Ruling on CA Microstamping law due soon

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/18/gun-rights-groups-await-judge-ruling-on-california-microstamping-law/?intcmp=trending


California's gun laws are among the nation's strictest, but a looming decision in a federal lawsuit could effectively ban handguns altogether in the Golden State, according to plaintiffs who want a judge to toss out a state law requiring all new handguns to be equipped with technology that "stamps" each shell casing with a traceable mark.

The problem with the “microstamping” law, which was signed into law by then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007 but only took effect in 2013, is that it relies on an unworkable technology, according to gun manufacturers and attorneys for the Second Amendment Foundation and Calguns Foundation. If guns without the technology can't be sold in California, and gun manufacturers can't implement the technology, the law is, for practical purposes, a handgun ban that violates the Second Amendment, goes the argument.

[Alpha2]

So sad, so sad...I can never go home again. Back in the '50's, California was a mecca. Better schools, most of the kids I went to grade school with had moved there from the east for the schools. Can you imagine? So, so sad.
I left in the mid '70's, after an enlistment in the Coast Guard. I really thought that one day I'd return. Alas, it is not to be. I've got friends and associates there now, planning their escape. It's come to this. Such a rapid decline it makes my head spin. Kind of like the USA.

[wctriumph]

Alpha, I know what you mean. I moved here in late '99 for a job but I was already set to leave CA even without that job. It is way too crowded and too much crime. I always felt it was a great place with everything you could want but then the government went insane. Twice we elected a sheriff in OC because they said they would issue CCW permits. Guess what? They didn't. They just became more oppressive of the populace and seemed to exist only to generate revenue for the county and state. Illegals got welfare, gangs got bigger, they even pushed the biker gangs into the desert.

I was a member of the CA rifle and pistol association and wrote letters, made calls, went to city council meetings and on firearms issues we were ignored. Just like we were here in 2013. Show up by the 1000's and told we were the problem. CA has been fucked up for freedom loving citizens since the 1980's. My family still lives there but I am not going back there except for funerals.

It is a sad time for the state. It won't be too much longer before the cartels are running the state and the culture of violence takes a terrible toll on all who live there.

[HoneyBadger]

So glad to be moving there in May.... [off-yourself]


[shit-happens]

[wctriumph]

So glad to be moving there in May.... [off-yourself]


[shit-happens]


What ya gonna do with your guns? Most any gun is illegal in CA now. There ain't no grandfathering in CA, even for residents. Have you seen the list of guns that are not allowed?

In any case, good luck with the move to the land of fruits and nuts, you're gonna need it.

[HoneyBadger]

What ya gonna do with your guns? Most any gun is illegal in CA now. There ain't no grandfathering in CA, even for residents. Have you seen the list of guns that are not allowed?

In any case, good luck with the move to the land of fruits and nuts, you're gonna need it.
Arrangements have been made for most of my guns while I'm behind enemy lines. Surprisingly, Californians are pretty crafty and they've found many ways around the ridiculous laws, so I'll be able to bring a few guns for protection, but all of my "toys" are staying with family until I'm a free man again.

[Great-Kazoo]

What ya gonna do with your guns? Most any gun is illegal in CA now. There ain't no grandfathering in CA, even for residents. Have you seen the list of guns that are not allowed?

In any case, good luck with the move to the land of fruits and nuts, you're gonna need it.


What the list prohibits and what stores in CA are selling is 2 different things. Turners Outdoor had at least 2x as many black rifles then Liberty, Jensens and Bear Arms combined. Tavor's seemed to be a big seller since they don't have adjustable butt stock / pistol grip combos. ALL their AR's had every evil feature EXCEPT bayonet lug and standard mag release. They all had Bullet Buttons, of course their price for a basic CA compliant AR was $1200. Hell ammo was in stock AND competitively priced with CO.

Where there is a market, there are manufacturers designing and building parts as a work around of useless, feel good laws.

[Shiro]

If you think about it, local gun laws, even if they piss you off personally, are good for keeping your neighbors on their toes, and for affording opportunities to make court based challenges. Friends of mine who live in CA spend alot of time and thought on things like the bullet button, and end arounds for their laws.

[Dave]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-27/california-gun-microstamping-law-is-upheld-by-federal-judge

[hatidua]

If you think about it, local gun laws, even if they piss you off personally, are good for keeping your neighbors on their toes, and for affording opportunities to make court based challenges.

-not seeing how that dovetails with 'shall not be infringed', sorry.

[kidicarus13]

CA is F'ed

[Fromk]

As a former California resident I've been following this for a while. It was going to be appealed after either ruling. Hopefully it goes our way when it counts.

[Big E3]

I would like to see the list of all the guns available to the fine people of California that have micro stamping. Clearly this judge does not see this as infringing on the people of California's ability to bear arms. I see this embargo on California as a first step toward everybody having old guns that they keep rebuilding the same way cars are in Cuba from the 50's. I'm sure just like this judge, Fidel probably told everybody in Cuba no big deal we already have plenty of cars here. Communists are the same everywhere.