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Hound
10-06-2014, 11:08
Here is a nice switch in New Jersey of all places:



Man Shoots Down Drone, Lawyers Scratch Their Heads
Is it wrong to shoot a robo-trespasser?
By Kelsey D. Atherton Posted 10.02.2014 at 3:45 pm



http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/man-shoots-down-drone-lawyers-scratch-their-heads

Johnny Dronehunter A still from "Johnny Dronehunter," an ad for shotgun silencer maker SilencerCo. In the ad, the protagonist shoots down a bunch of drones with a shotgun like so many clay pigeons. SilencerCo
Shooting down a small drone is hard. But determining whether people should be allowed to do so may prove more difficult still. A man in New Jersey fired a shotgun at his neighbor's drone, and as the quadcopter crashed to the ground, the incident raised new legal challenges about when and if it’s okay to shoot a robot.


Police arrested the New Jersey man, charging him with “Possession of a Weapon for an Unlawful Purpose and Criminal Mischief”. In this case, courts might find that, by firing the shotgun at the drone, the man is guilty of destruction of property. The use of force is often only legally permissible to prevent a physical threat, and a wandering drone, like a trespassing cow, is inconvenient but not an imminent danger.


Courts might rule that a trespass by drone is unlike a trespass by a pet. Drones can carry cameras, so a drone flying into a backyard isn’t just trespassing, it’s a threat to privacy. It’s also possible to put a weapon on a small drone and attack someone, even if it hasn’t happened yet. If a person shot down a drone because they believed themselves to be in danger (or actually were in danger; state laws differ), and not just because it was annoying them, then it’s possible that self-defense is a valid justification.


The law is unclear here, and there isn’t a lot of direct precedent for people shooting down a flying camera robot, which means the future of drone law could hinge on one annoyed New Jersey man and a shotgun.

HoneyBadger
10-06-2014, 11:19
Interesting how this will turn out... What if you didn't know who the drone belonged to and it was actually your local police? Lots of questions and complications arise.

Wulf202
10-06-2014, 12:05
A friend of mine attacked a drone that was looking into his kids bedroom windows one night

kidicarus13
10-06-2014, 12:13
What if you didn't know who the drone belonged to and it was actually your local police?

What if someone pointed a gun at you who you couldn't identify as police and they also did not announce who they were?

RCCrawler
10-06-2014, 12:14
Chances are it wasn't a "drone" it was probably a quad copter. The term "drone" is tossed around just like Glock is used to describe every pistol and AR-15 is used to describe every rifle.

I have a quad copter and fly it quite regularly, the pictures you get aren't much different than you can get from Google, and you sure can't see into windows.

00tec
10-06-2014, 12:30
Chances are it wasn't a "drone" it was probably a quad copter. The term "drone" is tossed around just like Glock is used to describe every pistol and AR-15 is used to describe every rifle.

I have a quad copter and fly it quite regularly, the pictures you get aren't much different than you can get from Google, and you sure can't see into windows.

Can we practice shooting at it?

Next time you have that thing out, I wanna chase my dog with it. :D

00tec
10-06-2014, 12:30
Dupe... Delete

BushMasterBoy
10-06-2014, 12:32
I'd plead not gill-teeth...

sniper7
10-06-2014, 12:45
I don't know officer, I heard a loud bang, I came outside and this thing was crashed and in pieces in my yard. I'll need to look around to see if it caused any damage the owner needs to pay for

Whistler
10-06-2014, 12:48
Chances are it wasn't a "drone" it was probably a quad copter. The term "drone" is tossed around just like Glock is used to describe every pistol and AR-15 is used to describe every rifle.

I have a quad copter and fly it quite regularly, the pictures you get aren't much different than you can get from Google, and you sure can't see into windows.

I have a couple quad copters, never tried taking a picture through a window but don't see why not. It can fly up to a window and hover, I can control the camera so the basic ingredients are there. Will have to give that try.

sellersm
10-06-2014, 13:02
What if someone pointed a gun at you who you couldn't identify as police and they also did not announce who they were?

What if it WAS a police 'agent' who was able to fly? Robo-cop/super-soldier type of entity?

HoneyBadger
10-06-2014, 13:13
What if it WAS a police 'agent' who was able to fly? Robo-cop/super-soldier type of entity?
What if it was ALIENS?

http://www.recaption.com/uploads/284374f558f572ff33.jpg

RCCrawler
10-06-2014, 13:19
Can we practice shooting at it?

Next time you have that thing out, I wanna chase my dog with it. :D

Randy and I took it shooting once, we were going to try to park it above a P-dog and get pics, It's WAY to hard to find a hole 300 yards out and get right over it though. P-dogs seemed to shy from it, rabbits didn't seem to care, horses didn't mind at all.


I have a couple quad copters, never tried taking a picture through a window but don't see why not. It can fly up to a window and hover, I can control the camera so the basic ingredients are there. Will have to give that try.

I've tried at my house messing with my kids, it doesn't work too well.

Hound
10-06-2014, 13:27
I no nuh-ting. Wha drone? Wha camera? I no see camera. You see camera? No? No see camera. Go way.

Until the last pic is of you with a supressed shotgun pointed directly at the camera!! [panic] Hehe!!!

Hound
10-06-2014, 13:28
Randy and I took it shooting once, we were going to try to park it above a P-dog and get pics, It's WAY to hard to find a hole 300 yards out and get right over it though. P-dogs seemed to shy from it.

I guarantee you they think it is a bird-o-prey and sound the alarm.

sniper7
10-06-2014, 14:51
Look Ned it's coming right for us!

lead_magnet
10-06-2014, 15:58
Why not make a drone that can take down other drones? Like equipped with a net made of fine cables or wire, by kamikaze, or like frikkin laser beams! Then it would be like that TV show that used to feature the fighting robots... that was a cool show.

Irving
10-06-2014, 16:08
If you shoot a police drone down, you are the same as a cop killer.

cfortune
10-06-2014, 16:13
Why not make a drone that can take down other drones? Like equipped with a net made of fine cables or wire, by kamikaze, or like frikkin laser beams! Then it would be like that TV show that used to feature the fighting robots... that was a cool show.

I'm a huge battle bots fan!



JK'ing but that show was hilarious to watch.