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Uberjager
10-16-2014, 01:34
Is their a list of how the candidates stand on gun control?

IIRC, Jeanne Nicholson voted for Bloomberg and supported all the "gun safety" measures, but my mind is fuzzy.

jslo
10-16-2014, 04:51
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/30120/jeanne-nicholson/37/guns

def90
10-16-2014, 08:24
As far as local Colorado legislature races go pretty much everyone with a D after their name voted for the new laws and the ones with a R did not. Not to difficult to figure out.

sent from a soup can and some string..

Great-Kazoo
10-16-2014, 09:20
As far as local Colorado legislature races go pretty much everyone with a D after their name voted for the new laws and the ones with a R did not. Not to difficult to figure out.

sent from a soup can and some string..

Gospel right there.

MED
10-16-2014, 09:28
Senator Lois Tochtrop (D) is very much pro 2A. There was one outspoken D in the House, but I can't remember his name.

MED
10-16-2014, 09:31
Jeanne Nicholson voted for Bloomberg and supported all the "gun safety" measures, but my mind is fuzzy.

Jeanne Nicholson is horrific on all issues (a true socialist)

roberth
10-16-2014, 10:44
As far as local Colorado legislature races go pretty much everyone with a D after their name voted for the new laws and the ones with a R did not. Not to difficult to figure out.

sent from a soup can and some string..


Gospel right there.

Yes indeed, very clear.

Great-Kazoo
10-16-2014, 10:53
Senator Lois Tochtrop (D) is very much pro 2A. There was one outspoken D in the House, but I can't remember his name.

IIRC she is term limited? However she is not on my weld cty ballot. I did say No to retention on judges EXCEPT Kopcow, he gets a Yes

centrarchidae
10-16-2014, 12:16
Senator Lois Tochtrop (D) is very much pro 2A. There was one outspoken D in the House, but I can't remember his name.
Tochtrop is being term-limited out this year. Not positive, but I think the other pro-gun dem in the senate (Cheri Jahn from Wheat Ridge) is also term-limited.

The one pro-gun dem in the house that I can name offhand is Vigil, from somewhere out east. I don't know much else about him.

The two running against for Tochtrop's seat, Solano(D) and Humenik(R) haven't taken positions that I know of. I've emailed Humenik, maybe a week ago, and have yet to hear back. Solano has told me to more or less sit down and be quiet, on an unrelated issue, with all of the half-competent smug arrogance that you'd expect from a dem school teacher in local government.

Bailey Guns
10-16-2014, 16:06
It doesn't matter if a democrat candidate is "pro-gun" or not. Don't be fooled by a vote favorable to us by a democrat. Oftentimes they vote that way knowing their caucus has enough votes to get whatever issue they want passed. It makes them look good and gets people talking about how "pro-gun" they are. Which is bullshit.

When push comes to shove you can bet a democrat will vote with their caucus...especially if they want party money at re-election time.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRO-GUN DEMOCRAT! PARTY TRUMPS PERSON!

Those two things can't be repeated often enough. Why anyone on this forum would even consider voting for ANY democrat candidate just baffles me...especially after what they did to gun owners and all citizens of Colorado last year.

sellersm
10-16-2014, 16:12
It doesn't matter if a democrat candidate is "pro-gun" or not. Don't be fooled by a vote favorable to us by a democrat. Oftentimes they vote that way knowing their caucus has enough votes to get whatever issue they want passed. It makes them look good and gets people talking about how "pro-gun" they are. Which is bullshit.

When push comes to shove you can bet a democrat will vote with their caucus...especially if they want party money at re-election time.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRO-GUN DEMOCRAT! PARTY TRUMPS PERSON!

Those two things can't be repeated often enough. Why anyone on this forum would even consider voting for ANY democrat candidate just baffles me...especially after what they did to gun owners and all citizens of Colorado last year.

^This! Well said...

DaBull
10-16-2014, 19:58
A pro-gun democrat need not vote for an anti-gun bill to do harm to the 2A. The mere fact that he or she has a "D" after their name means they are contributing to an anti-gun democrat party majority. If that majority is obtained, then that anti-gun party now controls what bills are debated and put up for vote. In fact, that pro-gun democrat can then vote against the anti-gun bill they helped put on the agenda, and then get re-elected by a conservative constituency since they have shown what a "moderate" they are for having bucked the anti-gun looney lefties. This gives the democrat majority yet another shot at an anti-gun law. So, pick your pro-gun democrat over a moderate republican carefully.

tim-adams
10-16-2014, 21:53
Senator Lois Tochtrop (D) is very much pro 2A. There was one outspoken D in the House, but I can't remember his name.

still voted with Higgenblooper...
needs to go..

tim-adams
10-16-2014, 21:55
^This! Well said...

to true if you do not tow the line, then no money for reelection from uncle NDC.. it sucks but its the nature of our broken political system

Aloha_Shooter
10-16-2014, 22:20
Realize too that both parties (but more so the Dems) play these games with letting candidates in tough districts "go against the party" in a handful of votes where their dissent is meaningless ("we have more than enough to pass this so go ahead and vote against it so you can say you were pro-gun"). I wouldn't trust any of the Dems unless they went against Hickenlooper, Morse, and Bloomberg on tough votes (none of them did).

SenHolbert
10-21-2014, 11:18
With intent to help fellow gunnies advocate more effectively and specifically not out of some personal hang up on titles...

In US politics, the word "Congress" refers to the federal legislature. The US Senate and the US House are "Congress." There are 535 voting members of Congress, 100 US Senators and 435 US Representatives. Representatives usually prefer the title "Congressman" or "Congresswoman," because it groups them with the 100 members of the more exclusive, upper chamber. US Senators generally prefer the title "Senator" because it is more exclusive.

In Colorado, the state legislature is called the "General Assembly." There are 100 members of the Colorado General Assembly, 35 state Senators and 65 state Representatives. In some states, the title of "Assemblyman" or Assemblywoman" is used. I don't know why, but that title is rarely used in Colorado. In some states, the lower chamber is referred to as the "House of Delegates" or "Hall of Delegates." In Colorado, "Representative" or "Senator" are generally used.

Hick isn't the President of Colorado, Handcock isn't the Governor of Denver, and Obama isn't the Mayor of the United States. Those three Executive Branch titles refer to the top elected executive at the respective level of government, but they aren't inter-changable. The same applies to Congress, General Assembly, and City Council.

Please, call me "Chris" I work so hard at just being me.

roberth
10-21-2014, 11:29
Thank you Chris and thanks for being here on this board.

Great-Kazoo
10-21-2014, 13:38
With intent to help fellow gunnies advocate more effectively and specifically not out of some personal hang up on titles...

In US politics, the word "Congress" refers to the federal legislature. The US Senate and the US House are "Congress." There are 535 voting members of Congress, 100 US Senators and 435 US Representatives. Representatives usually prefer the title "Congressman" or "Congresswoman," because it groups them with the 100 members of the more exclusive, upper chamber. US Senators generally prefer the title "Senator" because it is more exclusive.

In Colorado, the state legislature is called the "General Assembly." There are 100 members of the Colorado General Assembly, 35 state Senators and 65 state Representatives. In some states, the title of "Assemblyman" or Assemblywoman" is used. I don't know why, but that title is rarely used in Colorado. In some states, the lower chamber is referred to as the "House of Delegates" or "Hall of Delegates." In Colorado, "Representative" or "Senator" are generally used.

Hick isn't the President of Colorado, Handcock isn't the Governor of Denver, and Obama isn't the Mayor of the United States. Those three Executive Branch titles refer to the top elected executive at the respective level of government, but they aren't inter-changable. The same applies to Congress, General Assembly, and City Council.

Please, call me "Chris" I work so hard at just being me.

Nice breakdown for the uninformed. NOW take this state back , I know how most of us voted.

cstone
10-21-2014, 16:12
Please, call me "Chris" I work so hard at just being me.

Thanks. Now I have Sammy Davis Jr. singing I Gotta Be Me in my head. [Flower]


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