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XJ
10-19-2014, 07:31
Was just caffeinating through my weekly read of the CSPD activity http://www.springsgov.com/units/police/policeblotter.asp and got to wondering. In this example the magazines could be govt property, but that isn't what I'm asking about. For regular folks who are simply the victim of theft and not in any sort of legal situation for possession, would the magazines simply be returned to the owner just like a wallet, tools, etc, or does Hickenlooper get to keep them?

Side note, I had no idea that bump keys existed for vehicles. Thought those were only for residential locks. Learned something new already today!




On 10/16/14 at approximately 0438 hours, Sand Creek Shift 3 officers were dispatched to the alley just north of 714 Yuma St regarding parties using drugs in their vehicles. Upon arrival, Officer A. Carey observed two vehicles backing up in the alley towards Yuma St. Officer Carey pulled in behind the vehicles when the vehicles drove forward, stopping at the dead end. Officer Carey contacted a black Nissan Rogue that was driven by Kaitlin Bunje. Bunje had a warrant for her arrest and upon her arrest was found to be in possession of schedule I narcotics. Bunje also had bump keys on her which are commonly used to steal vehicles. Upon searching the vehicle officers located military equipment to include back packs, a helmet, ammo carrier and AR-15 magazines. The vehicle was also full of various power tools along with welding torches and tanks. A men’s wallet and ID were found in the front passenger area along with several other ID cards and debit / credit cards. Officer’s located court paperwork for Dillon Scott Johnson who currently has 4 felony warrants and is a known MVT and BMV suspect. Due to the large amount of items that could be linked to BMV’s and burglaries the MVT task force was notified who responded to assist with the investigation. Officer McEvoy contacted the owner of the wallet who stated his wallet was in his truck which the owner had just discovered was stolen. The stolen truck was located in front of the Nissan and was returned to the owner. Bunje was charged with possession of schedule I, 1st degree criminal trespassing, possession of burglary tools and identity theft. Investigation is ongoing

68Charger
10-19-2014, 07:44
One thing I noticed... Suspect was NOT charged under the new magazine law... (At least it wasn't listed).

Great-Kazoo
10-19-2014, 07:57
One thing I noticed... Suspect was NOT charged under the new magazine law... (At least it wasn't listed).

That's cause they were in possession of stolen items IIRC MVT is Motor Vehicle Theft / MVT task force. Sounds like they were just another couple who were doing burglaries in the hood. Have to be real high or stupid being in possession of thar much crap.

68Charger
10-19-2014, 08:51
That's cause they were in possession of stolen items IIRC MVT is Motor Vehicle Theft / MVT task force. Sounds like they were just another couple who were doing burglaries in the hood. Have to be real high or stupid being in possession of thar much crap.
But among those items were dangerous AR-15 magazine clips!!!!!!! Shouldn't they also be held accountable for the lawless possession of such dangerous items?[Sarcasm2]

BlasterBob
10-19-2014, 09:17
I guess I am really living in the past. Never heard of "bump keys". Apparently used to bypass the vehicle ignition so I know the function but what exactly are they?

Dave
10-19-2014, 09:34
I guess I am really living in the past. Never heard of "bump keys". Apparently used to bypass the vehicle ignition so I know the function but what exactly are they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_bumping

SideShow Bob
10-19-2014, 09:35
I guess I am really living in the past. Never heard of "bump keys". Apparently used to bypass the vehicle ignition so I know the function but what exactly are they?

Here ya go, this this technique has been in existence since shortly after the invention of the pin & tumbler lock.
Edit: Dave has faster fingers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=131j0htYIoU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Danimal
10-19-2014, 09:37
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00tec
10-19-2014, 09:45
I'm guessing they "mislabeled" the keys. Bump keys won't work on automotive wafer style locks. You have to use jiggler keys.

I guess I am really living in the past. Never heard of "bump keys". Apparently used to bypass the vehicle ignition so I know the function but what exactly are they?
Bump keys are pretty cool. They're basically a key cut to the deepest factory cuts along it's entire length. Using a bump key leaves almost no evidence the lock was tampered with, usually just a small smudge near the keyway. I got pretty good at the schlage locks, but any lock can be done with practice. Insert key, put a little tension on it, and tap it with something. Your door opens.
They're easily defeated, but most locks are vulnerable to them. If you have Schlage locks on your house/shop/garage, I could bump them in probably 2 minutes (and I'm WAY out of practice). I could then lock them back and you'd never know someone else was there until you noticed your TV missing...

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