View Full Version : Jonanthon Gruber - Obamacare Architect - Thinks You're Stupid
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/11/12/another-gruber-stupid-voters-video-appears-foxs-megyn-kelly-goes
If Jonathan Gruber, the Obama administration and the establishment press thought that Gruber's faux mea culpa appearance on MSNBC Tuesday afternoon (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2014/11/11/jonathan-gruber-delivers-obamacare-deception-video-excuses-ronan-farrow) would get them off the hook and avoid the need to deal with and cover the Obamacare architect's exposure of the left's mendacity, they were sadly mistaken.
There's yet another damning "stupid voters" video. Megyn Kelly was all over it Tuesday night, exposing the defiantly silent White House's and others' former financial and emotional love for and dependence on the MIT economist's work.
Finally, after the midterms, we get to see this stuff. It is unfortunate that the (D) weren't as forthcoming with the facts about Obamacare prior to its introduction. The ends justify the means.
Great-Kazoo
11-12-2014, 10:43
Sad part is the many comments on different media sites supporting his idea / Ocare. While attacking the critics as mindless limbag and Faux news idiots. I don't watch ANY fox shows, yet agree with anyone who places blame on the media, .gov and most of all the mindless IDIOTS who supported the D's in their quest for Ocare.
wctriumph
11-12-2014, 13:03
I watched the Kelly File when Megan was talking to a supporter of the ACA and she caught the guy in so many lies and contradictions that she ended up doing a double face palm. She just could not believe that this guy was continuing to spout the party line and lies even when confronted with the truth and the statistics that disproved everything he said. It was funny but terrifying at the same time. The ideology of the left is ruining this country because the American voter is so stupid that they swallow it all instead of spitting it back in the liers faces.
TEA
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This confirms what people who can think for themselves already knew back in 2010. Unfortunately nobody who thought Obamacare was a great idea then will give this any credence.
The ideology of the left is ruining this country because the American voter is so stupid that they swallow it all instead of spitting it back in the liers faces.Democrats have managed to brainwash people into beleiving that they are erudite, compassionate, and champions for minorities, and that Republicans are racist knuckle-dragging inbred morons. Once people believe that, anything the Democrats say becomes irrefutable, because by definition, anybody who questions them is a bigot/hick/etc. ****ing brilliant.
Democrats have managed to brainwash people into beleiving that they are erudite, compassionate, and champions for minorities, and that Republicans are racist knuckle-dragging inbred morons. Once people believe that, anything the Democrats say becomes irrefutable, because by definition, anybody who questions them is a bigot/hick/etc. ****ing brilliant.
^Yup. Its amazing to read comments about republicans on various democrat facebook pages (Too informed to vote republican). Im sure there are similar comments about dems on republican pages but they really do feel they are 10 times smarter and more caring than any republican.
Zundfolge
11-12-2014, 17:52
None of this is really news to anyone that's been paying attention.
Obama's Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Cass Sunstein, famously called us all "Homer Simpson" and we need to be "nudged" and manipulated into doing what they want us to do for our own good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxIxu_quwAY
And of course Andy Stern, Obama's buddy and head of SEIU who famously said that "If we cant use the power of persuasion, we will use the persuasion of power. Workers of the world unite."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSllsTLkBsw
This administration HATES the people and sees us only as animals to be ruled by the whip.
BPTactical
11-12-2014, 18:03
This administration HATES the people and sees us only as animals to be ruled by the whip.
I shall not comply thank you very much.
Don't be the draft horse that keeps the pigs in power.
muddywings
11-12-2014, 21:37
What I'm perplexed at is why it took so long to find these video clips. I'm trying to figure how a bomb like this had stayed silent and not come out sooner.
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SamuraiCO
11-13-2014, 07:15
We never saw the videos nor was this law properly vetted because those running the media were carrying the water for the Admin and wanted this legislation.
The ACA ("Obamacare") was never really suppose to work. It's function was to render private insurance so unwieldy and expensive as to drive the consumer to single payer. Remember Odumbo had several quotes in front of different audiences stating he wanted single payer but that would not pass. The ACA is just step one. No one championed the ACA as a system that was better than single payer.
It will continue to get more expensive with less options until we throw up are arms and want the Gov to help us.
buffalobo
11-13-2014, 07:54
What I'm perplexed at is why it took so long to find these video clips. I'm trying to figure how a bomb like this had stayed silent and not come out sooner.
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Those he was speaking to are in academia and of the same belief as he.
Everything about the Obama administration is deceit, lies by omission, lies by commission and just plain evil. This revelation should not be a surprise.
Singlestack
11-14-2014, 07:34
The value here is seeing how those people talk to each other, away from the (known) TV cameras. It can be very hard to come across something as jarring as this. While watching the first Gruber video, I really wanted to deliver a right cross to the smirking ahole next to him...
Relax these Ivy League educated Masters know way more than all of us. Too bad they don't repeal laws and leave us all alone.
BushMasterBoy
11-14-2014, 12:06
The CACA Act!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Gruber_(economist)52327
HoneyBadger
11-14-2014, 14:31
Don't be the draft horse that keeps the pigs in power.
Well, as much as I hate paying taxes, I don't really see NOT paying taxes as a realistic answer.
68Charger
11-14-2014, 16:29
Don't be the draft horse that keeps the pigs in power.
Well, as much as I hate paying taxes, I don't really see NOT paying taxes as a realistic answer.
Who is John Galt?
Aloha_Shooter
11-15-2014, 16:41
He's half-right. The morons who voted for Obamacare or think it didn't go far enough ARE stupid and they're precisely the gullible idiots that Gruber and company were depending on.
hollohas
11-21-2014, 15:28
He's totally right. The American public IS stupid. Anyone with half a brain knew that Obama care would raise rates, cancel plans, cost more, not enroll as many...etc...
All those arguments were made constantly before the bill was passed.
Yet the public chose to believe the dems. So this dude is right, people are pretty f'n stupid.
mightiestmouse
11-21-2014, 15:34
Our rates went up somewhere around 15-19% this year... not quite sure how people think this is affordable.
hollohas
11-21-2014, 15:42
Many people on the exchanges are reporting rates are double next year. Personally, my rates have gone up 15- 20% per year since the first plan year after the ACA passed. The first year after my rates went up by 50%. I know the law hadn't gone into effect yet but the providers started to make their own changes to prepare themselves financially.
And deductibles, out of pocket max and co-insurance have all gone up drastically each year too.
I dont know whether to laugh or cry anymore.
68Charger
11-21-2014, 17:14
The ACA is doing exactly what it was intended to do- wealth redistribution... subsidies for those that do not contribute to society, and increased rates for those that do.
jerrymrc
11-21-2014, 22:10
The ACA is doing exactly what it was intended to do- wealth redistribution... subsidies for those that do not contribute to society, and increased rates for those that do.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The sad thing is for those that have coverage it has doubled in the last few years. the co-pays have gone through the roof. I found one of my old cards from 2009 the other day. I then pulled a pay stub from then.
2009 2014
bi weekly amount= $133 $257
Employer pays= $352 $437
ER visit= $50 $200
inpatient= $100 total $250 per day
outpatient surgery= $100 $300
After hours= $25 $75
Dr visit= $20 $20
They also dropped Dental coverage from 2009 except for a visit and cleanings so that now adds $43 a pay check. there is no "sliding scale" for .Gov workers and after doing this gig for 34+ years I cant wait for it to end in 4-5 years.
Good thing I planned for this. Making $70K in a job that pays $120K on the outside the benefit will be a $27K retirement after 40 years. [beatdeadhorse]
BPTactical
11-21-2014, 22:38
But you can keep your Dr....
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