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From 12 minutes in it gets heated.You won't see this in the mainstream.The cops show amazing restraint.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/53742953
buffalobo
10-13-2014, 07:31
Them some fine upstanding citizens there.
Nothing like inciting violence to get your point across. I wonder if they will sing the same tune when they NEED a cop?
XC700116
10-13-2014, 07:42
It's pretty easy to act like a hard ass when you know damn well your "opponent" has his hands tied and can't do a damn thing.
HoneyBadger
10-13-2014, 08:28
Nothing like inciting violence to get your point across. I wonder if they will sing the same tune when they NEED a cop?
I wonder if the cops there find it difficult to muster up the motivation to respond to crimes in certain parts of town. I would be pissed if I put my life on the life to help someone and then they went apeshit stupid on me.
It's pretty easy to act like a hard ass when you know damn well your "opponent" has his hands tied and can't do a damn thing.
Yeah, these cops are in a real bad spot. Everyone else is throwing 5gal gas cans at the fire, just hoping it'll explode.
Honestly, between this and Ebola, now is a great time to be in the PPE business. Online retailers can't keep body armor, masks, or other "civil unrest" items in stock. It is also giving a ton of validation to once outcast "preppers" as people wake up and realize that they really don't want themselves or their families to be caught up in this.
mackbamf
10-13-2014, 10:14
Yeesh what a fucking mess. Maybe Ferguson needs to self govern themselves for a little while and see how that works out for them until it turns into an extended version of The Purge.
Looks fairly calm for a protest these days. Lots of words trying to goad the police to fight back. Frankly, it looks like some of the protesters could use the walk, may be the most exercise they have had in a while.
BREATHER
10-13-2014, 11:50
Anyone here know who Dillon Taylor is ?????
A white 20 year old WHITE guy in Utah shot by cops.... Tragic ... but how come his name isn't as well known as the asshat in Missouri
Jesus-With-A-.45
10-13-2014, 13:51
I wish/pray/plead to God that the police would completely remove themselves from ferguson & tell "those" people that they are now responsible for themselves & there own security & under no circumstance would the "evil, bigoted, racist" police come in & help them.
It would be fun to watch the whole town burn to the ground in less than 24 hours, it's time to teach people like that a lesson.
FBHO, FAS, FJJ, FEH, F$CK THEM ALL.
RblDiver
10-13-2014, 13:53
I wish/pray/plead to God that the police would completely remove themselves from ferguson & tell "those" people that they are now responsible for themselves & there own security & under no circumstance would the "evil, bigoted, racist" police come in & help them.
From "The police are racist for oppressing us" to "The police are racist for not helping us."
sneakerd
10-13-2014, 14:07
I completely agree. I would be strongly considering removing all PD patrol from certain areas. They want the police to leave? Then leave them alone to deal with their world. Any call into certain areas could/should be considered a trap and/or a set up.
HoneyBadger
10-13-2014, 14:31
I completely agree. I would be strongly considering removing all PD patrol from certain areas. They want the police to leave? Then leave them alone to deal with their world. Any call into certain areas could/should be considered a trap and/or a set up.
But then gangs could actually "own" territory and that is the last thing the PD wants...
mackbamf
10-13-2014, 14:44
But then gangs could actually "own" territory and that is the last thing the PD wants...
You would like to think that it would then be an eye opener as to the service that the police do provide. But for some reason me thinks not. It's no fun when you cannot blame others for some of your own problems because as we all know their local police department is the root cause for the plight in Ferguson...
sneakerd
10-13-2014, 15:08
Perhaps- and I know it sounds simplistic- but the protesters in that video want the police out of their neighborhood? They say they'll take care of their own. Good.
Ferguson needs more Ebola.
Not really. Ferguson just angers me.
HoneyBadger
10-13-2014, 16:15
Ferguson needs more Ebola.
Not really. Ferguson just angers me.
[ROFL3]
Many of the protesters do not live in Ferguson. Many of the people of Ferguson are tired of the protests and destruction and would like to go back to making a living, being able to drive to and from the store, and getting some sleep.
The police have a sworn obligation to uphold the law and maintain order. If the local police cannot fulfill that mandate, the county, state, or federal government will. I for one prefer local law enforcement over anything provided by the US Department of Justice.
The weatherman will soon bring an end to the protest season in Ferguson. The people I've seen in most of the Ferguson protests do not look like the hardy, hold hands and sing KumByYah in a freezing rain or snow type.
Be safe.
kidicarus13
10-13-2014, 18:22
From "The police are racist for oppressing us" to "The police are racist for not helping us."
If you're white you're labeled as racist in America 2014. Wait a second... is that a racist statement?
Aloha_Shooter
10-13-2014, 19:46
The weatherman will soon bring an end to the protest season in Ferguson. The people I've seen in most of the Ferguson protests do not look like the hardy, hold hands and sing KumByYah in a freezing rain or snow type.
Reminds me of when Occupy Colorado Springs was demonstrating down in Acacia Park. We hit a hellacious cold snap in the middle of it ... some of us wanted to go down there with coffee pots and stew pots with signs offering free grub and coffee to people who actually worked for a living ...
HoneyBadger
10-13-2014, 21:49
Good God, there's almost 20 of them!!! [LOL]
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/ferguson-protesters-march-at-upscale-plaza-frontenac-shopping-mall-in-st-louis/
The local police shut it down.
[LOL]
additional players have been added to the mix of protesters. Along with the support (http://www.seiu.org/2014/08/statement-by-seiu-president-mary-kay-henry-on-ferg.php) of Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and a mention from President Barack Obama at the United Nations during his remarks, other liberal interest groups found their way onto the Ferguson issue, including: national LGBT organizations (http://goqnotes.com/30856/national-lgbt-groups-sign-on-to-ferguson-statement/), climate environmentalists (http://350.org/how-racial-justice-is-integral-to-confronting-climate-crisis/), amnesty groups (http://fergusonoctober.com/schedule/ferguson-racism-latinos-fight-immigrant-rights/), pro-Palestinian organizations (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/03/Palestinian-Group-Plans-Weekend-of-Resistance-in-Ferguson), Christian social justice groups (http://fergusonoctober.com/schedule/faith-in-action-mobilizing-training/), and Planned Parenthood (http://www.lifenews.com/2014/08/20/planned-parenthood-president-uses-ferguson-situation-to-push-abortion/).
Abortion rights activist Cecile Richards posted on her Facebook page (http://www.lifenews.com/2014/08/20/planned-parenthood-president-uses-ferguson-situation-to-push-abortion/) on August 14 an illustration stating, “You deserve to parent your child without fear that he or she will be hurt or killed. Freedom from violence is Reproductive Justice.”[facepalm]
One young woman explained her small cardboard climate sign, saying she is traveling “the world to collect stories from people she meets about water and climate change, starting three weeks during the climate march in New York City and now here. “[facepalm]
“All struggles are connected—racial injustice is linked with climate injustice, and I’m here to show solidarity with this fight because an injustice to one person us an injustice to us all,” she said.[facepalm][facepalm]
Ferguson resident and pro-Palestinian protester “Jay” equates the issues black Americans face with the Palestinians on the Gaza strip.[facepalm][facepalm][facepalm]
“I feel that their struggle is the same as our struggle. We’re both fighting to be free. The same gas canisters the Israelis shoot at them are the same ones they shoot at us—made in the USA. It’s like the gas we sold to Saddam—made in the USA,” He said. “It’s the same issue. It’s all oppression. The oppressed stand with the oppressed and we’re oppressed. All these counties and all these municipalities are oppressed. We’re oppressed.”[facepalm][facepalm][facepalm][pileoshit]
(http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/13/Ferguson-Protests-Organized-By-Left-Wing-Groups)
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 07:32
Been following the protests from the beginning, particularly on twitter. The local (as in, live-there) leaders are almost all young black women, which I thought was interesting. Lots of out-of-town agitators too (the commies showed up, of course, because they show up wherever they can shit anything up.) Lots of anger on both sides - multiple reports from reporters and young people, also video, of police busting the mace out unprovoked. Its hard to take anything out of context here. The cops are pissed and on edge because early in they occasionally took gunfire from within the protests. The protesters are pissed because in response to any bad actions from people within the protest early in was to fire tear gas at the whole crowd. This resulted in a lot of people thinking that they were tear gassed just 'cause, since they didn't see anyone throw a bottle or rock at the line of riot cops. Maybe that's even true. Wouldn't take much for someone to make up a rock or bottle or whatever. Over on LF one of the Ferguson cops posted an AAR of the early protests/violence/looting which had some pretty questionable SOPs from the standpoint of keeping the lid on a pissed off community rather than provoking more.
Someone earlier asked if cops were disinclined to respond to calls, and there's an interesting story related to that. I'm sure everyone remembers when the stores were looted and the store owners came in and defended their property with guns, as is their right. Earlier that night I saw a bunch of tweets saying that the police were not responding to any calls that evening. This was just a day or two after the national news broke and it looked bad for the PD, and the PD in response backed off quite a bit (they brought that guy who took off the tactical vest and walked with the protesters, and things were kinda calm for the day.) Since word travels fast, as you might expect, when the cops weren't responding to calls the criminal element went pretty wild. Good on the store owners for stopping them. Again, lots of distrust and anger surrounding that as the looting was used as an excuse to crack down again.
I'm a police skeptic. I've seen a lot of story changes. First Wilson had a broken face, then he was bruised and swollen, then everyone is quiet about it and then nothing. The po-po immediately release a vid of Brown robbing a store, which the officer knew about, then didn't, then did (?), then isn't really relevant. At the very least this has been handled like a bunch of idiots. There's also lots of other stuff pissing people off - the gofundme campaign for Wilson raised $250,000 for him, when his legal bills are being paid for by the state, is viewed as an attaboy for killing a young black man (the comments in the gofundme campaign which are full of straight up racist bullshit don't help.) The fact that his name was withheld until his internet presence could be scrubbed and he could move out of state (on taxpayer dime,) or that he hasn't been arrested - which, if a bunch of eyewitnesses agree on something, even if the stories don't all match up, any non-police person would be arrested - is also aggravating.
Missouri is also a really corrupt state, and a lot of work has been done exposing that in recent weeks. Lots of really nasty democrats in the state who really don't give a shit. Hopefully the locals churn them out next time in the primaries.
speedysst
10-14-2014, 08:25
Here's my problem with your statement. Not only do eyewitness statements not match up, they contradict each other and the autopsy also conflicts with some statements. If you are involved in a shooting and you see the hatred and racist crap not only from a lot of people, but also the president of the United States and the attorney general, would you want your name printed in the papers? Would you want people trying to kill you in your own home? If the answer is yes, you are insane. Another thing, you seem to imply that the police encouraged looting so that they could "crack down." Yeah, I don't think so. If the cops act, they are "heavy handed" but if they don't, they are racists. Seriously, screw that. I would have quit the second the asshat chief walked with the protestors and my final words would have been "they're on their own and I hope they burn their own houses down just to spite themselves." Conduct a shooting investigation of this magnitude as brought on by the media, the White House and every race hustler that they could find and see if the story doesn't change on a daily basis. Hell, even CBS doctored the 911 call from Zimmerman so my guess is they don't know what happened so they speculate and make sure it fits the agenda.
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 08:28
They all seem to jive in that Brown was hands up trying to surrender when shot. That should be concerning to someone especially when you have people interviewed soon after the fact that had no contact with each other. There's also the video taken during the shooting of that construction worker shouting "He had his hands up!" when viewing the shooting. Seems kinda odd for that to all be coincidence.
I never said the police encouraged looting, I said they stopped responding to calls on a certain night.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 08:39
They all seem to jive in that Brown was hands up trying to surrender when shot. That should be concerning to someone especially when you have people interviewed soon after the fact that had no contact with each other. There's also the video taken during the shooting of that construction worker shouting "He had his hands up!" when viewing the shooting. Seems kinda odd for that to all be coincidence.
I never said the police encouraged looting, I said they stopped responding to calls on a certain night.
In 2 post you have omitted Saint Brown's cohort during the whole event, starting from the store. Seems he has changed his statement / story 2x and has since disappeared from Ferguson.
Myself, i'll wait for the grand jury's verdict. The Justice dept's 40 investigators are doing 1 of 2 things, holding back their report / findings till after the grand jury. OR like Zimmerman's In Depth Investigation to see if it was racially motivated. Because there is no truth to the Hands up Don't shoot theory.
NOW IF the cop (Wilson) did in fact shoot him without provocation. Let the LAW, not NBPP, Al Sharpton OR the Prez, decide his fate
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 08:45
In 2 post you have omitted Saint Brown's cohort during the whole event, starting from the store. Seems he has changed his statement / story 2x and has since disappeared from Ferguson.
Yes, I omitted the testimony that's probably not worth taking into consideration. Should I not do that in the future?
Myself, i'll wait for the grand jury's verdict. The Justice dept's 40 investigators are doing 1 of 2 things, holding back their report / findings till after the grand jury. OR like Zimmerman's In Depth Investigation to see if it was racially motivated. Because there is no truth to the Hands up Don't shoot theory.
NOW IF the cop (Wilson) did in fact shoot him without provocation. Let the LAW, not NBPP, Al Sharpton OR the Prez, decide his fate
Nothing happens in a vacuum. Missouri is corrupt, and the community at large has no confidence that the cop will serve time. Missour's UOF laws for police are also really, really lenient. They're calling for things like a reform of that UOF law and body cameras for police, both of which seems reasonable.
If a half dozen eyewitnesses unrelated and uncoordinated all say the same thing, there's something to look into. Brown was definitely not shot from behind, but that's certainly something onlookers can get wrong since getting shot isn't the bloodfest that the movies tell us. "Hands up, trying to surrender" seems altogether harder to misunderstand, especially under the circumstances.
I would bet you Wilson gets a pass from the GJ, simply from the regard juries tend to give to cops and the disinclination of the DA to press for a case.
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 08:46
Also, can the "Saint Brown" and further nonsense stop? The guy didn't have to have a glowing halo around his head to not deserve to be shot.
speedysst
10-14-2014, 09:15
Wasn't there another video where witnesses were heard saying "He kept coming at the cop" or something to that effect? Also, after 6 years working in the same city with the same type of people, why would Wilson wake up that day and decide that he was going to kill one of the residents. I have serious doubts that Wilson decided that day was the day to execute an "innocent kid." The whole "he shot him for no reason" is VERY suspect.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 09:24
Wasn't there another video where witnesses were heard saying "He kept coming at the cop" or something to that effect? Also, after 6 years working in the same city with the same type of people, why would Wilson wake up that day and decide that he was going to kill one of the residents. I have serious doubts that Wilson decided that day was the day to execute an "innocent kid." The whole "he shot him for no reason" is VERY suspect.
Please keep factual info out of this thread. [Beer] Yes there were reports of witness who supposedly saw that.
However the media and some people will have you believe there is only an innocent child gunned down, before he could accomplish so much for society. Completely ignoring another side to the story. One which if 1/2 as credible as those for the prosecution would exonerate officer Wilson. Something the left, progressives and white guilters will try their best to not happen.
Imagine if a white person law enforcement in particular actually used deadly force to stop a threat, by a person of color. Because the threat was real.
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 09:24
Wasn't there another video where witnesses were heard saying "He kept coming at the cop" or something to that effect? Also, after 6 years working in the same city with the same type of people, why would Wilson wake up that day and decide that he was going to kill one of the residents. I have serious doubts that Wilson decided that day was the day to execute an "innocent kid." The whole "he shot him for no reason" is VERY suspect.
There was a video with someone in the background probably saying that. We don't know if that was an eyewitness or if he was relaying speculation. If that guy would come forward at least to investigators that would certainly be useful.
I don't think Wilson just up and decided to murder someone that day. There was probably something that made him mad and he was pissed. People occasionally do things they would normally not do when mad.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 09:27
There was a video with someone in the background probably saying that. We don't know if that was an eyewitness or if he was relaying speculation. If that guy would come forward at least to investigators that would certainly be useful.
I don't think Wilson just up and decided to murder someone that day. There was probably something that made him mad and he was pissed. People occasionally do things they would normally not do when mad.
So, you've already found him guilty.
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 09:35
So, you've already found him guilty.
Sorry, I'm at work and looking at this thread between some work. I find it plausible as an alternative explanation to "he got up and decided to murder some random guy today." Maybe that's not it. Perhaps Brown ran at him and he killed in self defense.
I don't think that's going to be investigated thoroughly at all, though.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2014, 09:41
Sorry, I'm at work and looking at this thread between some work. I find it plausible as an alternative explanation to "he got up and decided to murder some random guy today." Maybe that's not it. Perhaps Brown ran at him and he killed in self defense.
I don't think that's going to be investigated thoroughly at all, though.
With the feds anal probing anyone who will talk to them, i doubt it. I am curious why DOJ sent 40 investigators. Isn't that overkill and were there as many for Zimmerman? Or does DOJ have an agenda?
RblDiver
10-14-2014, 09:59
Also, can the "Saint Brown" and further nonsense stop? The guy didn't have to have a glowing halo around his head to not deserve to be shot.
The "Saint Brown" moniker is more of a jab at people who were saying things like "gentle giant" when clearly he was not such a thing (see the robbery that happened shortly before the shooting).
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 10:05
With the feds anal probing anyone who will talk to them, i doubt it. I am curious why DOJ sent 40 investigators. Isn't that overkill and were there as many for Zimmerman? Or does DOJ have an agenda?
Police misconduct is a difficult thing. I can certainly understand people who think that the DOJ is on a witchhunt to please their masters in DC, though.
In my ideal world everyone would step back, a special investigator without extensive family ties to MO police (the Missouri DA does, and has declined to bring charges against cops brought to his attention his whole career - democrat, btw, if that matters) or without a perceived political axe to grind against the police, to present to a grand jury as full a story as they can muster. That would quiet both sides I would hope. Fat chance that'll happen though.
Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2014, 11:03
There was probably something that made him mad and he was pissed. People occasionally do things they would normally not do when mad.
That's almost as stupid as the "eyewitnesses" claiming that the cop was pulling Brown into the car window with one hand (as opposed to the alternative but more likely story that Brown was leaning into the car to beat the everlasting c--p out of the officer). While "small man syndrome" could certainly lead someone into stupidly provoking a confrontation with someone Brown's size, it's almost physically impossible to imagine someone of Wilson's size single-handedly pulling someone of Brown's size into a car window, particularly from the seated position.
BTW, someone beating me in the face and trying to take my weapon would probably make me pretty mad too. Having them charge at me would make me even madder, probably enough to take the shots.
While I leave open the possibility that Officer Wilson made a bad shoot, NOTHING in the storyline pushed forward by Brown's parents or the activists makes any sense. The storyline put out by Wilson's defenders thus far at least makes some credible sense.
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 11:15
I disagree. And that would be okay if there was something we could agree impartial going on in the context of the justice system. So here we are.
speedysst
10-14-2014, 11:28
I cant be sure but I cant imagine that Wilson had never been in a bad mood or angry or upset prior to this incident. Im pretty sure everyone has had bad days. This kind of homicidal anger issue would certainly have caught someone's attention long before this incident but Wilson had no prior complaints. To a point I agree about your idea of a special prosecutor that is COMPLETELY impartial and that includes politically.
There was a video with someone in the background probably saying that. We don't know if that was an eyewitness or if he was relaying speculation. If that guy would come forward at least to investigators that would certainly be useful.
I don't think Wilson just up and decided to murder someone that day. There was probably something that made him mad and he was pissed. People occasionally do things they would normally not do when mad.
People take sides if they care. Impartiality implies disinterest.
I really don't believe Missouri is any more corrupt than Illinois, New York, California, or Colorado for that matter.
The three (unprecedented number) autopsies have not yet been released and other than preliminary reports of marijuana, I am not aware of the results of the toxicology report for Brown.
Regardless of the results of the Grand Jury or any trial if the GJ indicts Wilson, there will always be people who disagree about what happened that afternoon between Brown and Wilson. Some of the people who disagree will cherry pick the information to support whatever agenda they happen to be pushing.
I don't live in Ferguson, MO, and have no agenda for or against anyone involved in the case. I will exercise patience and observe the outcome of the investigation and the resulting actions of the citizens and officials there and make up my own mind about who has credibility and who does not.
Till then [Pop]
Be safe.
BREATHER
10-14-2014, 12:24
AS far as I am concerned "they" want to start a race war. They being the media, the government, people that will make money off it. Why else would any of this shit be going on. Its bullshit and everyone knows it. When this shit hits the fan it won't be pretty and no one will win.
I myself am very tired of all this shit.... Even with all you tough guys here and cop bashers. AGAIN why isn't whitey burning Salt Lake City because a cop killed an unarmed 20 year old white man just after this Ferguson crap.....
Pancho Villa
10-14-2014, 12:45
I cant be sure but I cant imagine that Wilson had never been in a bad mood or angry or upset prior to this incident. Im pretty sure everyone has had bad days. This kind of homicidal anger issue would certainly have caught someone's attention long before this incident but Wilson had no prior complaints. To a point I agree about your idea of a special prosecutor that is COMPLETELY impartial and that includes politically.
Then we have found agreement on the most important issue, to me, and that makes me satisfied.
Ranger353
10-14-2014, 12:48
That's almost as stupid as the "eyewitnesses" claiming that the cop was pulling Brown into the car window with one hand (as opposed to the alternative but more likely story that Brown was leaning into the car to beat the everlasting c--p out of the officer). While "small man syndrome" could certainly lead someone into stupidly provoking a confrontation with someone Brown's size, it's almost physically impossible to imagine someone of Wilson's size single-handedly pulling someone of Brown's size into a car window, particularly from the seated position.
BTW, someone beating me in the face and trying to take my weapon would probably make me pretty mad too. Having them charge at me would make me even madder, probably enough to take the shots.
While I leave open the possibility that Officer Wilson made a bad shoot, NOTHING in the storyline pushed forward by Brown's parents or the activists makes any sense. The storyline put out by Wilson's defenders thus far at least makes some credible sense.
And the education of the American citizen continues: If you attempt to disarm a law enforcement officer, in any state of the union, that is a deadly force encounter. No gray area, no hesitation. If you fail in your attempt then you have two choices, get face down on the ground, hands and arms spread out like an angel or freeze in time and don't move, because the only recourse for the officer is to get you at gun point and defend themselves as best they can until help arrives. Mr. Brown obviously didn't know this and tried unsuccessfully to re-engage the officer, and was stopped with deadly force. No mystery, no story to tell here, no gray area. I hope the Grand Jury is educated by an expert in Use of Force and they make the right call.
So....are we going to get the verdict today, or are you guys just jerking us around?
Back to the video, at about the 14:57 mark I swear I see a guy brandishing a handgun... I could be wrong, considering it's not being filmed with a very quality camera.
Since Pancho has all the facts and has decided Wilson is guilty, we can all go home and not worry about.
The main thing that frightens me these days is the whole attitude that "a wrong has been committed against us, we don't care what the facts are, hang him!" Even if the investigation discovers that Wilson was 100% justified in this incident, the court of public opinion in that area (read: race baiters) are still thirsty for blood and will demand "justice." Every time I see one of these idiots demand "justice" I think of this:
50907
HoneyBadger
10-15-2014, 11:27
Back to the video, at about the 14:57 mark I swear I see a guy brandishing a handgun... I could be wrong, considering it's not being filmed with a very quality camera.
Since Pancho has all the facts and has decided Wilson is guilty, we can all go home and not worry about.
The main thing that frightens me these days is the whole attitude that "a wrong has been committed against us, we don't care what the facts are, hang him!" Even if the investigation discovers that Wilson was 100% justified in this incident, the court of public opinion in that area (read: race baiters) are still thirsty for blood and will demand "justice." Every time I see one of these idiots demand "justice" I think of this:
50907
Doesn't Justice = Entitlement? I want justice NOW so I'm going to burn my local community to the ground and demand that someone else fixes it!
[pileoshit]
Doesn't Justice = Entitlement? I want justice NOW so I'm going to burn my local community to the ground and demand that someone else fixes it!
[pileoshit]
Ah, a student of the Rodney King Riots in LA... [facepalm]
Exactly. You hit the nail directly on the head. They're not upset because a young black man was shot by the po-lice, they want an excuse to go out and beat people, break things, burn down their neighborhood, etc... oh and they don't want to be accountable for it, they want to blame it all on being massively upset, so they think they'll get away with it without any punishment. My question is, what happens when the Ferguson PD gets fed up and strikes?
kidicarus13
10-15-2014, 12:48
They're not upset because a young black man was shot by the po-lice, they want an excuse to go out and beat people, break things, burn down their neighborhood, etc... oh and they don't want to be accountable for it, they want to blame it all on being massively upset, so they think they'll get away with it without any punishment.
You forgot a big one, they want an excuse to STEAL and LOOT.
Back to the video, at about the 14:57 mark I swear I see a guy brandishing a handgun... I could be wrong, considering it's not being filmed with a very quality camera.
The folks over at http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/10/15/101514-mike-brown-shooting-open-discussion-thread/
have been covering Ferguson pretty thoroughly.
It's a camera, not a gun.
I thought the same thing the first time I watched.
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/888/4717358666.jpg
...There's also lots of other stuff pissing people off - the gofundme campaign for Wilson raised $250,000 for him, when his legal bills are being paid for by the state, is viewed as an attaboy for killing a young black man (the comments in the gofundme campaign which are full of straight up racist bullshit don't help.) The fact that his name was withheld until his internet presence could be scrubbed and he could move out of state (on taxpayer dime,) or that he hasn't been arrested - which, if a bunch of eyewitnesses agree on something, even if the stories don't all match up, any non-police person would be arrested - is also aggravating....
I donated as an attaboy for doing his job - putting down a worthless thug.
Also for his unimaginable future - where's he possibly going to live, work, raise his family?
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but there is far more racist BS coming from the Saint Brown side.
Eyewitnesses only matter if they're credible - these are not.
Prediction: Grand Jury will No Bill and St Louis will burn - along with Detroit, Oakland, and every other city that celebrates diversity.
My question is, what happens when the Ferguson PD gets fed up and strikes?
The county police will move in and patrol Ferguson. If they require additional assistance, other local municipal police and possibly the state police will supplement the patrols. When those resources are exhausted, the governor of Missouri will direct the Missouri National Guard to begin relieving local law enforcement of logistical functions like prisoner transports etc...
As to the image of the camera being held by a person at night. That is a good example why people shouldn't point things at the police. At night, during heightened tension, people tend to see what they expect to see, which may or may not be what the object actually is. These types of mistakes have and will continue to lead to tragic shootings.
Be safe.
kidicarus13
10-15-2014, 15:58
Prediction: Grand Jury will No Bill and St Louis will burn - along with Detroit, Oakland, and every other city that celebrates diversity.
I'd like to place $20 on that also.
kidicarus13
10-15-2014, 15:59
Double post
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 16:10
I'd like to place $20 on that also.
On which part, the no charges against wilson, or massive riots in areas of entitlement?
HoneyBadger
10-15-2014, 16:50
On which part, the no charges against wilson, or massive riots in areas of entitlement?
Yes.
Aloha_Shooter
10-15-2014, 20:00
Prediction: Grand Jury will No Bill and St Louis will burn - along with Detroit, Oakland, and every other city that celebrates diversity.
You forgot the part where the DOJ files charges against him for a civil rights violation that they can't prove but decide to drag him through court and convict him in the press.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2014, 21:15
You forgot the part where the DOJ files charges against him for a civil rights violation that they can't prove but decide to drag him through court and convict him in the press.
Drag it out for 3-4 months and the media will have forgotten the NOT GUILTY verdict, except as a blurb. However EVERYONE will know the charges as the media replays his arrest every 15 min news cycle.
kidicarus13
10-15-2014, 21:19
On which part, the no charges against wilson, or massive riots in areas of entitlement?
GJ No Bill + minor riots and/or protests in at least 2 of the 3 named cities.
Appear to be slow-rolling the no-bill outcome in order to let the thugs down easy:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/source-darren-wilson-says-michael-brown-kept-charging-at-him/article_d2cf8b20-c517-592b-96ba-77d8a5f46fef.html
Great-Kazoo
10-22-2014, 09:09
Appear to be slow-rolling the no-bill outcome in order to let the thugs down easy:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/source-darren-wilson-says-michael-brown-kept-charging-at-him/article_d2cf8b20-c517-592b-96ba-77d8a5f46fef.html
yes. The on going leaks from the GJ are confirmation. NO one especially federal investigators AND local LE's should be saying anything, especially grand jury happenings.
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