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buffalobo
12-24-2014, 09:55
Post up Christmas stuff.

Plans, well wishes, funny stories, touching stories, rants.

One of my favorites.


DIARY OF A SNOW SHOVELER

December 8 - 6:00 PM

It started snowing.  The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktail drinks and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven.  It looked like a Grandma Moses Print.  So romantic we felt like newlyweds again.  We love snow!

December 9

We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape.  What a fantastic sight!  Can there be a more lovely place in the whole world?  Moving here was the best idea I've ever had! Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a little boy again.  I cleared both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplough came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life!

December 12

The sun has melted all our lovely snow... Such a disappointment!  My neighbor tells me not to worry - we'll definitely have a White Christmas.

No snow on Christmas would be awful!  Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again.  I don't think that's possible.  However, Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.

December 13

Snow, lovely snow! 8 inches last night. The temperature dropped to -20F. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplough came back this afternoon and buried everything again.. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish I wouldn't huff and puff so.

December 15

20 inches forecast for today.  I sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer.  Bought snow tyres for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels.  We stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out.  I think that's extravagant. We aren't in Alaska, after all.

December 16

Ice storm this morning.  Fell on my butt on the ice in the driveway putting down salt.  Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, which I think was very cruel.

December 17

Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere.

Today the electricity was off for 4 hours.  We had to pile the blankets on to stay warm.  Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her.  Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her.  Gee I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.

December 20

Yippee the electricity's back on, but we had another 14 inches of the damn stuff last night.  More shoveling!  Took all day. The damn snowplough came by twice.  Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey.  I think they're lying.  Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow blower and they're out.  Might have another shipment in March.  I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

December 22

Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white stuff fell today, and it's so cold, it probably won't melt till August.  Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to go to the loo.  By the time I got undressed, and dressed again, I was too tired to shovel.  Tried to hire Bob who has a plough on his truck for the rest of the winter, but he says he's too busy.  I think the asshole is lying.

December 23

Only 2 inches of snow today.  And it warmed up to zero.  The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning.  What is she, nuts?!!  Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago?  She says she did but I think she's lying.

December 24

6 inches fell, but the snow was packed so hard by the snowplough, I broke my shovel.  Thought I was having a heart attack.  If I ever catch the son-of-a-bitch who drives that snowplough, I'll drag him through the snow by his hair and beat him to death with my broken shovel.  I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been!  Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplough.


December 25 - Christmas Day

Merry Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight - Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil.  God, I hate the snow!  Then the snowplough driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude.  I think she's a real idiot.  If I have to watch "It's A Wonderful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.

December 26

Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

December 27

Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze; plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me $1,750 to replace 4 of my pipes.

December 28

Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. The BITCH is driving me crazy!!!

December 29

10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in.  That's the silliest thing I ever heard.  How dumb does he think I am? 

December 30

Roof caved in.  I beat up the snowplough driver, and now he is suing me for a million dollars, not only the beating I gave him, but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass.  The wife went home to her mother.  Nine more inches predicted.

December 31

I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

January 8

Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed???

TFOGGER
12-24-2014, 10:01
http://youtu.be/XemOaKUVBpU

ray1970
12-24-2014, 10:11
For those of you I know and like, I want to wish you and your families a very Merry Christmas.

For those of you I think are ass clowns, may your children grow up to be illiterate.

Happy holidays.
[Beer]

Pistol Packing Preacher
12-24-2014, 10:12
Merry Christmas to all!

Graves
12-24-2014, 10:17
Ibjimmakesitaboutrace

ray1970
12-24-2014, 10:17
For those of us who still spend Christmas surrounded by family......


http://youtu.be/HXkMaZz5Mo8

killianak9
12-24-2014, 10:41
Merry Christmas

buffalobo
12-24-2014, 10:51
Always need Christmas music.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPaKwA7838

MarkCO
12-24-2014, 10:54
Here is Patrick Kelley (more of these on his YouTube channel) using one of our .22AR uppers to bring some Christmas cheer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uko9DfBmJD0

TheGrey
12-24-2014, 11:25
Merry Christmas, everybody! I wish everyone good food, quality family-and-friend time, and enough joy to carry you into the new year. :)

GilpinGuy
12-24-2014, 11:34
Merry Christmas ya'll!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryhw9Xesm-w

StagLefty
12-24-2014, 11:40
Merry Christmas my internet peeps !!!

sellersm
12-24-2014, 11:50
Merry Christmas. "And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. (‭Luke‬ ‭2‬:‭9-11‬ NKJV)"


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Ah Pook
12-24-2014, 12:10
HAPPY CHRISMAHANUKWANZAKAH!


[HH]

BlasterBob
12-24-2014, 13:13
MERRY CHRISTMAS. Now stay healthy.

HoneyBadger
12-24-2014, 13:16
Merry Christmas, all! I hope everyone here can enjoy some time with their families and loved ones. [Beer]

TEAMRICO
12-24-2014, 13:19
Merry Christmas folks.

SuperiorDG
12-24-2014, 13:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-9fb99lsvY

GilpinGuy
12-24-2014, 13:36
HAPPY CHRISMAHANUKWANZAKAH!

Be all inclusive now....don't forget:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3S690EF2U

sniper7
12-24-2014, 14:13
Merry holidays everyone!

Bitter Clinger
12-24-2014, 15:47
http://xmasfun.com/Stories/SoldiersStory.asp

'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS,
HE LIVED ALL ALONE,
IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF
PLASTER AND STONE.
I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY
WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE,
AND TO SEE JUST WHO
IN THIS HOME DID LIVE.
I LOOKED ALL ABOUT,
A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE,
NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS,
NOT EVEN A TREE.
NO STOCKING BY MANTLE,
JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND,
ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES
OF FAR DISTANT LANDS.
WITH MEDALS AND BADGES,
AWARDS OF ALL KINDS,
A SOBER THOUGHT
CAME THROUGH MY MIND.
FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT,
IT WAS DARK AND DREARY,
I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER,
ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY.
THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING,
SILENT, ALONE,
CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR
IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME.
THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE,
THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER,
NOT HOW I PICTURED
A UNITED STATES SOLDIER.
WAS THIS THE HERO
OF WHOM I'D JUST READ?
CURLED UP ON A PONCHO,
THE FLOOR FOR A BED?
I REALIZED THE FAMILIES
THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT,
OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS
WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT.
SOON ROUND THE WORLD,
THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY,
AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE
A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY.
THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM
EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR,
BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS,
LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE.
I COULDN'T HELP WONDER
HOW MANY LAY ALONE,
ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE
IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME.
THE VERY THOUGHT
BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE,
I DROPPED TO MY KNEES
AND STARTED TO CRY.
THE SOLDIER AWAKENED
AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE,
"SANTA DON'T CRY,
THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE;
I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM,
I DON'T ASK FOR MORE,
MY LIFE IS MY GOD,
MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS."
THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER
AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP,
I COULDN'T CONTROL IT,
I CONTINUED TO WEEP.
I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS,
SO SILENT AND STILL
AND WE BOTH SHIVERED
FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL.
I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE
ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT,
THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR
SO WILLING TO FIGHT.
THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER,
WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE,
WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA,
IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE."
ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH,
AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT.
"MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND,
AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT."
This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following
is his request:
PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as
you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S.
service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities.
Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people
stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrifice themselves for
us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed.
Joseph

wctriumph
12-24-2014, 16:40
Less that 1.5 hours to go and I am off until Friday.

Merry Christmas everyone. Have a great day tomorrow and stay safe.

Great-Kazoo
12-24-2014, 19:27
Ibjimmakesitaboutrace

Get real. This one's for you, based on that nice pm you sent me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9URPvejWHk

KestrelBike
12-24-2014, 19:32
I hope I'm on Ray's nice list! Merry Christmas y'all!

Skully
12-24-2014, 19:42
So is the official thread for; "Hey to all my Colorado AR Shooters club members whom I know or dont know, or to whom I like or dislike.(You can have it as well.)

HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!


[Beer]

jerrymrc
12-24-2014, 20:50
Have a Merry Christmas and please remember this IS a family site.......[Flower]

bryjcom
12-24-2014, 20:52
NORAD is taking calls right now from children letting them know where Santa currently is...

My kids just got done talking to someone over at the NORAD Santa tracking center

1-877 HI- NORAD.



I also heard Moochelle Obama is taking calls as well. You might get lucky and get to chat her up!!

Dave
12-24-2014, 21:12
NORAD is taking calls right now from children letting them know where Santa currently is...

My kids just got done talking to someone over at the NORAD Santa tracking center

1-877 HI- NORAD.



I also heard Moochelle Obama is taking calls as well. You might get lucky and get to chat her up!!

www.noradsanta.org

bryjcom
12-24-2014, 21:27
Yeah, but its more fun to talk to someone who can answer questions about Santa. Apparently Santa's favorite cookie is the sugar cookie.

It was pretty cool to put NORAD on speaker phone and have someone answer all your kids questions!

Marlin
12-24-2014, 21:42
Merry Christmas people.

Circuits
12-24-2014, 22:16
Merry Christmas!
Happy Xmas!
Felicitous Kwanzaa!
Hope you had a great Channuka!
Merry and well-met Yule!
<add whatever i missed here>

...
For the bottles are cold, dark and deep,
and I've many to drink before I sleep
....

Graves
12-24-2014, 22:28
Merry chanukah!!

Mick-Boy
12-24-2014, 22:52
http://www.npr.org/2014/12/19/371647099/norads-santa-tracker-began-with-a-typo-and-a-good-sport

Pretty neat story about something that's become a Christmas tradition.

ETA - Since it's past 0900 over here, Merry Christmas boys and girls.

Great-Kazoo
12-24-2014, 23:04
Not everyone is Home for Christmas. Remember those who are not as well celebrate the holidays, Thank You


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D-OL-KQOt4

buckshotbarlow
12-24-2014, 23:09
merry xmas all

TFOGGER
12-24-2014, 23:39
http://www.npr.org/2014/12/19/371647099/norads-santa-tracker-began-with-a-typo-and-a-good-sport

Pretty neat story about something that's become a Christmas tradition.

ETA - Since it's past 0900 over here, Merry Christmas boys and girls.

Merry Christmas! Stay safe!

Ripper
12-25-2014, 12:20
Merry Christmas All!

Big John
12-25-2014, 12:38
Merry Christmas!

BushMasterBoy
12-25-2014, 12:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jIS_LxVFw

Dave
12-25-2014, 13:52
Merry Christmas everyone!

[HH]

Gman
12-25-2014, 15:43
Merry Christmas Folks!

mcantar18c
12-25-2014, 17:53
Merry Christmas y'all!

ray1970
12-25-2014, 18:56
Just got home from Brush, CO. Things are getting pretty slippery out there. Those of you who have to be out on the roads (especially the highways) be safe. I saw four or five vehicles off in the ditch and the median on I-76 just between Keenesburg and Brighton.

Merry Christmas and be safe.

Mazin
12-25-2014, 19:00
Merry Christmas All! Like Ray said be safe it's getting slick.

SideShow Bob
12-25-2014, 19:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jIS_LxVFw

I'm sure this will rank right up there with MB888's Happy Birthday Ginsue video.......

WillysWagon
12-25-2014, 20:34
Merry Christmas everyone !!

ray1970
12-24-2015, 09:38
Bumping this up instead of starting a new thread.

Got an email from Apex Gun Parts today and thought the picture was kind of bad ass so just wanted to share it.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/24/c75a71a47ad910c34c47fbbf1af81de0.jpg

TFOGGER
12-24-2015, 10:34
http://youtu.be/rW6nyN1bf8g?list=PLSQeeC_3RNZ_zHy7-TmioCakl72y-Y_Sy

For your listening pleasure...

Merry Christmas, my friends!

Jeffrey Lebowski
12-24-2015, 10:46
Here is Patrick Kelley (more of these on his YouTube channel) using one of our .22AR uppers to bring some Christmas cheer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uko9DfBmJD0

Must have missed last year, but I enjoyed this. [Beer] Merry Christmas eve, all. :)

sniper_tim
12-24-2015, 11:54
Merry Christmas and God bless our troops.

TFOGGER
12-24-2015, 12:02
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1935387_10154375297334881_6716427827806191734_n.jp g?oh=a0de0997f23c049a0b4c92b6f1e7a775&oe=5713F179

sellersm
12-24-2015, 12:13
One of my favorite songs to sing this time of year: O Holy Night


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdkuIMgIIjg

theGinsue
12-24-2015, 13:09
The staff of the Colorado AR-15 Shooters Forum would like to wish you all a very happy and glorious Christmas.

In this season it's easy to get pulled into all of the hype of the commercialism of this time of year. Those of you who are of the Christian faith don't need me to explain what this season is truly about. For those of you who don't share this faith, I ask that you keep in mind that the true meaning of Christmas is based on Love, Giving, and Hope. One doesn't need to possess a religious faith to embrace these things.

With all of the hatred and violence we see in our world today it's easy to lose site of hope. I assure you that it is always present. This site is an excellent example of that. Here, on this forum, we have created a community that truly cares for each other. Many folks find this time of year especially difficult. If you're one of those people, I ask that you reach out to one of your brothers or sisters on this site.

While things seem darker than ever in our world, I ask that you all recognize the love we have here and know that the world isn't so dark after all. Please share this love with others; your friends and family, but especially those strangers that you meet. What a wonderful world this could be if we all took the spirit of Christmas with us throughout the year and shared it with all those we meet.

With this said, may you all, and your families, have a joyous and most merry Christmas and may you all experience the blessings of Love, Giving and Hope!

killianak9
12-24-2015, 14:03
Merry Christmas [emoji631]

brutal
12-24-2015, 14:13
Merry Christmas to all!

BPTactical
12-24-2015, 15:08
For those of you I know and like, I want to wish you and your families a very Merry Christmas.

For those of you I think are ass clowns, may your children grow up to be illiterate.

Happy holidays.
[Beer]

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Great-Kazoo
12-24-2015, 16:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAR9rZBBrhM

wctriumph
12-24-2015, 16:59
Merry Christmas and may the blessings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ be on you all.

[Snow][HH]

Invader zim
12-24-2015, 17:39
Merry Christmas everyone. I've learned a lot from you guys over the time I've been here. I wish you all the best in the coming year.

DireWolf
12-24-2015, 17:44
Merry Christmas to all!

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Hummer
12-24-2015, 18:03
Merry Christmas to all the good folks here at CO-AR15!

Best Wishes to you and your family for good health and happiness in the new year.

Here are a couple images from the Hummer House on this Christmas Eve.

Cheers!


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Christmas-tree-2015_zpsrvrh0szo.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Christmas-tree-2015_zpsrvrh0szo.jpg.html)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Christmas-Eve-morning-2015_zpsou3pybjh.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Christmas-Eve-morning-2015_zpsou3pybjh.jpg.html)

GilpinGuy
12-24-2015, 19:12
Merry Christmas, you sarcastic bastards. [Snow]

02ducky
12-24-2015, 19:20
Merry Christmas everyone.

Gman
12-24-2015, 19:52
Merry Christmas...again!!!!

sroz
12-24-2015, 22:01
Merry Christmas to all.

Dave
12-24-2015, 22:03
Merry Christmas everyone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CojUP5nRidA

Double00
12-24-2015, 22:30
Merry Christmas. I hope everyone got their packages on time. I delivered everything on my truck.

BushMasterBoy
12-24-2015, 22:40
I saw a Christmas Eve eagle soaring today! Sorry no pics, it was too far away!

beast556
12-24-2015, 22:42
Merry Christmas from the beast556 family, hope you all have a great and safe Christmas.

BPTactical
12-24-2015, 22:44
Merry Christmas to all the good folks here at CO-AR15!

Best Wishes to you and your family for good health and happiness in the new year.

Here are a couple images from the Hummer House on this Christmas Eve.

Cheers!


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Christmas-tree-2015_zpsrvrh0szo.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Christmas-tree-2015_zpsrvrh0szo.jpg.html)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Christmas-Eve-morning-2015_zpsou3pybjh.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Christmas-Eve-morning-2015_zpsou3pybjh.jpg.html)



The second pic is epic, truly gorgeous.

TheGrey
12-24-2015, 23:06
Merry, merry Christmas, my friends!

hurley842002
12-24-2015, 23:06
The second pic is epic, truly gorgeous.

Completely agree, love that part of the state.

Merry Christmas everyone!

ray1970
12-25-2015, 01:10
Officially December 25th so Merry Christmas everyone.
[Beer]

theGinsue
12-25-2015, 01:15
If you don't go to bed Santa won't come. Go to bed!

2112
12-25-2015, 01:24
Merry Christmas!!

Mazin
12-25-2015, 02:30
Merry Christmas!

jerrymrc
12-25-2015, 06:25
Merry Christmas my friends. Hope everyone has a great one.[Flower]

WillysWagon
12-25-2015, 08:13
Merry Christmas !!!

osok-308
12-25-2015, 08:45
Merry Christmas guys!

bellavite1
12-25-2015, 08:50
Merry Christmas!
(Obviously not my thing, but if that is your beliefs, I am happy for you. Seriously.)
[Beer]

StagLefty
12-25-2015, 08:57
Merry Christmas everyone. You too Bellavite1 ! [Sarcasm2]

OtterbatHellcat
12-25-2015, 08:59
Merry Christmas COAR 15

[Beer]

ray1970
12-25-2015, 09:00
You too Bellavite1 !

That's just mean.
[Coffee]

blacklabel
12-25-2015, 09:11
Merry Christmas everyone. The kid finally woke up so I think we're going to tear into presents soon. I think I'm more excited than he is.

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buffalobo
12-25-2015, 09:14
Joint is hoppin this morning.[emoji106]

Merry Christmas all.

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bellavite1
12-25-2015, 09:32
That's just mean.
[Coffee]
I'll be ok... [emoji14] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151225/134bb055796a9aebaf706a6fa455ac3e.jpg

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sniper7
12-25-2015, 10:44
Lol at the obligatory foot in the pic!

TFOGGER
12-25-2015, 11:23
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/1275010_10204108672597570_1412186546717493495_o.jp g

buffalobo
12-25-2015, 11:36
http://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/1275010_10204108672597570_1412186546717493495_o.jp g
Haha, very well played.[emoji482]

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Ripper
12-25-2015, 12:19
Merry Christmas all!

Limited GM
12-25-2015, 12:48
Merry Christmas everyone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CojUP5nRidA

This. Merry Christmas to all.

sabot_round
12-25-2015, 12:55
Merry Christmas to y'all!!

asmo
12-25-2015, 19:17
Merry Christmas all.. Hope everyone is eating, and drinking, well this evening.

62959

RonMexico
12-25-2015, 19:36
Merry Christmas!

DSB OUTDOORS
12-25-2015, 22:09
Merry Christmas and [HH]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!