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buffalobo
11-14-2014, 17:10
Looks like will be built.
Take your pick of stories.
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-verizon&source=android-browser&q=keystone+pipeline+legislation
Keystone Pipeline?
Is that a new chairlift in Summit County? Dude... :D
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One of Obama's target agenda projects.
Brings illegals in from Mexico dumps em off in Canada so they can sneek across the border, with full auto weapons, doing the jobs Americans don't want to and helping democrats in 2016.
Wait.
So illegals are going to get shoved into a pipeline in Mexico and get pumped into Canada?
Sounds great to me as long as they stay there.
BushMasterBoy
11-14-2014, 18:30
What kind of cops will protect it?
Maybe it will split the country and all the libs will be moving east of it.
hurley842002
11-14-2014, 19:05
Maybe it will split the country and all the libs will be moving east of it.
That would be awesome, then I could move to the West Coast.
well libs fear it so I am sure we could secure this side of it.
That would be awesome, then I could move to the West Coast.
That'll be annexed to Mexico in a couple of years. ;)
That'll be annexed to Mexico in a couple of years. ;)
I thought it was already theirs?
Great-Kazoo
11-14-2014, 21:09
I thought it was already theirs?
It's been theirs. They ar ejust waiting for CA to finishing paying off their entitlements for yr 2015 before taking possession of the deed.
I'd buy a horse hauler and start moving the D's to the missssippii country line, en masse . Peacefully or not, i'm not a sensitive guy.
Big John
11-15-2014, 05:40
This is all part of the plan. Obama 2016[panic]
I've already seen liberals losing their shit online about this. One idiot scientist said it has the potential to lead to an ecological disaster. My truck has the potential to run people over, that doesn't mean I'm not going to try like hell to prevent that from ever happening.
I've already seen liberals losing their shit online about this. One idiot scientist said it has the potential to lead to an ecological disaster. My truck has the potential to run people over, that doesn't mean I'm not going to try like hell to prevent that from ever happening.
Kinda like how the Hadron Collider was supposed to destroy the world.
Jeffrey Lebowski
11-15-2014, 11:15
From today.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/obamas-latest-economics-lesson-1416009292
Someone should tell the President that oil markets are global and adding to global supply might well reduce U.S. gas prices, other things being equal. A tutor could add that Keystone XL will also carry U.S. light oil from North Dakota’s Bakken Shale. So even if he thinks that bilateral trade only helps Canada, he’s still wrong about Keystone.
“If my Republican friends really want to focus on what’s good for the American people in terms of job creation and lower energy costs,” the President added, “we should be engaging in a conversation about what are we doing to produce even more homegrown energy.” Mr. Obama routinely entreats Congress to spend taxpayer money on “infrastructure” to create jobs, yet he implies that the 1,179-mile Keystone infrastructure project won’t create jobs. Perhaps (see editorial above) Mr. Obama really does think the American people are stupid.
From an insider I know, the pipe line will not be built if oil prices remain where they are. To be worth while, oil needs to pick up to at least $90/barrel and rising.
So even if the retards (Ds & Rs alike) in DC allow it, it may not be built.
eneranch
11-15-2014, 12:36
^^^ A friend & I were talking about this yesterday
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102181913
Kinda like how the Hadron Collider was supposed to destroy the world.
We've all been sucked into a massive man made black hole. We just can't prove it until we actually find the God particle.
I've already seen liberals losing their shit online about this. One idiot scientist said it has the potential to lead to an ecological disaster.
How was oil discovered? IT WAS SEEPING OUT OF THE GROUND!
This planet has been coexisting with petroleum since before we even knew it existed. Guess what? There's oil seeping into the ocean every minute of every day. It's just not newsworthy and doesn't follow the agenda to shutdown the advancement of mankind.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090513130944.htm
Twenty years ago, the oil tanker Exxon Valdez was exiting Alaska's Prince William Sound when it struck a reef in the middle of the night. What happened next is considered one of the nation's worst environmental disasters: 10.8 million gallons of crude oil spilled into the pristine Alaskan waters, eventually covering 11,000 square miles of ocean. Now, imagine 8 to 80 times the amount of oil spilled in the Exxon Valdez accident. According to new research, that's how much oil has made its way into sediments offshore from petroleum seeps near Coal Oil Point in the Santa Barbara Channel.
BPTactical
11-15-2014, 16:38
We've all been sucked into a massive man made black hole.
No wonder I feel so depressed, we have all been thrown into Obarryo's asshole.
If liberals really want to end oil as an energy source, all they need to do is pull their head out of their asses about nuclear energy and get behind that. That will end oil, solar, and wind all at the same time.
Where are the oil pipelines? - American Petroleum Institute
www.api.org › ... › Pipelines
American Petroleum Institute
Liquid Petroleum Map - t150 ... More than 190,000 miles of liquid petroleum pipelines traverse the United ... U.S. Crude Oil and Refined Products Pipelines.
My thoughts are foreign oil producers are spending money trying to stop the export of Canadian crude. One more pipeline is a none issue when you look at the current maze of pipes
Jesus-With-A-.45
11-16-2014, 14:14
Mark my words...........FBHO will veto the Keystone pipeline if it hits his desk. Guaranteed.
Surprise!!! Didn't make it out of the Senate.
Senate Democrats reject bill to build oil pipeline (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-democrats-reject-bill-to-build-oil-pipeline/ar-BBexiic)
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Democrat-controlled Senate has defeated a bill to approve the Keystone XL oil pipeline.
The Senate's 59-41 vote Tuesday night was a nail-biter to the end.
The bill needed 60 votes to reach the White House. The House passed it overwhelmingly last week.
President Barack Obama did not support the bill, but the White House has been mum on whether or not he will veto it.
Democrat Sen. Mary Landrieu pushed for the vote in an effort to save her seat in a Dec. 6 runoff election in Louisiana. She faces an uphill battle against Republican Rep. Bill Cassidy, who authored the House bill.
All Republicans said publicly they supported the Senate bill, as did several moderate Democrats.
Surprise!!! Didn't make it out of the Senate.
Senate Democrats reject bill to build oil pipeline (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-democrats-reject-bill-to-build-oil-pipeline/ar-BBexiic)
Wait till January. Only question is if it lands on the King's desk or gets shoved down his throat.
Obama is going to have a tough couple of years. I still think the media will keep up the mantra of the Republicans being the party of "No" as Obama refuses to sign bills coming out of the Congress.
Singlestack
11-19-2014, 07:44
Wait till January. Only question is if it lands on the King's desk or gets shoved down his throat.
^ This. It will be interesting to see in the new congress if they have 60 votes - they may, given some dems voted for it yesterday. Of course, some of them (Landroo, etc) may not be there if they just lost/lose their election. It would be so awesome to send Beeho a bill, have him veto it, and then shove it down his throat with an override. A few of those would surely taste like a s**t sandwich to the emporer!
From an insider I know, the pipe line will not be built if oil prices remain where they are. To be worth while, oil needs to pick up to at least $90/barrel and rising.
So even if the retards (Ds & Rs alike) in DC allow it, it may not be built.
Hence why they dropped the price of oil when the bill was being Voted on. I give it 2 months and we will be back up to $3 a gallon, and rising. We will never see under $1 again, under $2 is plausible depending on what other crap they want to vote to pass or fail.
Wait, it only takes a simple majority to pass a bill. This bill has passed both houses, send it to the king for his stamp.
Hence why they dropped the price of oil when the bill was being Voted on. I give it 2 months and we will be back up to $3 a gallon, and rising. We will never see under $1 again, under $2 is plausible depending on what other crap they want to vote to pass or fail.
Who is "they?"
Zundfolge
11-19-2014, 09:52
Surprise!!! Didn't make it out of the Senate.
Senate Democrats reject bill to build oil pipeline (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-democrats-reject-bill-to-build-oil-pipeline/ar-BBexiic)
It failed by 1 vote ... of our two senators Bennett voted FOR it, and Udall (in what I believe is his final FUCK YOU to the people of Colorado) voted AGAINST.
Markey boy needs to move back to AZ when he leaves DC.
hurley842002
11-19-2014, 10:00
It failed by 1 vote ... of our two senators Bennett voted FOR it, and Udall (in what I believe is his final FUCK YOU to the people of Colorado) voted AGAINST.
Markey boy needs to move back to AZ when he leaves DC.
I actually enjoy AZ, maybe he can move back east.
Zundfolge
11-19-2014, 10:08
I actually enjoy AZ, maybe he can move back east.
I don't care where he goes as long as its away.
BushMasterBoy
11-19-2014, 18:12
Is this the railroad/trucking lobby that is defeating this?
XC700116
11-19-2014, 20:00
Is this the railroad/trucking lobby that is defeating this?
Possibly had something to do with it, but I'd honestly say RR more than trucking. They could line trucks up from the fields to the refineries with zero cars in between and they couldn't handle a half of the volume needed to be moved. It's not effective enough and there's not going to be any loss to the trucking industry due to it if it goes through. Reduced fuel costs would benefit them more than any loss that they'd take.
The RR's on the other hand is a whole different ball game and while they are second largest consumer of diesel fuel in the world (second only to the US Navy) They also have the best futures buyers in the world working for them. Plus a major shift will soon be coming to them via LNG to replace and or supplement diesel usage which will dramatically reduce fuel costs for train traffic. Combine that with record earnings due to the crude by rail business from the baaken and you have some REALLY heavy incentive to lobby hard to stop Keystone XL.
Also Keystone XL (the current proposed expansion) won't effect that much of the traffic from the Baaken, however, if successful, further expansion could dramatically effect it.
Then thrown in the enviro-nazis who almost exclusively lobby to the D camp, and there's lots of reasons for them to vote against it.
In 100% honestly, I don't think the current proposed expansion would do that much to prices at the pump for us, it's Canadian oil that's going to flow in it for the most part, BUT I'd rather buy from the Canuks than from the towel heads. Better yet, build a good pipeline network from the Baaken, include branches in Eastern CO, KS, OK, etc, and move some of this stuff efficiently.
We are experiencing shortages in construction material, not from supply, but lack of transportation. Building this line may not reduce gas prices, but it could lower other prices by increasing the supply of transportation.
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