Thinking about an AUG have a magazine related question or two

[USMC88-93]

If I chose the standard variant are the magazines still hard to find (Nationally not CO), and are they date coded similar to Magpul. (Would your typical gun show have them available in enough supply to look for "older" ones?

If I chose the NATO Variant (presuming they are available) is the only manual of arms difference between them a lack of a bolt hold open on the NATO stock?

If I bought the standard variant are replacement NATO stocks easy to come by and a simple swap?

I have enough AR-15 pattern magazines to last a lifetime so it would seem simple to choose the NATO variant but my curiosity cor the original is still there.

[USMC88-93]

The instant gratification side of me says.............Anyone?

[WETWRKS]

If I chose the standard variant are the magazines still hard to find (Nationally not CO), and are they date coded similar to Magpul. (Would your typical gun show have them available in enough supply to look for "older" ones?

If I chose the NATO Variant (presuming they are available) is the only manual of arms difference between them a lack of a bolt hold open on the NATO stock?

If I bought the standard variant are replacement NATO stocks easy to come by and a simple swap?

I have enough AR-15 pattern magazines to last a lifetime so it would seem simple to choose the NATO variant but my curiosity cor the original is still there.

Ok...I have owned 4 AUGs and currently have 2. The simple answer would be to go with the NATO stock. You have the mags for it already and the gun can even use higher capacity ones like the 50 round drums and the 60 and 100 quad stack mags. Yes the standard AUG mags are stll available at gun shows but tend to pull a higher price than a typical magpul mag.

The NATO stocks are available out there from either PJs AUGs or on the firearm sale sites like gunbroker. PJ also sells AUGs with the NATO stock already installed but they arn't difficult to do yourself.

[USMC88-93]

The NATO stocks are available out there from either PJs AUGs or on the firearm sale sites like gunbroker. PJ also sells AUGs with the NATO stock already installed but they arn't difficult to do yourself.


The NATO stock work with the current A3 M1 variants being produced?

[fullmann]

The prices for the standard AUG mags are pretty affordable right now. They were stupid cheap just before our ban went into place. I scooped up about 20 of them.

I've never shot one with the NATO stock, I think I remember reading something about the trigger being different/weaker. But this may just be the booze.

I really like my AUG, and wouldn't ditch it for any dollar amount. But, if I was starting at zero, I'd look at the TAVOR. Seems to be the Internet darling right now, so there's tons of new support for it. Mainly trigger options, as bullpup triggers suck. Luckily I managed to nab a 2020 trigger for mine before the price went nuts.

For AUG support though, PJ's will have everything you need.

[USMC88-93]

if I was starting at zero, I'd look at the TAVOR. Seems to be the Internet darling right now,

Held both today and had a chance to pick each up compare its weight and balance vs the other. (Repeatedly alternated between them) I found the weight and balance of the AUG to be preferable. That was unloaded of course to the full weight balance was not present. I like both and given the opportunity to own both I would but choosing only one I would have to go AUG first.

[WETWRKS]

Aug vs Tavor....I would say that I prefer the feel of the aug...but the bolt hold open...the mag release of the Tavor makes it more preferable. I have one in 9mm and one in .223.

If you would like to meet to try both out we could arrange a date.

[USMC88-93]

Aug vs Tavor....I would say that I prefer the feel of the aug...but the bolt hold open...the mag release of the Tavor makes it more preferable. I have one in 9mm and one in .223.

If you would like to meet to try both out we could arrange a date.

Putting 9mm conversion kits into the equation and not taking into consideration Colorado laws the Tavor is the clear winner considering the price of 6th generation Aug 9mm kits on PJ's website. I have a number of Colt 9mm magazines what style does the Aug take (their own proprietary?)

Cant tell if you said your 9mm was the AUG or Tavor.

[The Rat]

I have a CQC AUG with the NATO stock equipped and I love the shit out of it. The way mine is set up, the optic is the same height over bore as it would be on an AR, so the BDC reticle is still valid.

Here's a guy selling a NATO stock for a good price, well not sure if it's a relist or not, but they aren't hard to find either way: https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=7413.0

[The Rat]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/smaug9.jpg

Aw yeah.

If you go the AUG route, do yourself a favor and get the 2020 Precision sear from Ratworx. Easy install and great improvement on the trigger.

[WETWRKS]

Putting 9mm conversion kits into the equation and not taking into consideration Colorado laws the Tavor is the clear winner considering the price of 6th generation Aug 9mm kits on PJ's website. I have a number of Colt 9mm magazines what style does the Aug take (their own proprietary?)

Cant tell if you said your 9mm was the AUG or Tavor.

Tavor in 9mm and one in .223

[XXFattyHunterXX]

You have a picture by chance? I'm thinking about saving up for an AUG cqc. Thanks


I have a CQC AUG with the NATO stock equipped and I love the shit out of it. The way mine is set up, the optic is the same height over bore as it would be on an AR, so the BDC reticle is still valid.

Here's a guy selling a NATO stock for a good price, well not sure if it's a relist or not, but they aren't hard to find either way: https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=7413.0

[USMC88-93]

You have a picture by chance? I'm thinking about saving up for an AUG cqc. Thanks

He put one up in his previous post.

[XXFattyHunterXX]

Damn its my phone browser. Thanks
OK saww the picture and I'm hooked. How did the barrel grip comes out and does it take away the quick barrel change capabilities? Just wondering.

[The Rat]

Still has a QC barrel, you just have to take off the CQC rail forend first. Which is pretty easy as well.

The reason I went with the CQC specifically is because I can grip it with a C-clamp thumb over bore grip, the same as I do on my ARs. When I'm in the act of shooting, nothing feels radically different since I'm not forced to grip the OEM gangster grip like one of the Die Hard villains.

That one is currently sporting an 18" barrel and Ratworx thread adapter, which allows the 1/2x28 threads to clear the CQC rails, which then allows me to mount a regular Surefire muzzle brake and my can. Fun times!

[XXFattyHunterXX]

Interesting...so did you buy it the way it is of have the rail installed? Plus the thread is not standard ar thread? Probably won't have a suppressor anytime soon so clearance might not be a problem for me.

[The Rat]

I bought it as a complete CQC AUG, so all of that was already on there. Got a deal on it on the ar15.com classifieds.

You can buy them direct from PJ or have him install the CQC kit on an already-owned AUG.

The AUG's regular barrel threading is something weird like 13x1LH, hence the need for the adapter.

Just know ahead of time that the CQC by default comes with a 16" barrel with an extended flash hider so that it clears the rails. Not a problem for regular use, but in my case, I needed that 18" barrel to get it far out enough to suppress.

Here's PJ's site, he's basically the AUG guy for the US: http://www.pjs-steyraug.com/

[XXFattyHunterXX]

Thanks for the info, website got me drooling lol

[pinz712m]

Nice setup.

What light mount is that? I got a CQC from PJ as well but had to mount my light on the left. where did you mount the switch tape?

Thanks for the suppressor info. how does the Aug fire suppressed? are you changing the gas port switch? what setting?

- Christian
Here is my setup

56995

[XXFattyHunterXX]

I think its mounted with an offset mount on the top rail.

[The Rat]

Nice setup.

What light mount is that? I got a CQC from PJ as well but had to mount my light on the left. where did you mount the switch tape?

Thanks for the suppressor info. how does the Aug fire suppressed? are you changing the gas port switch? what setting?

- Christian
Here is my setup

56995

Haley SBR Thorntail mount, mounted off the top rail. The pressure switch is on the front portion of the CQC rail, where the sling socket is.

Here's a more recent shot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/smaug11.jpg

I had to drill out the gas regulator in order to get it to cycle 100% when suppressed. Otherwise too much gas was going back into the action. What I did was drill the adverse port out to .110" based on the measurements of an Austrian military guy on lightfighter, and now I use that as my regular setting. I know this sounds backwards from what we're used to with AR gas ports and suppressors, but this is the hole letting gas out of the action. So more of that excess gas is being vented out, as opposed to running the action too fast/hard. Which for me was causing some odd issues. With that gas regulator drilled out, I have had 0 malfunctions in the last two 3-gun matches here.

[The Rat]

Here's a blurry/shitty pic of where I drilled out the adverse position on the gas regulator:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/smaug8-1.jpg

[pinz712m]

Here's a blurry/shitty pic of where I drilled out the adverse position on the gas regulator:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/smaug8-1.jpg


Damn...nice. I already wrote off my AUG to not being able to use a can. you got me thinking

[The Rat]

Mine runs 100% now with that simple gas reg drill-out. Strangely enough, it runs fine on that setting even without the can. Just shifts the ejection pattern back further to the 3-4 o'clock area. So for me at this point, the drilled out setting is normal, and the normal setting is the new adverse.

Before I had done that drilling, it would eject to the 1 o'clock with the can mounted on the normal setting, and would sometimes have malfunctions that you would associate with the bolt running too fast.