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Bailey Guns
11-13-2014, 09:09
What happened to diesel fuel prices in the last two weeks? Gas prices are falling like a rock and diesel prices are climbing like a rocket!
Gas is down to $2.76 in the Conifer/Bailey area. Diesel prices fell to around $3.42 the first part of Nov and literally overnight went to $3.89 gallon.
I know demand for diesel doesn't fall in the winter like gasoline demand does and I know the refining capability for diesel isn't near what it is for gasoline in the US. I'm just curious if there's a reason I haven't heard about.
Interesting, found these.
http://www.truckinginfo.com/list/tag/diesel-prices.aspx (http://www.truckinginfo.com/list/tag/diesel-prices.aspx)
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=31&t=9
http://fox11online.com/2014/11/12/demand-keeps-diesel-prices-up/
At the beginning of the month, there was about a 54 cent difference between a gallon of gas and diesel. Now, it’s widened to an average of 92 cents. The average price of gas in the Green Bay area is $2.96. The average price for diesel is $3.88.Gas analysts say the difference mostly boils down to supply and demand.
“Each type of fuel whether it be gasoline, diesel, or jet fuel has its own fundamentals, its own supply and demand issues,” said Patrick DeHaan, a senior petroleum analyst for GasBuddy.com.
DeHaan says demand for diesel has especially surged in developing countries like South America and China. He says here, in North Dakota, oil production has impacted the increased demand.
“A lot of the construction equipment, the vehicles that are involved in drilling production are all powered by diesel, whether it be generators or drilling rigs or pickup trucks,” said DeHaan.
Do refineries schedule when they'll produce diesel and when they won't? If they do maybe they aren't producing diesel right now.
Great-Kazoo
11-13-2014, 09:43
The thin blue line is preventing truckers from delivering this much needed liquid gold to service stations.
BushMasterBoy
11-13-2014, 09:47
Heating oil demand...
Bailey Guns
11-13-2014, 09:57
^^...Yeah, I figured that might be part of it since they're almost the same.
I was really pissed when I filled up last time so I pulled out the gas Yukon and I am driving that for awhile. I am annoyed that I didn't fill my fuel cans before the 45 cent spike last weekend. The heating oil thing always impacts diesel, but I think it is just a compensatory way of offsetting the price of gas.
Yeah, it stings. For me, its not so bad because I have a 3 mile commute. Even at .45/gallon difference, 20 gallons only adds $9 to the fill up. I only have to do that a couple times a month so not terrible. If I had to fill up twice a week, that'd be different.
Yeah, it stings. For me, its not so bad because I have a 3 mile commute. Even at .45/gallon difference, 20 gallons only adds $9 to the fill up. I only have to do that a couple times a month so not terrible. If I had to fill up twice a week, that'd be different.
I drive 85 miles a day so it really sucks!
I drive 85 miles a day so it really sucks!
:( Ouch. Yeah, that'd be a whole new ballgame.
160 gal's this month already.....
Heating oil demand...
I forgot about that one. Thank you for reminding me.
mtnrider
11-13-2014, 11:35
Yeah, I got sticker shock when I was driving to work Tuesday morning. Passed a couple of stations and noticed an almost .50 cent increase over night. [Rant1]
Thisis also the time of year when they switch over to winter weight diesel which doesn't jell as easy.
Past weekend got D in Brush for 3.49, was 3.89 up here the same day.
And they better get that winter D ready quick pasted 3 (Found On Road Dead)Ford F350's sitting on side of the road up here in various places.
Duramax!!! No problems.
newracer
11-13-2014, 14:27
The station by my work went from $2.30 to $2.85 in a day or two, now it is at $2.65.
ZERO THEORY
11-13-2014, 15:44
Bear in mind, it's also gonna be winter blend fuel now. Not looking forward to paying for that.
I really need to just cough up the $7K and start making my own fuel.
Even with their winter blend, this is a must for my cummins
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Even with their winter blend, this is a must for my cummins
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Run it year round.
Silver in the summer, white in the winter.
Mix in a little MMO to quiet the injectors.
Yep definitely sucks paying the increased price
sabot_round
11-13-2014, 18:59
Well f**k!! I need my diesel running!!!
SR
theGinsue
11-13-2014, 19:30
I bought a new Honda Civic with traction control a couple of months ago. It won't drive in the winter as well as a Subaru, but it wasn't nearly as expensive as one either. It's still a lot better than my Celica was though. I've been driving it through this minor stuff so far to keep from putting more miles on & burning the diesel in my F250. So far, so good. I still need to take the F250 for a spin once/week to keep things from failing. Eventually the tank is going to run dry. I just hope diesel starts working it's way back down.
Thanks to those who recommended Howes in the diesel thread last year. I was getting headaches from the "Power Service" fluid, but the Howes really doesn't have an odor. So long as I don't gel up, I'll be okay. Question to you with more diesel experience than
I have: Does gelled diesel fuel un-gel once the outdoor temperature rises, or does it remain gelled?
Mix in a little MMO to quiet the injectors.
?? MMO? What's that?
I bought a new Honda Civic with traction control a couple of months ago. It won't drive in the winter as well as a Subaru, but it wasn't nearly as expensive as one either. It's still a lot better than my Celica was though. I've been driving it through this minor stuff so far to keep from putting more miles on & burning the diesel in my F250. So far, so good. I still need to take the F250 for a spin once/week to keep things from failing. Eventually the tank is going to run dry. I just hope diesel starts working it's way back down.
Thanks to those who recommended Howes in the diesel thread last year. I was getting headaches from the "Power Service" fluid, but the Howes really doesn't have an odor. So long as I don't gel up, I'll be okay. Question to you with more diesel experience than
I have: Does gelled diesel fuel un-gel once the outdoor temperature rises, or does it remain gelled?
?? MMO? What's that?
Snake oil. Wonder whiz, Jammin juice. But it works for me. 12oz PS and 4oz MMO in (almost) every tank. Unless I ran out.
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theGinsue
11-13-2014, 20:04
I'll have to try it out. My 6.0l (yeah, I know, NOW; but nobody said anything before I bought the damned thing) has had some injector issues which have cost me mega bucks so far.
With the (reported) loss of lubricity in the ULSD fuels, I think it's important to add some back in to save the pumps and injectors.
Never used the Howes, heard (on the intarwebz) it has vegie oil products in it and has gummed some rigs up.
I know what you mean about the PS smell. Damn near makes me feel like it's triggered a migraine when I get a whiff.
cableguy11
11-13-2014, 20:43
Its my fault, I bought a diesel so of course the price goes up...thats my kinda luck! Never driven a diesel in these cold temps, but mine does not like the cold. Been fueling up at Costco, haven't looked at the price as the pump stops at 100.00 and that usually just gets me close to full. This thing does not like the cold at all. Plugged in over night not bad on start up, but sitting 12 hours in the parking lot at work and it barely starts, packed the jumper cables just in case! Going to have to try the MMO in there, I just poured some diesel kleen gray bottle in there last week, should have tried the white.
Anybody using Stanadyne?
I tried Stanadyne followed the directions on bottle and the next day my check engine light came on, I checked the code and had to replace my maf sensor. Maybe a coinsidence but haven't used it again.
I bought a new Honda Civic with traction control a couple of months ago. It won't drive in the winter as well as a Subaru, but it wasn't nearly as expensive as one either. It's still a lot better than my Celica was though. I've been driving it through this minor stuff so far to keep from putting more miles on & burning the diesel in my F250. So far, so good. I still need to take the F250 for a spin once/week to keep things from failing. Eventually the tank is going to run dry. I just hope diesel starts working it's way back down.
Thanks to those who recommended Howes in the diesel thread last year. I was getting headaches from the "Power Service" fluid, but the Howes really doesn't have an odor. So long as I don't gel up, I'll be okay. Question to you with more diesel experience than
I have: Does gelled diesel fuel un-gel once the outdoor temperature rises, or does it remain gelled?
?? MMO? What's that?
Not sure if it remains gelled or not once it warms up but in the event you gel up this will get you up and running
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Diesel will un gel once it warms up. You can either heat up under the fuel tank or out it in heated garage or wait for temps to rise. Might need to change the fuel filter.
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