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Mista Bukit
07-23-2009, 08:42
I received this in an e-mail today, I forwarded it to a Liberal (friend?) I found his rant not very informed but intertaining



PLEASE! Read This if You Don't Read Anything Else Today



I just received this via e-mail from a friend...I have made no attempt to verify whether or not it was written by Dr. Kaiser. But, the facts in the post are facts that cannot be disputed...the historical records as well as current records verify what is in the article. Please read it in its entirety and then e-mail it to your friends...just get the message out to all that will read it.


Dr. David Kaiser is not a 'nut job' on the RNC payroll---- his words and observations
should send a very cold shiver from the base of your spine to the nap of your neck !!!

He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College and has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University. Kaiser's latest book, The Road to Dallas, about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by Harvard University Press.


Dr. David Kaiser

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
- Barack Obama


History Unfolding

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it.. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten... And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more important.)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning..

As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and .... . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for

If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.

So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.

David Kaiser
Jamestown , Rhode Island
United States

68Charger
07-23-2009, 09:17
Been in agreement with this since last October-

he never used the 'N' word, tho... (no, not the one you're thinking of)

Barry, Hitler, and a number of other dangerous world leaders all had this one in common: they're all Narcissists...
they have a 'haughty' behavior about them, they are "idea" people, and have other implement their ideas- if they don't work, then they blame the people delegated that they didn't do it right... NOTHING IS EVER THEIR FAULT.. and if you accuse them of being wrong, you get attacked...

SA Friday
07-23-2009, 12:05
If Dr David Kaiser wrote that, I would be shocked. It's full of claims, and hugely short of supporting information and detailed relationships. Far from what I would suspect from someone who's written as many college history text's as he claims.

I don't peticularly like Obama or his politics, but I currently don't see the number one thing we see publically from the fenatically dangerous rules of the past. He doesn't give speeches rallying the masses into a malicious lather. When I see that, I'll fear. Not until then.

jake
07-23-2009, 12:32
He didn't write it. He's stated as much on his blog.

theGinsue
07-23-2009, 12:42
I'd still love to see the response from Bukit's lib friend - I'll bet that it really is entertaining!

Mista Bukit
07-23-2009, 22:27
I'd still love to see the response from Bukit's lib friend - I'll bet that it really is entertaining!

I posted this here because I wanted intelligent discussion, so here is my friends response with no editing. I found it interesting for many different reasons but I want to hear others take on it before I comment.



8 years of republican rule has brought it to its knees former president george bush is the closest thing to a dictator this country has ever seen he eroded the constitution for his partys own gain. he fed big business with no oversight the man does not and will not ever give a damn about real americans that wear blue collars we are nothing but pawns to feed his big money machine. if you look closely he is the same size stature and same narrow beady eyes as adolph hitler. put on the mustache and the resemblance is uncanny the man tried to start up and give power to seperate division made up of mercenarys that had no oversight and no control by our government BLACKWATER was to be his SS STORMTROOPERS. all i ever hear from republicans is that we democrats are destroying everything. BULLSHIT we inherited 8 years of republicans telling me it was good to ship american jobs overseas the rich republican owners of those companys wanted cheap labor to line their pockets. with republican rule nothing would ever change , you all admit as republicans that we have serious problems in this country but forgot you were at the helm with full control for last 8 years and did nothing but line pockets of cpmpanys like haliburton by charging us taxp[ayers 29 dollars far a case of pepsi FOR OUR TROOPS you let our troops shower in unsafe stalls built by haliburton. ALL REPUBLICANS EVER DO IS FIND FAULT WITH EVERY THING DEMOCRATS DO BUT I DONT HEAR REPUBLICANS COMING UP WITH ANY GODDAMN IDEAS OF THERE OWN. JUST BUSINESS AS USUAL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS IS DEMOCRATS WOULD BE WILLING TO LISTEN AND ADOPT IDEAS FROM THE RIGHT BUT AS LONG AS JACKASSES LIKE RUSH DRUGGY LIMBAUGH ARE RUNNING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY YOU ARE TO BUSY TRASHING SOMEONE WITH IDEAS RIGHT OR WRONG TO COME UP WITH ANY OF YOUR OWN. I CAN FIND A LOT OF GOOD IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ADMIT THAT WE NEED THE RIGTH AND LEFT BOTH TO KEEP THE POWER OF THIS NATION IN CHECK. ITS A GODDAMN SHAME THE RIGHT CANT FIND ANY GOOD AT ALL IN THE LEFT AND WISHES ALL US LIBERAL PANSIES WOULD DIE. ADOLPH HITLER HAD THAT SAME ONE PARTY MY WAY HIGHWAY TRAIN OF THOUGHT AND LOOK WAT HE DID WITH IT. OUR FORE FATHERS NEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY ALLOWED TWO DIFFERNT TRAINS OF THOUGHT TO RUN THIS COUNTRY SO NO ONE MIND SET COULD EVER TAKE POWER UNCONTROLLABLY. I AM GLAD THAT MY PARTY COULD NOT EVER BE THE ONLY ONE BECAUSE WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES ID LIKE TO SEE A REPUBLICAN EVER ADMIT THAT.

futher more it is only the uneducated and disrespectful people that are not respecting our president of the usa. we didnt like bush but we had to respect him in office, its the american way, now respect the one in office now. or leave the country. if you educate yourself you will see he didnt just step out of a closet, he is a was a well known senator that did accomplish alot before running for office. at least he doesnt stand there and say he can see russia from his house. (hence, moron sarah palin, doesnt know jack shit.)
and pushes her power, she is oil and money hungry. but not too bright. is not at all open minded. another cheney she is

PsyKo
07-23-2009, 23:02
words cannot describe the level of fail in that reply...

it seems every problem he has with the bush admin we are either seeing now or are about to experience 10 fold from the messiah. left or right there is no difference theft is theft, even if the thief re-distributes the wealth to the poor.

GunTroll
07-23-2009, 23:08
All I can say is emotion driven ideas and run on sentences with no structure or proper punctuation. This person should have tried harder in school. Also the last line is like something out of star wars from Yoda's mouth....."another cheney she is". WTF is that?

My advise ...drop this friend. The dark side is strong in this one!

RRD3
07-23-2009, 23:34
"another cheney she is"


I get it... Yoda wrote that reply. [ROFL1]



The person who wrote the response posted is a complete and utter buffoon.
How in the fuck can you state this... "futher more it is only the uneducated and disrespectful people that are not respecting our president of the usa"
with out the grammar of a 10 year old?

Talk about calling the liberal pot black, hell no, it's burnt to a fucking crisp with stupidity!

GunTroll
07-23-2009, 23:46
OH how fun. Lets all take turns dissecting this liberal trash.

I'll start with this one.....

" if you educate yourself you will see he didnt just step out of a closet, he is a was a(<WHAT?) well known senator that did accomplish alot before running for office (LIKE?)" from libtard unkown.

Besides typing in such a hurry and looking like an iliterate turd with no grammer skills. Can't you just see this person foaming while typing this!

I would like to ask and say.....I haven't the clue what he did as a Senator other than run for President. Anyone else know what he did? Please enlighten me to what this mans GREAT accoplishments were.




Next....

DOC
07-24-2009, 03:00
I use the "N" word everytime I see him on TV and believe me that is a lot. You should try it sometime its liberating. If you don't like the word "Ninja" you can use "Knuckles" or "Knickers".

Have a great day.

jake
07-24-2009, 07:57
To be fair I can see the person who wrote the original rant foaming as they wrote it too. And let's face it, there's poor 'grammer' on both sides of the coin. Plus the original piece failed as soon as a comparison was drawn between the rise of Nazi Germany and the rise of a centrist American president.

68Charger
07-24-2009, 08:49
To be fair I can see the person who wrote the original rant foaming as they wrote it too. And let's face it, there's poor 'grammer' on both sides of the coin. Plus the original piece failed as soon as a comparison was drawn between the rise of Nazi Germany and the rise of a centrist American president.

It's sad that they pass it off as someone else's opinion, too.
I do see the similarities, but it's in personality. To deny that it's possible for anything like the rise of Hitler to occur in this country is dangerous. We need to be aware of history, or it it doomed to repeat itself. It may not happen the same way twice, but there is a pattern in history when narcissists rise to power.

I've seen liberals try to say that George W. was a narcissist- but when pressed to explain, it's apparent that they don't know the signs. Everyone has narcissist tendencies, but Barry has it to the level of a personality disorder (IMHO, and in the professional opinions of at least some experts on narcissism).

As a final note, I would never use the word "centrist" to describe our current president.

Mtn.man
07-24-2009, 09:23
We have a President?

PsyKo
07-24-2009, 09:27
not to detract from the tard bashing too much, i get basically the same type of response from almost everyone i talk to about the One. either they go off on an ignorant rant like the above or they say "cant be worse than bush". those are the kind of statements that will allow the asshole and his libtard friends to get away with just about anything they try, which in turn may get a lot of Americans killed. end rant :)

Pancho Villa
07-24-2009, 09:58
That time in history is a special area of interest for me. There are few good books written on the cause (most historians lack the philosophical training to analyze the long-scale cultural trends and what caused them.) Basically, the core causes of the rise of the Nazis are philosophical. The kind of philosophical atmosphere required for the rise of a totalitarian state are as follows:

1) The denial of reality as objective and independent of the viewer (ie "What is true for you may not be true for me.")

2) The denial of reason as a means to knowledge, and/or a supplementing of reason with a "higher" means of knowledge (faith in god, faith in der fuhrer, "aryan logic," "intuitions," "calls of the blood," "wise latinas," etc.) which is held as superior to reason

3) As a consequence of 1 and 2, the denial of individual humans' ability to singly tackle reality and the elevation of the group's ability to do so (ie our reality is shaped by whatever collective we belong to.)

4) As a consequence of 3, politically, the advocation of the subordination of the individual to the group interest, "for the greater good."

All of these philosophical stances are present, to a greater or lesser degree, in our culture today. They were present to a huge degree in the Weimer Republic. Most people do not consciously identify those as core philosophical ideas, but they hold them as kind of an unquestioned absolute that they absorb without much question from the intellectuals at the time. These ideas intellectually disarmed the citizens of Weimer against what the Nazis preached. None of them could point to anything the Nazis said and say anything but that they were idealists, striving for a perfect society. The results of the perfect society - from the premise of accepting the 4 philosophical points above - are a matter of record.

We are definitely headed in that direction culturally. The major obstacle, right now, to any totalitarian state (dictatorship or democracy-based) is that Americans still demand prosperity. Contrary to common opinion, Germany was not more but less prosperous after the Nazis took over; and the only way the Nazi state was able to sustain itself (and indeed even its own army) was by constantly being at war and looting the countries it conquered. The most likely way that Americans will be taught to worship poverty and deprivation is a combination of old-style religion and environmentalism, the combination of which you can begin to see in Obama's rhetoric (regardless of whether he buys it or not personally, it resonates with a great deal of people.)

Rampart Runner
07-24-2009, 10:32
4) As a consequence of 3, politically, the advocation of the subordination of the individual to the group interest, "for the greater good."

The major obstacle, right now, to any totalitarian state (dictatorship or democracy-based) is that Americans still demand prosperity.
emphasis mine

Cultural trends are influenced by the transition of the reigns of power from one generation to the next. We are in such a transition now. I expect to see a further demand for economic equipollence with a focus on the end results. When a political majority can vote to spend wealth that does not exist yet the old fashioned idea that the limited role of government is only to ensure the unencumbered pursuit of happiness will fall away. Unlike Weimer, we have been able to issue debt in our own currency rather than a foreign one, enabling us to shift the losses of a fall in the value of the dollar to our creditors. One day that debt will either have to be repaid or defaulted on. The entitlements that are so popular with BOTH major political parties will either be reversed in a painful way or we will go to war with our creditors. History shows that war is the more likely scenario.

RR

GunTroll
07-24-2009, 10:56
You guys are being too nice and trying to preach to the choir. Well other than RRD3.[Beer]

I like this line....

"OUR FORE FATHERS NEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY ALLOWED TWO DIFFERNT TRAINS OF THOUGHT TO RUN THIS COUNTRY SO NO ONE MIND SET COULD EVER TAKE POWER UNCONTROLLABLY" Unknown libtard.

And this is what is happening now??? Do libtards really believe this current Government is not taking power uncontrollably and rather playing fair? Bush JR didn't have a republican congress backing him. Now that was fair. How about practice what you preach!

Rampart Runner
07-24-2009, 11:10
Bush JR didn't have a republican congress backing him. Now that was fair. How about practice what you preach!

And yet look how far he (Bush) managed to grow the scope and size of government. Both major parties love to grow the power of the state. The only difference I can see between them lately is that they have their own lists of favorites that they cater to. I am a former Republican county delegate who is disenchanted with all of the "small government" talk but no action from the party at the local, county, state, and especially federal level.

RR

Pancho Villa
07-24-2009, 11:19
emphasis mine

Cultural trends are influenced by the transition of the reigns of power from one generation to the next. We are in such a transition now. I expect to see a further demand for economic equipollence with a focus on the end results. When a political majority can vote to spend wealth that does not exist yet the old fashioned idea that the limited role of government is only to ensure the unencumbered pursuit of happiness will fall away. Unlike Weimer, we have been able to issue debt in our own currency rather than a foreign one, enabling us to shift the losses of a fall in the value of the dollar to our creditors. One day that debt will either have to be repaid or defaulted on. The entitlements that are so popular with BOTH major political parties will either be reversed in a painful way or we will go to war with our creditors. History shows that war is the more likely scenario.

RR

Actually, Weimer in the roaring 20s issued massive amounts of debt, just like we are now. It was financed by - foreign investors. Primarily the US, actually, which was in a phase of systemic overinvestment caused by The Fed. When the US system crashed and Weimer's debts were all called in, the German depression began and the hyperinflation that Weimer was famous for started.

To any diligent student of the interwar German years, things - economically and philosophically - are starting to look errily familiar. This latest round of McCain and the GOP backing sacrifice for the community and service to one's country - just not as much service and sacrifice as Obama - looks a lot like the Weimer politics, too.

Rampart Runner
07-24-2009, 11:34
Actually, Weimer (sic) in the roaring 20s issued massive amounts of debt, just like we are now. It was financed by - foreign investors.

Weimar's debt was denominated in foreign currencies...a subtle yet significant difference as compared to OUR debt denominated in OUR currency. Another words the debt of the republic needed to be repaid in a currency other than the republic's own currency in order to satisfy the foreigners. Our foreigners only have to be paid back with our currency regardless of how much we debase it.

This is the uncomfortable conundrum that large debt holders such as China face. They don't like staying in US$ denominated debt instruments but if they try to extricate themselves they 1) have no better alternative at the moment and 2) they risk the devaluation of their remaining instruments etc. as they start to unload.

GunTroll
07-24-2009, 11:39
And yet look how far he (Bush) managed to grow the scope and size of government. Both major parties love to grow the power of the state. The only difference I can see between them lately is that they have their own lists of favorites that they cater to. I am a former Republican county delegate who is disenchanted with all of the "small government" talk but no action from the party at the local, county, state, and especially federal level.

RR

This is true! I'm no great fan but rather a believer in the party not the current leaders (or lack there of).

Pancho Villa
07-24-2009, 12:02
Guntroll,

You're a great guy and I almost always like what you post. I suggest, respectfully, though, that you check your premises about the Republican party and the conservative movement in general.

It is my honest, thought out opinion that neither group will ever advanced human liberty in the long term. I think upon some reflection about their rhetoric, ideals and actual accomplishments (which are few and far between) that advance liberty, you will see that neither the GOP nor the conservative movement is effective at campaigning for liberty.

BadShot
07-24-2009, 13:21
I know we've gotten back to the basic premise of the ramblings from both perspectives, but here's the deal on the author:

In April 2009, an essay comparing Barack Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) to the rise of the Third Reich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Reich) was wrongly [1] (http://historyunfolding.blogspot.com/2009/05/foreign-policy-wisdom.html) attributed to Kaiser; Snopes.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com) [2] (http://snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp) traced the essay to an anonymous commenter on Pat Dollard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Dollard)'s blog.

GunTroll
07-24-2009, 13:44
Very true to the point that neither parties are looking out for your/my liberties in the long run. I'm no devout Republican. However I am a rookie gunsmith who would like to make a go at making gunsmithing my profession and there for my source of income. I have to align myself with the party that best protects my interest......guns. Now I know there are GOPers that aren't exactly "gun freindly" but over all the party is pro second amendment and pro business. Don't bother giving me examples of GOPers not being so "gun friendly" because I know of plenty. For that I look beyond the party and more towards the person/candidate and see their position on the matter. McCain wasn't my buddy when it came to guns. I know of no big league DEM that is very pro gun. I know they exist but they seem to never make it big time and the rest of the core beliefs of the DEMS turn me off. All the other parties just aren't strong enough for a legitimate run at the white house. And I do like some of the other or third party candidates. Got to go with the party that best represents me. For me its guns and the republicans represent that interest better than dems.

Pancho, I like your intelligent comments and welcome your point of view![Beer]

With that being said, what party works for you? You do vote? Don't have to tell who but you didn't vote for a "third party" did you? And no disrespect guys against you libertarian and other party followers but I feel you have to get in the game and stop dreaming of yesteryears and or the future when the third party guys will have/did have a chance. This doesn't work when the Dems are so good at pushing their agenda and getting the uneducated, emotional voters to come over to their side. I have to say it but a vote for a third party is a vote for your enemies. Mine being the Liberal/progressives= DEM. What needs to happen and I feel it is somewhat, is a total restructuring of the Republican party. The current majority of members fail to meet the standards of yesterdays republicans. The conservative movement Pancho isn't bad. Family,religion,small gov,and business are but of a few that mean something to me.

Jeff350
07-24-2009, 14:05
I think the libs "comma" and "shift" keys are broken. CAPS LOCK works though, apparently!

One point that I wanted to make is that he claims that Dems respected Bush in office, so we should support President Obama in office. BS! If you ever listened to any Lib talk radio, they were downright ruthless and cruel when talking about Bush. They didn't show an ounce of respect to the man and the office. (Think Randi Rhodes)

Personally I am trying to be better than that and show some respect to the current President, but he sure is making it hard!

jake
07-26-2009, 14:59
As a final note, I would never use the word "centrist" to describe our current president.
I would imagine, and correct me if I'm wrong, that's because he is to the left of your place on the political spectrum. However, he's to the right of my place on the political spectrum, and certainly to the right of the British Labour Party, which ceased being a socialist party years ago. If anything, he's more akin to a left leaning Conservative (capital C as I'm referring to the party).