The CDC is already starting the push

[kidicarus13]

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21638140-gun-now-more-likely-kill-you-car-bangers-v-bullets

A gun is now more likely to kill you than a car isJan 10th 2015 | NEW YORK | From the print edition (http://www.economist.com/printedition/2015-01-10)

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ACCORDING to data gathered by the Centres for Disease Control (CDC), deaths caused by cars in America are in long-term decline. Improved technology, tougher laws and less driving by young people have all led to safer streets and highways. Deaths by guns, though—the great majority suicides, accidents or domestic violence—have been trending slightly upwards. This year, if the trend continues, they will overtake deaths on the roads.
The Centre for American Progress first spotted last February that the lines would intersect. Now, on its reading, new data to the end of 2012 support the view that guns will surpass cars this year as the leading killer of under 25s. Bloomberg Government has gone further. Its compilation of the CDC data in December concluded that guns would be deadlier for all age groups.
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Comparing the two national icons, cars and guns, yields “a statistic that really resonates with people”, says Chelsea Parsons, co-author of the report for the Centre for American Progress. Resonance is certainly needed. There are about 320m people in the United States, and nearly as many civilian firearms. And although the actual rate of gun ownership is declining, enthusiasts are keeping up the number in circulation. Black Friday on November 28th kicked off such a shopping spree that the FBI had to carry out 175,000 instant background checks (three checks a second), a record for that day, just for sales covered by the extended Brady Act of 1998, the only serious bit of gun-curbing legislation passed in recent history.
Many sales escape that oversight, however. Everytown for Gun Safety, a movement backed by Mike Bloomberg, a former mayor of New York, has investigated loopholes in online gun sales and found that one in 30 users of Armslist classifieds has a criminal record that forbids them to own firearms. Private reselling of guns draws no attention, unless it crosses state lines.
William Vizzard, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at Sacramento, points out that guns also don’t wear out as fast as cars. “I compare a gun to a hammer or a crowbar,” he says. “Even if you stopped making guns today, you might not see a real change in the number of guns for decades.”
Motor vehicles, because they are operated on government-built roads, have been subject to licensing and registration, in the interests of public safety, for more than a century. But guns are typically kept at home. That private space is shielded by the Fourth Amendment just as “the right to bear arms” is protected by the Second, making government control difficult.
Car technologies and road laws are ever-evolving: in 2014, for example, the National Highways Traffic Safety Administration announced its plan to phase in mandatory rear-view cameras on new light vehicles, while New York City lowered its speed limit for local roads. By contrast, safety features on firearms—such as smartguns unlocked by an owner’s thumbprint or a radio-frequency encryption—are opposed by the National Rifle Association, whose allies in Congress also block funding for the sort of public-health research that might show, in even clearer detail, the cost of America’s love affair with guns.

[BPTactical]

Two words:
Data Manipulation

[Ah Pook]

There seems to be an agenda here. You can "forecast" anything you want. That doesn't make it accurate.

I'll stick with the FBI stats.

[TFOGGER]

Two words:
Data Manipulation

Exactly. If lightning kills a 110 year old man, then it becomes a leading cause of death in that age category, in terms of percentage.

[buffalobo]

Two words:
Data Manipulation
Yep, right up there with global warming scam.

[sniper7]

Coming from the agency who botched ebola and fails every year with the flu vaccine....

[hollohas]

Even the title of the article is manipulation. It says guns are more likely to kill "you" than a car.

How many of "you" are between the ages of 15-24? Wonder what that chart would look like if they included all ages. Easy money says cars kill way more.

[Great-Kazoo]

Two words:
Data Manipulation

4 words say it all.
The Centre for American Progress

[Zundfolge]

All this proves is that car safety has improved.

[thvigil11]

The graph looks like a swordfish.

[mcjhr]

So if you have a gun in your vehicle, you're basically dead. CDC is a joke.

[Gman]

Yep, right up there with global warming scam.
Haven't you heard? Models are the new "science". [Sarcasm2]

[speedysst]

Ok, now my stomach hurts from laughing so hard!
So if you have a gun in your vehicle, you're basically dead. CDC is a joke.

[TFOGGER]

So if you have a gun in your vehicle, you're basically dead. CDC is a joke.

It all depends. Have you been to West Africa in the last 21 days? Have you been in contact with anyone that has Ebola? (2 questions I was asked during a recent doctor's office visit...)

[Aloha_Shooter]

Three most effective ways of spreading falsehoods:
1. Lies.
2. Damned Lies.
3. Statistics.

This monograph encompasses all three of the above.

[Rucker61]

I love the infographic they use with their representation "gun deaths have been slightly trending upward". They may want to uh, Photoshop their graphic to match their bullshit.
I'm really offended by the lack of effort they've put in their brainwashing campaign. Typical liberal, probably they best they could do working 1 1/2 hours a day while stoned out of their mind.

Actually, they are correct. Looking at Cause of Death Statistics from WISQARS, years 2001 to 2012, the raw numbers of gun deaths have increased about 14% over that period, with a rate per 100,000 population increased at a smaller 2.5%. What they don't point out is that gun homicides have remained relatively flat over that period, and as the population increased, the rate of homicide per 100k declined by 4%.

The increase is due entirely to the increase in suicides. Gun suicides increase by 22% over the period with a rate increase of 10%; so, the rate of gun homicides has increased by 10%. Non-gun suicides, however, have increased by 44% in numbers over the period with a growth rate of 30%. Looks like suicide is a suicide problem, not a gun problem. The US suicide rate, even though it has increased, still ranks that behind the gun free paradises of Japan, China, South Korea and Hong Kong and behind the overly civilized Western Europe countries of France, Switzerland, Germany, Belgium and all of the Scandinavian countries, according to www.suicide.org. Looks like more guns do make you safer, at least from suicide. When I get some time, I'll compare gun ownership rate to suicide rate to see how the different countries rank.

[buckshotbarlow]

i'm glad i don't own either, just trucks and finger nail clippers.

[Irving]

I'm interested in the graph showing the number of families that spend time in a funeral home related to those that have experienced a death within the same month.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Three most effective ways of spreading falsehoods:
1. Lies.
2. Damned Lies.
3. Statistics.

This monograph encompasses all three of the above.

Which is only true if you don't understand #3.

Incidentally, "trend" is statistical code for "no matter what we attempted, we could not reach significance."

[Zundfolge]

The increase is due entirely to the increase in suicides....

Actually you can just stop right there. ANY "gun death" statistics that include suicides are on their face dishonesty in service of creating false narratives to push gun control. Period.

Gun laws have zero impact on suicides ... unless you believe that healthy, happy people are somehow manipulated into killing themselves by the mere presence of a firearm (or that guns whisper in peoples ears or some other such lunacy).