Rimfire Can Questions

[boomerhc9]

I've been throwing this idea around for at least 2 years. my dilema, is get the ar lower first, or the can first? chad4000 pretty much summed up my feelings as of late.

not to hijack, but will a .22 be as quiet with a .223 can as with a .22 can?

new plan: can, save, lower, save, build, save, shoot!

[boomerhc9]

more importantly, will a 5.56 round fire ok out of a .223 without baffle strikes, which I've read are very dangerous?

[Great-Kazoo]

more importantly, will a 5.56 round fire ok out of a .223 without baffle strikes, which I've read are very dangerous?


???? You have to stop going to what ever gun shop you've been going to.

[The Rat]

Don't shoot .22 out of a .223/5.56 can, the lead will build up over time. Get a dedicated .22 can that can disassemble for cleaning like the Spectre II if you want to shoot canned .22.

[Hound]

+1 Spot on. It is incredible how much crap come out of .22lr rounds.


Don't shoot .22 out of a .223/5.56 can, the lead will build up over time. Get a dedicated .22 can that can disassemble for cleaning like the Spectre II if you want to shoot canned .22.

[Hoser]

Don't shoot .22 out of a .223/5.56 can, the lead will build up over time. Get a dedicated .22 can that can disassemble for cleaning like the Spectre II if you want to shoot canned .22.

That said, I have shot thousands of rounds of 22 through my Shark 308 Ti can. All of it lead ammo and not copper plated ammo which in theory should be dirtier. It gained only a few grams of weight and still functioned just fine shooting full power centerfire ammo through it.

And yes I did this just because I heard all the internet chatter about how bad it is, but nobody had actually tried it and documented any of their findings.

Yes 22 ammo is dirty due to the very low pressures involved. Be smart and be sure there isnt any build up that will cause a baffle strike and you will be fine.

[Alpha2]

A can won't know the difference between 5.56 and .223, 'cause, well, there isn't a difference. Same boolit.

[Circuits]

A can won't know the difference between 5.56 and .223, 'cause, well, there isn't a difference. Same boolit.
Pretty close, usually.

The grain of truth to the internet rumor is that a common "5.56 round", the M855 and its M856 tracer brother, may not stabilize out of older guns with a 1x12 rifling twist, such as original Colt SP1 rifles and anything made from an original M16 or M16A1 demiled parts kit. If the bullet's not stable, it can be dangerous to fire it through a suppressor for fear of a baffle strike. A baffle strike can range from an annoyance that erodes away the edges of your baffles like little kids nibbling their way around the edges of cookies, to a full-on catastrophic collision that rips your suppressor open and spills its guts out like a semi driving over a banana.

With .223/5.56 the suppressor issue is stabilization, not bore pressure or cartridge specification.

The other way around, firing .223 or 5.56 through a 22lr can is a pressure issue, because the rimfire suppressor isn't made to handle the gas pressures of the rifle round, and may pop apart like putting a firecracker in a soda can.

[XC700116]

Easy solution if you're nutted up about cleaning the can is to get a user serviceable 223 can. Like a Lane, or Liberty Constitution.

Personally after seeing Hoser's test and talking to him about it. I bought a dedicated 22 can Just because I was planning on it anyway and I didn't want to deal with thread adapters, and or re-threading all my rimfire stuff. But unlike all the internet gospel I did buy a Thunderbeast 22L because it's light, wicked quiet, and I can throw it in the dip to clean it because it's Titanium. Yeah it's a sealed unit, and you can't take it apart, but I've shot their demo can that had an assload of rounds through it, and it's still damn quiet and it's not that much heavier. Plus, they'll clean it for you if you need.

[Great-Kazoo]

Easy solution if you're nutted up about cleaning the can is to get a user serviceable 223 can. Like a Lane, or Liberty Constitution.

Personally after seeing Hoser's test and talking to him about it. I bought a dedicated 22 can Just because I was planning on it anyway and I didn't want to deal with thread adapters, and or re-threading all my rimfire stuff. But unlike all the internet gospel I did buy a Thunderbeast 22L because it's light, wicked quiet, and I can throw it in the dip to clean it because it's Titanium. Yeah it's a sealed unit, and you can't take it apart, but I've shot their demo can that had an assload of rounds through it, and it's still damn quiet and it's not that much heavier. Plus, they'll clean it for you if you need.

The TBA 22 is also 22mag rated.

[boomerhc9]

whoa! ok, thread disapeared. I'm looking at the price of the warlock2 on silencershops web site, and the price is pretty tempting for a starter can, but does that mean it's probably a crappy can?

Other than picking an alright one in time to get one at these great prices, the biggest hurdle for me is the process. I've looked it up, here in the springs it's ok to own one. How do I go about ordering? Find an ffl dealer first and fill out paper work, or order the can online, then talk to an ffl. Or pay for the tax stamp first?

Thanks guys!

[driver]

whoa! ok, thread disapeared. I'm looking at the price of the warlock2 on silencershops web site, and the price is pretty tempting for a starter can, but does that mean it's probably a crappy can?

Other than picking an alright one in time to get one at these great prices, the biggest hurdle for me is the process. I've looked it up, here in the springs it's ok to own one. How do I go about ordering? Find an ffl dealer first and fill out paper work, or order the can online, then talk to an ffl. Or pay for the tax stamp first?

Thanks guys!

I just ordered my first one from silencer shop last week. If you look for silencer shop's channel on you tube they have a video walking you through their order process. I have a trust and ordered the can and had them do all the filing. They will ship it to a shop close to you, to pick it up when approved. I'm a NFA noob so someone will probably chime in since it doesn't sound like you have a trust.

[Great-Kazoo]

whoa! ok, thread disapeared. I'm looking at the price of the warlock2 on silencershops web site, and the price is pretty tempting for a starter can, but does that mean it's probably a crappy can?

Other than picking an alright one in time to get one at these great prices, the biggest hurdle for me is the process. I've looked it up, here in the springs it's ok to own one. How do I go about ordering? Find an ffl dealer first and fill out paper work, or order the can online, then talk to an ffl. Or pay for the tax stamp first?

Thanks guys!

Price point really doesn't matter with 22 cans. IMO it seems the 22's have been lowered to a point they are like lead in's at grocery stores. The vendor / mfg hopes the money you save on a 22 unit, will have you invest in a centerfire can. For A Few Dollars More ;)

[driver]

^ this is true. A pilot 2 for $260 with a $200 credit that will go towards a brake out comp for a center fire can. That's more sales for them and a $60 .22 can for me.