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sellersm
05-06-2015, 21:32
If you haven't heard yet, this bird flu is wiping out lots of birds in short time... Might be time to stock up a bit on some more protein!
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/bird-flu-has-already-killed-more-than-20-million-turkeys-and-chickens-in-the-united-states
Great-Kazoo
05-07-2015, 00:01
Been buying in bulk for some time. Have 2 local sources for eggs and possibly roasters.
sellersm
05-07-2015, 09:06
Been buying in bulk for some time. Have 2 local sources for eggs and possibly roasters.
Yeah, I knew you were stocking up! This was for those who were 'waiting'... We have some local sources as well, thank the Lord!
I have a friend who thinks this "bird flu" is related to chem trails... Wouldn't surprise me!
Great-Kazoo
05-07-2015, 10:21
Yeah, I knew you were stocking up! This was for those who were 'waiting'... We have some local sources as well, thank the Lord!
I have a friend who thinks this "bird flu" is related to chem trails... Wouldn't surprise me!
Only if those chem trails happen to be carrying H5N1. IMO having a massive livestock factory. In this case birds. Is a recipe for disaster. I equate it to a child care or public school for livestock. Student sneezes and 1/2 the school is out sick before end of week.
cluck, cluck, dead.
Roger Ronas
05-07-2015, 13:30
A good friend has been up in Minnesota for about 10 days now trucking in water to the poultry houses to murder the birds. They are spraying the coops full of foam to suffocate the birds. Chickens and turkeys both. It is a FEMA project and so far over 5 mil birds have been destroyed. FEMA claims we could lose more than 50% of bird population. It is currently in 16 states including Colorado. Friend may be traveling to Iowa next, then Wy and Co. fEMA thinks that it is being spread by migratory birds BUT it is moving from south to north, the migratory birds are moving north to south. Also some wide birds have been tested positive for the bird flu also.
friend says that drivers are not allowed out of trucks, there are workers there that are suited up in Tyvek with booties and all, that are handling all the work. He was told that this will be a 6 month job .
Roger
A good friend has been up in Minnesota for about 10 days now trucking in water to the poultry houses to murder the birds. They are spraying the coops full of foam to suffocate the birds. Chickens and turkeys both. It is a FEMA project and so far over 5 mil birds have been destroyed. FEMA claims we could lose more than 50% of bird population. It is currently in 16 states including Colorado. Friend may be traveling to Iowa next, then Wy and Co. fEMA thinks that it is being spread by migratory birds BUT it is moving from south to north, the migratory birds are moving north to south. Also some wide birds have been tested positive for the bird flu also.
friend says that drivers are not allowed out of trucks, there are workers there that are suited up in Tyvek with booties and all, that are handling all the work. He was told that this will be a 6 month job .
Roger
Is he sure there are just birds in those barns? [tinhat][tinhat][tinhat]
Roger Ronas
05-07-2015, 14:16
Is he sure there are just birds in those barns? [tinhat][tinhat][tinhat]
Only what he believes because he is not allowed out of the truck. Can't unroll windows or open doors either. Could be anything in them coops but he states he does not here any screaming or anything.
Only what he believes because he is not allowed out of the truck. Can't unroll windows or open doors either. Could be anything in them coops but he states he does not here any screaming or anything.
Well, it is FEMA, after all.
Great-Kazoo
05-07-2015, 14:51
Only what he believes because he is not allowed out of the truck. Can't unroll windows or open doors either. Could be anything in them coops but he states he does not here any screaming or anything.
Even that is not enough, especially when the airborne particulates in the area, from tyvek suits, dust etc is able to be transmitted via the air flow from outside to vehicles cabin / interior.
One would "Think" CDC would have enacted more stringent guidelines to prevent transmission of an airborne pathogen, from point A-B/Z
sellersm
05-07-2015, 14:56
"Think" and "CDC" used together? [hahhah-no]
A good friend has been up in Minnesota for about 10 days now trucking in water to the poultry houses to murder the birds. They are spraying the coops full of foam to suffocate the birds. Chickens and turkeys both. It is a FEMA project and so far over 5 mil birds have been destroyed. FEMA claims we could lose more than 50% of bird population. It is currently in 16 states including Colorado. Friend may be traveling to Iowa next, then Wy and Co. fEMA thinks that it is being spread by migratory birds BUT it is moving from south to north, the migratory birds are moving north to south. Also some wide birds have been tested positive for the bird flu also.
friend says that drivers are not allowed out of trucks, there are workers there that are suited up in Tyvek with booties and all, that are handling all the work. He was told that this will be a 6 month job .
Roger
The migration is from south to north this time of year.
thedave1164
05-07-2015, 16:35
I work at the USDA and we have been fully briefed on the protocols for access to the poultry farms, what was described for the truck driver is right in line with our brief.
The USDA is very concerned with this outbreak and has prioritized all resources for response.
Firehaus
05-07-2015, 16:44
Is the usda requiring hermetically sealed truck cabs then? And driving through bleach water as they leave the property?
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Roger Ronas
05-07-2015, 17:35
Yea, I got that all backwards. Migration is south to north, Flu is north to south.
Sorry about that.
The migration is from south to north this time of year.
Roger Ronas
05-07-2015, 17:37
Trucks are decontaminated before leaving site.
Great-Kazoo
05-07-2015, 19:40
I work at the USDA and we have been fully briefed on the protocols for access to the poultry farms, what was described for the truck driver is right in line with our brief.
The USDA is very concerned with this outbreak and has prioritized all resources for response.
You have a visit from Kristy P yet? She's over at CSU MIP One of the tops in the AI field.
http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/Pages/avian-influenza.aspx
If you haven't heard yet, this bird flu is wiping out lots of birds in short time... Might be time to stock up a bit on some more protein!
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/bird-flu-has-already-killed-more-than-20-million-turkeys-and-chickens-in-the-united-states
https://www.zayconfresh.com/products/chicken/chicken-breasts-fresh-boneless-skinless
None of Zaycon's farms have been affected, and you can't beat the price. Order now and stock up, in case this bout of bird flu limits options.
Great-Kazoo
05-07-2015, 23:22
https://www.zayconfresh.com/products/chicken/chicken-breasts-fresh-boneless-skinless
None of Zaycon's farms have been affected, and you can't beat the price. Order now and stock up, in case this bout of bird flu limits options.
Our freezer is full , for now or we'd jump on it.
thedave1164
05-08-2015, 05:12
You have a visit from Kristy P yet? She's over at CSU MIP One of the tops in the AI field.
http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/Pages/avian-influenza.aspx
Nope, I don't mix with the little people ;)
Great-Kazoo
05-08-2015, 09:27
Nope, I don't mix with the little people ;)
Oh that's right i forgot. You're the traffic jam guy. [LOL]
https://www.zayconfresh.com/products/chicken/chicken-breasts-fresh-boneless-skinless
None of Zaycon's farms have been affected, and you can't beat the price. Order now and stock up, in case this bout of bird flu limits options.
I bought a case for a pickup in aurora a few blocks from where I work. Excellent price!
I have a friend who is a turkey vet in management at a big vendor. He says the turkeys are at way more risk than the chickens. Sprouts sells breasts for 1.99 lb though.
I usually hit the turkey sales in November. Roast them all up, debone them, and can them. This year I got about 4 - 15 lb turkeys canned up.
BushMasterBoy
05-14-2015, 12:45
I buried a lot of Eurasian Collared doves this winter/spring. They just seemed to fall out of our trees. Sprayed bleach around the trees, I read bird feces are the vector. This and having the flu twice in one season...
I buried a lot of Eurasian Collared doves this winter/spring...
Good. They are an invasive species.
Great-Kazoo
05-14-2015, 14:22
Well for the "shortage of birds & eggs. I've seen more EGGS 2 for $5. or safeways latest $0.99 per dozen. Some places are running BOGO.
We did order a case of cluckers from zaycon.
StagLefty
05-14-2015, 14:27
Safeway is having a 50% off sale at the ones at 120th & Colorado Blvd. and the one at 128th and Zuni-both closing down next week.
Roger Ronas
05-14-2015, 18:36
Latest news from trucker friend. USDA reports that overseas buyers of birds don't want any of our birds so they anticipate an overage and prices will drop.
He's done in Minnesota and back in North Dakota. May be going to Iowa next for bird murdering. next week.
Roger
Great-Kazoo
05-14-2015, 19:16
Good. They are an invasive species.
They're Chinese Ring Necks. Eurasian sounds to PC, call em what they are.
They're Chinese Ring Necks. Eurasian sounds to PC, call em what they are.
They're not pheasant, and they are effectively choking out the mourning dove population.
DOW, or whatever their PC title is bow, removed all limits on collared doves.
They are cleared for eradication, with prejudice.
They're everywhere around my folks place in eastern Colorado.
Great-Kazoo
05-14-2015, 20:16
They're not pheasant, and they are effectively choking out the mourning dove population.
DOW, or whatever their PC title is bow, removed all limits on collared doves.
They are cleared for eradication, with prejudice.
They're everywhere around my folks place in eastern Colorado.
They're Ring Neck Doves, Chinese Ring neck Doves or as around here, called rats with feathers
Ringneck Dove = Streptopelia capicola
Eurasian Collared Dove =Streptopelia decaocto
CPW Small Game Info (http://cpw.state.co.us/thingstodo/Pages/SmallGameDatesFees.aspx) Area, Season, Limits
CPW Small Game Brochure PDF (http://case.epaperflip.com/coloradosmallgame/3DE90033C9EB85A603B788E5DD972299/2014%20Big%20Game%20VideoSpreadFINAL.pdf) Refence pages 4 -6
DOVES: EURASIAN COLLARED
SEASON: Year-round
AREA: Statewide
DAILY BAG, POSSESSION LIMITS: Unlimited
NEW! NOTE: Eurasians must be fully feathered
while in the field and during transport, unless
counted as part of the mourning and/or whitewinged
dove bag limits. See page 6.
NEW! NOTE: A license is not required, these are
considered an invasive species. See page 6.
NEW! Hunting invasive species
As of Sept. 1, 2014, Eurasian collared-doves, European starlings and
house (English) sparrows will be considered invasive species in Colorado.
Because of this designation, these species may be hunted year-round. No
license or Habitat Stamp is required to hunt invasive species, however
hunters must have and carry with them a hunter education card.
Hunters may harvest any number of each of these species and by any
method of take approved for big- or small-game hunting. These species may be taken at night with the use of artificial light and night vision
equipment.
Commercial hunting of invasive species is prohibited, as is receiving or
attempting to receive compensation by hunting these species.
Eurasian collared-doves must remain fully feathered while in the field
or during transport, except when counted as part of the mourning or
white-winged dove bag and possession limit during the dove season that
runs from Sept. 1-Nov. 9.
[Coffee]
Still rats with wings, nonetheless.
[mop]
buffalobo
05-15-2015, 07:49
They're not pheasant, and they are effectively choking out the mourning dove population.
DOW, or whatever their PC title is bow, removed all limits on collared doves.
They are cleared for eradication, with prejudice.
They're everywhere around my folks place in eastern Colorado.
Here too.
Ringneck Dove = Streptopelia capicola
Eurasian Collared Dove =Streptopelia decaocto
CPW Small Game Info (http://cpw.state.co.us/thingstodo/Pages/SmallGameDatesFees.aspx) Area, Season, Limits
CPW Small Game Brochure PDF (http://case.epaperflip.com/coloradosmallgame/3DE90033C9EB85A603B788E5DD972299/2014%20Big%20Game%20VideoSpreadFINAL.pdf) Refence pages 4 -6
[Coffee]
Still rats with wings, nonetheless.
[mop]
Looks like minion number one will be in the first available Hunters Ed class. Year round practice is good for them, especially when on our property.
Now gotta start search for youth sized shotguns.
Great-Kazoo
05-15-2015, 07:54
Here too.
Looks like minion number one will be in the first available Hunters Ed class. Year round practice is good for them, especially when on our property.
Now gotta start search for youth sized shotguns.
Mossberg 500 Ute in 20ga. If you can get a mossberg cheap i have a youth stock if you don't mind camo.
Solar Panels installed on my roof. Next day they took up residence. One call to solar city, and they are having a feathered rat abatement company come out and put cages around the sides of the panels to keep them from nesting up there. Free.
buffalobo
05-15-2015, 08:35
Mossberg 500 Ute in 20ga. If you can get a mossberg cheap i have a youth stock if you don't mind camo.
Cool, will keep an eye out.
Mr Postman should have package for you today/tomorrow.
Great-Kazoo
05-15-2015, 17:12
Cool, will keep an eye out.
Mr Postman should have package for you today/tomorrow.
Hope this isn't one of those 911 swat pranks, again.
buffalobo
05-15-2015, 17:19
Mail box is safe but open the package upside down.
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