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Outside Seattle. Reports are 6 shot 2 airlifted and shooter "ate" his gun.
Another liberal hot spot. Imagine that. I hope all innocents are ok.
ThunderSquirrel
10-24-2014, 12:53
Local coverage says 3 dead. Not confirmed, no sources. Let's just report stuff!
Hope the kiddos are ok. Coward.
Here we go again... I honestly believe this crap would stop yesterday if we just allowed teachers who are trained, prepared, and willing to carry at school. We trust them with our kids day in and day out, yet they fail to keep them safe when the options are available but their hands are tied by a bunch of liberal anti-gun policies. The average high school (for 1500 students) is roughly 250,000 square feet... most schools employ one school resource officer. That's quite a bit of ground to cover in a situation that usually lasts 1-3min. Thoughts and prayers for the community.
Doesn't WA state have a large referendum on gun control coming up that Gates and Bloomberg have poured millions into getting passed?
Singlestack
10-24-2014, 13:05
Police confirmed just the 1 shooter. Nothing else about the shooter is official right now.
Doesn't WA state have a large referendum on gun control coming up that Gates and Bloomberg have poured millions into getting passed?
Yup, UBC being pushed.
My oldest son and DIL live in Tacoma and there's been much heated discussion between him (very pro 2A, both CCW holders) and some of his "car" buds (some liberal LIV's). I posted a multitude of facts and corrections and might have gotten a little abrasive by calling one of them dumber than a bag of hammers.
Yup, UBC being pushed.
My oldest son and DIL live in Tacoma and there's been much heated discussion between him (very pro 2A, both CCW holders) and some of his "car" buds (some liberal LIV's). I posted a multitude of facts and corrections and might have gotten a little abrasive by calling one of them dumber than a bag of hammers.
I've called people retarded, but have since stopped because it's not fair to Down Syndrome folks.
I dont think that was fair to the bag of hammers either. At least hammers are useful.
3 commonalities and factors just mentioned which included the "so easily availability of guns" but no mention of GUN FREE ZONES!
Great-Kazoo
10-24-2014, 14:14
Police confirmed just the 1 shooter. Nothing else about the shooter is official right now.
Comments after a story from some folks who lived and went to school there don't sing high praise of the school or students.
October surprise for Washington state. Am sure Bloomberg is jumping for joy over these graves. Wonder how long till these situation ends up in the politics up there? Hell I am sure it is already happening from the astro-turf activists. "If only they had background checks, this kid couldn't have got ahold of the gun, whaaaa!"
ZERO THEORY
10-24-2014, 15:10
http://i.imgur.com/2dkznYf.gif
Makes no sense.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/us/washington-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
(CNN) -- [Breaking news update, posted at 4:39 p.m. ET]
The gunman who opened fire Friday at Washington state's Marysville-Pilchuck High School has been identified as freshman Jaylen Fryberg, fellow students, including eyewitnesses, told CNN.
Fryberg was announced as the high school's freshman homecoming king on October 17, according to YouTube video of the ceremony and accounts from students to CNN.
Fryberg's multiple social media accounts depict him frequently hunting, and using rifles. His social media accounts say he was a Native American and a member of the Tulalip tribe.
[Breaking news update, posted at 4:23 p.m. ET]
A student at Washington state's Marysville-Pilchuck High School walked into the school's cafeteria, went up to a table with students, "came up from behind ... and fired about six bullets into the backs of them," witness Jordan Luton told CNN. "They were his friends, so it wasn't just random," Luton said.
OctopusHighball
10-24-2014, 16:33
Targeted killing by a kid with a beef who was being bullied.
Yet somehow, guns are the problem.
I cannot roll my eyes loudly enough.
This is when the Tin Foil Hats show up.
I agree with it sounding very strange. Will wait for more facts.
<tin foil hat>
Doesn't anyone find it strange that states with gun control issues up for vote are suddenly up in the rotation for a "mass shooting?"
</tin foil hat>
Great-Kazoo
10-24-2014, 18:28
<tin foil hat>
Doesn't anyone find it strange that states with gun control issues up for vote are suddenly up in the rotation for a "mass shooting?"
</tin foil hat>
Not at all. it's SOP 1 maybe 2 weeks before IMPORTANT, COMMON SENSE Gun Laws are up for vote. BANG, BANG. The person (in CA) of ethnic background who killed the deputy and wounded 2-3 others during his time of anger, will all no doubt linked to ease of access to firearms. Instead of
1- felons possessing stolen or straw purchase
2 - people with mental / psychological issues, EVERYONE Knew about but brushed off as another episode of instability.
Nah. He was "bullied". It fits the narrative.
Washington shooting: police investigate love triangle claims (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/washington-shooting-police-investigate-love-triangle-claims/ar-BBb6vjA)
Some reports said he had been suspended from the football team, possibly because of a fight with a fellow player, and had been bullied, possibly over his Native American heritage. Marysville-Pilchuck has a number of students from the Tulalip tribe.
stoner01
10-25-2014, 08:56
Why can't they just kill themselves first
HoneyBadger
10-25-2014, 08:57
Looks like he was half stalking a girl and pissed because she wouldn't date him.
More typical than it looked at first glance. Most sociopaths are incredibly controlling of relationships (or potential relationships), insane levels of jealousy.
Looks like he had the "if I can't have her nobody will". Don't have ID yet on the victims, but I'll hazard a guess and say he probably shot the girl and the circle of friends around the girl, how dare they flirt with her even though she has no interest in dating the whackjob. One socio I know went so far as to stalk her ex-boyfriend on a daily basis for more than four months after they broke up. Then took it to level 2 by stalking every woman she ever saw him talk to - like a gas station attendant for two months. That's the level of insanity your dealing with.
They are usually highly extroverted, popular, and can fake deeper emotion but do not feel any. They are the type of people that others say "He seemed like a nice kid". Even while the "kid" is doing things like shoving firecrackers in animals while nobody is looking....
Sociopathy is incurable and counseling makes it worse. Its unfortunate it can't be removed from the gene pool. We are sitting at between 1/16 and 1/25 individuals - if you learn to recognize them well you can save your family (kids) a lot of grief.
It's been a while since I've pulled out my DSM-IV, but that sounds pretty plausible.
Great-Kazoo
10-25-2014, 12:17
Luckily he used a hand gun, not that it matters to people with an agenda. Up side, a ban on 40 S&W ;)
Sheriff: School shooter invited victims to lunch (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sheriff-school-shooter-invited-victims-to-lunch/ar-BBbrxWS)
MARYSVILLE, Wash. — A popular student responsible for a shooting at a Washington state high school invited his victims to lunch by text message, then shot them at their table, investigators said Monday.
Snohomish County Sheriff Ty Trenary said at a news conference that the five students were at a lunch table Friday when they were shot by 15-year-old Jaylen Fryberg. Fryberg then committed suicide.
Detectives are digging through reams of text messages, phone and social media records as part of an investigation that could take months, Trenary said.
"The question everybody wants is, 'Why?'" Trenary said. "I don't know that the 'why' is something we can provide."
Not sure why this teacher's intervention is not being publicized more.
http://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/megan-silberberger.jpg
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/10/25/marysville-hero-teacher-megan-silberberger-stopped-school-murderer/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2014-10-28&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter#
Marysville, WA – Megan Silberberger is a first-year social studies teacher at Marysville-Pilchuck High School, which was recently the site of murder and assault committed by a student on other students. And she was very likely the reason why the misguided youth didn’t hurt more people.
The 14-year-old killer, whose name I refuse to publicize, began shooting after an argument. Silberberger reportedly rushed to the scene and confronted the armed boy.
A student told reporters of Silberberger, “She heard the gunshots first and she came in running through the door, right next to it.”
He added, “I believe she’s actually the real hero. She’s the one that intercepted him with the gun. He tried either reloading or tried aiming at her. She tried moving his hand away and he tried shooting and shot himself in the neck.”
In the end, the criminal and a teenage girl were dead. Four other students – two of whom were cousins of the perpetrator – were injured. All victims were minors (younger than age 18).
Thanks to Megan Silberberger for preventing more carnage, and I’m grateful that she wasn’t shot herself. She easily could have been. If only someone else on the scene had been armed, he may have been stopped even faster.
Why do people think it’s sane to put children in an environment where only criminals are armed? It’s long past time to get rid of “gun free zones,” especially in our schools.
Great-Kazoo
10-28-2014, 09:25
From what I understand, it has been confirmed the teacher never actually made any contact with the student, and the self inflicted GSW was not "accidental".
You are correct. She was moving towards him when he ate his muzzle.
From what I understand, it has been confirmed the teacher never actually made any contact with the student, and the self inflicted GSW was not "accidental".
You are correct. She was moving towards him when he ate his muzzle.
Source?
When I Google her name, several pages of news links tell the same story of her intervening and him shooting himself in the neck.
Source?
When I Google her name, several pages of news links tell the same story of her intervening and him shooting himself in the neck.
That's because people read a story like this and parrot it w/o confirming kind of like was done here until it becomes 'fact' on the internet because in most settings it's rarely questioned. Of all the shortcomings of Facebook this probably bothers me the most. Regularly little gems like this just start being shared and re-posted and before you know it everyone is buying it because not everyone has a friend like me that takes a few seconds to question these sort of things. I know most of you old curmudgeons don't like Facebook but it's what you make of it and is a great way to help get our message out to social media which is where we're taking a bath currently in the court of public opinion because few of us are on it to speak the truth. I digress. These stories usually start with something like 'Not sure why this isn't being talked about more' or 'Facebook won't let this story get out' or 'most of my friends won't share this story' so they're pretty easy to spot.
That's because people read a story like this and parrot it w/o confirming kind of like was done here until it becomes 'fact' on the internet because in most settings it's rarely questioned. Of all the shortcomings of Facebook this probably bothers me the most. Regularly little gems like this just start being shared and re-posted and before you know it everyone is buying it because not everyone has a friend like me that takes a few seconds to question these sort of things. I know most of you old curmudgeons don't like Facebook but it's what you make of it and is a great way to help get our message out to social media which is where we're taking a bath currently in the court of public opinion because few of us are on it to speak the truth. I digress. These stories usually start with something like 'Not sure why this isn't being talked about more' or 'Facebook won't let this story get out' or 'most of my friends won't share this story' so they're pretty easy to spot.
I have an open mind - no dog in the fight - just have not heard otherwise.
Just looking for a source that I can read myself.
Aloha_Shooter
10-28-2014, 11:44
You are correct. She was moving towards him when he ate his muzzle.
To some extent, that takes even more guts as she has to cross the field of fire. Not to take anything away from him but I'd have felt better about the situation Kevin Vickers had in Ottawa where he and the gunman were on opposite sides of the pillar because you have a chance to move in and hit before he can bring his firearm to bear. Gutsy gal.
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