View Full Version : Spooky little moment tonight
So, on my way home from family stuff at the in laws tonight the wife and I had a slightly spooky experience. I had just stopped at a traffic light when a guy in a hooded sweatshirt came walking quickly up to the passenger side of our vehicle with his hands in the pockets on the front of his sweatshirt. He was trying to say something but I couldn't make it out. I knew there wasn't traffic coming so as he neared the vehicle I just drove away.
I don't carry a firearm. Kind of spooked me enough that I will probably really reconsider that. I would have felt better equipped to protect my wife had I been armed.
While the wife was a bit freaked out she felt kind of bad not knowing why the guy approached us the way he did. Maybe he needed help. Maybe there was some sort of medical emergency. Who knows. Or maybe he had bad intentions. She commented that it was too bad that now a days you almost can't try to help someone who may be in need for fear that maybe it isn't assistance they are seeking.
Anyhow, I either quickly left a potentially bad situation or sped away from someone in desperate need of assistance.
Looks like it's time to get the ball rolling on that carry permit.
If you were in desperate need of roadside assistance, would you quickly walk up to a stranger's vehicle with your hands in your pockets?
You did what your gut told you was the right thing. Don't second guess yourself.
So about 90 days from now you can tell us about your new CCW [Flower]
Be safe.
Glad that everyone is safe.
You would not believe how many times my wife and I move in an adverse angle (120<deg<160) when approached by people who aggressively approached us. Only happened twice so far.
When I was in Aurora, one of the gal came out of the car and said "I need a job." I don't know. Maybe I watch too much of those defense youtube footage at that time or not to contribute to this action or not, but I immediately went near the engine block standing and told her "I don't work there."
She then said, "Not job, but I need a Jump" [LOL]
Around that time (2006), I was way over cautious and maybe overly protective. [panic]
You should have bladed at 45*.
Gain wrist control, pull out your gun.
Ray...how in the heck do you not have a permit?? Or better yet, why do you not pack one in the truck? You don't need a card for that.
I don't think I'd run up with my hands in my pockets while trying to flag somebody down for help. I feel it'd be almost instinctual to have your hands out.
Gain wrist control, pull out your gun.
What gun??
It is cold out, but rapid approach with hands in pockets is not the way I would ask for help. Permit or not sounds like driving away was the right choice.
+1 on driving away. I wear my hoodie during winter (shaved head) but I ALWAYS pull it back before I enter stores, or if I'm going to engage anyone.
I don't trust people with hands in pockets.
Big John
12-25-2014, 07:02
I always carry at least one pistol and I would have still hauled ass away from this. I'm not going to let some idiot forever change my life if I can avoid it.
That said... Get a permit and/or a car gun.
GilpinGuy
12-25-2014, 07:10
I always carry at least one pistol and I would have still hauled ass away from this. I'm not going to let some idiot forever change my life if I can avoid it.
That said... Get a permit and/or a car gun.
This is right on. Avoid the confrontation to begin with, if possible.
Sounds like you acted correctly wether you carry or not. That said, I see a CCW in you future. Glad you are safe.
Don't misunderstand my post. Even if I had been armed, driving off was my best option.
The whole situation just got me to thinking about how bad stuff can happen when you least expect it and where you least expect it. If it had just been me in the vehicle I probably wouldn't have thought so much about it after it happened. The fact that my wife was with me and he was approaching her side of the vehicle was the part that bothered me. Fortunately we were in a situation where driving away was an easy option. Could have been a whole different story if that wasn't the case.
ChunkyMonkey
12-25-2014, 08:35
It probably not a big deal and is too late. I would call local PD to do welfare or general check up. Just in case.
KestrelBike
12-25-2014, 08:42
+1 on driving away. I wear my hoodie during winter (shaved head) but I ALWAYS pull it back before I enter stores, or if I'm going to engage anyone.
I don't trust people with hands in pockets.
Yup, I also take my sunglasses off
KestrelBike
12-25-2014, 08:48
That said... Get a permit and/or a car gun.
I'm on the fence about a car gun. I really like the convenience of it, but I dread the possibility of some a-hole randomly breaking into my car and finding it (the usefulness of it is severely diminished if you make it difficult to grab in an instant, by making it inaccessible by thoroughly hiding it or locking it away)
StagLefty
12-25-2014, 08:54
Suppresive fire is the only answer [Sarcasm2]
Get a CHP! We need more good guys with permits out there.
You're right, getting out of the area is always the best thing to do.
well, if you wont carry a gun, maybe your wife will get a concealed carry permit?
Lol. She doesn't like guns. Not in the way that they scare her or she doesn't want them around or any of that nonsense. Just that she has tried several times and is a horrible shot so she doesn't like shooting anything at all. Even if she got her permit we wouldn't be safe.
It probably not a big deal and is too late. I would call local PD to do welfare or general check up. Just in case.
Yeah, I probably should have called the incident in and maybe they could have sent someone to check and see what's going on. Didn't think about it at the time.
he was probably going to ask you for money for Christmas for his kids. , butane to cook his hash oil, or a light for his bong.
You probably hit the nail on the head there. My guess is that was probably the case. I'm sure the wife and I probably weren't in any actual danger but the whole thing was a little freaky none the less.
Great-Kazoo
12-25-2014, 09:19
Don't misunderstand my post. Even if I had been armed, driving off was my best option.
The whole situation just got me to thinking about how bad stuff can happen when you least expect it and where you least expect it. If it had just been me in the vehicle I probably wouldn't have thought so much about it after it happened. The fact that my wife was with me and he was approaching her side of the vehicle was the part that bothered me. Fortunately we were in a situation where driving away was an easy option. Could have been a whole different story if that wasn't the case.
By Law Driving Off / Flight was the correct option. Could you have engaged a threat? Providing it was a clear one Yes. HOWEVER the means to escape / Flight was also there and done . NEVER ENGAGE IF FLIGHT is an OPTION.
I don't care what the majority says, trust me. Taking off, even IF it meant a stops sign or red light ticket, was much cheaper than your 1st meeting with an attorney.
Yup, I also take my sunglasses off
Ditto. I like to look people in the eye.
wctriumph
12-25-2014, 09:26
No reason to second guess yourself on this one. I have done the same thing myself on two occasions in the past.
Enjoy the day with your family.
You did the right thing. At a traffic stop I always leave enough space between me and the vehicle in front in case I need to evade. It's never happened, but I have the option. Call me a pessimist, but after getting screwed over by people by me being a Good Samaritan, I treat everyone I don't know as if they have AIDS.
What gun??
It was a reference to a spoof self defense video...
...I'll go now.
If I had been in your shoes, my heart would have been pounding pretty fast. I don't know that a gun would have helped the situation. Good job on making the right choice! Have a wonderful holiday. :)
SideShow Bob
12-25-2014, 12:34
So, Ray, that was you. Thanks a lot for the help. While rushing the wife to the hospital, that unexpectantly went into labor, my car blew a tire and went into a ditch & got stuck.
I wasn't prepared for the weather due to the emergency, so I pulled my hood up and put my hands in the front pockets to stay warm.
When I saw a pick up pull up to the traffic signal, I ran up to it shouting "call an ambulance, my wife is having a baby ! "
But as I got close, the pick up roared off through a red signal nearly running my toes over........
Just joking Ray,[LOL]. You don't need a CCW to have a handgun in your car for self protection.
Big John
12-25-2014, 12:47
I'm on the fence about a car gun. I really like the convenience of it, but I dread the possibility of some a-hole randomly breaking into my car and finding it (the usefulness of it is severely diminished if you make it difficult to grab in an instant, by making it inaccessible by thoroughly hiding it or locking it away)This is why my secondary is a 380 that while I don't want stolen, it wouldn't be the end of my world either.
CCW is obviously your best bet. You don't want the your weapon in the car when some POS tries to steal your Air Jordan's in the parking lot.
Go take a SouthNarc class.
This is why my secondary is a 380 that while I don't want stolen, it wouldn't be the end of my world either.
CCW is obviously your best bet. You don't want the your weapon in the car when some POS tries to steal your Air Jordan's in the parking lot.
Sig SP2022 9mm, 3 mags, and a light is always in the vehicle I travel or am parking at DIA. It was $425.
Jeffrey Lebowski
12-25-2014, 13:28
Don't misunderstand my post. Even if I had been armed, driving off was my best option.
Yes.
Holger Danske
12-25-2014, 15:43
+1 on driving away as the best option.
beast556
12-25-2014, 15:44
Better to have and not need, rather than need and not have. There is always a j- frame with in reach 24/7.
Made a little road trip today for family holiday stuff. Loaded one of the handguns and brought it along. Just in case.
Holger Danske
12-27-2014, 17:39
When is your ccw interview?
You don't need an interview. Not in our county.
When is your ccw interview?
Like Irving said, it's not an interview. I show up, get finger printed and probably have my picture taken, turn in a two page form and some supporting documentation, then I leave. I haven't set up a day or time yet. Need to go into work on Monday and see what my schedule looks like first.
Do it Ray and I'll buy you a beer when you have the permit in hand. Meet up at Ark Tactical!
Start carrying now so you've worked through the jitters by the time your permit comes in!
HoneyBadger
12-27-2014, 20:10
Start carrying now so you've worked through the jitters by the time your permit comes in!
Yep
A lot of people like to go to Wal-mart for their virgin carry voyage. I find that if you carry at a bank, 11 months before you get your permit, by the time you walk through a Wal-mart, it'll be a breeze!
HoneyBadger
12-27-2014, 20:53
A lot of people like to go to Wal-mart for their virgin carry voyage. I find that if you carry at a bank, 11 months before you get your permit, by the time you walk through a Wal-mart, it'll be a breeze!
[facepalm][ROFL2]
Carry around your house a lot and that'll make you a lot more comfortable.
A lot of people like to go to Wal-mart for their virgin carry voyage. I find that if you carry at a bank US Post Office, 11 months before you get your permit, by the time you walk through a Wal-mart, it'll be a breeze!
FIFY
Almost forgot a small part of the equation. I need to figure out what I want to carry and how I want to carry it. [facepalm]
SideShow Bob
12-27-2014, 21:07
Start carrying now so you've worked through the jitters by the time your permit comes in!
On your own property or where you have the owner's permission to do so.
This will also give you the feel for the type/brand of holster you prefer. You'll probably go through 2-3 before you find the right one.
Just remember, you get what you pay for applies to holsters too.
SideShow Bob
12-27-2014, 21:12
Almost forgot a small part of the equation. I need to figure out what I want to carry and how I want to carry it. [facepalm]
A G-lock, no holster and waistband appendix carry.............. But be sure to wear a ballistic rated Kevlar cup.
HoneyBadger
12-27-2014, 21:16
Almost forgot a small part of the equation. I need to figure out what I want to carry and how I want to carry it. [facepalm]
Crossbreed supertuck. [Beer]
KestrelBike
12-27-2014, 21:27
I started with a comp tac minotaur m&p shield, never felt comfortable, switched to a Flashbang Betty and it's a night and day difference! Yes, the betty was first created with women in mind, but it's so damn comfy I don't care!
GilpinGuy
12-27-2014, 21:35
Almost forgot a small part of the equation. I need to figure out what I want to carry and how I want to carry it. [facepalm]
This a great reason (excuse) to buy a few more guns...just gotta find the right one.
Before anyone gets mad, I know Ray, and Ray knows me, and he knows I'm just joking with him, and I know he knows better than to take my sarcastic advice.
Yes, I know you guys weren't serious. [Beer]
A lot of people like to go to Wal-mart for their virgin carry voyage. I find that if you carry at a bank, 11 months before you get your permit, by the time you walk through a Wal-mart, it'll be a breeze!
Why would I practice at a bank when there's a Post Office right down the street?
(This is a joke people--don't do this)
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ETA: I was looking for this story...
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/hitchhikers-steal-car-from-good-samaritan-in-colorado-springs
[QUOTE][COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - A Colorado Springs man tells police he tried to help out two hitchhikers in cold weather but they stole his car at gunpoint./QUOTE]
Imagine a version of this that involves your family in the car.
I think you did good OP! Even with a gun on my hip, I would do the same.
Jeffrey Lebowski
12-28-2014, 20:45
Carry around your house a lot and that'll make you a lot more comfortable.
x2. And carry around the house unloaded if you are so inclined to get used to it. :)
If I may, my new holster from our very own yjsaindon is currently my favorite carry holster. Love it so far, and I have probably a dozen various carry holsters.
I've had quite a few holsters in my life so I'm somewhat familiar with what I like and don't like. I've tried three different crossbreed style holsters and find them bulky and uncomfortable. I'm going to rule out appendix carry solely because it seems like it would be uncomfortable when sitting or repeatedly sitting and standing. I've had a couple of Kramer holsters I really liked. I might see what they offer.
P-83 Wanad should make a nice, small carry. You could pick up a Remora holster and put it just about anywhere inside your waist that inconveniences you the least.
I had a P64 that I kind of liked. I hadn't given much thought to carrying anything other than a modern design.
Thanks for further complicating things. [Coffee]
Almost forgot a small part of the equation. I need to figure out what I want to carry and how I want to carry it. [facepalm]
S&W Model 629 8 3/8 in a pillow case?...[ROFL1]
S&W Model 629 8 3/8 in a pillow case?...[ROFL1]
Nah. I'd appendix carry that. You know, to impress the ladies. [Coffee]
spqrzilla
12-29-2014, 14:00
Kestrel is wearing a bra holster? [mlp]
68Charger
12-29-2014, 14:27
Had a friend wonder how I could carry with 1 in the chamber... especially at 1-2 o'clock with the barrel pointed so near my junk...
"That's what the holster is for- to cover the trigger"... he was still scared...
I went on to advise him to try carrying one around the house (in a holster) doing various activities with a snap cap in the chamber- and that he could tell if it ever 'went off' by checking the trigger... (striker fire design)
Don't know if he ever did it.. but I've been carrying that way for years and STILL had to go to a qualified Urologist to get a vasectomy.
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