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roberth
11-13-2014, 08:47
http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-news/ci_26919405/cu-boulder-study-fracking-fluid-no-more-toxic


The chemicals found in fracking fluid collected in five states — including Colorado — were no more toxic than common household substances, according to a newly released study by researchers at the University of Colorado.

CU is a liberal enclave so why would they publish findings contrary to their normal message?

buffalobo
11-13-2014, 08:50
Blinded by science?

BPTactical
11-13-2014, 08:56
"Than common household substances"

That's spooky. Look under your kitchen sink or in the laundry room. Common household substances that are very toxic and even worse if combined.

A buddy of mine used to do HazMat site mitigation estimates for Union Pacific RR. I asked him if he ever got nervous about walking on to the sites. He said no, the shit you find under the sink is 10 times spookier than any HazMat site he had been to.


"Common household substances ".................riiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhttttt!

2XS
11-13-2014, 08:58
I second that burt when I saw the email with that yesterday morning there is a lot stuff under the sink I don't want to drink.

Bailey Guns
11-13-2014, 10:19
I took a couple of things away from this article:

The chemicals really aren't as scary as the anti-fracking crowd would have us believe. And while I don't want to drink many of the chemicals found under my sink that really isn't what they're saying.


The study, published Wednesday in the journal Analytical Chemistry (http://www.pubs.acs.org/journal/ancham), found that chemicals in the fracking fluid samples also were found in everyday products such as toothpaste, detergent, ice cream and laxatives.

The point of that is most of the chemicals found in the concentrations used in fracking aren't quite as bad as many want you to believe.

The other thing is, to the leftists, this really isn't about the truth:


Cliff Willmeng, of the anti-fracking activist group East Boulder County United, declined to comment on the study itself, saying instead that "we're missing the point," with studies such as CU's diverting the conversation away from whether communities should ban fracking.


"This is a question of community rights versus corporate power," he said. "We don't need a study to conclude that democratic power comes from the people."


Willmeng added that Durango emergency room nurse Cathy Behr in 2008 went into organ failure after treating a worker who was exposed to fracking fluid, showing that it's dangerous.



No, Cliff, we're not missing the point. You're arguments aren't about fracking...your arguments are about leftist control and a hate towards anything "corporate". Ignorant tools like this guy make me laugh. Imagine the IQ level of the average leftist his arguments are directed towards. One would have to possess zero critical thinking skills in order not to see right through this argument. That's not to say there might not be better arguments against fracking...but this isn't one of 'em.

And his "proof" that fracking is dangerous from the nurse anecdote is laughable. A worker was exposed to fracking fluid, goes to hospital, gets treated and then a nurse allegedly gets sick from it. Is it contagious? That's just hilarious.

buffalobo
11-13-2014, 10:48
Wonder if we could get Cliff to respond to this article where Hickenlooper tells about he and others drinking fracking fluid.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/feb/12/colorado-gov-hickenlooper-i-drank-fracking-fluid/


Cliff and his buddies are maroons.

Zundfolge
11-13-2014, 11:02
Cliff and his buddies are maroons.
No, Cliff and his buddies are evil, cold, calculating bastards ... don't underestimate these idiots but instead set out to destroy them.

thvigil11
11-13-2014, 11:33
Police bullets are no more deadly than bullets found in your home!

[panic]

boomerhc9
11-13-2014, 12:49
Police bullets are no more deadly than bullets found in your home!

[panic]


especialy when their hit ratios are lower than the average gun enthusiast.

HoneyBadger
11-13-2014, 13:07
And his "proof" that fracking is dangerous from the nurse anecdote is laughable. A worker was exposed to fracking fluid, goes to hospital, gets treated and then a nurse allegedly gets sick from it. Is it contagious? That's just hilarious.
[ROFL1]
The stupid is strong with that one!


especialy when their hit ratios are lower than the average gun enthusiast.
Why do you have to make this into a cop-bashing thread?

IBTL... [Roll1]






[Sarcasm2]

UncleDave
11-13-2014, 15:53
Most fracking fluid is water, soap, and sand or glass beads. That about it. Sometimes a little acid to etch the rock. Couple that with the fact that the zones you are working on are mile or more below the water table means that the odds of that fluid coming into contact with the drinking water is almost zero.

PugnacAutMortem
11-13-2014, 16:57
Most fracking fluid is water, soap, and sand or glass beads. That about it. Sometimes a little acid to etch the rock. Couple that with the fact that the zones you are working on are mile or more below the water table means that the odds of that fluid coming into contact with the drinking water is almost zero.

You stop that logic and reason bullshit. Stop it right now.

asmo
11-14-2014, 01:31
I've never heard of anyone (semi-educated) complaining about the fracking fluid being toxic. The biggest complaint I have heard is the whole natural gas/oil/etc that is released by the fracking getting into the water supply. e.g. the water coming out of my kitchen sink is on fire..

Is this a "thing"?

brutal
11-14-2014, 02:03
I've never heard of anyone (semi-educated) complaining about the fracking fluid being toxic. The biggest complaint I have heard is the whole natural gas/oil/etc that is released by the fracking getting into the water supply. e.g. the water coming out of my kitchen sink is on fire..

Is this a "thing"?

I've heard if your tap water is on fire and you're on a well and own the mineral rights, you've just won the lotto.

clublights
11-14-2014, 02:26
I've never heard of anyone (semi-educated) complaining about the fracking fluid being toxic. The biggest complaint I have heard is the whole natural gas/oil/etc that is released by the fracking getting into the water supply. e.g. the water coming out of my kitchen sink is on fire..

Is this a "thing"?


oh it's a thing .. they say .. I'm not sure how much of it is internet lore and how much is real because any time your talking to an anti-Fracker and ask for citations you get anti fracking sites .. not anything "unbiased" ( not even main stream media) Oh and you will be called uneducated and ignorant ... oh and if any research comes out that is not in line with the anti fracker-- they are on the take.

Same play book the climate change guys use. Everyone anti climate change ( or more not in full lock step) is on the take .. but the pro climate change researchers all all good and fluffy puppies... tho there are literally trillions of dollars in play ... go figure.

BREATHER
11-14-2014, 05:02
Toxic is toxic. They're counting on non critical thinkers to believe that ,,, "oh well it isn't that dangerous"....

UncleDave
11-14-2014, 05:43
When there is gas, or methane in a water well 9/10 it is a natural seep. Those occur all over the world, and have as long as there has been an earth. Can stimulation cause this to be a little worse, possibly. However the stimulation did not cause the problem, there was an issue with that water table before.

Big John
11-14-2014, 05:55
The left is gearing up to ok the Keystone pipeline and take credit for the great idea. Thus prosperity in a pretty desperate America. Some time before 2016 the left will propose to allow drilling in our ridiculously oil rich country in places that they are adamantly against right now. I'm thinking that this sudden change on fracking will spread and surely plays into this plan.

Bailey Guns
11-14-2014, 06:30
Toxic is toxic. They're counting on non critical thinkers to believe that ,,, "oh well it isn't that dangerous"....

"Toxic is Toxic", huh? I wonder if the "critical thinkers" ever take any meds, prescription or OTC? Most of them are toxic in the correct amounts. Drink alcohol? Toxic. Smoke...anything? Toxic. Drink fluoridated water from a city water supply? Fluoride is toxic. Hell...pure water can be harmful if you drink too much. There are literally thousands of items you probably consume that in one form or another are toxic or contain a toxic ingredient.

So for those of us who aren't "critical thinkers" it just isn't that simple.

Bailey Guns
11-14-2014, 06:32
The left is gearing up to ok the Keystone pipeline and take credit for the great idea. Thus prosperity in a pretty desperate America. Some time before 2016 the left will propose to allow drilling in our ridiculously oil rich country in places that they are adamantly against right now. I'm thinking that this sudden change on fracking will spread and surely plays into this plan.

Wonder if there's a way the House could block any Keystone bill til after the new congress is seated without looking like the bad guys?

Justin
11-14-2014, 07:38
Toxic is toxic. They're counting on non critical thinkers to believe that ,,, "oh well it isn't that dangerous"....

If this were true, taking 2,000 IU of vitamin D would kill you dead instead of being good for you.

As the old saying goes "The dose makes the poison."

BushMasterBoy
11-14-2014, 07:43
I distill all my drinking water. I live downstream from a uranium processing plant. Filters on the shower heads too. Don't worry the EPA will use your tax dollars to clean it up. Oh wait, it is our money...

speedysst
11-14-2014, 09:18
This came up in the movie Gasland. As it turned out, the homeowner's well went right through a naturally occurring pocket of methane though that part didn't make the news.
I've never heard of anyone (semi-educated) complaining about the fracking fluid being toxic. The biggest complaint I have heard is the whole natural gas/oil/etc that is released by the fracking getting into the water supply. e.g. the water coming out of my kitchen sink is on fire..

Is this a "thing"?

Irving
11-14-2014, 11:06
I've never heard of anyone (semi-educated) complaining about the fracking fluid being toxic. The biggest complaint I have heard is the whole natural gas/oil/etc that is released by the fracking getting into the water supply. e.g. the water coming out of my kitchen sink is on fire..

Is this a "thing"?

No, it's not really a thing.

avandelay
11-14-2014, 12:37
Wonder if there's a way the House could block any Keystone bill til after the new congress is seated without looking like the bad guys?

Why do that? This is a last ditch effort by Landrieu to garner votes, but it doesn't appear that people are buying it. The latest numbers show her 16 points down to her challenger.