View Full Version : Judge Tosses Suit from Aurora Theater Victim’s Family, Orders Them to Pay Ammo Company’s Court Costs
Heh, heh...ha...ha Ha! OMG HA HA HA HA!!!
Lucky Gunner and Sportmen's Guide get their defense costs back from those trying to sue ammo dealers for acting lawfully.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/23/judge-tosses-suit-from-aurora-theater-victims-family-orders-them-to-pay-ammo-companys-court-costs/
Zombie Steve
04-24-2015, 17:23
Dear Brady Center,
Eat a bag of shit.
Your pal,
-ZS
theGinsue
04-24-2015, 17:23
Finally. Common sense in it's true form as it applies firearms.
BlasterBob
04-24-2015, 17:36
Now let's see more "common sense" get's used in future such suits.[blaster]
68Charger
04-24-2015, 17:59
Now let's see more "common sense" get's used in future such suits.[blaster]
If common sense were really common, then there would not be any more lawsuits like this... they should know what the outcome is going to be, right?
The attorneys should be disbarred as well for bringing a ridiculous lawsuit..... At least sanction them
Bailey Guns
04-24-2015, 18:53
Why am I so surprised the system actually worked?
68Charger
04-24-2015, 18:57
The comments in this thread could be perceived as callous- So I thought I'd try to summarize what we really mean.
While we feel sorry for the victims of this horrible tragedy, we feel the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of Mr. Holmes, and those that failed to remove him from society for being a raving psychopath. This should in no way be blamed on people or companies for using or providing the same products or services.
We resent being punished for the actions of deranged individuals, it implies that we are as well.
There are 100's of millions of responsible gun owners who never harm anyone.
Anyone care to add?
^ that's good!
And great news!!!
Gcompact30
04-24-2015, 19:53
Finally someone uses common sense
The comments in this thread could be perceived as callous- So I thought I'd try to summarize what we really mean.
While we feel sorry for the victims of this horrible tragedy, we feel the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of Mr. Holmes, and those that failed to remove him from society for being a raving psychopath. This should in no way be blamed on people or companies for using or providing the same products or services.
We resent being punished for the actions of deranged individuals, it implies that we are as well.
There are 100's of millions of responsible gun owners who never harm anyone.
Anyone care to add?
Pretty much nailed it. The blame for this senseless tragedy lies with the man that pulled the trigger, no one else.
Article says the court costs were $224,000. Now are the victim's families going to be paying that out of their pocket? If so, how many? Man that would bankrupt most folks. Gotta feel sorry for them on one hand, but I guess that is what you get when you try and stunt like this. The losers keep piling up in the wake of that shitbag's rough night.
Article says the court costs were $224,000. Now are the victim's families going to be paying that out of their pocket? If so, how many? Man that would bankrupt most folks. Gotta feel sorry for them on one hand, but I guess that is what you get when you try and stunt like this. The losers keep piling up in the wake of that shitbag's rough night.
The families that brought the action will be responsible for it. Each one that signed on to do it.
Now, their lawyer(s) are fucked If they took it on a contingency fee.
There is a lawyer who will bring action for anything that $$ is in
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
Honey Badger282.8
04-24-2015, 21:22
I'm glad the companies won't have to pay the legal fees associated with this ludicrous suit, that said I'm hoping it's the Brady Campaign and not the families that have to pay.
DenverGP
04-24-2015, 21:22
The parents both work for the Brady Campaign. They were not duped by the Brady bunch or some ambulance chasing lawyer. They were trying to use their daughter's death to infringe the rights of millions of Americans who committed no crime at all.
Honey Badger282.8
04-24-2015, 21:28
The parents both work for the Brady Campaign. They were not duped by the Brady bunch or some ambulance chasing lawyer. They were trying to use their daughter's death to infringe the rights of millions of Americans who committed no crime at all.
If that's true then I feel less bad about them footing the bill for a quarter mil.
If that's true then I feel less bad about them footing the bill for a quarter mil.
I sympathize with the loss of their daughter, but attempting to capitalize on it falls squarely into the "stupid should be painful" category.
buffalobo
04-24-2015, 21:58
The families will end up paying little or nothing in the end.
The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence will foot the bill.
While the family were willing participants, The Brady Center needed them as the victims to forward The Brady Center agenda. Attempting to force legitimate legal businesses out of business has always been part of that agenda. "Punish those evil bastards" has always been part of that agenda.
All they needed the family for was "Go for it" and maybe some sappy PR.
Great-Kazoo
04-24-2015, 22:05
Article says the court costs were $224,000. Now are the victim's families going to be paying that out of their pocket? If so, how many? Man that would bankrupt most folks. Gotta feel sorry for them on one hand, but I guess that is what you get when you try and stunt like this. The losers keep piling up in the wake of that shitbag's rough night.
Hopefully they will not start wearing sneakers.
No parent should bury a child, I can't imagine what they went through and continue to go through but this (happened a month ago btw and was widely reported at that time, well at least in the Denver Post and a couple of tv stations had it) was a very sad, distorted and misdirected attempt at holding anyone but the demon pulling the trigger responsible.
The circus starts Monday, knew quite a few people on the DA's witness list and really hope the scumbag (I refuse to type/utter his name) is found sane, guilty and gets the death penalty (won't hold my breath on that one).
No parent should bury a child...
Actually, that's a modern, first world view.
It's sad when it happens, but I don't think this was a common statement even as recent as the early 20th century.
That aside, logic indicates that going after a legal business for the illegal actions of an individual are misguided.
When someone firebombs a dance club, do they go after the gas station where they bought the gasoline or the company selling matches? Does a family sue General Motors for the actions of a drunk driver in a Pontiac?
Singlestack
04-25-2015, 06:52
Wonder if the Bradies will appeal this, and if so, likelihood of success? I would think low.
Love to the the coffers of the lefties depleted somewhat...
The attorneys should be disbarred as well for bringing a ridiculous lawsuit..... At least sanction them
This is a great point that shouldn't be overlooked. It's time the attorneys (usually the person responsible for 'selling' the idea of a frivolous lawsuit to his clients in the first place w/the idea of a big payday) are held accountable for their actions as well. This is where the problem starts. Start out with fines (like their clients received) that go to victim relief funds or something useful & work up to temporary suspension of license & finally disbarment. It's time we started attacking the root of these problems.
Great-Kazoo
04-25-2015, 08:02
This is a great point that shouldn't be overlooked. It's time the attorneys (usually the person responsible for 'selling' the idea of a frivolous lawsuit to his clients in the first place w/the idea of a big payday) are held accountable for their actions as well. This is where the problem starts. Start out with fines (like their clients received) that go to victim relief funds or something useful & work up to temporary suspension of license & finally disbarment. It's time we started attacking the root of these problems.
That's part of Tort Reform. NO FRIVOLOUS lawsuits. Which representatives from both sides refused to vote on, surprise.
Hopefully they will not start wearing sneakers.
I see what you did there... [emoji102]
That's part of Tort Reform. NO FRIVOLOUS lawsuits. Which representatives from both sides refused to vote on, surprise.
Why should lawyers & health care providers be held responsible for their actions & how they affect society? Politicians don't.
ZERO THEORY
04-25-2015, 09:23
Double-edged sword. You know the antis are going to have a field day claiming that the government is protecting those evil gun companies, and that the NRA has their fingers in the system, and the right wing nutjobs punish innocent families for seeking justice.
As far as I'm concerned, the suit was a win-win for the left.
osok-308
04-25-2015, 10:19
The comments in this thread could be perceived as callous- So I thought I'd try to summarize what we really mean.
While we feel sorry for the victims of this horrible tragedy, we feel the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of Mr. Holmes, and those that failed to remove him from society for being a raving psychopath. This should in no way be blamed on people or companies for using or providing the same products or services.
We resent being punished for the actions of deranged individuals, it implies that we are as well.
There are 100's of millions of responsible gun owners who never harm anyone.
Anyone care to add?
This sums it up perfectly. Well stated. Obviously our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their families. No family should have to go through such a situation, which is why we all advocate for good men and women to be armed and prevent themselves from being victimized by such predators as James Holmes.
The Brady Center just became part of a valuable life lesson (not that they learned anything from it).... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
That is what I was thinking. From the perspective of those less familiar with firearms, this will look like a cruel NRA plot to punish the victims. Perspective is everything, and sure we see it as a victory for gun rights, but are we the people that need convincing? Nope. That is why the Brady campaign signed on to this, they knew win or lose that they would have the victims in their corner and that it could be used for propaganda later on. I bet they did not count on getting stuck with the legal fees though.
If the perception is the victims' families have damages that need to be resolved, there are other liable parties who are DIRECTLY responsible for what Holmes did to include CU (therapist and campus PD) and his parents who supported him knowing his mental state and the danger that posed.
The lawsuit against ammo retailers is political and I think a lot of people get that.
Double-edged sword. You know the antis are going to have a field day claiming that the government is protecting those evil gun companies, and that the NRA has their fingers in the system, and the right wing nutjobs punish innocent families for seeking justice.
As far as I'm concerned, the suit was a win-win for the left.
I disagree. It's a win for common sense. This battle isn't impossible. The battle is half lost if we are always on the defensive. We need more wins in the courts and more votes that go our way. Big Bears appleseed projects is the kind of things that will bring people around. Need a nation of shooters.
dustdevil
04-26-2015, 14:26
This is a win for gun owners. It has to be understood what the antigun proponents are trying to do. They have brought this and other law suits against everything gun related for one reason. They are pursuing changing how gun are viewed under tort law. They want to make guns an ultrahazardous activity where strict liability was the rule to be followed. This is not new. It has consistently been tried for a number of years and so far has failed.
http://www.quora.com/Why-did-Congress-grant-firearms-manufacturers-an-exemption-from-product-liability-lawsuits-Is-this-a-good-thing
This lawsuit was an old school attack by the antigunners.
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