Grand Junction

[hurley842002]

I know there is at least a Western slope discussion floating around here somewhere, but I can't for the life of me find it, and it may just be better to ask my specific questions in a new thread.

Some of you are aware that recently I made a big life change, in ending a 10 year career to pursue education and further my career goals. I now am pretty much wide open for where I want to live/go to school and or work. If it were up to me, we'd move to the desert and call it good. I think Grand Junction is the best climate compromise for us both, as she refuses to live in an actual desert. With that said, here are a few questions I have.

-What is the Job market like? Specifically for my wife, she's a banker considering a future in nursing, but banking is her current Forte.

- How is the Sheriff in Mesa county? I'm looking real hard at the deputy positions available with MC.

- We don't go out much at all, but if the wife and I wanted to "go out", how is the night life for two young'ish adults.

- If Colorado eventually turns completely blue, what is the political climate for GJ?

- How are the school's? I've got 2 little one's, and the oldest will start school in about 3 years.

I may come up with some other questions, if I do I'll post them. Thanks for any input.

[Hound]

I am guessing this is what you are looking for.

https://www.ar-15.co/forums/125-Western-Slope-Shooters-Society

[Great-Kazoo]

I'll let you know Wednesday

[hurley842002]

I'll let you know Wednesday
Actually thinking of taking a trip there in the near future.

[cstone]

Check out Durango as well. La Plata County Sheriff's Office is not the best paying job in the world, but they seem to be hiring fairly frequently and the job will give you plenty of exposure to a variety of issues. Oil and gas are pretty big businesses on the western slope, so banking and the rest of the economy there will float on how that industry is going. Another benefit to Durango is proximity to Farmington, NM. If you can't find what you want in one, you can look in the other. GJ is a nice town, but if you can't find it in GJ, there aren't really any alternatives.

Good luck with your search.

[Great-Kazoo]

Actually thinking of taking a trip there in the near future.

We'll be in and out of the area. Looking south of 70 down to Montrose. Wife has one in her sights. Only 3 ac backs up to BLM land.

[twitchyfinger]

Hurley just a thought. I'd give you a heck of a deal on renting my cabin for a year maybe longer. PM sent.

[Hummer]

-What is the Job market like? Specifically for my wife, she's a banker considering a future in nursing, but banking is her current Forte.

Unlike the Front Range, the job market in GJ has not fully recovered. Wages are significantly lower. Probably good demand for nurses but there's a lot of $$ pressure on the medical businesses here.

- How is the Sheriff in Mesa county? I'm looking real hard at the deputy positions available with MC.

There's a new sheriff in town, Matt Lewis. There's a lot of personnel shake ups happening right now; might actually be a good time to apply.

- We don't go out much at all, but if the wife and I wanted to "go out", how is the night life for two young'ish adults.

It's a much smaller city but probably adequate and growing number of outlets because of the university which is also growing. There's a good selection of dining and shopping available, far better that when we moved here 20 years ago.

- If Colorado eventually turns completely blue, what is the political climate for GJ?

Mesa County is about 70% R now but expect that to change due to the influx of California escapees and the recent addition of a leftist publisher running the Daily Sentinel newspaper.

- How are the school's? I've got 2 little one's, and the oldest will start school in about 3 years.

No personal experience. Probably varies depending on what part of town one lives in.

I suggest you come over for a weekend getaway....

[hurley842002]

-What is the Job market like? Specifically for my wife, she's a banker considering a future in nursing, but banking is her current Forte.

Unlike the Front Range, the job market in GJ has not fully recovered. Wages are significantly lower. Probably good demand for nurses but there's a lot of $$ pressure on the medical businesses here.

- How is the Sheriff in Mesa county? I'm looking real hard at the deputy positions available with MC.

There's a new sheriff in town, Matt Lewis. There's a lot of personnel shake ups happening right now; might actually be a good time to apply.

- We don't go out much at all, but if the wife and I wanted to "go out", how is the night life for two young'ish adults.

It's a much smaller city but probably adequate and growing number of outlets because of the university which is also growing. There's a good selection of dining and shopping available, far better that when we moved here 20 years ago.

- If Colorado eventually turns completely blue, what is the political climate for GJ?

Mesa County is about 70% R now but expect that to change due to the influx of California escapees and the recent addition of a leftist publisher running the Daily Sentinel newspaper.

- How are the school's? I've got 2 little one's, and the oldest will start school in about 3 years.

No personal experience. Probably varies depending on what part of town one lives in.

I suggest you come over for a weekend getaway....
Thanks a lot for the info. There appears to be a handful of banker jobs available, so I may have her start applying, and I'll apply for MC.

The plan is to rent for a year, get all my debt (which is minimal) paid down, and then start looking for a chunk of land, but that is the plan regardless of where we end up.

As far as night life, as long as there is a decent steakhouse, and a few decent Mexican food restaurants, we are happy.

At a minimum, I'm planning to go scout the area, maybe check out the 2a restaurant in Rifle.

[JohnnyDrama]

I think GJ is a pretty cool town. I lived there for 5-6 years while attending college. It's grown a lot since then but I still like it. My more liberal friends frequently complain about the concervitism there so it can't be too bad. As far as western Colorado college towns it has the most to offer as far as prices for housing and restaurants go. Probably a lot more politically agreeable as well. For early childhood opportunities it definitely has more options.

[hurley842002]

I think GJ is a pretty cool town. I lived there for 5-6 years while attending college. It's grown a lot since then but I still like it. My more liberal friends frequently complain about the concervitism there so it can't be too bad. As far as western Colorado college towns it has the most to offer as far as prices for housing and restaurants go. Probably a lot more politically agreeable as well. For early childhood opportunities it definitely has more options.
Housing is definitely a big one for us. After considering moving back to La Junta and pricing homes down there, it really turned us off to the metro area housing market. GJ isn't quite as cheap as La Junta, but it's better than the metro area from what we've seen so far.

[hurley842002]

Check out Durango as well. La Plata County Sheriff's Office is not the best paying job in the world, but they seem to be hiring fairly frequently and the job will give you plenty of exposure to a variety of issues. Oil and gas are pretty big businesses on the western slope, so banking and the rest of the economy there will float on how that industry is going. Another benefit to Durango is proximity to Farmington, NM. If you can't find what you want in one, you can look in the other. GJ is a nice town, but if you can't find it in GJ, there aren't really any alternatives.

Good luck with your search.
Thanks for the info, Durango wouldn't be bad at all, and I've worked with a few of the La Plata guys at my previous job, they were definitely small town deputies, but good guys/gals nonetheless.

One thing I didn't mention as necessary, is the airport. My mother in law flies in from California frequently, so GJ has that going for it.

[cstone]

IMO, the weekenders from California in GJ are a major drawback. Given your MIL, GJ is the better choice.

[Great-Kazoo]

Found a few groovy places from delta south. That's a 30 - 45 min drive, depending on weather.

[JohnnyDrama]

IMO, the weekenders from California in GJ are a major drawback. Given your MIL, GJ is the better choice.

I lived in Durango for nine months back in 2002. That town has California weekenders that stay for weeks. And, as the general population is smaller they are much more noticeable.

[The Norseman]

"Another benefit to Durango is proximity to Farmington, NM."

I've lived in Durango going on 18 years and have never seen proximity to Farmington as a benefit [emoji54] La Plata County just elected its first D sheriff in over 20 years, so we are all waiting for the smoke to clear and see what we really ended up with. Durango is a beautify area to live but it's gone blue with all the west coast/east coast transplants.

[Great-Kazoo]

All we saw this week was Traffic, lot's of traffic. Are there some possible areas to explore, yes. However. At this time we can't see moving from the front range to western slope when the same crap exist. Maybe to the west of GJ, or even Utah.

[drew890]

All we saw this week was Traffic, lot's of traffic. Are there some possible areas to explore, yes. However. At this time we can't see moving from the front range to western slope when the same crap exist. Maybe to the west of GJ, or even Utah.
Where did you experience this large amount of traffic in Grand Junction last weekend?
I moved here from Greenwood Village two years ago and have absalutly zero complaints about Grand Junction traffic.

[Irving]

Saint George was ridiculously hot when we were there last summer. I don't want to derail your thread, but would you mind talking about what attracts you to the desert? It's never been some where I've considered, but my wife loves the heat and would be down to move some where warmer.

[Mtn.man]

Yup, it's HOT HOT HOT.

[hurley842002]

Saint George was ridiculously hot when we were there last summer. I don't want to derail your thread, but would you mind talking about what attracts you to the desert? It's never been some where I've considered, but my wife loves the heat and would be down to move some where warmer.
Yeah we drove through there in July on our way to California, the heat literally slapped us in the face when we got out of the truck, my wife immediately got very irritable.

It would be safe to say not just any desert location would suffice. I like canyons and mesa's, warm weather, wide open space. I think part of my desire for the open space is growing up on the plains.

Ultimately I'd like to get close (reasonable driving distance) to California without living in California. St. George is a bit of a drive but do able, Boulder City Nevada would be nice, but my wife lived in Vegas for 5 years and won't go back because of the heat. Unfortunately it looks like my options are very limited at this point.

[Irving]

Alamosa?

[hurley842002]

Alamosa?
Alamosa wouldn't be too bad, I've hung out there a few times, but it's really not the change of scenery I'm looking for.

[alan0269]

A little off topic, but any of the options you have listed are gonna make meeting up for trades extremely difficult! [Bang]

On topic - I've never lived there, but I find Grand Junction a very nice place to visit. Not far from some of the scenery you've mentioned that you like either. Just take a short drive into Utah and it's all there for you.

[hurley842002]

A little off topic, but any of the options you have listed are gonna make meeting up for trades extremely difficult! [Bang]

On topic - I've never lived there, but I find Grand Junction a very nice place to visit. Not far from some of the scenery you've mentioned that you like either. Just take a short drive into Utah and it's all there for you.
We've had some very worthy deals, the trip to Denver might be worth it lol.

Yes, Moab is a big selling point for me. I've done lots and lots of wheeling and exploring in the Rocky Mountains, I'm kind of ready to explore somewhere else.

[hurley842002]

Plus, at the end of the day, if driving to California, I'll take 11 hours from GJ vs 15 from here any day. Those 4 hours at the end of a long trip add up.

[Danimal]

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[hurley842002]

Thanks a lot for the info Danimal.

One more question for you guys. I've only ever driven through GJ via I70, so I know what is available to the east. What's the best access to decent mountains? Is it going to be heading back east on 70, or are there other closer options?

Lack of decent mountains are my wife's only concern, not a deal breaker at this point, but I'd like to try and ease her concern.

[cstone]

Go south from GJ. After Delta and Montrose, you either go to Silverton and Durango or go west toward Telluride. Ouray is a nice little tourist trap and the drive up the pass is fun when it isn't snowing and iced over. Just avoid Gunnison [LOL]

Lots of great places on the western slope. I think finding jobs will be your first and biggest hurdle.

Good luck with your search.

[Great-Kazoo]

Where did you experience this large amount of traffic in Grand Junction last weekend?
I moved here from Greenwood Village two years ago and have absalutly zero complaints about Grand Junction traffic.

FWIW: I remember GWV as a small place , the DTC was miniscule compared to last stop down there, before Christmas (never again). Now it's like any other major growth area.

This was wed. mid afternoon, evening and again this morning.
Road 24 where the Mesa mall / stores seemed to be reproducing every time we drove by there. It was like Harmony rd and College ave in one big cluster fuk. I couldn't imaging being in that area around the holidays. It's bordered by business 70, Colorado Mesa University is in that area.
IMO GJ is like Ft Collins, which we want to avoid.

We want Small Town, Rural living. When we moved to our current location there was less than 6K population, 2 stop lights. Now it's passed the 20K and 10+ lights to get out of town. WAY to many people.

The up side is , as mentioned. 20 - 30 minutes and you are away from that scene.



We found a real nice place in Montrose (by the ad) till we got there. 5 ac scenic overlook, bank owned. The 5ac was 4 - 5' wide of shoulder off the road, the scenic overlook was fantastic. Till you lowered your view 2". Then we were subjected to the feed lot. .
Come spring we'll examine the area more, especially the areas outside city limits. This visit was time limited.

[Great-Kazoo]

Plus, at the end of the day, if driving to California, I'll take 11 hours from GJ vs 15 from here any day. Those 4 hours at the end of a long trip add up.

One reason the spouse is looking west. Shaves 4 + drive time hours off the trip. Have to say some areas off 15 in UT look interesting. The tallest object we noticed in 4 towns was the American flag.
It's too bad CA is so screwed up. Between gun laws, taxes, Illegals, FSA entitlements etc. Central CA just outside Sequioa nat'l park is fantastic AND affordable.

[Great-Kazoo]

Just laying tile in our shop. If you run through town, and you happen to go by the south end (HWY 50) we're just west of the new maverick station. "Snipper Shoot". Make sure you let me know you're from here cause I don't know dick from tom.

Nursing: good
Banking: Okay
Job prospects MSCO: Moderate
New Sheriff: Problem, 4th amendment violations (but better than Steve King)
Night life: Hell I don't know I work all the time.
Economy: Largely oilfield support but fairly diversified. High tech jobs are lacking out here.
Desert access: Very nice

DAMN. we drove past there, however it was after 5 and on a schedule. The spouse said Hey that looks like a place to stop by .

[hurley842002]

Go south from GJ. After Delta and Montrose, you either go to Silverton and Durango or go west toward Telluride. Ouray is a nice little tourist trap and the drive up the pass is fun when it isn't snowing and iced over. Just avoid Gunnison [LOL]

Lots of great places on the western slope. I think finding jobs will be your first and biggest hurdle.

Good luck with your search.
Thanks for the info!

[The Norseman]

My FIL lives in Cedaredge. If had to move out of Durango, this is where I'd end up. Smaller and quieter than most places on the western slope. Higher up than GJ and spectacular views. Quick access to the Grand Mesa where there are a lot of things to do in all the seasons. Tons of fresh produce and tons of orchards. Good living there.

[Hummer]

Thanks a lot for the info Danimal.

One more question for you guys. I've only ever driven through GJ via I70, so I know what is available to the east. What's the best access to decent mountains? Is it going to be heading back east on 70, or are there other closer options?

Lack of decent mountains are my wife's only concern, not a deal breaker at this point, but I'd like to try and ease her concern.

The Grand Valley is surrounded by mountains. The Grand Mesa is about ten miles from my house and about a 45 minute drive east from GJ to the top. It is the largest flat-topped mountain in the world with a high elevation of 11,332'. It has over 300 lakes, forest roads and trails for four wheeling, snowmobiling, cross country skiing, the Powderhorn ski area and resorts, cabins and campgrounds. On the north about 6 miles from my house is Mount Garfield and the Bookcliffs that sweep north and west into Utah. The south facing slopes appear barren but just beyond is juniper and pinyon forest with endless BLM land and backcountry roads. To the west is the red rock country of the Colorado Plateau that extends to Moab along the Colorado River, the cliffs and arches of Rattlesnake Canyon, the Colorado National Monument and south from Pinon Mesa to the Uncompaghre Plateau, all "decent" mountains with pinyon-juniper to Gambel oak in the shrub belt and higher elevation spruce-fir forest.

The Gunnison and Colorado Rivers are great for river running. I've traveled by canoe and kayak from the Black Canyon of the Gunnison to the Colorado River 109 miles to Westwater, UT, and shorter portions of it many times. No one will lack for outdoors opportunities here.

The Grand Valley is dry of snow now but these pics are from my computer desk at home looking east to the Grand Mesa and north to the Bookcliffs. The wide angle lens makes the mountains appear about twice as far away than they are.



http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Grand-Mesa-View-12-8-13_zps0e0b4778.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Grand-Mesa-View-12-8-13_zps0e0b4778.jpg.html)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Home-view-The-Grand-Valley_zps4mpnihek.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Home-view-The-Grand-Valley_zps4mpnihek.jpg.html)

[Ah Pook]

Subscribing to this thread. Where did the last GJ thread go?

Lots of good info here. Thanks!

[hurley842002]

The Grand Valley is surrounded by mountains. The Grand Mesa is about ten miles from my house and about a 45 minute drive east from GJ to the top. It is the largest flat-topped mountain in the world with a high elevation of 11,332'. It has over 300 lakes, forest roads and trails for four wheeling, snowmobiling, cross country skiing, the Powderhorn ski area and resorts, cabins and campgrounds. On the north about 6 miles from my house is Mount Garfield and the Bookcliffs that sweep north and west into Utah. The south facing slopes appear barren but just beyond is juniper and pinyon forest with endless BLM land and backcountry roads. To the west is the red rock country of the Colorado Plateau that extends to Moab along the Colorado River, the cliffs and arches of Rattlesnake Canyon, the Colorado National Monument and south from Pinon Mesa to the Uncompaghre Plateau, all "decent" mountains with pinyon-juniper to Gambel oak in the shrub belt and higher elevation spruce-fir forest.

The Gunnison and Colorado Rivers are great for river running. I've traveled by canoe and kayak from the Black Canyon of the Gunnison to the Colorado River 109 miles to Westwater, UT, and shorter portions of it many times. No one will lack for outdoors opportunities here.

The Grand Valley is dry of snow now but these pics are from my computer desk at home looking east to the Grand Mesa and north to the Bookcliffs. The wide angle lens makes the mountains appear about twice as far away than they are.



http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Grand-Mesa-View-12-8-13_zps0e0b4778.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Grand-Mesa-View-12-8-13_zps0e0b4778.jpg.html)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Home-view-The-Grand-Valley_zps4mpnihek.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Home/Home-view-The-Grand-Valley_zps4mpnihek.jpg.html)
Thanks a ton for that! I had no idea the Grand Mesa was so, well GRAND! Lol

[Danimal]

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[hurley842002]

Hummer covered it pretty well. Other places I'll add: 5 miles to the south is whitewater (po-dunk) with a turnoff into HWY 141 (gateway canyon) with a lot of mountain options as well - divide road, etc. There is also Dominguez canyon 10 miles south - desert wilderness with 30' and 50' waterfalls. My wife went over the 30' [panic]

10 miles west, there is Colorado national monument- in part. Monument road to get there originates in Grand Junction, with great trail access (hiking,biking,foot) there. The road goes on top of the red rock cliffs, with a lot of hiking opportunities like uncompadre canyon with it's own waterfall, and serpents trail. Eventually, the main road goes into a small high elevation community called "glade park". From there, you can access "pinion mesa" to the south (45 minutes from Grand Junction, high elevation forest, OHV okay) or a red-rocks wilderness area to the north around "black ridge" (40 minutes from Grand Junction) with a lot of juniper / cliff trail action (OHV ok). To the west, you have Fruita 11 miles outside of grand junction, a suburb really with (in some places) upscale, affordable homes.

Only half of the valley is occupied. The north half of the valley is adobe badlands. Prarie dogs, coyotes, rabbits, etc. One public BLM shooting range with good berms 1000 yard gongs out there (relatively well maintained). There is another BLM shooting range closer to the Colorado river on the east edge of town, though it isn't as cared for. One indoor range now, very nice, rifle/pistol 25 yards, $360/y membership. IDPA, USPSA, Cowboy action have a strong presence here at a private range in whitewater.

You know moab well of course. Into the bookcliffs you can get mountain access on baxter pass and on Dolores pass - 45-55 minutes from Junction.

Moab:

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(For the record, that picture is to scale[Coffee])



On top of the colo natl monument (Liberty cap, hopping cracks in the rock)
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Dominguez Canyon:
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North Desert (By the bookcliffs, looking south-east towards Grand Junction)
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Dominguez Canyon:
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Baxter pass:
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Wow, a picture is worth a thousand words, and you nailed it, thank you!

Basically my wife was 100% sold on it, then she did a Google image search and didn't see much in the way of mountainous terrain.

[drew890]

Let us Grand Junction members know when you are planning on visiting or moving out and I'm sure that we will meet up with you and show you around.

[Great-Kazoo]

Let us Grand Junction members know when you are planning on visiting or moving out and I'm sure that we will meet up with you and show you around.

I sent out pm's and received 1 reply. My bad if i neglected to include you. We'd like to look at areas west of GJ. The pop is 60K in GJ and that's a tad many

[cstone]

Kazoo, you are looking for Nucla or Naturita if you stay in Colorado. You can always look at Monticello if you decide to move to Utah.

I've driven through all three, but couldn't tell you anything about them except they are small and they aren't the types of places people wander through unless they have a lot of time on their hands.

[drew890]

Kazoo, I'm a transplant out here for about two years now. However my girlfriend is an assistant principal at Grand Junction High School and grew up out here in Delta. She used to teach at Fruita High School so she is pretty well versed in the area if you have an questions that we could help you with.

[Great-Kazoo]

This is what appeals to us. Much better than concrete cliffs.

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The only problem is our cook, she's picky. EVERYTHING must meet her standards.
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[hurley842002]

This is what appeals to us. Much better than concrete cliffs.

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The only problem is our cook, she's picky. EVERYTHING must meet her standards.
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[Fentonite]

Kazoo, you are looking for Nucla or Naturita if you stay in Colorado. You can always look at Monticello if you decide to move to Utah.

I've driven through all three, but couldn't tell you anything about them except they are small and they aren't the types of places people wander through unless they have a lot of time on their hands.

aaagh! Nucla or Naturita? Cstone is right, in that they aren't exactly a "destination" area. I've lived there, would not recommend. Unless you're looking for a very toothless, inbred, unemployed and meth-ridden area. If that's the case, eureka, you're home. Otherwise, there are better options.

[Great-Kazoo]

You neglected me too! [Poke]

It looks like i might have been "Thinking" they were sent . I did sent 1 or 2 pm's, that i know. [pileoshit] We've been in sunny central CA doing nothing but eating, browsing groovy little towns AND SHOOTING. Lots of shooting, from this deck. For 3 weeks.
ANYWAY we will be out there again come late spring, mark your calendar.
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out past here. This is 150 yds.
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with CA compliant guns. Actually meeting CADOJ guidelines.
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[buffalobo]

Cedaredge and Surface Creek valley are cooler in summer, warmer in winter, and get more snow than GJ, Delta and Fruita. IMO great area to live and have good access to the more populated areas and recreational activities.

Grand Mesa gets pretty crowded in summer(at least around more popular lakes) but not bad in winter. Great snowmobiling.

[hurley842002]

Barring anything coming up, it looks like the fam and I will be going to Grand Junction this weekend, probably Saturday morning and stay until Sunday.

[hurley842002]

I'll be out of the shop on Saturday. Hell.
Well son of a gun!

Thinking about bringing some hardware along with us. How busy do the BLM ranges typically get on the weekends?

[Great-Kazoo]

Barring anything coming up, it looks like the fam and I will be going to Grand Junction this weekend, probably Saturday morning and stay until Sunday.

IF you're leaving sunday. better leave by 8 in the a.m. The latest IF not you're in the hell hole called skier traffic.
There's a thread about Shooters Grill in Rifle. outside the hype of a Pro 2a / Christian business, The food is good, across the board.

[drew890]

The BLM range should have some room at it this weekend. Weather will be sunny around 60 degrees, so it should be great shooting.