View Full Version : Glock 43 initial impressions
Picked up a Glock 43 today. Thought I would share my initial impressions.
First, even though it is a pretty small handgun, it "feels" like a Glock. Points like a Glock, trigger feels like every other Glock, controls feel the same, etc.
Also, after handling it for a bit when I picked up the 19 it felt like a huge pig. The 19 that always seemed so light weight and compact suddenly felt bulky and heavy.
I don't have a scale suitable for weighing them but did want to take a few measurements. A comparison to the 26 is what's really called for but I don't own one. The overall length and height are nearly identical between the 43 and the 26 so I thought I'd focus on the difference in width. I am assuming the 26 and 19 are probably the same width so comparing the 19 to the 43 should get me in the ballpark.
So, the slide on the 19 measured 1.005".
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/437c385243e34e12071d2505ef7cbffb.jpg
The slide on the 43 measured .860" wide.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/5bb916304f9466d79b41e7db70ce57e4.jpg
That's only a difference of .145" if I did the math right. In other words, just a bit over an eighth of an inch. Doesn't really seem like much but the 43 definitely looks thinner in that area.
Next, I was curious about the thickness of the grip. My numbers probably aren't exact since both pistols have Talon grips installed but close enough.
The grip on the 19 was 1.208" wide. Nearly an inch and a quarter.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/67466856233261cb618de7af585ff0d5.jpg
The 43 came in at .957". Just under an inch.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/90598131cec16018392da5e60ea165d8.jpg
That's about a .251" difference. Pretty much a quarter inch.
Here it is fresh out of the box.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/0511b81ecf598a7eb9053b221002324e.jpg
And here it is with the Talon grips.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/16fb55618a538f74db13774abee1d6bc.jpg
I need to put a good set of sights on it and find a good holster or two or three for it but don't have plans to do anything else to it.
My one minor complaint is the trigger itself. It uses the one with the ridges on the face. I prefer the smooth trigger face. I might have to do a little sanding and polishing to change that.
I'm the kind of guy that wouldn't feel uncomfortable carrying a five shot revolver in 38 Special so having a couple of extra rounds in a thinner platform and the ability to reload quickly should suit me just fine.
I'll get a range report up after I get a chance to shoot it.
And, for a size reference, here it is next to my cell phone.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/e4251de93715bc6c9e4d9cd2892f3a75.jpg
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hurley842002
05-08-2015, 16:01
No wonder it looks so small, you have one of those phones the size of a tablet.....lol jk, actually looks like my phone (S5?)
Thanks for the initial impression. Personally, without shooting one, I think Glock did a pretty good job on their first single stack 9mm. If I hadn't literally just bought a Shield roughly a month ago, I'd probably have a 43 right now. Maybe we can do a joint review between the Shield and 43, side by side at the range sometime.
No wonder it looks so small, you have one of those phones the size of a tablet.....lol jk, actually looks like my phone (S5?)
Thanks for the initial impression. Personally, without shooting one, I think Glock did a pretty good job on their first single stack 9mm. If I hadn't literally just bought a Shield roughly a month ago, I'd probably have a 43 right now. Maybe we can do a joint review between the Shield and 43, side by side at the range sometime.
Yes, that is an S5. So it is kind of a big phone anyways. Lol.
I'd love to shoot the 43 and the Shield side by side. I really wanted to like the Shield (since it's a good deal cheaper than the Glock) but it just didn't "feel right" when I handled it.
I'm hoping to maybe hit one of the indoor ranges this weekend if I can squeeze it in.
drift_g35
05-08-2015, 16:28
Did you throw some new sights on it or is glock shipping new sights now?
Get these +2 base plates.
http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=44_49_81&products_id=293&zenid=ea509392dd4ce021a9cc31d1da6d9347
Did you throw some new sights on it or is glock shipping new sights now?
Crappy stock sights. You might have been looking at the sights on the G19. I need to order a set for the 43.
Get these +2 base plates.
http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=44_49_81&products_id=293&zenid=ea509392dd4ce021a9cc31d1da6d9347
Thanks for the link. I'm actually thinking about scrapping the finger extension thing on the one mag it came with in favor of another flat base plate. This was bought to be a dedicated carry piece and I want to keep it as compact and light weight as possible. Good to know there are options out there though.
hurley842002
05-08-2015, 16:37
Did you throw some new sights on it or is glock shipping new sights now?
I'm guessing the 3 dot sights are from the 19..
They also have a +1 extension that's a very close to the flat base plate.
http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=44_49_81&products_id=288
They also have a +1 extension that's a very close to the flat base plate.
http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=44_49_81&products_id=288
Thanks. That might be worth looking into when they come back in stock.
^^^ I'm about to just order some now and get them whenever.
Also, I haven't torn it down yet but I like what they did with the striker safety plunger thingy. I'll see if I can find a picture online. If not, I'll take one when I tear it down.
Not a Glock guy, but for those in the know does Glock classify this as a Gen3, Gen4 or neither. Seems to have parts of both generations.
Not a Glock guy, but for those in the know does Glock classify this as a Gen3, Gen4 or neither. Seems to have parts of both generations.
I'm not a Glock guy either but I trust them to work and I shoot them better than just about any other handgun. (Sorry, just justifying my purchase to myself.)
Anyhow, I would guess they aren't a "gen" anything. Maybe a first gen single stack? From what I can tell, it has more in common with the gen 4 models. Dual recoil spring, similar frame texture, large, reversible magazine release. I think the only thing they are missing is the interchangeable back straps. Which would seem a bit silly on such a small gun. The firing pin block (or striker safety plunger or whatever Glock calls it) is a new design I haven't seen on a Glock. I believe it was first used on the 42. It's an anti-rotational design. Kind of has a "V" shape to it where the trigger bar makes contact. Doesn't seem to have the "bump" as the trigger bar comes into contact with it. I bet we'll start seeing this design on all of the models soon.
Makes sense. I've had several people aske me to classify it as one or the other and tend to refer to it as a hybrid. But I like your description better....it isn't a "Gen" anything.
Makes sense. I've had several people aske me to classify it as one or the other and tend to refer to it as a hybrid. But I like your description better....it isn't a "Gen" anything.
Think of it as the original Glock 17 when it first hit the market. It wasn't a gen anything. Then when they made improvements/modifications it became the gen 2. When they make noticeable improvements to the 43 it will be a gen 2.
But who really knows.
Oh, ordered my first holster for it a few minutes ago. [Awesom]
hurley842002
05-08-2015, 21:52
Oh, ordered my first holster for it a few minutes ago. [Awesom]
What did you order?
What did you order?
I ordered a Blade-tech. I have several OWB ones for other handguns and really like them. Figured I had to order something so I'm hoping the IWB one I ordered will be decent too.
I ordered this one, but for the 43.
http://shop.blade-tech.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_13_131&products_id=120417
I'll probably end up getting a DeSantis "Inside heat" to try out as well. I have one for another handgun that I like but it seems like the leather might add more bulk than the plastic/Kydex stuff which is why I ordered the Blade-tech for now.
hurley842002
05-08-2015, 22:17
I ordered a Blade-tech. I have several OWB ones for other handguns and really like them. Figured I had to order something so I'm hoping the IWB one I ordered will be decent too.
I ordered this one, but for the 43.
http://shop.blade-tech.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_13_131&products_id=120417
Great choice, I have the same one for my shield, but the Ambi model. I like how the clip is offset. Good option if you are looking for thin.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/eada2665c8462740e789260aae08c90b.jpg
I saw that one but didn't figure I needed the ambidextrous feature. I did like the fact that you can adjust the height of the belt attachment some to control how high or low the gun sits inside the waistband.
Like I said, I needed to order something so I went with a brand I am familiar with and we'll see what happens.
I was looking at the incog eclipse for the 43, but for the price the blade tech looks like it will work just as well. Let us know how she shoots, if you lived closer I would have to take you up on that offer and see how she shoots.
hurley842002
05-08-2015, 23:04
I was looking at the incog eclipse for the 43, but for the price the blade tech looks like it will work just as well. Let us know how she shoots, if you lived closer I would have to take you up on that offer and see how she shoots.
The G code I had for my G19 was pretty thick kydex if I remember right. To me, if I'm going to give up capacity for a single stack thin pistol, I'm going to also have the thinnest holster possible.
Here are some shots of the 43 all torn down. Most of the parts are smaller versions of the standard Glock stuff but there are a few little pieces that are a bit different so I will point them out.
Here is a shot of the whole thing.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/eaa3fdaa77a998a852f5a8a4a9cb5196.jpg
Here is a shot of the slide assembly.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/2396d1a747b6529084def7abc6cc3571.jpg
And here is a shot of the lower parts.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/8df1d856b2b0a7e0fba40c765baf1805.jpg
Now the pieces that are a bit different.
The trigger return spring setup in the ejector block is a different design.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/6800395edbad8c99ada12b6ee1a65ea1.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/0d014adfd93d83a108c75b36ef5b3ce5.jpg
The take down lever looks the same but uses a coil spring instead of the flat wire.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/5bbefa74b87a2b8d72e73791487b1bf6.jpg
The spring for the slide lock is also a coil spring.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/e9032db3d03dcfcdd480c949286f584a.jpg
And the striker safety plunger is a different design.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/011253a44a74de42ba8f62fb8c31a0ad.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/f9f9d69d9998356f541b0c51bf1169c0.jpg
That's awesome that you took it all apart and posted pic! Man I can't wait to get one.
That's awesome that you took it all apart and posted pic! Man I can't wait to get one.
It was getting disassembled anyways. Just something I do with every firearm I acquire, whether new or used. It gives me a chance to give it a good inspection, clean out any gunk from the manufacturing process, lube everything the way I want, and address anything I might see as a potential issue.
Figured since it is a new model I might as well take some pictures while I had it apart in case anyone was curious about it.
Awesome write up and review Ray, looking forward to the range report.
I was up early so decided to see about making myself a holster. Drug out the Kydex stuff and started a little appendix carry holster. Just did the molding and the basic cut out for now. Hopefully I'll have some time later today to refine and finish it and make the belt clip.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/10/b9e5b61e1335d5c5c77eef7c73cdd5f0.jpg
hurley842002
05-10-2015, 08:38
I was up early so decided to see about making myself a holster. Drug out the Kydex stuff and started a little appendix carry holster. Just did the molding and the basic cut out for now. Hopefully I'll have some time later today to refine and finish it and make the belt clip.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/10/b9e5b61e1335d5c5c77eef7c73cdd5f0.jpg
Nice! Looking forward to the finished product. I need pick up some kydex so I can try my hand at an OWB for the Shield.
Well, I didn't get around to doing the belt clip yet but the holster part is done.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/10/787bf33ca907ddb3c0d2481947fbc071.jpg
hurley842002
05-10-2015, 17:47
Well, I didn't get around to doing the belt clip yet but the holster part is done.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/10/787bf33ca907ddb3c0d2481947fbc071.jpg
Good work!
Oh, and one other update and bit of info. The 43 comes with the serrated trigger. I prefer a smooth trigger. While the trigger bar in the 43 is different than it's bigger cousins, the actual trigger itself is the same. So, the short version is I swapped the trigger out for a smooth one today.
Also, pretty much decided I am going to order a set of the Trijicon HD sights for it soon.
hurley842002
05-10-2015, 19:30
Oh, and one other update and bit of info. The 43 comes with the serrated trigger. I prefer a smooth trigger. While the trigger bar in the 43 is different than it's bigger cousins, the actual trigger itself is the same. So, the short version is I swapped the trigger out for a smooth one today.
Also, pretty much decided I am going to order a set of the Trijicon HD sights for it soon.
Nice, I'm a smooth trigger fan as well. The Trijicon HD'S are very similar to the Ameriglo pro I dot sights I have on the Shield, you can't go wrong with that type of sight.
So, took the 43 out to the range today and ran a whopping fifty rounds through it due to time constraints. Here are my impressions if anyone is interested.
While handling the 43 at the house gives me the impression that it "feels" like most other Glocks, shooting it is a different experience.
First, I will mention that even though I didn't put as many rounds through it as I wanted to today, it was perfectly reliable and accuracy seemed good for a pistol of its size.
Like many people, if I don't pay attention to what I'm doing when shooting a Glock, my shots tend to go a bit to the left. This was even more pronounce with the 43. Most likely a lack of concentration on my part combined with a stiff factory trigger pull and the fact that I had never actually fired this particular model.
My normal grip is high and thumbs forward and I found that I would constantly ride the slide stop lever so it would never lock the slide back on the last shot. I don't have this issue with the full size Glocks.
I'd like to take it out again when I have time to really put some rounds through it.
At this point, I'm kind of thinking I might be better served with a 26 as I am really bothered by guns that allow my normal grip to interfere with the slide locking back on the last round. I know I can change my grip a bit to alleviate this but twenty plus years of shooting with the same style grip makes it really difficult for me to learn something new.
As far as actually firing the 43, it is very controllable, doesn't shift around in the hand, and comes back on target easily.
I'm sure I mentioned it before, but any of you are welcome to try it out if you'd like.
My Blade-Tech holster just arrived. Not quite as nice as their more expensive models but should work until I find something nicer or get mine finished.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/15/6d712cfc1c3b6c9a654f0d6fe5afc82c.jpg
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That sucks, I'll take it if you decide to sell, lol!
That sucks, I'll take it if you decide to sell, lol!
Man, you guys are like vultures. Lol.
I'm not disappointed with it. I just need to practice a bit more. Me riding the slide stop lever is a bit of an annoyance but I have a crazy idea that might eliminate that little issue.
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 13:14
Well I'm waiting for CBI on a new G43, yup I caved. Probably shoot it and the Shield side by side this afternoon. I'll report back with my initial impression.
Well I'm waiting for CBI on a new G43, yup I caved. Probably shoot it and the Shield side by side this afternoon. I'll report back with my initial impression.
Sheesh. I offered to let you shoot mine first.
Good thing is I had several people who expressed some interest in mine if I decided to sell it. So that might be an option for you if it comes to that.
[Beer]
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 13:28
Sheesh. I offered to let you shoot mine first.
Good thing is I had several people who expressed some interest in mine if I decided to sell it. So that might be an option for you if it comes to that.
[Beer]
I know I know lol.
Yeah that was exactly my thought. Buy one while they are hot, if I don't like it, shouldn't be hard to offload.
Did you end up ordering night sights for yours?
I better come help you shoot it (and try the Shield), where are you going to be?
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 13:36
I better come help you shoot it (and try the Shield), where are you going to be?
Shoot indoors in Broomfield, come on over.
I've got some work to finish. About what time do you think you'll be there?
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 13:39
I've got some work to finish. About what time do you think you'll be there?
Have to pick up the boys at 4, so here pretty soon. Running to Cabela's for some ammo, then heading over.
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 13:39
Sorry cluttering your thread Ray.
I'll see if I can make it, but don't wait up if I can't.
Sorry cluttering your thread Ray.
It's not mine. I made it for everyone. [Flower]
Did you end up ordering night sights for yours?
Funny you should mention that. I was actually planning on running down to Bowers this morning to pick up a set of the Trijicon HD sights.
Seems my wife had other plans for me. [gohome]
I think I'm going to put a Ghost connector in it as well. The trigger is pretty heavy compared to my other Glocks.
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 15:21
It's not mine. I made it for everyone. [Flower]
Funny you should mention that. I was actually planning on running down to Bowers this morning to pick up a set of the Trijicon HD sights.
Seems my wife had other plans for me. [gohome]
I think I'm going to put a Ghost connector in it as well. The trigger is pretty heavy compared to my other Glocks.
Sights are a must, does Bowers have them in stock?
Stat tuned for my review....
Rooskibar03
05-20-2015, 15:48
I put two magazines through mine yesterday. (Was during a trip for some other stuff, didn't have much time to spend)
I was hitting low left with every shot, feels good to hold, just can't get the right grip on it. Need more time with it and I think a mag extension should they ever be in stock.
I'm pretty sure Bowers had the sights in stock last time I was there.
Also, if any of you guys prefer the magazine with the little extension on it I'd trade you mine for one with the flat base plate.
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 18:19
Aright, so here are my thoughts on the Glock 43 after a range trip, hope you don't mind me piggy backing on this thread Ray, just don't see a need for two separate G43 discussions. I'm still conflicted on the grip, it is a bit small front to back compared to the Shield, but I think some Talons would really help with this, and since Talons have pretty much become a mainstay for all my pistols, i'll be picking a set up ASAP.
I ran 170 rounds through the pistol (in a very short amount of time I might add), ammo consisted of the following (in order of firing sequence):
-50 rounds of Herters (S&B I think), 115 grain FMJ. This ammo really felt a bit snappy to me, and was not giving me a great first impression of the gun. The recoil almost felt 40S&W 'ish. Maybe I was just extra recoil sensitive today, but i'm being as accurate as possible.
-50 rounds of Federal American eagle 124 grain FMJ. This ammo is listed as 40 FPS faster than the Winchester NATO ammo that you can get, so it's not +P, but it's also not watered down either. This ammo was very mild mannered, even compared to the Herters 115 grain, and was by far my favorite load to shoot through the tiny Glock.
-50 rounds of Fiocchi 147 grain JHP. This is what I usually run through all my new 9mm pistols, as it's a pretty weak 147 grain hollow point, so if the pistol is going to struggle, it's likely to struggle with this ammo (in my opinion). The recoil on this ammo was about on par with the 124 grain, which usually isn't my experience with 147 grain, it's usually softer shooting.
-20 rounds Federal 124 grain HST. I wanted to run the HST, as this is what I carry in all my 9mm pistols. This was just a bit hotter than the 124 grain American eagle, but still pleasant to shoot.
All loads were very manageable as you'd expect from a 9mm. The G43 doesn't seem to handle recoil quite as well as the Shield, but in fairness, i've only been shooting the Shield with Talons, and I suspect that could make all the difference in the world (if you recall, I wasn't fond of the Shield sans Talons). To be honest, the "texture" on the G43, leaves a lot to be desired, as it's very mild, not allowing much in the way of grip. I also believe i've been too spoiled with the aluminum Apex trigger on my Shield, and was reminded how much I hate the serrations on the Glock trigger.
I liked the 43 enough, that I think i'll invest in sights, Talon's, and a smooth trigger, but outside of that, it's a pretty sweet little CCW piece. One issue I foresee running into until the G43 craze dies down, is spare mags. I really enjoy having the option to carry light, or stack deep with spare mags should I venture into unsavory locations, oh well. Now to get a holster for this thing.
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 18:21
Here is a pic of the 124 grain American Eagle ammo at 15 yards (50 rounds).
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/20/f9bb6f6ee290067d770840b4138fa36c.jpg
A couple stragglers, but I was trying to go as quickly as possible with my COM to head transitions.
I had the Talon grips for my 43 before I even bought the pistol. The factory texture on the 43 is really not very grippy. The Talons went on as soon as I got home.
Oh, and if I know I am going someplace that makes me nervous, think I'll pass on stacking deep with a bunch of six round mags and saddle up with the 19.
hurley842002
05-20-2015, 18:31
Oh, and if I know I am going someplace that makes me nervous, think I'll pass on stacking deep with a bunch of six round mags and saddle up with the 19.
I agree, but it's all about options, I've found its sometimes still easier to conceal a small single stack, and a few mags, than it is a larger pistol.
Hell, I use to never carry a spare mag. Now I carry a spare mag no matter what. If crimes against individuals starts going up I'm going to carry my g17 or get a g19. Thanks for the wright up, still can't wait to get one.
Rooskibar03
05-20-2015, 22:38
I'm pretty sure Bowers had the sights in stock last time I was there.
Also, if any of you guys prefer the magazine with the little extension on it I'd trade you mine for one with the flat base plate.
Ill take you up on that.
Ill take you up on that.
Ok. I'll shoot you a PM tomorrow and we'll see what we can work out.
Gregcotellc.com has mags for these. Just got the email today. $31 for the extended grip mags & $25 for the flat base mags. They also have G42 mags.
hurley842002
05-21-2015, 19:47
Gregcotellc.com has mags for these. Just got the email today. $31 for the extended grip mags & $25 for the flat base mags. They also have G42 mags.
All sold out, thanks for the heads up tho, got on the email list.
Just got mine yesterday! 58418
Wife got it for me, early Fathers day present! Put 100 rounds through it, including some 10 rounds of Federal 124 gr +P HST ammo. First shot fired at 10 yards hit dead center of my point of aim. After that I just had fun, except for the third round fired inducing a failure to feed, got hung up on the feed ramp.
hurley842002
05-21-2015, 20:05
Just got mine yesterday! 58418
Wife got it for me, early Fathers day present! Put 100 rounds through it, including some 10 rounds of Federal 124 gr +P HST ammo. First shot fired at 10 yards hit dead center of my point of aim. After that I just had fun, except for the third round fired inducing a failure to feed, got hung up on the feed ramp.
Nice!
hurley842002
05-22-2015, 19:20
Just an FYI for the G43 owners here, Neves received a large shipment of finger extension mags, $19.99 a piece, which is quite a bit cheaper than I've seen online (which are mostly out of stock). Only caveat is they don't come with a package, not a problem to me, but may bother some. I picked up four of them.
Also picked up the Ghost inc "edge" connector for my 43, wow what a difference, exactly what the stiff factory trigger needed.
A set of Ameriglo "Hackathorn" sights also went on the pistol. I'll post pics when I get a chance.
Now I need to do a fair comparison between the Shield and 43.
Got mine today for an awesome price... couldn't resist...
Irving if you want to try mine, I might hit up the range next week for lunch. Txt me...
I don't have a holster for it yet, but this little pocket holster seems to fit fine. I'll see how it is pocket carrying.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l166/kwando90/Forum%20stuff/6FCF313B-5F76-4639-BB74-CA0D180C285E_zpsympbyeij.jpg
hurley842002
05-22-2015, 21:33
Got mine today for an awesome price... couldn't resist...
Irving if you want to try mine, I might hit up the range next week for lunch. Txt me...
I don't have a holster for it yet, but this little pocket holster seems to fit fine. I'll see how it is pocket carrying.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l166/kwando90/Forum%20stuff/6FCF313B-5F76-4639-BB74-CA0D180C285E_zpsympbyeij.jpg
Nice! See my post above yours for mag intel, and I think the Ghost connector is a must.
Got mine today for an awesome price... couldn't resist...
Irving if you want to try mine, I might hit up the range next week for lunch. Txt me...
Thanks, but I was really just hoping he'd have his Shield with him if I was able to make it. I've only shot a Glock once. Thanks for the invite!
hurley842002
05-22-2015, 22:02
Thanks, but I was really just hoping he'd have his Shield with him if I was able to make it. I've only shot a Glock once. Thanks for the invite!
I'm sure we can work something out. I have one week left before starting the new gig, going shooting at least once next week.
I never have time. It's okay though, as I'd buy a Shield without ever shooting one anyway.
hurley842002
05-22-2015, 22:14
I never have time. It's okay though, as I'd buy a Shield without ever shooting one anyway.
You wouldn't be making a bad choice.
hurley842002
05-23-2015, 15:25
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Have some Talons on the way, just using some extra pieces I had laying around for now.
Just ordered a G-Code INCOG holster for mine, 4-6 week wait for it [emoji53]. 5280 armory had one 43 holster in stock, a Blackhawk! Appendix for like $23. Anybody used one of those?
^^^^ when you get that holster I'd like to know how it feel.
hurley842002
05-24-2015, 08:13
Just ordered a G-Code INCOG holster for mine, 4-6 week wait for it [emoji53]. 5280 armory had one 43 holster in stock, a Blackhawk! Appendix for like $23. Anybody used one of those?
I looked at the 42 incog at Bowers, and I'm going to have to pass, just way too thick of kydex for me. We cut capacity of our CCW to have an ultra thin pistol, more comfortable for carrying, and then we shove it into a thick bulky holster, no thanks.
Mike said they are getting a shipment of the Bladetech holster like I'm using for my Shield, extremely thin and lightweight, I'll be picking one up from him.
I looked at the 42 incog at Bowers, and I'm going to have to pass, just way too thick of kydex for me. We cut capacity of our CCW to have an ultra thin pistol, more comfortable for carrying, and then we shove it into a thick bulky holster, no thanks.
Mike said they are getting a shipment of the Bladetech holster like I'm using for my Shield, extremely thin and lightweight, I'll be picking one up from him.
I have 2 of the INCOGS already for The Glock 26/19 and aside from the 19 grip printing a bit, the holster is not hard to hide at all, also extremely comfortable. Every Blade tech Ive ever tried has just not worked for me, just my opinion. Good thing theres options out there.
Swapped out the factory connector for a Ghost 3.5 Edge connector today. Made a definite improvement in the trigger. Need to take it out again and put some more rounds through it to see if I shoot it any better now that the trigger isn't so heavy. If the next range trip goes well my next upgrade will be a set of the Trijicon HD sights.
hurley842002
05-29-2015, 17:36
Swapped out the factory connector for a Ghost 3.5 Edge connector today. Made a definite improvement in the trigger. Need to take it out again and put some more rounds through it to see if I shoot it any better now that the trigger isn't so heavy. If the next range trip goes well my next upgrade will be a set of the Trijicon HD sights.
Definitely a big improvement with the connector, likely as good as my Shield trigger. Now if the incompetent folks at the USPS can get my Talon grips delivered, since today marks day 7 for a shipment from Steamboat Springs to Thornton.
Heck, I could have grabbed you a set from Bowers today.
hurley842002
05-29-2015, 17:52
Heck, I could have grabbed you a set from Bowers today.
I've actually been to Bowers since ordering my Talons, but held off because I thought sure they'd get here in a timely fashion.
Buy a second set to justify buying another Glock 43... That's what we do!!
I'm undecided on sights myself
I'm undecided on sights myself
Undecided about replacing them or undecided on what to replace them with?
hurley842002
05-29-2015, 19:33
I picked up the Ameriglo Hackathorn sights from Bowers for $88 before tax. These have the tritium front with bright orange ring, and all black (no tritium) bladed rear sight. I like this set up quite a bit for a smaller pistol that has potential to go in and out of my pocket from time to time, as they are very low profile, especially the rear sight.
I just put the Trijicon HD's on my G19, and they are awesome (likely my favorite sight to date), but size wise, they stand a bit to tall for the smaller pistol IMO. Plus I think simpler is better on the small 43.
If you get bored, could you post a picture of that front sight on the 43?
I have borderline ADD and really need a front sight that draws my attention.
hurley842002
05-29-2015, 20:01
If you get bored, could you post a picture of that front sight on the 43?
I have borderline ADD and really need a front sight that draws my attention.
I sure will.
hurley842002
05-29-2015, 20:11
Front sight focus
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/29/726b81c5afe336e4ae4de74d92f3490a.jpg
Rear sight focus
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/29/6a5bd543aac390eff011a474ceb6bc69.jpg
Thanks. That front is pretty big and bright. Similar to the HD. I do kind of like the the "U" shaped notch on the rear sight on the Trijicon though. I'll probably just spend the coin on the Trijicons.
hurley842002
05-29-2015, 20:20
Thanks. That front is pretty big and bright. Similar to the HD. I do kind of like the the "U" shaped notch on the rear sight on the Trijicon though. I'll probably just spend the coin on the Trijicons.
Yeah its the same in size and brightness as the HD's, but I agree on the U notch. The Ameriglo's on my Shield are also the U notch and make it much easier to pick up the front sight.
What to replace them with. I've recently started shooting with blacked out rears and my eyes focus way faster on the front sight. So I'm thinking about switching all my sights
hurley842002
05-29-2015, 21:22
What to replace them with. I've recently started shooting with blacked out rears and my eyes focus way faster on the front sight. So I'm thinking about switching all my sights
I won't run anything but blacked out rears, they can have tritium, but no white outline.
alan0269
05-30-2015, 21:34
Front sight focus
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/29/726b81c5afe336e4ae4de74d92f3490a.jpg
Rear sight focus
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/29/6a5bd543aac390eff011a474ceb6bc69.jpg
Very similar to the Trijicon HD's. From what I can tell, the big differences are no tritium dots in the rear, and the front ring appears to be more red vs. the orange of the HD's. I've been going with the HD's on all of my carry pistols, and they really don't seem to be an issue height wise on the 43.
hurley842002
05-30-2015, 21:40
Very similar to the Trijicon HD's. From what I can tell, the big differences are no tritium dots in the rear, and the front ring appears to be more red vs. the orange of the HD's. I've been going with the HD's on all of my carry pistols, and they really don't seem to be an issue height wise on the 43.
Yeah definitely very similar. Truth be told I haven't seen the orange trijicon HD sights in person, only the yellow. I believe you can get the Ameriglo sights with either a single centered tritium insert (I dot), or one on each side. Going with rear tritium puts the Ameriglo sights closer in price to the Trijicons tho.
hurley842002
05-30-2015, 21:43
Better pic of the Ameriglo on my 43
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/30/32ef15a8938543a3e632a4d9b07987e3.jpg
hurley842002
05-30-2015, 22:04
One thing worth noting, that I never knew, because I've only had Ameriglo sights until recently. The Trijicon HD's seem to have an additional clear coating on the front site, whereas the Ameriglo does not. Kind of hard to explain unless you see them in person, but the HD seems like it would hold up better to solvents and what not.
Update. Range report.
Got the chance to take it out to the range today. Had it out once with the stock connector and was pressed for time and only put fifty rounds through it. Today was the first time I had it out since I installed the Ghost connector. Put 100 rounds through it. Most at seven and ten yards and then I was goofing around a bit at twenty-five yards.
Also put fifty rounds of 45 ACP through the Springfield XDS while I was there.
Here was the first magazine through the 43 at seven yards. Took my time and focused to see what it would do.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/4df391d99d2c68faef11abea8c6692e1.jpg
Then fired a second magazine.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/412f42baa05dd9248df98f1b68c9a07b.jpg
And finally a third.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/0ae26c63eda784a002243a9fe58b96e4.jpg
Overall, I'm pretty happy with the 43.
Three magazines through the XDS at ten yards didn't go quite as well but I had never shot it before and the trigger is horrible.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/22aafb24a71cc9d996d841f80eb7cd30.jpg
By the time I was done playing with both handguns this was what the two targets looked like.
Seven yards.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/e4aa366b0b274765a42eb060d6d5b4c6.jpg
Ten yards.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/0be6e81e9bb0ef114def386191a9a9c4.jpg
I'll give my 25 yard results in the next post.
My target supply is dwindling so used paper plates instead.
Here is what it looked like from my position.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/69231d1a2230ec86f30be72676ba7380.jpg
Just shot standing up unsupported as normal and sent five rounds towards the plate. Actually managed to get four of the five on the plate. Barely. I assume one shot must have gone wide left.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/81c30ebecc76839d03afeb51b3af8e13.jpg
Encouraged, I tried again with a fresh paper plate. Really took my time and focused on the fundamentals. Five out of five this time. Three of them were even pretty well centered.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/d06a30a2be544c12ffa44384890efe24.jpg
Overall, I am very pleased with the little Glock and how it performs. If I was a more skilled pistol shooter I'm sure the results would be even more impressive.
I don't know, I'm pretty impressed by those groups. Well done.
I don't know, I'm pretty impressed by those groups. Well done.
Well, it is easier when nobody's watching and the buzzer didn't just go off in you ear putting you "on the clock." Lol.
Shows great fundamentals at 25 yards though, when you can put a group together without even being able to see your shots. When I do load development, I shoot off hand at 10 yards and my groups are twice as big as yours and I consider that "good." Again, well done.
Good shooting Ray! What range do you use?
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Good shooting Ray! What range do you use?
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Colorado Rifle Club. I usually play with my handguns on the east berms but it was raining this morning so set up on the regular pistol range.
How's the holster working out?
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Tinelement
07-02-2015, 13:06
For a couple of "pocket guns", I think those groups are fantastic! Great shooting Ray.
How's the holster working out?
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Lol. Funny you should ask. I was going to send you a PM.
I seem to find it either rides too high or too low. Imagine that.
When it's too low it is difficult to grab the grip to draw and it jabs me in the leg if I sit down. Too high and the grip prints more than I like.
Might see see what I can do to fix it somehow.
No complaints about our deal though. Heck, you even told me why you didn't like it. Funny we both feel the same way about it.
For a couple of "pocket guns", I think those groups are fantastic! Great shooting Ray.
Glad you mentioned that. On another forum I occasionally troll a guy posted that he felt the 43 was nothing more than a "belly gun" and was only good for near point blank use. Maybe I should post him up some pictures over there.
Glad you mentioned that. On another forum I occasionally troll a guy posted that he felt the 43 was nothing more than a "belly gun" and was only good for near point blank use. Maybe I should post him up some pictures over there.
I'm regularly complimented at matches for the long shots I'm able to make with my M&P compact. I'm no match winner, but I always laugh when people make remarks about wanting a longer barrel for the longer shots.
Tinelement
07-02-2015, 14:08
Glad you mentioned that. On another forum I occasionally troll a guy posted that he felt the 43 was nothing more than a "belly gun" and was only good for near point blank use. Maybe I should post him up some pictures over there.
It's a tough call. I practice all my self defense draw drills within that 7 yrds. I can shoot accurately past 7 yrds. But should I? Hopefully I never ever have to make that call.
I think you have your sights dialed in and a good feel for carry gun. Keep it up!
hurley842002
07-02-2015, 14:09
Good shooting Ray! I was real tempted to pick up that G code, keep us updated on how it's working for you. I need to get out and shoot my 43 some more. As far as carrying the pistol is concerned, I couldn't be happier. As hard as it was to part with the Shield, I certainly think I made the right choice.
The 43 carries like a dream. I think I've carried it maybe four times since I've had it. Maybe a total of about eight hours but never more than two or three hours at a time. Lol.
I'm still adjusting to this whole concealed handgun deal.
And you didn't call me again?
Thats OK, the wife and I were bird watching at Barr Lake [Flower]
Looks like you had fun even if you were being anti-social [Sarcasm2]
And you didn't call me again?
Thats OK, the wife and I were bird watching at Barr Lake [Flower]
Looks like you had fun even if you were being anti-social [Sarcasm2]
I was just doing you a favor.
Wasn't much planning on my part. Just work up at about 5:00am and decided to go. I could have called you then but you would have had to rush over so we could leave at 6:00.
[Beer]
Tinelement
07-02-2015, 17:27
Good shooting Ray! I was real tempted to pick up that G code, keep us updated on how it's working for you. I need to get out and shoot my 43 some more. As far as carrying the pistol is concerned, I couldn't be happier. As hard as it was to part with the Shield, I certainly think I made the right choice.
The 43 carries like a dream. I think I've carried it maybe four times since I've had it. Maybe a total of about eight hours but never more than two or three hours at a time. Lol.
I'm still adjusting to this whole concealed handgun deal.
And it's conversation like this that's going to make me go out and buy one....
You can fondle mine or shoot it if you want. [Awesom]
hurley842002
07-02-2015, 17:47
You can fondle mine or shoot it if you want. [Awesom]
Was just about to make the same offer.
Tinelement
07-02-2015, 17:48
Once I get these triggers in the M&P's they'll need to make a run. Maybe we could do a Shoot Indoors evening.....
Maybe. I haven't been there yet.
Tinelement
07-02-2015, 18:40
Me either. Just to damn busy. It's only a few miles from the house so I need to use the new triggers as an excuse to get over there some night.
Lol. Funny you should ask. I was going to send you a PM.
I seem to find it either rides too high or too low. Imagine that.
When it's too low it is difficult to grab the grip to draw and it jabs me in the leg if I sit down. Too high and the grip prints more than I like.
Might see see what I can do to fix it somehow.
No complaints about our deal though. Heck, you even told me why you didn't like it. Funny we both feel the same way about it.
Dang it, I was hoping it was just me and how I was wearing it/belt I was using. Something you might try is remove the belt clip near the muzzle side, and then angle the other belt clip so the gun rides canted kind of like an FBI cant. It might work for you. I have used that method on my Glock 19 INCOG with good results.
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Dang it, I was hoping it was just me and how I was wearing it/belt I was using. Something you might try is remove the belt clip near the muzzle side, and then angle the other belt clip so the gun rides canted kind of like an FBI cant. It might work for you. I have used that method on my Glock 19 INCOG with good results.
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Thanks for the tip. I might give that a shot.
So what sights are you all running on these
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hurley842002
02-27-2016, 11:54
So what sights are you all running on these
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I no longer have the 43 but this is an earlier post I made:
I picked up the Ameriglo Hackathorn sights from Bowers for $88 before tax. These have the tritium front with bright orange ring, and all black (no tritium) bladed rear sight. I like this set up quite a bit for a smaller pistol that has potential to go in and out of my pocket from time to time, as they are very low profile, especially the rear sight.
I just put the Trijicon HD's on my G19, and they are awesome (likely my favorite sight to date), but size wise, they stand a bit to tall for the smaller pistol IMO. Plus I think simpler is better on the small 43.
Thanks that is what I think I'm going with. The Hackathorns that is
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hurley842002
02-27-2016, 12:05
Thanks that is what I think I'm going with. The Hackathorns that is
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I do like the Hacks, but the Trijicon HD's offer a couple minor features that I really prefer and don't mind paying the price for, including the bladed style rear sight w/tritium insert, and the ledge style rear sight. The front sight of the HD's also seem to have a protective filling to cover the fluorescent portion of the sight, not sure if it's a huge deal or not, but it's a plus.
Limited GM
02-27-2016, 17:02
Dawson Precision makes some great sights for it. I mounted up a pair and love them.
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