View Full Version : UNCONSCIOUS PROFILING / DOJ Interference
Great-Kazoo
12-07-2014, 17:14
[Train]
http://nypost.com/2014/12/07/eric-holder-believes-all-cops-are-racists-targets-unconscious-bias/
Social psychologist Lorie Fridell is credited with pioneering the “unconscious bias” theory in policing. She developed her “Fair and Impartial Policing (http://fairandimpartialpolicing.com/people/fridell.html)” program with generous grants from Holder’s department and has trained officers in more than 250 precincts and agencies across the country, including Seattle’
Like Holder, Fridell wants to ban all criminal profiling that takes a suspect’s race into account. She believes legal definitions of unlawful discrimination are “outdated” and should be broadened to include even unquantifiable prejudice against people of color that occurs “outside our conscious awareness.”
While she admits the link between blacks and crime is statistically strong — African-Americans commit 53% of all murders and are 10 times more likely to commit violent crimes than whites — she trains cops to resist that “stereotype.”
“Biased policing,” Justice explained in its findings letter to the Seattle PD, “is not primarily about the ill-intentioned officer but rather the officer who engages in discriminatory practices subconsciously,” adding that even a well-meaning cop can violate the civil rights of black suspects by operating “on implicit biases that impact that officer’s behavior or perceptions.”
Do they even know what 'profiling' means or what it's true purpose is?
Big John
12-07-2014, 17:51
Do they even know what 'profiling' means or what it's true purpose is?They know... The truth doesn't fit their agenda.
wctriumph
12-07-2014, 18:16
Who that hell are these people and how the FUCK are they even allowed to get near our (tax payers) money? Its a good thing that Denver just won or my head would explode.
The corruption runs so deep in our political system that it may take some blood on both sides to set it right. Probably not in my lifetime but unless the "mob" gets it's act together soon, this will be one royally fucked up country.
TEA
III
SideShow Bob
12-07-2014, 18:29
What do you mean "will be one royally fucked up country." It already is !
wctriumph
12-07-2014, 18:36
It is not completely off the rails yet but it won't take much to take it over the edge and into anarchy and terror.
buffalobo
12-07-2014, 18:55
Fundamentally change America...
KestrelBike
12-07-2014, 19:21
Dress aggressive, get treated aggressive?
Who that hell are these people and how the FUCK are they even allowed to get near our (tax payers) money? Its a good thing that Denver just won or my head would explode.
The corruption runs so deep in our political system that it may take some blood on both sides to set it right. Probably not in my lifetime but unless the "mob" gets it's act together soon, this will be one royally fucked up country.
TEA
III
LOL
There are people on this board who voted for those people, hope they're happy, it only gets worse from here.
Great-Kazoo
12-07-2014, 21:16
LOL
There are people on this board who voted for those people, hope they're happy, it only gets worse from here.
They avoid threads where facts counter the belief, hopefully.
They avoid threads where facts counter the belief, hopefully.
They must avoid them because they certainly aren't learning anything.
This "unconscious bias" implies that babies are racist which I think is just silly. I know hadji/holder are racist, anyone with their eyes open can see it, fridell is just another "white guilt" idiot. This administration is trying to get a race war going, they'll fail but idiots on both sides will get hurt.
SamuraiCO
12-08-2014, 09:31
And the police unions continue to support Dems. When will the rank and file learn their problems are being caused by those they elect to represent their best interests.
They avoid threads where facts counter the belief, hopefully.
Your beliefs fit your agenda and are hypocritical at best. Profiling....great idea, unless it comes to us gun owners right? What if they profiled those of us who are on record for owning firearms....especially NFA? I mean 100% of firearm owners commit 100% of firearm related crime obtained legally or not. You would go apeshit if the goverment violated your rights by singling you out for your purchases. What if the goverment started profiling those who made anti-govt remarks on websites as subversive? How about making white kids go through metal detectors as they go into schools seeing how they are most likely to go crazy and shoot up the place. Again, everyone would be in an uproar. What if police depts or the military started profiling their members based on a composite makeup of who are against anti firearm restrictions? When I worked loss prevention at few different dept stores one common theme stuck out....everybody steals and to focus on one group in particular will narrow your focus. It was not policing, but taught me some valuable lessons on focusing on any one group ( aside from the fact that it against our rights as Americans ). We want the right to assemble in front of the capital to stand up for our 2A rights but are ready to oppose anyone else who exercises the same constitutionally guaranteed protections. We stand for the constitution, not just the parts we like.
SuperiorDG
12-08-2014, 10:18
So the cops are now being profiled as unconscious profilers?
Just building the case of "We need to remove local law enforcement and use a federal agency.".
muddywings
12-08-2014, 11:10
PhDs who write this stuff need to put down their nerd glasses, go through LEO training, put on a vest, strap a pistol to their hips and work the midnight shift for 6 months in a major urban area. Then from the perspective of someone who has been there/done that, rewrite that drivel to say, 'thank you police for doing a thankless job, have a nice day.'
Great-Kazoo
12-08-2014, 11:22
PhDs who write this stuff need to put down their nerd glasses, go through LEO training, put on a vest, strap a pistol to their hips and work the midnight shift for 6 months in a major urban area. Then from the perspective of someone who has been there/done that, rewrite that drivel to say, 'thank you police for doing a thankless job, have a nice day.'
Agreed. Had mark Furman said Under Oath. You show me a street cop who has not use a derogatory term when describing a suspect, I'll show you a liar. INSTEAD of saying I never used the N word, OJ would have been convicted.
Great-Kazoo
12-08-2014, 11:28
Your beliefs fit your agenda and are hypocritical at best. Profiling....great idea, unless it comes to us gun owners right? What if they profiled those of us who are on record for owning firearms....especially NFA? I mean 100% of firearm owners commit 100% of firearm related crime obtained legally or not. You would go apeshit if the goverment violated your rights by singling you out for your purchases. What if the goverment started profiling those who made anti-govt remarks on websites as subversive? How about making white kids go through metal detectors as they go into schools seeing how they are most likely to go crazy and shoot up the place. Again, everyone would be in an uproar. What if police depts or the military started profiling their members based on a composite makeup of who are against anti firearm restrictions? When I worked loss prevention at few different dept stores one common theme stuck out....everybody steals and to focus on one group in particular will narrow your focus. It was not policing, but taught me some valuable lessons on focusing on any one group ( aside from the fact that it against our rights as Americans ). We want the right to assemble in front of the capital to stand up for our 2A rights but are ready to oppose anyone else who exercises the same constitutionally guaranteed protections. We stand for the constitution, not just the parts we like.
PLEASE spar me the BS. I have been profiled countless times because of skin color in the 70's & 80's. Couldn't go 1/2 mile without being pulled over, just because they wanted to "talk" to me AND w/out permission start ripping my vehicle apart.
As for gun owners being profiled... WE ARE and have been since the late 80's. The countless Anti-Gun groups pigeon hole us as unstable extremist who own Assault weapons with ARSENALS of guns & ammo.
http://www.livescience.com/28617-prescription-meds-gun-control.html
The safe act also allows for gun Confiscation when A person in the medical field feels a gun owner may posses a threat, Based on their Opinion. Not facts but OPINION.
http://www.socialjusticesolutions.org/2013/02/11/nys-safe-act-mental-health-reporting-requirement/
If the individual possesses a gun, the license will be suspended and law enforcement will be authorized to remove the person’s firearm (or the individual may be prevented from obtaining one in the future). This change is currently scheduled to take effect on March 16, 2013 which is 60 days from the date the legislation was signed into law.
There are laws in CA CT, MA and IIRC MD that allow for removal of firearms.
PLEASE spar me the BS. I have been profiled countless times because of skin color in the 70's & 80's. Couldn't go 1/2 mile without being pulled over, just because they wanted to "talk" to me AND w/out permission start ripping my vehicle apart.
As for gun owners being profiled... WE ARE and have been since the late 80's. The countless Anti-Gun groups pigeon hole us as unstable extremist who own Assault weapons with ARSENALS of guns & ammo.
http://www.livescience.com/28617-prescription-meds-gun-control.html
The safe act also allows for gun Confiscation when A person in the medical field feels a gun owner may posses a threat, Based on their Opinion. Not facts but OPINION.
http://www.socialjusticesolutions.org/2013/02/11/nys-safe-act-mental-health-reporting-requirement/
If the individual possesses a gun, the license will be suspended and law enforcement will be authorized to remove the person’s firearm (or the individual may be prevented from obtaining one in the future). This change is currently scheduled to take effect on March 16, 2013 which is 60 days from the date the legislation was signed into law.
There are laws in CA CT, MA and IIRC MD that allow for removal of firearms.
So in essence, you are agreeing with everything I said.
INSTEAD of saying I never used the N word, OJ would have been convicted.
I disagree with that conclusion. That trial was lost long before the first witness testified. Certainly by the time the jury was empaneled there was little hope for a conviction. The judge and prosecutors primped and preened for those cameras in a most disgusting fashion.
The verdict however was not followed with weeks of burning and looting in any neighborhoods that I am aware of.
Profiling and discrimination are not in and of themselves inherently wrong. If we did not discriminate between colors, no one would stop at red lights. If there were no profiles, we would never be able to narrow down thousands of qualified applicants to arrive at a more manageable pool of well qualified applicants.
When we profile and discriminate, using overly broad or meaningless criteria, or misuse the techniques to skew results away from the intended outcome; good employees or equal justice, then we do everyone, including ourselves a disservice. We get mediocre or poor employees or miscarriages of justice.
No one is perfect, No not one of us. To expect perfection in any human system is naive. Strive always to do your best and learn to live with the 70% solution. More than 70% and you begin fighting against diminishing returns.
Be safe.
68Charger
12-08-2014, 12:02
program with generous grants from Holder’s department
Honestly, this is the part that really pisses me off. "generous"?
wctriumph
12-08-2014, 12:04
So, I guess in the end, what "they" really want to eliminate diversity. Right?
Great-Kazoo
12-08-2014, 12:07
So, I guess in the end, what "they" really want to eliminate diversity. Right?
Only if it goes against their thought process, so yes they do.
Ignore all crime statistics!
Better policing through ignorance!
http://www.nealo.com/blog/wp-content/or041508-small.gif
Which of these profiles is racist:
Young, white male, hat on crooked, pants half off, last seen running away from the mugging with the lady's purse.
Young, black male, hat on crooked, pants half off, last seen running away from the mugging with the lady's purse.
Ignore all crime statistics!
Better policing through ignorance!
http://www.nealo.com/blog/wp-content/or041508-small.gif
That cop looks like most cops that over react and kill people. Just to be fair.
68Charger
12-08-2014, 16:59
That cop looks like most cops that over react and kill people. Just to be fair.
so you're saying we need to get perps to stop profiling the police?
Yep. Where's my "Quotas Matter!" sign?
Which of these profiles is racist:
Young, white male, hat on crooked, pants half off, last seen running away from the mugging with the lady's purse.
Young, black male, hat on crooked, pants half off, last seen running away from the mugging with the lady's purse.
What description did the lady whose purse was stolen provide? Were there any other witnesses to the purse snatching? What description did they provide? Can I hold both the white male and black male for a short time and have the witnesses/victim do a show up within a short time after the crime took place?
What description did the lady whose purse was stolen provide? Were there any other witnesses to the purse snatching? What description did they provide? Can I hold both the white male and black male for a short time and have the witnesses/victim do a show up within a short time after the crime took place?
Yup, way more to a profile than the pittance I offered.
What description did the lady whose purse was stolen provide? Were there any other witnesses to the purse snatching? What description did they provide? Can I hold both the white male and black male for a short time and have the witnesses/victim do a show up within a short time after the crime took place?
Maybe it was Justin Bieber
Maybe it was Justin Bieber
Medical excuse...He has Bieber fever.
Great-Kazoo
12-09-2014, 10:22
OOPS, No issues with race inside the DOJ
http://theweek.com/article/index/273262/speedreads-federal-officials-lectured-people-in-ferguson-about-white-privilege
Audrey Watson, a community resident, said federal officials organized attendees into small groups and asked questions such as "What stereotypes exist in our community?" "How does white privilege impact race relations in our community?" and, "Is there a need for personal commitment to race relations?"
OOPS, No issues with race inside the DOJ
http://theweek.com/article/index/273262/speedreads-federal-officials-lectured-people-in-ferguson-about-white-privilege
Audrey Watson, a community resident, said federal officials organized attendees into small groups and asked questions such as "What stereotypes exist in our community?" "How does white privilege impact race relations in our community?" and, "Is there a need for personal commitment to race relations?"
White privilege, what a load of horseshit!! What kind of imbecile makes this crap up, furthermore, what kind of ignorant, stupid, fuckstain buys into it?
muddywings
12-09-2014, 20:04
http://youtu.be/l4h_2vBVwUA
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sabot_round
12-09-2014, 21:53
Holder is a [pileoshit]. He's as racist as they come. Him and al sharpton should get married. [fags]
E.T.A. Maybe they should have a threesome with jesse jackson.
Holder is a [pileoshit]. He's as racist as they come. Him and al sharpton should get married. [fags]
E.T.A. Maybe they should have a threesome with jesse jackson.
...and celebrate by skydiving sans parachutes
sabot_round
12-09-2014, 23:37
...and celebrate by skydiving sans parachutes
With a bag of 10 grit dildos.
Great-Kazoo
12-10-2014, 01:37
With a bag of 10 grit dildos.
Paper, or Plastic
Paper, or Plastic
Not it sure how you take your rough dildos, but most places sell them in plastic. Paper can cause...well...cuts.
Great-Kazoo
12-10-2014, 09:25
Not it sure how you take your rough dildos, but most places sell them in plastic. Paper can cause...well...cuts.
THE BAG, THE BAG they come in !! Forget when they use to ask that at stores?
Today you have to bring your own eco-friendly bag or pay the city tax for any bags the store provides [Flower]
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