Pass citizenship test to graduate

[Eric P]

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/12/01/north-dakota-may-require-all-high-school-students-to-pass-us-citizenship-civics/

Sounds like a great idea.

To bad it couldn't be used as a pre-requisite to register to vote.

[Great-Kazoo]

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608051843459055780&pid=15.1&P=0

[Eric P]

I'll add that the citizenship is probably a better test for civics than any common core civics test.

What does that say in the picture above?

[Great-Kazoo]

Eso = That es = is Racista = Racist No Hablo espanol? Like it or not having even a basic grasp never hurts. It's really a bonus for selling ones treasures when having a garage sale.
OR realizing the guys you wandered in to are debating whether to stab or beat you to a pulp, prior to relieving you of your entitlements.

[Ed_S]

Sounds like a good idea to me. You'd be surprised how many people don’t know the answer to some pretty basic citizenship questions!
I got 100% at my citizenship exam earlier this year and in July became a US citizen.
The end of a long journey and dream!

[Great-Kazoo]

Sounds like a good idea to me. You'd be surprised how many people don’t know the answer to some pretty basic citizenship questions!
I got 100% at my citizenship exam earlier this year and in July became a US citizen.
The end of a long journey and dream!

Good for you and congratulations.. I doubt most of us having been born here, could get a decent score on it.

[KestrelBike]

http://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/quiz/learners/study-test/study-materials-civics-test/naturalization-self-test-1/take

I got 24/25 (didn't recall what Susan B. Anthony did to make herself famous)

[Rucker61]

http://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/quiz/learners/study-test/study-materials-civics-test/naturalization-self-test-1/take

I got 24/25 (didn't recall what Susan B. Anthony did to make herself famous)

Whatever she did, she only charged a dollar.

[Irving]

I got 24/25 (didn't recall what Susan B. Anthony did to make herself famous)


Sex tape, right?

[OtterbatHellcat]

Sex tape, right?

Nope.

She was the Madam running stuff.

[KestrelBike]

Nope.

She was the Madam running stuff.

She put the poke in Pocahontas?

[newracer]

24/25 then 23/25

[Irving]

24/25 then 23/25

Proof that the longer you live here, the less you know.

[newracer]

I took two out of the four tests.

[Big John]

Sounds like a good idea to me. You'd be surprised how many people don’t know the answer to some pretty basic citizenship questions!
I got 100% at my citizenship exam earlier this year and in July became a US citizen.
The end of a long journey and dream!Way to go Ed... Congratulations![Alrigh]

[RblDiver]

To bad it couldn't be used as a pre-requisite to register to vote.

Why not? I think there could be a strong argument at a state level that so long as said test was free (to avoid the prohibition on poll taxes), you could mandate it before being allowed to vote, and make it so that you had to renew it every, say, 10 years.

(I'm a big proponent of having to pass a citizenship test in order to vote)

Edit: Another possible objection might be Amendment 14, but if a state was willing to see their representation in the house reduced, it could still be done.

[muddywings]

took one test, got 25/25; will quit while ahead.
and congrats to Ed...that's how ya do it!

[Aloha_Shooter]

Why not? I think there could be a strong argument at a state level that so long as said test was free (to avoid the prohibition on poll taxes), you could mandate it before being allowed to vote, and make it so that you had to renew it every, say, 10 years.

(I'm a big proponent of having to pass a citizenship test in order to vote)

Edit: Another possible objection might be Amendment 14, but if a state was willing to see their representation in the house reduced, it could still be done.

I wish the same civics test used for naturalization could be used as prerequisite for exercising voting privileges but there'd be strong opposition from the same folks who want to issue drivers licenses to illegal undocumented immigrants residents. The usual arguments are 1) tests were used during Jim Crow to try to keep blacks from voting so any new test proposal is automatically racist and suspect and 2) voting is an unrestricted right granted by the Constitution and cannot be restricted by simple legislative act. Corollaries of restrictions on Second Amendment rights are usually ignored or dismissed.

I'm rather annoyed that my vote is neutralized by the first clueless idiot who thinks s/he has a "right" to an Obamaphone and EBT card, doesn't understand how our government functions (even under the three-ring circus analogy popularized by Schoolhouse Rock), etc. but apparently my views don't comport with today's "enlightened" understanding of "Equal Protection".

[RblDiver]

I wish the same civics test used for naturalization could be used as prerequisite for exercising voting privileges but there'd be strong opposition from the same folks who want to issue drivers licenses to illegal undocumented immigrants residents.
I understand what you're saying, but remember up in Oregon (among the strong blue states), they just voted AGAINST issuing licenses to illegals by a pretty strong margin (like 2/3 said no or something iirc). So it seems like it's more leadership that's against it rather than the actual people.


The usual arguments are 1) tests were used during Jim Crow to try to keep blacks from voting so any new test proposal is automatically racist and suspect and 2) voting is an unrestricted right granted by the Constitution and cannot be restricted by simple legislative act.
That's just it, I was curious and started going through the Constitution. The only things I see about voting are: can't discriminate based on race, color, previous condition of servitude (Amendment 15), can't discriminate based on sex (Amendment 19), can't limit based on poll tax or other tax (Amendment 24), and can't discriminate based on age so long as you're over 18 (Amendment 26).

The only other applicable one I see is Amendment 14, which says "...when the right to vote at any election...is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State." So it sounds like if you disbarred half of your voters (technically male, probably they'd count female now too) for being too stupid, then you'd qualify for about half as many representatives, but you CAN discriminate based on intelligence.

[Ed_S]

Forgot to mention that my wife took her citizenship test on the same day as me and also got 100%.

At our huge ceremony of 21 (http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/maine-news/acadia-welcomes-21-new-citizens/) our son who was born in PA led the Pledge of Allegiance. Pretty awesome day for us!