Any feedback on the P220 10mm?

[ZERO THEORY]

Saw it on Sportsman's Network on G&A TV or some such program. Haven't gotten my hands on one, but I'm curious if it offers anything substantial over the Glock 20 at half the price (and 50% more capacity).

[Marine24]

If you prefer the mechanicals on a full size Sig, prefer DA/SA pistols to DAO or just are unable to connect with the Glock (like me), I can see it be appealing. I would probably jump towards the Delta Elite instead, but I have a 1911 preference.

[roberth]

The reviews I've read positive news outweighs negative news by a wide margin.

[SAnd]

I saw this link on another forum. I'm posting it here in case it might help you.

http://gunblast.com/SIG-P220-10mm.htm

Have Fun

[ZERO THEORY]

I saw this link on another forum. I'm posting it here in case it might help you.

http://gunblast.com/SIG-P220-10mm.htm

Have Fun

Thanks for the link.

[JohnnyEgo]

I want one. Cabelas claims they are going to carry it as a stock item, but I haven't seen one show up yet. I've got a stack of Cabelas gift cards that will cover the cost if/when one comes in.

[JohnnyEgo]

So in what is no doubt a reflection on my impulse control, it turns out I can provide feedback on the 10mm Sig 220 after all.


Sig 220 Elite in 10mm:
http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/berettas/Sigs/220-10mm01.JPG
I think this is a Lipseys exclusive, although I gather Sig is planning to offer this and other models to multiple distributors in the near future.

It is a DA/SA with SRT trigger and Sig tritium night sights.
http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/berettas/Sigs/220-10mm08.JPG

I haven't owned a DA/SA Sig in a long time, and I don't know that I've ever owned one with the SRT trigger. So I don't have much to experience to compare it to a normal Sig trigger, but it felt about the same as my HK Match and Expert.
http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/berettas/Sigs/220-10mm05.JPG


I wasn't a fan of the grips in photographs, and I thought they would be the first thing to go, replaced with conventional black rubber or perhaps wood. However, they look a lot better in person, and they are surprisingly comfortable and grippy without being too aggressive.
http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/berettas/Sigs/220-10mm06.JPG
Compared to my 220 Supermatch, the grips feel quite a bit thinner, and you can really get your hands around them. The 10mm 220 also feels substantially heavier than my Supermatch. I don't know if it truly is, because I haven't weighed it, but it feels like a chunk of steel. For 10mm, this is a very good thing. Almost no muzzle flip at all, and very quick to return to target.

I fired off 32 rounds at a reasonably decent pace at about 15 yards, and this is how I did:
http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/berettas/Sigs/220-10mm02.JPG
I know many of you are super-ninjas who can drive all your rounds through one hole. I am not. This is good shooting for me, particularly so with a brand new gun still in it's assembly lube. I was very pleased with the performance of the gun.

So on it's own, the 220 10mm is attractive and very comfortable to shoot. It will fit into my Super Match holster without any problems. It's also about the same size and thickness of a Government sized 1911, so I don't see concealed carry as being much of an issue.
It fills most of the needs I'd want in a 10mm firearm on it's own merits. But since I like 10mm and have some things to compare it against in the caliber:
http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/berettas/Sigs/220-10mm03.JPG
It's got a thinner grip profile and more weight than my Kimber and Delta in 10mm. Both plusses in my book. However, I like the 1911 single action trigger better. Since I alternate between 1911s and Glocks for carry, I don't have much concern between cocked and locked or DA carry. However, if you do, that might be an issue. What may realy make me reach for the 1911s over the Sig is that the 1911 magazines hold 9 rounds versus the Sig's 8. If you are going to go single stack, that extra round makes a difference to me. Similarly, I have a multitude of choices for the 1911s. I currently run Wilsons and Tripps, and have 9 and 10 round magazines. The Sig being new, there is just the Sig magazine and it's eight rounds at this time. Also, while this is a problem that will no doubt go away over time, the magazine springs of the Sig are some of the stiffest I've ever encountered.

The Glock is such a different beast that it is hard to compare the two. Striker versus DA/SA. Wide body & high capacity magazines that are more than double the Sig's. Of the two, the Sig is much more comfortable for me to hold and shoot. However, in the wild, I'd rather have the capacity. Similarly, I tend to think of the Glock as relatively maintenance free. Not likely to rust over the short term, and the finish is strong enough to take the scratches and dings of an active outdoor lifestyle. It is too soon to tell, but historically, I have had less luck with Sig finishes. The finish on my X5 started chipping and flaking from day one, and shows a lot of holster wear. Being a steel framed gun, I'd be worried about moisture and rust a lot more than with the Glock.

So the Sig isn't going to be the first gun I choose for carry in a social setting, nor is it going to be what I would want to take with me in the back country. However, as a range gun, it is truly a joy to shoot, and it would fit the carry bill if I needed it to. All things considered, it is a welcome addition to my Sig family.
http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/berettas/Sigs/220-10mm07.JPG

Thanks for your time!

JohnnyEgo

[Irving]

Better than any of my groups at 15 yards. Well done.

[roberth]

Excellent review JohnnyEgo.

I finally got to see one and shoot it. I liked it...alot, a great shooter.

[Graves]

I'm glad to see that they opted not to go with an alloy frame, I've seen and heard about a few cases of the rails being ripped clean off the frames, and an uncastrated 10mm load isn't too forgiving.

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't own a 10 and never gave the round much thought, based on "reports" from shooters. With that out of the way, having shot JE's Kimbers & the Sig in question, i can say IF the cash flow had mysteriously appeared i would not hesitate to pick one up. Both the Sig & Kimber (keep in mind i'm not a S/A) fan were not only a pleasure to shoot. Both were accurate enough to keep a fairly consistent hit ratio on various sized steel plates @ 25 yds. The sig felt comfortable to handle & shoot. Sights were easy to pick up and recoil was very tame .

[Graves]

Yeah, the SRT Sigs are hard to beat for box stock pistols as far as feel and control go IMO.

[JohnnyEgo]

If it has the endorsement of the Great Kazoo, you know it has to be good.

I've got about 100 rounds into it so far, and have very few complaints. The (Nitron?) black finish is already showing the same signs of accelerated holster wear that my Super Match and X5 do. Eventually, I'll probably have to get it refinished. Also, the magazines still only hold 8 rounds (as designed) no matter how much I hope they will suddenly hold more.

Other than those issues, I think the gun is truly a joy to shoot, and I am very happy with my purchase.