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cstone
01-05-2015, 19:32
A surprisingly good piece from the New York Times relating the affects of the ACA on many of the people who championed the law. Here is the final quote from the piece and I find it telling that if you substitute the word Harvard for government, the quote actually reads like something that was used to sell the nation on the ACA in the first place.

“It seems that Harvard is trying to save money by shifting costs to sick people,” said Mary C. Waters, a professor of sociology. “I don’t understand why a university with Harvard’s incredible resources would do this. What is the crisis?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/06/us/health-care-fixes-backed-by-harvards-experts-now-roil-its-faculty.html?

mutt
01-05-2015, 19:49
Amazing how these people champion socialism for everyone else but when they have to sacrifice all of a sudden it's not fair. Considering their new plan is still way better than what most people get, they can go choke on it. About time they got to enjoy the benefits of the ACA.

jerrymrc
01-05-2015, 21:22
Yes I said it was the thing to do. Wait, Wait, ya mean it is going to affect ME! Oh hell no! Sorry, too late. They think like the Congress Critters. It wont affect ME! Now it is going to in a very small amount compared to the rest of the population and all hell breaks loose among the "ELITE"

That was he funnest thing I have read all year.[LOL]

roberth
01-05-2015, 22:01
I love it. Actions have consequences. These are the "smart" people.... LOL Jackasses.

Who did they think was going to bear the costs, Santa Claus? Where do they think the government is going to get the money for ACA from, obama's stash? Liberals are so stupid, inept, and thoughtless. They don't even know what they're voting for, even when all the facts are right there for anyone to see.

SAnd
01-05-2015, 22:02
I like this from the comments from a different article-

"Unfortunately for Harvard profs, karma is a pre-existing condition not covered by obamacare."

Great-Kazoo
01-05-2015, 22:47
Just wait till they're on the receiving end of some Gentle Giant. That will be 2 things they regretted taking a stand on.

Irving
01-05-2015, 23:21
I read the full article and laughed the entire way through. Welcome to the real world, go find a seat in the back.

cstone
01-05-2015, 23:37
I read the full article and laughed the entire way through. Welcome to the real world, go find a seat in the back.

I know right? It has become rare that I find something so interesting in the NYT that I would even bother sharing it with anyone.

These are our intelligentsia who have been advising our nation's leaders. I think most of us have had a long held belief that the Harvard elite were hypocrites when it came to dolling out advice for the rest of us; this article just brings their hypocrisy into focus. Of course they were only complaining because the policy change hurts the lower paid Harvard employees [bulls]

68Charger
01-05-2015, 23:48
Kick 'em to the exchanges... [gohome]

Irving
01-06-2015, 00:03
Of course they were only complaining because the policy change hurts the lower paid Harvard employees [bulls]

Yeah I thought the same thing. One of them said, "It's not about the money, it's the principle." Whatever. It's the principle because of the money.

cstone
01-06-2015, 01:19
Everytime I think of Harvard professors now, Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. comes to mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversy

Another teachable moment. Glad the learned men and women of Havard are being enlightened, even just a little bit.

roberth
01-06-2015, 07:50
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

These learned Harvard liberals get to put their money where their mouth is and they don't like it.

ACA is simple wealth redistribution.

TFOGGER
01-06-2015, 10:11
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/06/us/health-care-fixes-backed-by-harvards-experts-now-roil-its-faculty.html?


WASHINGTON — For years, Harvard (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/h/harvard_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org)’s experts on health economics and policy have advised presidents and Congress on how to provide health benefits to the nation at a reasonable cost. But those remedies will now be applied to the Harvard (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/h/harvard_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org) faculty, and the professors are in an uproar.Members of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, the heart of the 378-year-old university, voted overwhelmingly in November to oppose changes that would require them and thousands of other Harvard employees to pay more for health care. The university says the increases are in part a result of the Obama administration’s Affordable Care Act, which many Harvard professors championed.
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The faculty vote came too late to stop the cost increases from taking effect this month, and the anger on campus remains focused on questions that are agitating many workplaces: How should the burden of health costs be shared by employers and employees? If employees have to bear more of the cost, will they skimp on medically necessary care, curtail the use of less valuable services, or both?

Dave_L
01-06-2015, 10:16
Can I call the repost police instead? :D

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/144335-Healthcare-costs-and-Harvard-advisers-are-finally-going-to-feel-that-cost

TFOGGER
01-06-2015, 10:28
Crap... I searched "Harvard" and got nuthin... Mods, please merge or delete, as appropriate.

HoneyBadger
01-06-2015, 10:36
Yeah I thought the same thing. One of them said, "It's not about the money, it's the principle." Whatever. It's the principle because of the money.
If it were about principle, then why were they championing it in the first place?? [pileoshit]

BPTactical
01-06-2015, 10:49
This is my shocked face:











This is my "Too bad, so sad, I feel for you" face:[LOL]





How does it feel to suck on the big one you elitist pricks? Welcome to reality.
It's a bitch ain't it?

buffalobo
01-06-2015, 11:37
This is my shocked face:











This is my "Too bad, so sad, I feel for you" face:[LOL]





How does it feel to suck on the big one you elitist pricks? Welcome to reality.
It's a bitch ain't it?

^^^What he said and a donkey kick to the crotch.