become combat ineffective anyway.