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lead_magnet
09-23-2014, 17:52
I'm thinking of selling my desktop (HP) to try and fund an Ipad. I don't use the laptop much as it is, and everything I do on my pc I can accomplish on an Ipad. Anyway, my pc is still a good PC, its an HP pavilion Elite HPC with like 800Gb of hard drive space and I think 8gb of RAM or something, I dunno, not really a tech guy. Anyway, long story short, I want to sell the PC, but I have used it for all of my online banking and I have financial records on it as well as your average Joe stuff (ie. nude pics of the wife :p), and I don't want the next guy to be able to recover my stuff. How do I prep it for sale? Is a system restore enough or do I need to pull a hard drive or do I have to just trash it? Thanks in advance, I'm not a very tech savvy guy.

brutal
09-23-2014, 17:58
If you're super paranoid, pull the drive and sell it as is or put in something else. They're cheap.

I would just use a good free drive/data wipe utility. There's a good list here - DBAN seems to be the current internet darling.

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/tp/free-data-destruction-software.htm

TFOGGER
09-23-2014, 18:00
Free drive cleaner software:

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

http://eraser.heidi.ie/

Both can be run from a usb drive, and offer several different levels of overwrite security.

Ah Pook
09-23-2014, 23:38
Doing the same as we speak. It's a Mac, so I'm sure it doesn't count as a real computer. [sorry]

Delete documents, pictures, contacts/phone book, history, internet files... Everything but applications/exec files.

brutal
09-23-2014, 23:44
Doing the same as we speak. It's a Mac, so I'm sure it doesn't count as a real computer. [sorry]

Delete documents, pictures, contacts/phone book, history, internet files... Everything but applications/exec files.

If you don't overwrite deleted files, they're recoverable.

00tec
09-24-2014, 06:40
Do you have the hp restore discs?
Run dban, then reinstall the operating system. Running something like dban is the only way to permanantly clear everything, but the computer will be not be worth as much without the OS. Hp will sell you the restore discs for like $20.

Danimal
09-24-2014, 06:50
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spqrzilla
09-24-2014, 18:04
Used computer equipment does not really sell for a lot these days, frankly.

68Charger
09-24-2014, 18:26
I've seen people selling PCs with no HDD... but it will greatly reduce the price you get.

Depending on what you had on it (Financial info), I'd look at value vs getting another drive (they are cheap for desktops)

I can tell you I've done some PC refurbs for my Brother-in-Law, and we just reset the operating system, install updates and sell it... I'm sure a real good forensic software could find some data, but I seriously doubt 99% of the population has that kind of knowledge.

I don't sell PCs my own data has been on, I hand them down to my kids and they die a slow death, and the HDDs become targets before disposal.

HoneyBadger
09-24-2014, 20:01
I remember helping my paranoid dad smash old hard drives with sledgehammers in the late 90s... it was fun.

Now a days I like to keep them around. I generally don't sell old computers... just rebuild them, or use them until they are totally dead and worthless. I have a stack of older HDDs that I'll probably burn, smash, shoot, or otherwise destroy someday. Oh yeah, did I mention that I double-wrap two different types of encryption on all my drives? :D

sniper7
09-24-2014, 23:45
I remember helping my paranoid dad smash old hard drives with sledgehammers in the late 90s... it was fun.

Now a days I like to keep them around. I generally don't sell old computers... just rebuild them, or use them until they are totally dead and worthless. I have a stack of older HDDs that I'll probably burn, smash, shoot, or otherwise destroy someday. Oh yeah, did I mention that I double-wrap two different types of encryption on all my drives? :D


If only you had double wrapped your single drive that one time you wouldn't have to scratch so much! [Coffee]

cstone
09-25-2014, 22:15
DBAN has been around for years. For the mere cost of a writable CD, and leaving the computer running over night, it will wipe your hard drive quite nicely.

The simpler fix is to pull the hard drive and use it for target practice. Pick up a small cheap hard drive from Micro Center to replace it.

68Charger
09-25-2014, 22:48
The funny story at my work- they had a list of allowable methods for destroying a HDD- you could encrypt it, or wipe it with software like DBAN (multiple writes, 7 I think was their majik number), or there were "physical disposal methods"

I had a desktop that the M/B fried on, and it was the last desktop in our Dept... a 3.5" HDD doesn't connect easily to a laptop- so I looked at the physical disposal methods allowed- drilling at least 5 3/8" holes thru the platters was acceptable- so I figured .308 was close enough after expansion, and did 7 holes to be sure... the procedure said nothing about what method could be used to drill the holes, or at what distance...

The desktop guy was at first a bit disturbed, but agreed nobody was getting data off that drive and signed off that I had disposed of it properly.

Ah Pook
09-25-2014, 23:22
Degauss the hard drive and reload the operating system.

asmo
09-25-2014, 23:48
DBAN or Thermite the drive.

rondog
09-26-2014, 02:19
50053

davsel
09-26-2014, 09:50
Don't be paranoid.
Just back it all up to the cloud and then change your PC logon password.
You'll be fine.

rbeau30
09-26-2014, 10:18
This is a shooting forum, why hasn't this been mentioned?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyfzsmoa4gI

asmo
09-26-2014, 10:24
This is a shooting forum, why hasn't this been mentioned?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyfzsmoa4gI

Because you can still recover data from a drive after it has been shot.

kidicarus13
09-26-2014, 10:26
This is a shooting forum, why hasn't this been mentioned?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyfzsmoa4gI

Because everyone freaks out if you shoot anything besides paper or steel targets at the range with cries of "no wonder shooting ranges are being closed" and "irresponsible".

Ah Pook
09-27-2014, 12:21
Degauss
DBAN
Dehandgrenade
Debullet

All good choices. [Evil]

brutal
09-27-2014, 12:22
Degauss
DBAN
Dehandgrenade
Debullet

All good choices. [Evil]

hahaha deplane deplane came to mind.

funnay

ChuckO
09-27-2014, 12:39
Or throw it in the shredder...