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Heads up folks, tonight at 10PM: http://blogs.denverpost.com/ostrow/2014/10/30/guy-walks-gun-shop-brian-maass-story/20312/
wctriumph
10-30-2014, 12:12
So, I guess that all they have proved is that the law doesn't work, will never work and should not have been passed in the first place. And it was why three democrat legislators lost their jobs and several Coloradoans lost their jobs and the state lost millions in tax revenue.
Morons.
TEA
III
Look at Cali, people will find the way around ridiculous laws. Just give up because you stupid fucks are too ignorant to understand it all and will never succeed.
Rooskibar03
10-30-2014, 12:15
You never know who you are talking to. Mind your P's & Q's.
wctriumph
10-30-2014, 12:17
You never know who you are talking to. Mind your P's & Q's.
What do pints and quarts have to do with 30 round magazine clip ammo thingys?
[Beer]
trlcavscout
10-30-2014, 12:20
Yes they are still available everywhere.
sellersm
10-30-2014, 12:28
You never know who you are talking to. Mind your P's & Q's.
What happened to R, S & T?!?!? [Coffee] Seriously, this is truth...
Zundfolge
10-30-2014, 13:12
Wish they'd put 1/100th as much effort in uncovering Democrat voter fraud that they do trying to spin a gun shop using a loophole but still complying with the letter of the law into something evil.
Fuckin' hacks, every one of them.
mtnrider
10-30-2014, 13:16
So, I guess that all they have proved is that the law doesn't work, will never work and should not have been passed in the first place. And it was why three democrat legislators lost their jobs and several Coloradoans lost their jobs and the state lost millions in tax revenue.
Morons.
TEA
III
Or they will claim ALL gun owners are criminals.
As far as lost revenue, they have pot now and don't care.
This just in, our undercover investigative reporter has discovered a place in Colorado where water is WET!
Stay tuned for this Channel 4 exclusive!
Zundfolge
10-30-2014, 13:26
Of course i guess there is some benefit to them reminding the people of the existence of this HORRIBLY unpopular law just days before the election.
Of course i guess there is some benefit to them reminding the people of the existence of this HORRIBLY unpopular law just days before the election.
Of course there is, trying to drum up support for a bunch of addle-brained communists who think that the state grants men their rights.
He's lucky a mass shooting didn't occur being so close to that magazine and all.....
Ranger353
10-30-2014, 14:24
He's lucky a mass shooting didn't occur being so close to that magazine and all.....
Yup, those high capacity magazines have been known to just go off and kill people, {snap} just like that.
mackbamf
10-30-2014, 14:38
Maybe if we are lucky it will just remind everyone watching how stupid and useless the law really is. Just maybe kick some people in the ass to get out and vote the dems out...
ETA for groups of protestors outside that shop?
HoneyBadger
10-30-2014, 14:53
The comments on the article are actually quite good. It appears that a few of our own have left some intelligent comments. [Beer]
Tinelement
10-30-2014, 14:57
This just in, our undercover investigative reporter has discovered a place in Colorado where water is WET!
Stay tuned for this Channel 4 exclusive!
Right, or if you press your gas pedal to the floor you may actually break a speed limit!
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2014, 15:10
They should have had an illegal alien buying an illegal magazine, Oh the Irony.
EvilRhino
10-30-2014, 15:13
Did they notify the Sheriff? [ROFL2]
They should have had an illegal alien buying an illegal magazine, Oh the Irony.
They wouldn't of run the story if an illegal alien purchased an "illegal" magazine. The government only wants to promote how f'ing great it is to have all these illegal immigrants here and how they do no wrong. How dare we paint illegal immigrants as criminals! [facepalm]
Cost of $25? Sounds like they got ripped off.
SuperiorDG
10-30-2014, 15:40
Cost of $25? Sounds like they got ripped off.
Well it was bought on the black market.
Well it was bought on the black market.
Oh I guess that is true.
Kraven251
10-30-2014, 15:47
Or they could have just driven north of Denver and bought one off the shelf fully assembled. Shock, Awe, and a big bag of dicks.
clodhopper
10-30-2014, 15:55
Or they could have just driven north of Denver and bought one off the shelf fully assembled. Shock, Awe, and a big bag of dicks.
North of Denver is just wasteland. No one actually lives there. I know cause I heard it on the Denver TV news.
SideShow Bob
10-30-2014, 15:56
Well it was bought on the black market.
That is just RASIST !
So, now the Ch. 4 reporter admits purchasing and is in possession of an illegal magazine after 7/1/13, and with video as proof. Will anyone prosecute the reporter ?
clodhopper
10-30-2014, 16:02
So, now the Ch. 4 reporter admits purchasing and is in possession of an illegal magazine after 7/1/13, and with video as proof. Will anyone prosecute the reporter ?
You so funny! Ha ha!
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2014, 16:18
North of Denver is just wasteland. No one actually lives there. I know cause I heard it on the Denver TV news.
Hey you, some of us jes git indoor plumbing enstalled. Can't wait for the linemen to give us the magical light in a glass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/knitepoet/FUNNY/Give-A-damn.gif
sabot_round
10-30-2014, 17:49
Is there anything else expected from the liberal[pileoshit] media?[beatdeadhorse]
Undocumented magazine!
Lets be consistent. [Flower]
Did they point out that once all of those thirty round magazines get shot up that there won't be any more around?
Maybe they should do a piece to see if they could buy some meth somewhere. That's still illegal here, isn't it?
North of Denver is just wasteland. No one actually lives there. I know cause I heard it on the Denver TV news.
Seems there's a lot I didn't know about Colorado, even if I have lived here my entire life... According to Bloomberg the areas around CO Spgs and Pueblo don't have roads, Hickenlooper said that a lot of people in the rural areas are backwards... Now Channel 4 is pointing out holes in the new magazine law. You learn something new every day... [Sarcasm2]
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2014, 18:26
ANYONE need a quote on used 30 rd mag value ?
stoner01
10-30-2014, 18:31
What time was it at? Missed it so I'll need to rewarxh it. Needing a good laugh and wanting to confirm the shop
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2014, 18:37
Heads up folks, tonight at 10PM: http://blogs.denverpost.com/ostrow/2014/10/30/guy-walks-gun-shop-brian-maass-story/20312/
What time was it at? Missed it so I'll need to rewarxh it. Needing a good laugh and wanting to confirm the shop
Did anyone take notes?
stoner01
10-30-2014, 19:02
Reading comprehension fail on my part
screagle2
10-30-2014, 19:57
Wish they'd put 1/100th as much effort in uncovering Democrat voter fraud that they do trying to spin a gun shop using a loophole but still complying with the letter of the law into something evil.
Fuckin' hacks, every one of them.
YES ^. Double YES
Did they notify the Sheriff? [ROFL2]
lol. Truly a display of why making illegal, things that people demand to have, is stupid and beyond reason.
HoneyBadger
10-30-2014, 21:26
lol ... beyond reason.
Most accurate thing said so far in this thread.
GilpinGuy
10-30-2014, 22:07
From the link and the TV story:
“We found several shops selling a 30-round magazine…but the magazine has a slight modification, so it only holds 15 round and complies with the letter of the law. But the clerk makes it clear that modification could be removed, transforming the magazine back to 30 rounds.”
Sooooo, what's the problem again? I see nothing illegal according to the letter of the law (aka: THE FUCKING LAW).
BPTactical
10-30-2014, 22:24
Well that was speeshul.......
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-30-2014, 22:31
I wonder if there was anyone speeding on the road today? Or any drunk drivers? Or any over doses from drugs? Or any middle school - high school aged kids caught selling heroin?
Doubt it, this was just a filler piece because there's nothing more news worthy.
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2014, 22:40
From the link and the TV story:
“We found several shops selling a 30-round magazine…but the magazine has a slight modification, so it only holds 15 round and complies with the letter of the law. But the clerk makes it clear that modification could be removed, transforming the magazine back to 30 rounds.”
Sooooo, what's the problem again? I see nothing illegal according to the letter of the law (aka: THE FUCKING LAW).
They drove to cheyo showing how easy it was to buy magazines from out of state.
Wonder when they will drive from cheyo to ft collins OR denver, showing how easy it is to buy weed . Oh wait weed's legal here, SO's 30 RD MAGS IN WYOMING, DICKHEAD.
GilpinGuy
10-30-2014, 23:04
They drove to cheyo showing how easy it was to buy magazines from out of state.
Wonder when they will drive from cheyo to ft collins OR denver, showing how easy it is to buy weed . Oh wait weed's legal here, SO's 30 RD MAGS IN WYOMING, DICKHEAD.
Nah, they'll show how despicable it is for CO folks driving out of state to be profiled for coming from a pro-pot state instead.
Article says : "“It took the clerk 24 seconds to insert the spring in the magazine and we instantly had an illegal, 30-round magazine. Total cost, 25 bucks.”
Sounds like the clerk is the one that built the illegal mag which would then be against the law right? Looks like the Clerk sold an illegal mag and the reporter bought the illegal mag. Both should be taken off to jail or whatever the punishment is. What is the punishment for this anyway?
GilpinGuy
10-30-2014, 23:44
Article says : "“It took the clerk 24 seconds to insert the spring in the magazine and we instantly had an illegal, 30-round magazine. Total cost, 25 bucks.”
Sounds like the clerk is the one that built the illegal mag which would then be against the law right? Looks like the Clerk sold an illegal mag and the reporter bought the illegal mag. Both should be taken off to jail or whatever the punishment is. What is the punishment for this anyway?
I don't think that ANYONE has been prosecuted for this egregious atrocity yet, so who knows. Has 1 person been prosecuted for this?
I don't think that ANYONE has been prosecuted for this egregious atrocity yet, so who knows. Has 1 person been prosecuted for this?
I heard one guy was, as an additional charge. He did really bad other stuff. So far no one who was otherwise law abiding.
clublights
10-31-2014, 00:41
If any one wants see the video it's currently on cbs4's home page
http://denver.cbslocal.com
or here it is direct
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/10/30/many-circumventing-colorado-high-capacity-magazine-ban/
Great-Kazoo
10-31-2014, 01:33
I don't think that ANYONE has been prosecuted for this egregious atrocity yet, so who knows. Has 1 person been prosecuted for this?
Mass said he was turning the magazine's over to LE.
That actually looked like a nice gun shop. They said somewhere in southern Colorado from what I remember.
Bailey Guns
10-31-2014, 05:34
Useful idiots of the left. Tom Mauser is just useless.
Wish Cook would have used "standard" capacity instead of "high" capacity
Wow. They went to the worst gun store in Cheyenne.
buffalobo
10-31-2014, 07:26
Wish Cook would have used "standard" capacity instead of "high" capacity
Me too. "High capacity magazine" referring to 30 rnd AR mags is my pet peeve.
Story is more lame ass media propaganda. Giving air time to Tom Mauser pisses me off.
ZERO THEORY
10-31-2014, 07:27
What is the punishment for this anyway?
I'd have to go back and read the statute, but I don't think it's anything more than a summons to tack onto more serious crimes.
Great-Kazoo
10-31-2014, 07:31
I'd have to go back and read the statute, but I don't think it's anything more than a summons to tack onto more serious crimes.
So. This is where we as gun owners come in. Everyone e-mail Brian Maas inquiring what his local LE said, after turning over the greater than 15 round magazines.
Tom Mauser is disgusted? How about all the voters that are disgusted by being ignored in Denver last year? How about being disgusted with a law that all but one Colorado Sheriff filed suit with the state over? F*** Channel 4 with this sensationalist story about a law that shouldn't ever have been allowed to pass.
sneakerd
10-31-2014, 08:11
I wonder why they specifically went OUT of the Denver Metro area to do the story when I know of several very popular Denver Metro stores that do the exact same thing. I know of at least one Denver metro store that doesn't even bother to disassemble them. Did the CBS Denver people decide not to "shit where they eat"? Perhaps trying not to mobilize Denver area gun owners? They certainly would have visited local stores first to prepare the story, but decided to do the story using out of area stores. I think that is interesting all by itself.
It seams like he was just proving the Sheriffs point along with every gun owner that testified; the law is unenforceable and it doesn't work.
HoneyBadger
10-31-2014, 09:13
It seams like he was just proving the Sheriffs point along with every gun owner that testified; the law is unenforceable and it doesn't work.
Yeah, besides the fact that it is intellectually dishonest and illogical.
So, I guess that all they have proved is that the law doesn't work, will never work and should not have been passed in the first place. And it was why three democrat legislators lost their jobs and several Coloradoans lost their jobs and the state lost millions in tax revenue.
Morons.
TEA
III
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Mass said he was turning the magazine's over to LE.
That should make it easy to charge him. We really should press thus and make an example of him and this stupid law.
Mass said he was turning the magazine's over to LE.
HE ALREADY BROKE THE LAW, BROADCAST A RECORD OF IT, AND SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH THE CRIME HE COMMITTED AND PROSECUTED FOR IT.
There's nothing in the law that exempts Journalists.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-31-2014, 11:47
HE ALREADY BROKE THE LAW, BROADCAST A RECORD OF IT, AND SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH THE CRIME HE COMMITTED AND PROSECUTED FOR IT.
There's nothing in the law that exempts Journalists.
Haven't you ever heard of the David Gregory exemption?
Great-Kazoo
10-31-2014, 12:09
That should make it easy to charge him. We really should press thus and make an example of him and this stupid law.
HE ALREADY BROKE THE LAW, BROADCAST A RECORD OF IT, AND SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH THE CRIME HE COMMITTED AND PROSECUTED FOR IT.
There's nothing in the law that exempts Journalists.
That's why i want to know what the next step in his expose is. Once we / i know that. A push to have him prosecuted might be interesting.
That should make it easy to charge him. We really should press thus and make an example of him and this stupid law.
That's why i want to know what the next step in his expose is. Once we / i know that. A push to have him prosecuted might be interesting.
Sounds like a job for a competing station: 9News has "9 wants to know" where they investigate stuff like this.
http://archive.9news.com/news/investigative/blow_the_whistle/
I'm on my phone, anyone on a PC want to get the ball rollin'?
Mauser needs to just shut up, but I did find this interesting:
Rep. Rhonda Fields, who sponsored Colorado’s high capacity magazine ban, declined to be interviewed about what CBS4 had found, saying she was concerned it might impact the November 4 elections.
A little self-preservation there? Stay classy, Rapsheet.
Haven't you ever heard of the David Gregory exemption?
The cops seem to be applying the exception to every citizen of the state, so I don't have a problem with it being applied to this reporter, even if he is a putz.
james_bond_007
10-31-2014, 15:35
I'm stepping ONTO my soapbox ....
The holes in the law, are entirely the Democrat Legislators' fault.
(I call them HOLES because they are there out of ignorance; LOOPHOLES are there out of oversight)
They wanted so badly to put SOME anti mag stuff on the books, no matter how poorly written.
I watched the hearing (I usually don't watch that stuff...but I did).
The Republicans, for hours, pointed out almost all of the holes in the bill at the hearing.
They BEGGED the Democrats to come and debate the issues...but as they Dems had the majority vote, they sat quietly until the republicans were done.
The law was so poorly written, that the Sheriffs filed suit, and said "There is no way we can enforce this law...it has too many holes."
Then Hick got the State's Attorney to draft a letter of 'Technical Guidance' on what the law was SUPPOSED to say, to address some issues.
The letter was drafted on 16MAY13. Almost 2 months BEFORE the law was to go into effect.
(When is the last time you saw a law, not yet in effect, need the State's Attorney to 'explain' what it was 'SUPPOSED' to say?
The letter is to have the Force of Law.
I still can't figure what "Force of Law" is. At trial, a judge is supposed to adjudicate based on the laws; the laws that are on the books.
The letter seems like it can be used to 'frame' the context, but not as a defensible argument for the state's prosecutor.
Q: What kind of Law needs to have an accompanying letter to explain what was 'intended', BEFORE the law goes into effect, any way ? (Rhetorical )
A: A Poorly written one.
Then on 19JUN13, Hick blamed his signing of the bill on the promise of a staff member.
So my stance is that all the holes are the responsibility of the Democrats; those that authored it, those that did not understand it, and those that were too afraid of their party to get up, debate it, and re-write it.
...I'm stepping OFF my soapbox now.
DeusExMachina
10-31-2014, 15:36
I heard one guy was, as an additional charge. He did really bad other stuff. So far no one who was otherwise law abiding.
This was interesting because it was in Denver, he had a Draco with at least one full magazine next to his pile of drugs. They charged him with the new state statute instead of the Denver AWB. And he plead down to that magazine charge.
I'm thinking that the Denver AWB doesn't have a "with intention to commit a crime" component that the state charge does.
I'm started to see leftist whiners come out of the woodwork about how the state is going to completely flip Republican. They can see the writing on the wall but aren't smart enough to get out of the way. The best part is hearing them blame gun owners for it...as if it's our responsibility to just take the shit spooned out by the Dem majority. If they didn't want to get bit, they shouldn't have kicked the dog.
james_bond_007
10-31-2014, 15:39
Why is buying an alleged illegal mag such a big deal ?
There are millions of them in the state, legally, per the mag law's provisos.
Even if they claimed to buy an honest to goodness standard cap mag, many of the sheriffs have decided to 'Choose to NOT Enforce' the law.
Apparently, that is their choice, as was demonstrated by the DC Police/City when David Gregory possessed an illegal 30-rd mag on National TV, in the city of Washington DC, and the police/city chose to "NOT PRESS CHARGES".
As far as telling someone how to retrofit a mag...just search YouTube and the web.
You will find out how to make MUCH worse things out of legal household items.
Want to know how to BUMP a lock ? See Youtube
Want to know how to make explosives ? See Youtube
Want to know how to make drugs ? See Youtube
Want to know how to evade certain taxes ? See Youtube
etc.
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-31-2014, 15:44
I'm started to see leftist whiners come out of the woodwork about how the state is going to completely flip Republican. They can see the writing on the wall but aren't smart enough to get out of the way. The best part is hearing them blame gun owners for it...as if it's our responsibility to just take the shit spooned out by the Dem majority. If they didn't want to get bit, they shouldn't have kicked the dog.
I sure hope you are right, but do not share the same outlook with these leftist whiners.
Why is buying an alleged illegal mag such a big deal ?
There are millions of them in the state, legally, per the mag law's provisos.
Even if they claimed to buy an honest to goodness standard cap mag, many of the sheriffs have decided to 'Choose to NOT Enforce' the law.
Apparently, that is their choice, as was demonstrated by the DC Police/City when David Gregory possessed an illegal 30-rd mag on National TV, in the city of Washington DC, and the police/city chose to "NOT PRESS CHARGES".
As far as telling someone how to retrofit a mag...just search YouTube and the web.
You will find out how to make MUCH worse things out of legal household items.
Want to know how to BUMP a lock ? See Youtube
Want to know how to make explosives ? See Youtube
Want to know how to make drugs ? See Youtube
Want to know how to evade certain taxes ? See Youtube
etc.
Can't stop the signal!
Zundfolge
10-31-2014, 16:24
I'm started to see leftist whiners come out of the woodwork about how the state is going to completely flip Republican.
From their mouths to God's ear! We can only hope.
One blessing we have is that Democrats are filed to the brim with hubris ... had they waited until after this election and after they completely set up protocols to prevent the Republicans from ever retaking power in the state to push their gun control nonsense they might have been able to make it stick and made them much worse (and this goes tipple if they are successfully able to destroy TABOR in the courts).
Instead they jumped the gun on gun control (no pun intended) and it may cost them their takeover of Colorado.
But hey, I'm riding a Halloween candy sugar buzz so I'm in an unusually optimistic mood :p
DeusExMachina
10-31-2014, 16:40
From their mouths to God's ear! We can only hope.
One blessing we have is that Democrats are filed to the brim with hubris ... had they waited until after this election and after they completely set up protocols to prevent the Republicans from ever retaking power in the state to push their gun control nonsense they might have been able to make it stick and made them much worse (and this goes tipple if they are successfully able to destroy TABOR in the courts).
Instead they jumped the gun on gun control (no pun intended) and it may cost them their takeover of Colorado.
But hey, I'm riding a Halloween candy sugar buzz so I'm in an unusually optimistic mood :p
They definitely took their popsicle and ran it off the cliff. If they had only instituted the Voter Fraud Act of 2013 and waited until next year to start on the control, they may have succeeded.
I wonder why they specifically went OUT of the Denver Metro area to do the story when I know of several very popular Denver Metro stores that do the exact same thing. I know of at least one Denver metro store that doesn't even bother to disassemble them. Did the CBS Denver people decide not to "shit where they eat"? Perhaps trying not to mobilize Denver area gun owners? They certainly would have visited local stores first to prepare the story, but decided to do the story using out of area stores. I think that is interesting all by itself.
They went outside Denver city/county because the Denver "Sheriff" was not among those that opposed the law and said it couldn't be enforced.
That's about the only smart thing they thought of.
So, who's going to call Rhonda Fields and demand that she do something?
theGinsue
11-03-2014, 23:43
Colo Spr news channel 11, KKTV, just ran this story - using all of the Denver reporting & footage. Of course, the CS anchor had plenty of her own comments to add in. Because of these comments I broke my Facebook silence and posted the following to Dianne Derby's (the anchor) FB public page:
PLEASE, PLEASE stop saying firearm magazines holding more than 15 rounds are outlawed. That statement is NOT VALID! Since July 1, 2013 it has been illegal in Colorado to BUY, SELL, OR TRANSFER these magazines. This is a far cry from making these magazines illegal if they are already in constant possession of a citizen. Saying they are illegal or banned means than no one can legally own these devices. There are literally millions of firearm magazines with a capacity greater than 15 rounds legally owned by citizens in this state. Additionally, particularly for AR-15's and AK's, 30 round magazines are NOT "high capacity" magazines. The proper term for these magazines is "standard capacity". Calling them anything else is disingenuous and inaccurate.
She's already replied with:
Thomas thanks for writing. I'll pass your comment on to producers now.
Yeah, like they care. At least I feel better for saying my piece.
Yup,the art of misinformation at it's best.
The more they say it's illegal the more they think people will believe it and follow even worse laws..
Great-Kazoo
11-04-2014, 00:21
Colo Spr news channel 11, KKTV, just ran this story - using all of the Denver reporting & footage. Of course, the CS anchor had plenty of her own comments to add in. Because of these comments I broke my Facebook silence and posted the following to Dianne Derby's (the anchor) FB public page:
She's already replied with:
Yeah, like they care. At least I feel better for saying my piece.
The Producers ?
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608010156473716671&pid=15.1&P=0 https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608050181269489199&pid=15.1&P=0
Big John
11-04-2014, 06:14
Colo Spr news channel 11, KKTV, just ran this story - using all of the Denver reporting & footage. Of course, the CS anchor had plenty of her own comments to add in. Because of these comments I broke my Facebook silence and posted the following to Dianne Derby's (the anchor) FB public page:
She's already replied with:
Yeah, like they care. At least I feel better for saying my piece. Well said sir!
EvilRhino
11-04-2014, 06:45
So, who's going to call Rhonda Fields and demand that she do something?
Most people would request the "something" she do be light herself on fire and jump in front of a bus.
rock_castle
11-04-2014, 07:59
Just because someone sits at a desk and reads words on a teleprompter doesn't mean they are smart. The folks who deliver our news can be real idiots.
clublights
11-04-2014, 11:52
"Journalists" have such a bad rap in my opinion anymore, I trust a democrat congressman more.
hollohas
11-04-2014, 12:27
People across the country are seeing this "news" peice. I have a family member in MO (by marrage) that shared a story on Facebook about how shocking it was that people in Colorado aren't following the "spirt of the law". That morally we should be following the law despite the holes. Unbelievable.
"Journalists" have such a bad rap in my opinion anymore, I trust a democrat congressman more.
When I think of journalists today, I need look no further than the Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times, and the Denver Post [ROFL3]
Poor Monica was tortured by Matt Drudge. Now there is a traditional journalist, IMO. Muckraking till something good gets turned over.
Maybe Channel 4 can set up an undercover investigator to catch jaywalkers in LODO. After all, it is the "spirit of the law." [Sarcasm2]
Maybe Channel 4 can set up an undercover investigator to catch jaywalkers in LODO. After all, it is the "spirit of the law." [Sarcasm2]
Really makes you want to make a video for youtube that goes around town filming people breaking dumb laws. "OH THE ATROCITIES! ANOTHER JAYWALKER! FOR THE KIDS!!!!!!!!"
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Ayn Rand
DeusExMachina
11-04-2014, 12:44
People across the country are seeing this "news" peice. I have a family member in MO (by marrage) that shared a story on Facebook about how shocking it was that people in Colorado aren't following the "spirt of the law". That morally we should be following the law despite the holes. Unbelievable.
Ask them what they think about people driving without a license. Or speeding. Or drug use. Liberals truly believe laws are meant for "other people" and have no second thoughts breaking them, up until they're caught.
Conservatives are typically their own worst enemy when it comes to laws restricting freedom, because they consider the consequences and respect the rule of law. So even though they disagree, they follow. But people have had enough.
did anyone petition them to stop calling them illegal, as that a bad word? They said so on tv
If,
illegal = undocumented
then,
law enforcement = document enforcement
That puts a whole new perspective on my career choice. [gohome]
tim-adams
11-04-2014, 14:15
lets hope today is the day to reap the wirlwind..
Great-Kazoo
11-04-2014, 14:18
Ask them what they think about ILLEGALS driving without a license. Or speeding. Or drug use. Liberals truly believe laws are meant for "other people" and have no second thoughts breaking them, up until they're caught.
.
Zundfolge
11-04-2014, 14:26
lets hope today is the day to reap the wirlwind..
hope in one hand ... shit in the other ... I'm not in a very optimistic mood today
People across the country are seeing this "news" peice. I have a family member in MO (by marrage) that shared a story on Facebook about how shocking it was that people in Colorado aren't following the "spirt of the law". That morally we should be following the law despite the holes. Unbelievable.
What is more shocking is the absolute naivety of people compounded by a complete lack of brain function in some cases. Do these people really think a person committed to a capitol felony gives a rat's freckled ass about "the spirit of the law" especially when it comes to firearms, magazines, or any other explosive device...just like those idiotic gun free zone and no gun signs; does a criminal give a rat's freckled ass about the "spirit of the law"? No, they just think, "Sweet!" The whole emotional basis for public policy is such BS!
HoneyBadger
11-04-2014, 15:09
Ask them what they think about people driving without a license. Or speeding. Or drug use. Liberals truly believe laws are meant for "other people" and have no second thoughts breaking them, up until they're caught.
Conservatives are typically their own worst enemy when it comes to laws restricting freedom, because they consider the consequences and respect the rule of law. So even though they disagree, they follow. But people have had enough.
I guess that makes me a liberal then, because these ridiculous laws were definitely not meant for me! ;)
Thomas, I'm actually quote surprised she even acknowledged your comment!
tim-adams
11-04-2014, 15:49
if I have learned anything from my wife its to resist unjust laws, force the agency to enforce them, then screw them in court.
that is the current nature of our government..
Make stupid law <> enforce stupid law <> get sued <> lose for stupid law <> correct/remove stupid law.
I hate this, because the cost of due process and attorneys, places justice outside the grasp of many americans
if I have learned anything from my wife its to resist unjust laws, force the agency to enforce them, then screw them in court.
that is the current nature of our government..
Make stupid law <> enforce stupid law <> get sued <> lose for stupid law <> correct/remove stupid law.
I hate this, because the cost of due process and attorneys, places justice outside the grasp of many americans
And that type of government is legislation through judicial fiat. Not in our Constitution but regularly practiced by people who know they can not get what they want any other way.
Oh, and some people have been looking a bit too closely at rat's asses. [ROFL2]
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