Is Hillary really running?

[davsel]

I've been wondering for a while why Hillary, with all her baggage, is running for POTUS.
I know, I never thought Obama, with all his baggage, stood a chance, but people are ignorant.

Still, I am starting to suspect Hillary is not really running to win. She is running as a distraction only.
She has enough money to blow without needing to win.
The more time and money her opposition must spend fighting against her, leaves less money to fight an actual Dem candidate.
Also, the Dems don't seem thrilled with her, so their eventual, actual candidate will be considered a blessing to the Dem base when Hillary pulls out of the race.

Just a thought.

Then again, Obama got reelected.

[TFOGGER]

Elizabeth Warren is the real candidate. The media is cooperating by allowing Hillary to be smeared, and draining R resources in the process.

[Great-Kazoo]

HRC is IN IT TO WIN IT. because she's entitled to as a woman. Not to mention she is "married" to AMERICAS FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT.

[roberth]

Yes, Hillary is running, not well mind you but she is running.

The Klintons aren't about money, they're about power and Hillary sees what Obama does with EOs and she wants that power too. Bill, he just wants to get laid at the White House again, sexual predation is just another form of power.

[BPTactical]

Hillary running?
No way, those nasty beef curtains are so flabby she waddles when she walks......

[Aardvark]

ew...the thought of that could make one gay

[Great-Kazoo]

ew...the thought of that could make one gay

You know what The Diceman says..

[Mtn.man]

I said she is a distraction, the real dem will surface soon. and she will through her support behind them.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Hillary is running for real because she's always wanted it. She's not responding effectively because she thinks she's entitled to the job and can't believe any of this stuff is surfacing. She is the most self-entitled, corrupt, incompetent politician in America (and that's saying a lot considering the current occupant of the Oval Office) which makes her very dangerous if she gets into a position of power but also makes her an incredibly ineffective candidate. She is depending on the American public being as ignorant, gullible, and just plain stupid as Barack Obama's re-election proved they could be.

You're seeing the NYT and WP and other Dems jumping on the stop Hillary bandwagon solely because they perceive a Republican could actually win against Hillary and they want to keep "evolving" America.

[BPTactical]

Insert Valerie Jarrett

[Aardvark]

My fear is the real Damn...er, dem, is that s-bag 0'malley...the one and same that taxed rain, ran corrupt politics, played like the Wisconsin libs using the police to do his dirty bidding, and ruined Maryland.

[sniper7]

Smart strong women should shun her. She wouldn't even get rid of a low life cheating husband.

[hollohas]

I have been thinking the same thing since long before her announcement. There was just no urgency or media support. Seemed odd to me.

I do think she is really running but I don't think the Dems behind the curtain support her. To Hillary, she is next in line a deserves it. However the Dems seem to have someone else they'd want but they are keeping it quiet for now. I think it's the Dem establishment that is going to attack HRC the hardest. It's already pretty clear the admin is leaking stuff about her and I think the media is on board. Her own side is going to destory her. And that's too bad. The enemy you know is far better than the one you don't. Whoever the Dems end up supporting is going to be far worse than her.

[Rucker61]

I have been thinking the same thing since long before her announcement. There was just no urgency or media support. Seemed odd to me.

I do think she is really running but I don't think the Dems behind the curtain support her. To Hillary, she is next in line a deserves it. However the Dems seem to have someone else they'd want but they are keeping it quiet for now. I think it's the Dem establishment that is going to attack HRC the hardest. It's already pretty clear the admin is leaking stuff about her and I think the media is on board. Her own side is going to destory her. And that's too bad. The enemy you know is far better than the one you don't. Whoever the Dems end up supporting is going to be far worse than her.

Can someone more liberal than Hillary capture the necessary middle votes to win?

[Bmac]

Hillary is running for real because she's always wanted it. She's not responding effectively because she thinks she's entitled to the job and can't believe any of this stuff is surfacing. She is the most self-entitled, corrupt, incompetent politician in America (and that's saying a lot considering the current occupant of the Oval Office) which makes her very dangerous if she gets into a position of power but also makes her an incredibly ineffective candidate. She is depending on the American public being as ignorant, gullible, and just plain stupid as Barack Obama's re-election proved they could be.

You're seeing the NYT and WP and other Dems jumping on the stop Hillary bandwagon solely because they perceive a Republican could actually win against Hillary and they want to keep "evolving" America.

HUZZAH, Sir!!

[hollohas]

Can someone more liberal than Hillary capture the necessary middle votes to win?
The entire population has shifted left. "Middle" votes aren't middle anymore...so yes some more liberal can win IMO...

In fact, I believe BO is more left than her and he won easily.

[Singlestack]

They say that idealogically, Hillary is much closer to Beeho than Bill. She seems to be quite the power-grabbing narcissist that Beeho is, and I believe she is running for real. I also believe the Dem establishment, party, and major donors are watching closely to see if the scandels continue to have legs. If they do, they won't think twice about taking he down and ....voila!.....a new Dem candidate or two emerges. Personally, I hope Hillary remains the dem nominee since I believe she is a terrible campaigner and is very, very beatable.

[Great-Kazoo]

The entire population has shifted left. "Middle" votes aren't middle anymore...so yes some more liberal can win IMO...

In fact, I believe BO is more left than her and he won easily.


Like this guy ?
https://berniesanders.com/

[roberth]

At least Bernie is honest, I can appreciate a little honesty in my enemy.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Bernie Sanders is a Socialist POS ... having said that, he's a saint compared to Hillary and fairly honest about his liberalism. I may well swap my registration to Democrat so I can vote against her in the primaries but the last time I did that didn't turn out very well ...

[electronman1729]

Sorry to say this

But I kind of hope so. Her running could mean my retirement before I hit 30.

[Great-Kazoo]

Bernie Sanders is a Socialist POS ... having said that, he's a saint compared to Hillary and fairly honest about his liberalism. I may well swap my registration to Democrat so I can vote against her in the primaries but the last time I did that didn't turn out very well ...

IMO he's the wild card OR will drop will divert the vote to HRC from middle of the road D's. I'd really like to see him hammer her highness on overseas donations.
I'd also like to see the R's drop the whole Bengazi and Obamacare spiel. While valid issues, it's not something the R's should focus on. Hell i'm tired of hearing it.
Focus on something the indecisive voter will pay attention to. Alas that will not happen since the R's will once again get caught saying something so bizarre even R's will roll their eyes.

[davsel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ol6IkuV24A

[Zundfolge]

Hillary is running to win. Now whether the rest of her party is using her as a distraction or not is anyone's guess (I believe that's what they did to her in '08).

I still fear that the 2016 election is a moot point ... that like the collapse of the housing and mortgage markets engineered by the Democrats in 2008 to derail McCain, the dems have a "surprise crisis" of some sort planned for 2016 that will end up getting out of hand.

[hollohas]

... the dems have a "surprise crisis" of some sort planned for 2016 that will end up getting out of hand.

Student loan debt crisis? It's not nearly as big as the "housing crisis" but $1.4T in "debt forgivness" for all the "poor" grads with student loan debt for educations they can't use at jobs that don't exisit would certainly throw a wrench in the economy.

[JohnnyDrama]

Seems like most of the individuals I know who managed to accrue buttloads of debt while acquiring pointless degrees don't care to vote.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Seems like most of the individuals I know who managed to accrue buttloads of debt while acquiring pointless degrees don't care to vote.

I don't know about that. Most of the individuals I know who fit that description are dedicated D voters. One gal has been ready for Hillary for the last 14 years [Bang] despite all the baggage that corrupt swine carries. Hell, even her liberal-as-hell mother thinks Hillary is a corrupt dangerous incompetent moron (but she'll still vote D to stop the "Republican War on Women" [Bang][Rant1] ).