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So I didn't get far into the other thread before it disappeared.
I am thinking it got way off topic.
Keep this one on task please because to me this is a real threat, and I would like to know if anyone else prepares for this and what things you have in place to defend against something like this.
I'll start.
Both myself and my wife have "get home bags" with extra ammo in each of our cars to help with defending ourselves on our way home.
If we are far from home (longer than an hour drive) I have more substantial defense tools that are taken with us.
We have a code word that we work into a sentenceso we know that borth of us are on our way home and to use the HAM radio at regular intervals along the way to let us know we are doing okay.
Once we get home. I plan on not allowing any ammunition/firearms getting into the looters hands. They break the threshold of my home, they are dead.
I am trying to figure out how I would cover windows easily and quickly. Like pre-cut sheets of plywood bolted to the windows somehow.
As it is I am going to actually have some 3M security film installed on windows that can be entered from the ground floor. It will slow them down long enough to line up the thugs for an easier shot.
Great-Kazoo
04-28-2015, 09:10
So I didn't get far into the other thread before it disappeared.
I am thinking it got way off topic.
Keep this one on task please because to me this is a real threat, and I would like to know if anyone else prepares for this and what things you have in place to defend against something like this.
I'll start.
Both myself and my wife have "get home bags" with extra ammo in each of our cars to help with defending ourselves on our way home.
If we are far from home (longer than an hour drive) I have more substantial defense tools that are taken with us.
We have a code word that we work into a sentenceso we know that borth of us are on our way home and to use the HAM radio at regular intervals along the way to let us know we are doing okay.
Once we get home. I plan on not allowing any ammunition/firearms getting into the looters hands. They break the threshold of my home, they are dead.
I am trying to figure out how I would cover windows easily and quickly. Like pre-cut sheets of plywood bolted to the windows somehow.
As it is I am going to actually have some 3M security film installed on windows that can be entered from the ground floor. It will slow them down long enough to line up the thugs for an easier shot.
You will not be shooting ANYBODY. What you will do is defend yourself based upon the belief you or a loved one is in Imminent Danger / In Fear for your life. WITHOUT being able to "take flight" you choose to Fight.
IF there was a threat, you should have security bars that could be added to back up the security film. I believe / deel having some form of obstacle like rose bushes or other ground shrubs deters entry through ground floor windows.
However there is or was a member who's a fireman that takes issue with such items under windows one may need to exit in case of fire. One should decide for them self what they feel is a priority.
AS for social unrest. In this town Very unlikely, not to mention just about EVERYONE in town is armed. Neither of us works, or is far from the homestead, so that's a non-issue.
You will not be shooting ANYBODY. What you will do is defend yourself based upon the belief you or a loved one is in Imminent Danger / In Fear for your life. WITHOUT being able to "take flight" you choose to Fight.
IF there was a threat, you should have security bars that could be added to back up the security film. I believe / deel having some form of obstacle like rose bushes or other ground shrubs deters entry through ground floor windows.
However there is or was a member who's a fireman that takes issue with such items under windows one may need to exit in case of fire. One should decide for them self what they feel is a priority.
AS for social unrest. In this town Very unlikely, not to mention just about EVERYONE in town is armed. Neither of us works, or is far from the homestead, so that's a non-issue.
You are right Jim.
As far as obstacles around windows like my raspberry bushes and rose bushes. If I have a fire behind me, and rose bushes in front of me, I would hope that I would have the sense to wade through the bushes to safety, because fire hurts more and will kill me faster than bushes.
Where I am, I think I would be closer to ground zero than up by where you are. To me it is a real possibility that things would get bad in the town center of Aurora during demonstrations or whatever, get a little out of hand, and then spread a few miles to where I am.
This is part of the reason I live where I live. I avoid major cities as much as possible. I'd sit in my home, ready to defend myself and loved ones from anyone that tried to come hurt us. If all else failed, Id grab my camper and head to the hills til things died down.
thvigil11
04-28-2015, 09:41
This is one of the many reasons my wife and I left our well paying jobs in Denver to live out here on the frontier. No regrets as of yet. Nearest neighbor is a mile or so away and if they get rowdy, then I've got some time to figure out how to handle it.
RCCrawler
04-28-2015, 11:00
If all else failed, Id grab my camper and head to the hills til things died down.
My guess is I-70, 285, ect will all be parking lots, because everyone has that plan. "Run for the hills" While I do have a cabin in the remote Colorado mountains, I think if the shit hit the fan I'd be heading to the 1000+ acres my family owns in western Kansas. It's got 2 lakes and a river for food and water, crops everywhere, more deer than you'd know what to do with and is 15+ miles from a paved road, and even if you get to any part of the fence line you can't see anything of value, or any sign that someone may be there.
Heading east would be pretty easy, if the highways were all plugged most 4wds could handle just getting out there and pointing east through the fields.
My guess is I-70, 285, ect will all be parking lots, because everyone has that plan. "Run for the hills" While I do have a cabin in the remote Colorado mountains, I think if the shit hit the fan I'd be heading to the 1000+ acres my family owns in western Kansas. It's got 2 lakes and a river for food and water, crops everywhere, more deer than you'd know what to do with and is 15+ miles from a paved road, and even if you get to any part of the fence line you can't see anything of value, or any sign that someone may be there.
Heading east would be pretty easy, if the highways were all plugged most 4wds could handle just getting out there and pointing east through the fields.
Correct. Im 3 miles west of Franktown. I'd hit 86 out east to I70 then onto Kansas where I have some extended family. When I say hills, I just mean away from people.
Avoidance. Defensive capabilities. Fire Mitigation. Bug-In. Re-evaluate mobility after the weak die off.
I will take pictures and video of the looters who come to my house, and let them know they are being filmed.
I will then call 911 and wait for the authorities to arrive.
If they continue their activities, I will lock myself and my family in the basement of our home where I've installed a deadbolt on the door to the stairs.
We keep a bag of gorp and a six pack of Gatorade down there to satisfy the kids while we wait for the police.
I also keep a can of bear spray hidden in the basement, just in case. My wife does not approve, but I believe it may be necessary if push comes to shove.
Great-Kazoo
04-28-2015, 12:36
This is one of the many reasons my wife and I left our well paying jobs in Denver to live out here on the frontier. No regrets as of yet. Nearest neighbor is a mile or so away and if they get rowdy, then I've got some time to figure out how to handle it.
In NM???[ROFL3] You live in the Land of Mañana. I'll Get to it Tomorrow.
thvigil11
04-28-2015, 13:06
In NM???[ROFL3] You live in the Land of Mañana. I'll Get to it Tomorrow.
That's right, buddy. I said I'll have time to figure it out later. Right now I've got a whole lot of nothing to do. And that takes all my concentration! [hammer]
I will take pictures and video of the looters who come to my house, and let them know they are being filmed.
I will then call 911 and wait for the authorities to arrive.
If they continue their activities, I will lock myself and my family in the basement of our home where I've installed a deadbolt on the door to the stairs.
We keep a bag of gorp and a six pack of Gatorade down there to satisfy the kids while we wait for the police.
I also keep a can of bear spray hidden in the basement, just in case. My wife does not approve, but I believe it may be necessary if push comes to shove.
hahahahahaha I read so much sarcasm and irony in this.
We're tucked into the southern part of suburbia, but we're close to the beltway and a big mall. Fortunately, we've got no pot shops in this county; unfortunately, we're near the county line road.
We'd bug in; our home will be a safe haven for our family/friends and some elderly neighbors.
That being said, I've go a lot to do to get things prepared- such as the pre-cut plywood boards for our windows. It's time to switch out the winter gear in our Get-home bags.
Bug in and camp on the top floor patio with a noise maker for warning Korean shop keeper style.
4wd up and over Rampart Range Rd / Forest roads to Woodland Park.
Head out to our cabin in the woods from there.
Pour an Oban and fire up the YouTubes to watch the festivities.
I will take pictures and video of the looters who come to my house, and let them know they are being filmed.
I will then call 911 and wait for the authorities to arrive.
If they continue their activities, I will lock myself and my family in the basement of our home where I've installed a deadbolt on the door to the stairs.
We keep a bag of gorp and a six pack of Gatorade down there to satisfy the kids while we wait for the police.
I also keep a can of bear spray hidden in the basement, just in case. My wife does not approve, but I believe it may be necessary if push comes to shove.
Ohh bear spray... Just in case. Great idea. I was planning on using my crawl space and hiding there.
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
If you use bear spray, how do you expect to bear arms?
Hunkering down seems like a plan.
But, what happens when the thuggies realize they are not going to get into the house and loot? Wouldn't they just start burning the place down?
I guess I'll have to work on an escape plan.
Roger Ronas
04-28-2015, 14:22
Hunker down in my 1 bedroom apartment. Have enough ammo, food and water to last several months.
No transportation but have a daughter that can head this way if needed.
GilpinGuy
04-28-2015, 14:31
Up here, we'd pretty much watch the news and invite friends up to stay if they could make it. Sure, we'd be on full alert, but the odds of a Baltimore style shitstorm reaching here is nil.
As far as being away from home or in town when it hits, we have some plans but really need to get a SOLID plan together to get home. Luckily we both work in the hills and live about 20 mins from the house. We're focusing on forest fire preparations right now.
And bear spray....isn't it a violation of federal law to use it in any manner inconsistent with it's intended use and labeling? [Sarcasm2]
Zundfolge
04-28-2015, 14:56
This is part of the reason I live where I live.
Yep. Step 1 is to not live in a place with a large number of minorities (not that there's anything wrong with the vast majority of minorities but the honest truth is that the forces of social unrest originate in these communities).
Great-Kazoo
04-28-2015, 15:23
Hunkering down seems like a plan.
But, what happens when the thuggies realize they are not going to get into the house and loot? Wouldn't they just start burning the place down?
I guess I'll have to work on an escape plan.
Indiscriminate discharging of warning shots, as close to their heads as possible.
Great-Kazoo
04-28-2015, 15:25
Yep. Step 1 is to not live in a place with a large number of minorities (not that there's anything wrong with the vast majority of minorities but the honest truth is that the forces of social unrest originate in these communities).
In my neighborhood we're the minority. Of course the hispanics have been here sine the early 1800's, if not earlier.
Indiscriminate discharging of warning shots, as close to their heads as possible.
Lay down some suppression?
And bear spray....isn't it a violation of federal law to use it in any manner inconsistent with it's intended use and labeling? [Sarcasm2]
Nah they do it with prescription drugs all the time...
i used to be all about the bugging out, as i feel i would be much safer and able to survive fine out there. but i think its just impractical. hell, denver has enough problems with lack of easy routes out of town, it would be a mess if it was truly severe civil unrest. as such, bugging in it is. i have a tower with 360 degree views that i would probably perch in with a few rifles. basement has a hidden safe room with a vault door and escape hatch to the outside. i really wanted to build the house out of concrete but it just wasn't plausible cost wise. as cool as it would be to be mostly bullet proof and definitely fire proof, the likelihood of that made it impossible to convince me to spend another 60k.
I've tossed around the idea of buying an armored vehicle like a ferret or something so if need be i could travel fairly safely, but again its unlikely and having 20k to blow just isn't going to happen anytime soon. plus you are then limited on capacity. right now with my wife and i its fine but with kids too difficult. any armored vehicle much bigger, except maybe a brdm, has a cost just too high.
in general i think if its just unrest people are going to stay away from a house heavily armed and not afraid to use it. i live in town but on 1.5 acres with decent space on all sides and at the end of a dead end cul de sac. leo my neighbor is heavily armed and he's across the street. the chances some every day goons would really try to push their luck with that is awfully low.
now if red dawn occurs thats a different story. luckily thats even less likely.
It's pretty easy to close 285. But where we are. kickin back havin a cold one, grilling some elk steaks, or other.
tactical_2012
04-28-2015, 22:58
Pre-Cut plywood sheets for inside of the windows. Black out curtains. Throw some dresser drawers clothes and electronic on the lawn to make the place look like it has already been looted. Thaw out some rotten chicken livers (fish bait) from the freeze along with s quart or two of deer blood and scatter on front door, rear door, and porch. Maybe they will look at the place and move on
Avoidance. Defensive capabilities. Fire Mitigation. Bug-In. Re-evaluate mobility after the weak die off.
EXACTLY! When the weakest die off I'm collecting the rest as conscripts and my well armed neighbors and I are holding Cherry Creek from the Platte to the damn.
Holding it until the authorities are able to get things under control. Then they can POLITELY ask for it back...
If Denver gets to a "Bug Out" scenario the rest of the country, and particularly the east coast, is already ashes.
Hey, guys, check out Kazoo's avatar...HE'S AN ALIEN! Nothing he says applies to you. It's not like they are going to fire-bomb his place, the secondary explosion devastation would reach for miles.
HoneyBadger
04-29-2015, 19:34
Hunkering down seems like a plan.
But, what happens when the thuggies realize they are not going to get into the house and loot? Wouldn't they just start burning the place down?
I guess I'll have to work on an escape plan.
I plan to hunker down. If it gets to the point where houses are being burned down in my neighborhood, I will have handed out all available weapons to each of my neighbors. You don't see a single cop or national guardsman trying to repel the rioters by themselves... you see an organized team. This is what you must be if you want to be effective in such a situation. Even 3 people with rifles can be a very effective defense force for a pretty large area.
ETA: the MOST IMPORTANT PART of bugging in is making your safe house an undesirable target for others. Multiple layers of security, multiple levels of deterrent; DO NOT make yourself an easy target!
buffalobo
04-29-2015, 20:04
One of the primary reasons I live in the country.
No way I could deal with such @$!#/^&* going on in my neighborhood.
When it comes to the big cities in Colorado we will check our preps and stand by in case any family-minions-horde members-friends need help getting out. Once they all get here, gonna make popcorn and watch the glow on the horizon.
Great-Kazoo
04-29-2015, 20:06
rat traps, scattered about the property. Each one attached to small vials of tannerite.
Interesting story, a friend of mine in New Orleans during the aftermath of Katrina put together a neighborhood program to defend against intruders. They parked cars at the ends of the streets to prevent people driving up and discourage people from walking in. The took turns guarding the streets in small armed groups around the clock sitting in lawn chairs inside the perimeter. When the national guard was going virtually door to door confiscating weapons they just drove by saw what they were doing, waved and left them alone with arms.
I would hope that scenario could work here to avoid conflict with authorities in the event of a declared martial law scenario after a disaster or unrest.
Interesting story, a friend of mine in New Orleans during the aftermath of Katrina put together a neighborhood program to defend against intruders. They parked cars at the ends of the streets to prevent people driving up and discourage people from walking in. The took turns guarding the streets in small armed groups around the clock sitting in lawn chairs inside the perimeter. When the national guard was going virtually door to door confiscating weapons they just drove by saw what they were doing, waved and left them alone with arms.
I would hope that scenario could work here to avoid conflict with authorities in the event of a declared martial law scenario after a disaster or unrest.
I hope that something like that could work here where I am. However, I think that there are more non-firearm-owning-pacifist liberals in my neighborhood. A lot of good things can come out of a group of like-minded individuals making things happen.
Zundfolge
04-30-2015, 09:07
However, I think that there are more non-firearm-owning-pacifist liberals in my neighborhood.
Someone has to cook the meals, clean the latrines and do the hard labor (at gunpoint if necessary) [Muaha]
Thing is there's different levels of "Social Unrest".
If we're talking about some riots in "that part of town" well, I'm far enough away from "that part of town" that I'm not worried about it spilling over here ... and if it does then I live in a valley with many other armed people and we can block off our neighborhood much like what was described by another poster happening in New Orleans.
If we're talking about serious wide spread but likely short term and recoverable unrest (like a month or so), then it may be a little tougher but I still think we're pretty safe where we are (and again, my original point was the same as the 3 rules of Real Estate; location, location, location.)
Now if we're talking about full scale TEOTWAWKI, end of western civilization, brave new Mad Max like world ... well honestly I have no intention of surviving in that world. I still want to live in a world where America is America (yeah, that may have already come to an end) we have electricity and internet and indoor plumbing and a basically functioning society. I have no interest in going all Road Warrior or Book of Eli or Damnation Alley here. So if it comes to that I'm euthanizing the pets and then wreaking havoc of the nearest leftists (whom I blame for all this mess) until I get put down. This final possibility seems pretty unlikely to me (especially since such a thing would likely be started by a nuclear war ... which I don't expect anyone in The Springs to survive the first few minutes of).
Unfortunately, for the time being I am stuck in this location. I live overall in a nice part of town. But if this job ever goes south I may have to downsize. So I don't think a better residence location is currently in my near future.
I'm with you. If they don't or can't pick up a firearm and pull the trigger in defense of themselves or other folks, then they can pick up a shovel or do other tasks.
Aloha_Shooter
04-30-2015, 11:04
Put on a chimp suit ala "Planet of the Apes" and throw poo at the thugs hoodlums rioters protestors. In the meantime, I'll play some Woodie Guthrie, read some Maya Angelou, and tell everyone I'm Instagramming them with my old model cellphone.
HoneyBadger
04-30-2015, 11:06
Thing is there's different levels of "Social Unrest".
If we're talking about some riots in "that part of town" well, I'm far enough away from "that part of town" that I'm not worried about it spilling over here ... and if it does then I live in a valley with many other armed people and we can block off our neighborhood much like what was described by another poster happening in New Orleans.
If we're talking about serious wide spread but likely short term and recoverable unrest (like a month or so), then it may be a little tougher but I still think we're pretty safe where we are (and again, my original point was the same as the 3 rules of Real Estate; location, location, location.)
Nailed it with "Location, Location, Location"
Unless there is some weird uprising against the upper-middle class, gainfully-employed Briargate area, I think I'm pretty safe from this type of thing. I can't imagine a situation where rioters would be coming into my neighborhood (short of the end of western civilization), but if they did, there is only 1 road in, and the whole neighborhood has 1/2 mile of open field all around it - pretty easily defensible.
Now, I'm moving to CA in 3 weeks (against my will, trust me), but the house we bought there is in a similar neighborhood, surrounded by farm fields, and several miles from the "bad" part of the small town that it is in. It'll be tough to get a feel for my neighbors there because people are afraid to openly talk about guns, and I suspect people probably don't openly talk about preps or anything like that with their new neighbors either. Time will tell. I'll be sure to report back to this subforum in a month or two with some feedback. I suspect that there are a lot prepared individuals in the area we are moving to (right between LA and San Fran), but I don't know who my neighbors will be. I think the statist chokehold and progressive policies have forced the gun industry and shooters to be much more resourceful in CA than the rest of the country, and places like Ares Armor and their middle finger to the ATF are encouraging.
HB. Rular CA used to be quite gun friendly. City of Paso Robles in the general area of middle CA used to have ammo and cleaning supplies right in their grocery store. Which shocked me. This was many years ago so might be a little bit changed now.
HoneyBadger
04-30-2015, 13:32
HB. Rular CA used to be quite gun friendly. City of Paso Robles in the general area of middle CA used to have ammo and cleaning supplies right in their grocery store. Which shocked me. This was many years ago so might be a little bit changed now.
I'll definitely have to look into that.. I'm about 40 mins from there. Thanks for the heads up. I hope you're still correct about the gun-friendly attitude!
Great-Kazoo
04-30-2015, 16:28
I'll definitely have to look into that.. I'm about 40 mins from there. Thanks for the heads up. I hope you're still correct about the gun-friendly attitude!
Please we've been over this a few times. While you will be unable to bring your NFA and semi guns that CA has since banned. There are numerous firearms one is allowed to own, minus 11+ round magazines. Turner Outdoors has a bigger selection of semis / AR style rifles than the top 3 in NoCO and probably your area combined.
Regarding gun friendly people call the number i gave you, you'll be dialed in within the week. AND make a few new drinking friends. Most who share some if not all the philosophy you do.
HoneyBadger
05-01-2015, 10:46
Please we've been over this a few times. While you will be unable to bring your NFA and semi guns that CA has since banned. There are numerous firearms one is allowed to own, minus 11+ round magazines. Turner Outdoors has a bigger selection of semis / AR style rifles than the top 3 in NoCO and probably your area combined.
Regarding gun friendly people call the number i gave you, you'll be dialed in within the week. AND make a few new drinking friends. Most who share some if not all the philosophy you do.
Yep. You don't have to tell me again, Jim. NFA and other regulated items are in a safe place. [Flower]
Great-Kazoo
05-01-2015, 12:16
Yep. You don't have to tell me again, Jim. NFA and other regulated items are in a safe place. [Flower]
You own NFA Items. GASP! Watch list for sure.
Unless Whole Foods starts selling items that contain gluten or MSG, rioting in Boulder is not very likely.
Unless Whole Foods starts selling items that contain gluten or MSG, rioting in Boulder is not very likely.
What if someone starts a rumor that Granola is PEOPLE!!!
[/soylentgreen]
Someone has to cook the meals, clean the latrines and do the hard labor (at gunpoint if necessary) [Muaha]
Thing is there's different levels of "Social Unrest".
If we're talking about some riots in "that part of town" well, I'm far enough away from "that part of town" that I'm not worried about it spilling over here ... and if it does then I live in a valley with many other armed people and we can block off our neighborhood much like what was described by another poster happening in New Orleans.
If we're talking about serious wide spread but likely short term and recoverable unrest (like a month or so), then it may be a little tougher but I still think we're pretty safe where we are (and again, my original point was the same as the 3 rules of Real Estate; location, location, location.)
Now if we're talking about full scale TEOTWAWKI, end of western civilization, brave new Mad Max like world ... well honestly I have no intention of surviving in that world. I still want to live in a world where America is America (yeah, that may have already come to an end) we have electricity and internet and indoor plumbing and a basically functioning society. I have no interest in going all Road Warrior or Book of Eli or Damnation Alley here. So if it comes to that I'm euthanizing the pets and then wreaking havoc of the nearest leftists (whom I blame for all this mess) until I get put down. This final possibility seems pretty unlikely to me (especially since such a thing would likely be started by a nuclear war ... which I don't expect anyone in The Springs to survive the first few minutes of).
Mind if I join you in your quest to rid the human race of these parasites?
No one will be ridding anyone of any "parasites."
You need to lighten up Francis, before your roommate "sees something and says something."
clodhopper
06-19-2015, 08:21
No one will be ridding anyone of any "parasites."
You need to lighten up Francis, before your roommate "sees something and says something."
snitch.
[LOL]
The one issue I keep running into is that I want to keep our home secure from the bad guys, but I also don't want it to be too difficult for us to vacate/firemen to respond. Does that make sense? We've already had one fire. If we have bars on the windows, for instance, how long will it take to escape? Will a special film on the glass make it that much harder to break from the inside?
We have plenty of improvements that could be made for the security of our home, but it's a much finer line than I realized between 'security' and 'trap'. Am I overthinking this?
Zundfolge
06-20-2015, 11:57
Mind if I join you in your quest to rid the human race of these parasites?
I think you'd have a hard time getting here from LV should things take such a turn ... that said my brother lives in Vegas so you can join him if you like :D
We have plenty of improvements that could be made for the security of our home, but it's a much finer line than I realized between 'security' and 'trap'. Am I overthinking this?
I'm thinking some sort of quickly deploy-able extra security measures would be a good idea. Something you keep stored in the basement or garage only to be deployed if the S hits the F. Something along the lines of a complete set of bars for the windows that you could install within a couple hours.
Another option might be steel shutters like folk in hurricane country use.
That way in times of peace you're not making it harder to escape a burning house nor interfere with the FD doing their job.
HoneyBadger
06-20-2015, 12:37
I think you'd have a hard time getting here from LV should things take such a turn ... that said my brother lives in Vegas so you can join him if you like :D
I'm thinking some sort of quickly deploy-able extra security measures would be a good idea. Something you keep stored in the basement or garage only to be deployed if the S hits the F. Something along the lines of a complete set of bars for the windows that you could install within a couple hours.
Another option might be steel shutters like folk in hurricane country use.
That way in times of peace you're not making it harder to escape a burning house nor interfere with the FD doing their job.
We all need some "I Am Legend" style metal shutters that deploy at the push of a button. :D
Great-Kazoo
06-20-2015, 15:29
The one issue I keep running into is that I want to keep our home secure from the bad guys, but I also don't want it to be too difficult for us to vacate/firemen to respond. Does that make sense? We've already had one fire. If we have bars on the windows, for instance, how long will it take to escape? Will a special film on the glass make it that much harder to break from the inside?
We have plenty of improvements that could be made for the security of our home, but it's a much finer line than I realized between 'security' and 'trap'. Am I overthinking this?
Interior steel bars. They drop down on "pintles" The bars can have male or female ends. Once they're on, a cross pin (outside arms reach) secures them.
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You have them made to look like flower pot hangers. Mounted to one side or centered between ground floor windows.
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