Rifle value help

[hurley842002]

If this is the wrong place to ask this question, I apologize and could the mods move to the appropriate section.

I have a relative in a bit of a financial bind, and is looking to offload some rifles. I'm in a financial position to help him out on the lot, but I need to know that I'm at least going to get my money back eventually. There are probably a couple I'd keep, but the rest I don't have a big interest in. All rifles are in good to great condition, not sure on round counts, but none of the barrels are close to being "shot out". Here is the list of rifles, can ya'll help me out, I'm the Glock hooker, not the bolt rifle specialist lol.

1903 Springfield 30-06 that's been sporterized (I'd likely keep as it was my grandfather's).

Pre 64 model 70 Winchester in .270.

Pre 64 model 70 Winchester in .220 swift.

Remington 700 in 264 Win mag.

Ruger model 77 in 22 hornet.

Ruger model 77 in 7mm Rem mag.

What say you? Thanks for any info.

[hurley842002]

Also to add, I've browsed a bit on gunbroker but not much info.

[def90]

It's a soft market right now, doubt you would get anything near what any of them are worth.

[encorehunter]

Your money is in the two pre 64s. Probably $800-1000 for the 270, more the better condition it gets. The 220 swift really depends on the model. It can go for $1200 on up to several thousand depending on condition and model. Rugers are probably in the $4-500 range and the Remmy is a touch more. Obviously rough estimates and not including scopes.

[hurley842002]

It's a soft market right now, doubt you would get anything near what any of them are worth.
Yeah that's what I told him, made him aware he'd need to leave some buffer room so I don't get hosed.

[hurley842002]

Your money is in the two pre 64s. Probably $800-1000 for the 270, more the better condition it gets. The 220 swift really depends on the model. It can go for $1200 on up to several thousand depending on condition and model. Rugers are probably in the $4-500 range and the Remmy is a touch more. Obviously rough estimates and not including scopes.
Thanks for the info. After a bit more research, I'm finding those pre 64's to be worth some coin (depending on condition of course), I had no idea how desirable they were.

[esaabye]

The 1903 is worth 2-3 depending on how it was sporterized. Of course you will want to hold on to it but consider restoring it to bring the value back up to 6-8. I always feel good about restoring an old battle rifle back to base configurations.

[sportbikeco]

About $3k for the lot +/-

Condition matters way more then most think on value of old guns. Some folks think their "pretty good" is 98% but its not. This can affect value around 50% or so.

[hurley842002]

About $3k for the lot +/-

Condition matters way more then most think on value of old guns. Some folks think their "pretty good" is 98% but its not. This can affect value around 50% or so.
So pretty much a gamble. I could offer him $2.5k for some buffer room, and either break even, or find out the model 70's are worth a couple grand a piece to a collector (which I see them going for $1k to $10k depending on model/caliber/condition). I also just found out the Model 70 in 220 swift is the target/heavy barrel variation and is around 1952 production. The model 70 in 270 is around 1947-49.

[wctriumph]

Here is the thing about Winchester Model 70, pre-64 edition.

They are only valuable to collectors if they are untouched and original. Model 70 rifles were rarely drilled and tapped for scope mounts from the factory so if a scope has been added the value is mostly as a shooter and of course condition will play a huge role. If the rifle has or had iron sights on it and now wears a scope, value is decreased from collector values. An original Model 70 that is in MINT condition and in "nonstandard" calibers will bring the most. If modified at all and in standard calibers, no collector value to a "collector". Still, they are great rifles to own and shoot.

I would say at retail values and waiting for the right buyer, $3150 for the lot is fair. If you want some buffer room so you won't loose money and / or you want to make a profit, then I would say $2200 to $2500 for the lot.

[hurley842002]

Here is the thing about Winchester Model 70, pre-64 edition.

They are only valuable to collectors if they are untouched and original. Model 70 rifles were rarely drilled and tapped for scope mounts from the factory so if a scope has been added the value is mostly as a shooter and of course condition will play a huge role. If the rifle has or had iron sights on it and now wears a scope, value is decreased from collector values. An original Model 70 that is in MINT condition and in "nonstandard" calibers will bring the most. If modified at all and in standard calibers, no collector value to a "collector". Still, they are great rifles to own and shoot.

I would say at retail values and waiting for the right buyer, $3150 for the lot is fair. If you want some buffer room so you won't loose money and / or you want to make a profit, then I would say $2200 to $2500 for the lot.

Thanks a lot for the info, I really appreciate it! These model 70's are definitely not likely to be "collector grade", but they are well taken care of and not butchered up. I'm thinking I'll make $2,500 my max.

[spqrzilla]

If your relative thinks he is going to get the rifles back when he's flush again, you are looking for big bad feelings.

Have him take the rifles to a good shop that does consignment sales.

[hurley842002]

If your relative thinks he is going to get the rifles back when he's flush again, you are looking for big bad feelings.

Have him take the rifles to a good shop that does consignment sales.
No, he knows he's getting rid of them. He was planning on listing them somewhere and selling them to whoever, so this isn't a "loan" type deal. He knows I'll likely be flipping them. I understand what you are saying tho.

[mb504]

If your relative has kids, you could buy them and then figure you have a couple years of Christmas/birthday gifts in the safe all ready to go. They might mean a lot more to his kids (or grandkids) than you could know.

[hurley842002]

If your relative has kids, you could buy them and then figure you have a couple years of Christmas/birthday gifts in the safe all ready to go. They might mean a lot more to his kids (or grandkids) than you could know.
That is a great idea, unfortunately I don't have the kind of dough to tie up for those kinds of gifts.