Monday night Pin Shoot @ Bristle Cone shooting.

[Rooskibar03]

just started a few week ago but what a great time. 5 & 7. Double elimination style. 3,4 or 5 pins @ 7 yards based on handicap. Reservations are required, it does fill up.

Not to mention getting shooting pointers from RW for free.

[DenverGP]

Yeah, I was in the 7:00pm group.... First round I did good (me and the shooter I was up against tied, so we re-shot, and I won pretty cleanly).

Second round I absolutely sucked, realized I rushed the shots and didn't really see the front sight.

third round got 2 weak hits were the pins didn't clear the table. So out in 3 rounds. But was still fun.

I'll be shooting the USPSA there on wednesday.

[Rooskibar03]

That makes two of us. See you tomorrow.

[Persocon]

good match guys, I'm the one with the .45 USP 5pm one yesterday

[DenverGP]

We need ar-15.co patches or something so we can find each other at events. I wish I had gotten in on the hats last time they were offered.

[Musashi]

Hmmm seems I am going to have to check this out. Is it going to happen the week after Memorial Day I assume?
Time to break out the CZ

http://www.bristleconeshooting.com/how-to-shoot-a-bowling-pin-match/
(http://www.bristleconeshooting.com/how-to-shoot-a-bowling-pin-match/)

[DenverGP]

I'd call to confirm, but I believe they will be running one this coming monday (Memorial day) as well.

They start taking reservations for the bowling pin matches on Tuesday for the following Monday's matches, and they do fill up pretty quick.

[colorider]

I have been shooting pins there at 5:00. I'm Andy. Bald guy w a goatee. Always laughing and having fun. Probably have met some of ya !
Dun times. Missed this weeks shoot, but will be there next Monday at 5.

[Rooskibar03]

Can't make the 5 but I've been doing the 7.

Ill also be there tonight for the USPSA match. Probably wearing a Porsche shirt.

[JohnnyEgo]

This sounds like a tremendous amount of fun. It's a bit of a drive for me, and I have to see if I can get a hall pass from the wife. Assuming I can get a handle on both those things, I'll try and sign up.

[colorider]

I work pretty closely with the owners and R.W and some of the other guys setting things up and helping out. One thing that is GREATLY appreciated is honesty about your shooting ability and skill level. If you are a hack, then sign up as a noob. If you are a good shooter, than please say so and shoot as a "yellow" card shooter. If you shoot often and are good, please say so and shoot as a "Green" card shooter. Reds get 3 pins on the back of the table, yellow 4 pins in the middle, and green 5 pins in the front of the table. That's the handicap system. It is very bad form to say you are a new shooter and start winning because you are in the wrong handicap. It keeps happening and is very annoying and the other participants really get frustrated and you will become known as a sandbagger. Better to be in a handicap above your ability and shoot like crap and move down. If you are unsure, watch a match and get a feel for it first. Heck, just go and shoot at paper pin targets and see how well you do. R.W or the other staff will easily tell you where you should be. Just don't be one of those guys who everyone talks about after your done shooting. You want people to be pulling for you, not shaking their head because you are clearing 3 pins lightning fast when you should be clearing 4 or 5 fast.
Trust me, a few sandbaggers have been to the shoots and it left a really bad impression.

[Rooskibar03]

Looking forward to advanced pin shoot. Draw from holster, 6 pins, no handicap.

Im an ok shooter and this sounds like great practice.

[DenverGP]

Yeah, I went "yellow card" last time, and it was about right... I got knocked out early, but I'll stay at yellow for my next one.

And I heard (maybe wishful thinking) that the last couple rounds would be heads up, no handicaps, 5 pins vs 5 pins.... if it's not that way, it should be.

Maybe they should look at having the beginners shoot in their own group. 4 pins vs 5 pins is a good handicap. 3 pins vs 5 pins is a bit much.

[Rooskibar03]

Yeah if you make semi final it's 5 on 5. The thought it is you are good enough to make it there you can hold your own.

Maybe increase the handicap to 4 and green to 6? A strong green shooter can still clear the table faster than most can do 4.

Whateve then end up doing, it's still great fun and more important practice.

[colorider]

Bristlecone has turned into my Guntry Club. Always have a good time there. Just spent 2 hours shooting guns and shooting some conversation. See some of ya on Monday !

[kpp80202]

I must be living under a rock (or working too damn much), but I just now learned about this place. Plus, it is just down the street from my work. I'm definitely going to check it out soon.

[colorider]

Boy did I choke last night!!!!!!!! Lesson learned,,, Don't change your game plan when you are winning. Still beating my head against the wall.

[JohnnyEgo]

Just got the hall pass from the wife, and signed up for this next Monday at 5:00 PM. Hope to see/meet some of you there!

[Rooskibar03]

Folks are in town so I had to skip last night and probably won't be there next as I'm going to shoot the steel rimfire match on wends.

[colorider]

I have to miss Monday too. Going to Costa Rica. Will be there for sure the following Monday at 5;00.

[h2so4]

Its a pretty good time. The double elimination is great. Dont be a sandbagger! I think everyone who has done it more than twice should be a Yellow, at least.

[colorider]

yea, what he said !! Last weeks winner at the 5;00 KNEW he had no competition to shoot against. He is an amazing shooter and was shooting his competition race gun. Optic and all. Prior weeks, he shot a different gun which handicapped him enough to level the playing field for him. Guess he decided to show us how good he is with his super mega pistol. And he did. Cleared pins line a bulldozer. If he does it again, I'm assuming other shooters will say something. Not sure. He did not break any rules, but pretty much left a lot of other shooters with the feeling he was not being very sportsman like. He should be shooting more pins at a farther distance. Which is not really doable with the time and format. We shall see what the next weeks bring. If this winner is a member here, bring your "other" gun next time. Everyone likes it better and it is better competition. Can't believe it is "fun" knowing nobody can come close to beating ya.
A few weeks ago a few sandbaggers won 1st and 2nd. Have not seen them since. They kind of got the stink eye from everybody.
Many new and old shooters move themselves up a level knowing they need to be handicapped. I did it and I'm not even that good. Went from 4 pins to 5 because I thought it was more fair. And I lose, but I get more pins to shoot at. More pins= more shooting and more fun. In my mind. It's a TON of fun and I don't like the sandbaggers or the ringers ruining it for everyone. Not fun for a new 3 pin shooter to go against the guy who does not miss and clears pins like a bulldozer.
Seriously, he didn't miss 1 pin all night and swept them with a speed I have never seen there before. It was impressive, but also a bummer.

[DenverGP]

There has been a lot of interest and excitement over the bowling pin shoot, but I think they need to change something or the sportsmanship issues are going to ruin it.

[colorider]

Totally agree. I'm sure they will change things up as it grows. Its a learning experience for them and everyone else.

[sneakerd]

I've been there each of the last 3 Mondays. 7pm last Monday, was 4th. A week ago won the 7pm and 2 weeks ago won the 5pm. Kind of hooked, but the spacegun old guy I saw at the 5pm shoot 2 days ago can't be beaten by anyone I've seen there the last 3 weeks. Too much gun, too good a shooter.

[Rooskibar03]

No fun winning without competition. But maybe he's in it for the gift card, 12 bucks to snag a 50$ gift card...

[sneakerd]

It was actually a drag watching spacegun guy mow 'em down. Nobody else even had a chance.. The guy who won the 7pm had a big mag funnel Glock .40 with an RMR. It almost sells me on the RMR. I knew on his first match that he was faster then me. I'm shooting an iron sight 1911.

[Rooskibar03]

Sounds like we need another table @ 15 yards.

[DenverGP]

Maybe restrict it to iron sights, or have a separate class for the optics guys.

[d_striker]

Maybe restrict it to iron sights, or have a separate class for the optics guys.


Wait, you let the open guys shoot against iron sights without any additional handicap?

On a side note, how is the lighting there? Can you see your sights?

[d_striker]

Looking forward to advanced pin shoot. Draw from holster, 6 pins, no handicap.

Im an ok shooter and this sounds like great practice.

The link on their website says start position is high ready.

Do you draw from holster or high ready?

[DenverGP]

Lighting is pretty good, but it'll be even better soon. They added additional LED lighting over the shooting stations on the pistol side, and will be doing the same on the tactical side (where they run the bowling pin shoots).

[d_striker]

Do you start with gun in holster or some form of low/high ready out of holster?

[DenverGP]

Both shooters start at high ready.

It's a cold range, you can have your unloaded gun in your holster, hammer down. On the command to load and make ready, shooters can take a sight picture with the unloaded gun, then load and chamber a round, and wait at high ready.

[d_striker]

Both shooters start at high ready.


Cocked and locked with a CZ or first shot double action?

[colorider]

Yo, optics allowed but I see that changing from last weeks results. Sneekerd, that mag funnel glock guy shot at the 5:00 too. He took 2nd. Was beat by an iron sight shooter in one of his rounds. He was a pretty nice guy. I went up up against him in the quarter finals and choked. I'm shooting an xdm 5.25 competition 9mm. Was shooting like a champ till that round. When I was finished, the peanut gallery was even making choke comments. Got plenty of hazing from bill, r.w and others. I owned it and had a ton of fun again.
Im going there today to shoot and chat. I will ask if they are planning on changing some rules and stuff based on the latest shoot results.
A few of us have also been making bets on the shooters! Join the fun ! The short gal that shoots at 5 is great to watch. She gets better and better every week. Nice gal too.

[sneakerd]

You tall with a beard?

[d_striker]

yea, what he said !! Last weeks winner at the 5;00 KNEW he had no competition to shoot against. He is an amazing shooter and was shooting his competition race gun. Optic and all. Prior weeks, he shot a different gun which handicapped him enough to level the playing field for him. Guess he decided to show us how good he is with his super mega pistol. And he did. Cleared pins line a bulldozer. If he does it again, I'm assuming other shooters will say something. Not sure. He did not break any rules, but pretty much left a lot of other shooters with the feeling he was not being very sportsman like. He should be shooting more pins at a farther distance. Which is not really doable with the time and format. We shall see what the next weeks bring. If this winner is a member here, bring your "other" gun next time. Everyone likes it better and it is better competition. Can't believe it is "fun" knowing nobody can come close to beating ya.
A few weeks ago a few sandbaggers won 1st and 2nd. Have not seen them since. They kind of got the stink eye from everybody.
Many new and old shooters move themselves up a level knowing they need to be handicapped. I did it and I'm not even that good. Went from 4 pins to 5 because I thought it was more fair. And I lose, but I get more pins to shoot at. More pins= more shooting and more fun. In my mind. It's a TON of fun and I don't like the sandbaggers or the ringers ruining it for everyone. Not fun for a new 3 pin shooter to go against the guy who does not miss and clears pins like a bulldozer.
Seriously, he didn't miss 1 pin all night and swept them with a speed I have never seen there before. It was impressive, but also a bummer.


You said it yourself, he didn't break any rules. Since you are part of the match staff, perhaps you should change the format.

[colorider]

Not part of the staff, just a frequent visitor who helps set up.
Sneakerd, I'm med size. 5'10.5. Bald head w a goatee. Big nose. Wear in the ear electronic hearing protection. Usually flapping my jaw with other guys. RW and Bryan tend to give me grief so its easy to spot me. In the briefing they always call my name loudly and just my last name. Zarlengo. I supplied them with the pins for the shoots.

[d_striker]

Oh...I assumed since you worked closely with the owners and RW that you were part of match staff.

Open vs Iron Sights is obviously not an equitable match up, ESPECIALLY INDOORS, as you can see with multiple people grumbling about it. Instead of giving an Open shooter the stink eye, and encouraging them not to bring their Open gun, why not change the format to make it a fair match up?

Perhaps you could suggest it to the match staff?

[Rooskibar03]

The link on their website says start position is high ready.

Do you draw from holster or high ready?

Monday night is shoot from high ready. Wends (every other IIRC) will be advanced where it will be draw from holster.

[sneakerd]

I'll be there again at 5pm next Monday. White hair, glasses, trim moustache. Regular street clothes, no gun advertisements. The last 3 weeks I was shooting an Ed Brown standard Special Forces model.

[Rooskibar03]

How you all be getting there for 5 o'clock. Don't y'all work ?

[hurley842002]

How you all be getting there for 5 o'clock. Don't y'all work ?
Not everyone has cush 9-5 schedules ya know..... lol

[sneakerd]

Yup- it's all about the schedule. I'm off that day.

[Irving]

I don't understand why everyone doesn't draw from the holster and shoot at 5 pins from 15 yards. How is anyone supposed to get better if it isn't hard? I didn't say anything earlier because I realized I can't comment since I haven't even attended. I'll have to see if I can break my Monday commitment some time to make it down there.

ETA: I imagine bowling pins is the step before a Texas star (which is my nightmare). Is that about right from you guys that have shot this match?

[sneakerd]

I'm guessing that they wanted something fairly easy at the start to see where it would go. Make it more inclusive. I'm quite happy trying to get better at 7 yards long before I have to shoot at 15.

[Irving]

Not to mention that misses at 7 yards can be quite a bit more humbling than misses at 15 yards.

[colorider]

Only you can be the judge on how Hard/easy it is.

[gnihcraes]

I want to attend, but have never shot in any competitions, just paper targets. Afraid to be laughed at. I'll see about making it to one of them and observe.

I like the idea of the .22 rimfire steel match though.

[glenncal1]

What guns are most people shooting at these matches, I would guess more pistols than revolvers.

[Rooskibar03]

I want to attend, but have never shot in any competitions, just paper targets. Afraid to be laughed at. I'll see about making it to one of them and observe.

I like the idea of the .22 rimfire steel match though.

The crowd is very non judgmental on performance. You will however be giving a world of crap for safety infractions.



What guns are most people shooting at these matches, I would guess more pistols than revolvers.

i haven't seen any revolvers as of yet. If say 50/50 1911 verses your other semi autos. You're limited to 10 rounds in a magazine, 2 magazines including the one in the gun.

[colorider]

I have seen a few revolvers. One kid had some badass chiapa. Seems most are shooting 40 or 45. A few with 9mm. Bring what ya have. 9mm minimum. It's a total kick in the butt even if you have only shot paper. My only experience was shooting paper and I took 5th place the 1st night. With a sub compact 40s/w. There is a lot of fun comraderie. Join the fun.
Me and 2 other dudes shoot 9mm and it moves the pins fine, but you have to be more accurate. The 45 cal is prob the best for sending the pins off the table, but I'm not adding another gun to my collection at the moment. Pins do funny things. Flop over, go flying , spin, just tip over,,, all depends on shot placement.
It is great practice and fun. Some great shooters fall to pieces once on the line under the stress of "winning".

[sneakerd]

I won the 5pm match tonight. Good clean fun.

[islandermyk]

I won the 5pm match tonight. Good clean fun.
Show off!
Need to put an eye patch on your dominant eye during a match with you... or put you 10 yards further than the rest of the shooters (like that's really gonna help us) [Coffee][Beer]

[sneakerd]

Dude- I ain't seen you in a coon's age. Where you been?

[islandermyk]

Dude- I ain't seen you in a coon's age. Where you been?
Busy working 2 jobs, ugh...

I'll be coming around your work place soon. [Beer]

You still working there, right?

[sneakerd]

Yup.

[Rooskibar03]

I won the 5pm match tonight. Good clean fun.

Congrats. I'm planning on shooting both next Monday. (Taking the day off and figure why not)

[sneakerd]

I'm planning on taking the next 2 weeks off- so to speak.

[Irving]

I definitely had the time to shoot tonight, but knew I didn't sign up in time. Bummer.

[Musashi]

I am calling tomorrow in the hopes of getting in next week. Stopped by last Friday and they were full up.

[JohnnyEgo]

I won the 5pm match tonight. Good clean fun.

You beat me out in the final heat, and deservedly so. That was very good shooting, and a well deserved victory on your part.

This was my first time doing a bowling pin shoot, and my first time doing a head-to-head competition. I have to say that I thought the handi-capping system was very well devised. It lets the novice shooters hang in until the quarter finals, and the five-on-three of a green vs. red shooter can prove quite challenging for the experienced shooter, as well as riveting to watch.

I ran the first match with my 10mm Kimber and two eight round magazines, and did not feel under-gunned or at any sort of competitive disadvantage to the folks with more rounds. If I hadn't cleared a stage within the first six rounds, I knew I was likely to lose. So I took my time aiming and put down the pins. That worked out better for me than shooting faster and having to reload. Luck got me to the finals, and there were some seriously good shooters who eliminated each-other in the earlier rounds. The handicap system seemed to work well and make for some very exciting matches.

The owner was gracious enough to allow me to shoot the second competition as well, which was very nice because I did not want to drive back to Windsor in traffic. I shot the second competition with a Sig 1911 and silencer, and made it to third place in that group. Everybody was very gracious and complimentary, in both victory and defeat, and I truly had a great time. I'd encourage anyone who can to try the bowling pin shoot and support Bristlecone. Great venue, great people, great time.

[sneakerd]

I appreciate the comment, and thanks. Thought that you looked familiar- we met a couple of years ago up at Pawnee for a COAR shoot. The mag capacity thing is exactly how I feel. My first 2 weeks I used only 2 8 round mags in my .45 and had no problem, used close to the minimum number of rounds anyway. Then I went to slidelock one time and decided to get one 10 round mag. So I start with the 10 in the gun and then there is an 8 on the bench. It's true that if you need to reload, you've -probably- already lost. The only reloading I've seen was from not-so-good shooters paired together in an elimination. Last week, when I got 4th, was when I tried to speed up because the winner had an RMR. I was glad to see that they changed the rules, making Monday nights iron sight only. No more red dots or optics on Monday night! My advice to anyone is to go slow quickly. Most people miss at least once, if not twice, and if you don't, you're going to win 99% of the time.

[Rooskibar03]

Good to know about no more RMR. Gonna shoot my FN next week so I'll take it off.

Gonna try different guns at the two and see how I perform with each.

[Musashi]

Alright dudes I just signed up for the 5PM session next week. I hope to meet a couple of you.
I hope to put in a decent showing as it sounds like the matches are mostly booked already, geez!

[sneakerd]

A .45 will knock the pins down and off much better than a 9mm. 40 seems to do ok too. I use hollowpoints so a little more power generally. I'm told that hardball can bounce right off if not well placed and tends to ricochet.

[Persocon]

I use .45 hardball to plug and weigh down all the pins so all the people using 9s can't knock em over towards the end lol

[colorider]

I will be at the 5:00 on Monday. With my 9mm pin slayer. lol. Bald dude w a goatee and a great tan Just finished a week vacation in the hot sun of south America. My shooting will probably reflect my week off from shooting.
My name is Andy. Feel free to make fun of me.

[Irving]

I have next Monday (6/15) off and will try to sign up for that one.

[Great-Kazoo]

Maybe, possibly, thinking about attending one of the monday night shoots. Model 15 38spl with 158 swc's

[Rooskibar03]

Time to blast some pins.

[colorider]

Some fun and good shooting at the 5:00 today. !

[DenverGP]

My wife, son and I all shot at the 7pm shoot. Was a lot of fun. Wife and I were sharing my RIA 1911, and ended up shooting right after each other almost every time.

I slowed down and did much better, until my last round. I'm shooting a 1911, with 8 round mags, so I loaded up one barney round, put the safety on, then inserted a fresh mag, but it didn't seat all the way. So I got one shot, then malfunction, and by the time I got it running again, felt like I was so far behind that I rushed and blew it. People watching said if I had stayed calm I still had a good chance.

The wife has only been shooting about a year now, and never done any kind of competition. She did pretty bad first round, then some tips from RW and she did good her next couple.

The kiddo did ok, overall aim was pretty good, and he seemed quicker target to target, but missed a couple tough shots trying to clear a couple knock-downs. He's also using a 40S&W Sig P250, which is DAO with a really REALLY long trigger pull.

Lots of fun, very nice group, and lots of good sportsmanship.

[Musashi]

So who is going tonight?
I will be there wearing a green BCM hat and running a G19
Good luck!

[colorider]

Shot at 5:00. 1st match was great. Then sucked my other 2. Double elimination happened fast tonight. Had fun but am disappointed in my performance.

[DenverGP]

Looking forward to next week to try out my new sights on my 1911. I'll be signing up for the 7pm match.

[Rooskibar03]

And I'm looking forward to trying my new 1911. Surely this will put me in first place.

[colorider]

THEY ARE RUNNING VERY LOW ON PINS !!!!
Please swing by your local alley and NICELY ask if they have any used pins they would be willing to part with.
The smaller the alley the better as I have found they are more likely to have them. Feel free to try the large bowling centers too as they sometimes have them.
This is critical in order to keep the pin shoots going and at the price. I got them 150 or so pins at the start and my source is dried up till August.
Thanks to all who can scrounge up some pins !!!

[Irving]

I got a bunch free from that bowling alley on 16th Street mask a few years ago. Just called and asked.

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't understand why everyone doesn't draw from the holster and shoot at 5 pins from 15 yards. How is anyone supposed to get better if it isn't hard? I didn't say anything earlier because I realized I can't comment since I haven't even attended. I'll have to see if I can break my Monday commitment some time to make it down there.

ETA: I imagine bowling pins is the step before a Texas star (which is my nightmare). Is that about right from you guys that have shot this match?

WAYYYYYYY late responding. From what i understand there was a guy in a wheelchair shooting a few weeks back. For someone like him or myself, shooting from holster may not be doable, or safe.
This is also set up as a fun shoot, based on what i've been reading. You want competition, bring some cash and let me know when you're going. I'll charge up the rascal and meet you there ;)

[JohnnyEgo]

This is about bringing people into the sport and having fun. Hard to bring someone new in and then have them get eliminated from the get-go because they suck at the draw from their Uncle Mike's holster. No draw, no reload from belt also means no additional equipment to buy. My understanding is that they will have a Wednesday night pin shoot including draw from the holster for the more competition minded.

I will be in for next Monday's shoots. Looking forward to it. Might try to shoot each one with a different pistol just to try things out. I've tried to come up with a way to describe myself other than 'generic white man #4'. The best that I can come up with is that I am polite and I carry my guns in a toolbox or bag. Please say 'hey' if you see me there.

[sneakerd]

I'm signed up for this next Monday at 5pm.

[colorider]

They are having advanced pin shooting starting next week I think. It will be a separate night. Optics shoot in a different class. All draw from holster and shoot 5 pins. Must be holster certified by bristlecone.
Remember, bring pins if you can find some. I'm bringing them another 20 today.

[JohnnyEgo]

Will be there tonight. I will be the guy in red gloves shooting either a 10mm 1911 or a .45 USP. Assuming I can get out of the door in the next 20 minutes, that is...

[Great-Kazoo]

Will be there tonight. I will be the guy in red gloves shooting either a 10mm 1911 or a .45 USP. Assuming I can get out of the door in the next 20 minutes, that is...

[ROFL3]

[sneakerd]

I shot at 5- got eliminated in the semis. Didn't have a good feeling about today to start with!!

[colorider]

Shot at 5. Lost my first match. Then 2nd. Had my 10 yr old boy w me to cheer me on. No cheering, Instead he said " you should have practiced".

[sneakerd]

Ok... dudes.... we need to at least -try- to introduce ourselves. I think next time I'm there I'm just calling out before the match- "Anyone here from COAR?". I won't be there for the next few weeks though.

[DenverGP]

Yeah, shot the 7pm match, whole family again. Wife did better, her gun handling skills are improving. And new dawson sights on the 1911 did great. Now just need to slow down and actually hit the pins. Wife and I both eliminated right before the semis. My son did really good using his DAO sig p250, but got eliminated in the semis.

[JohnnyEgo]

Showed up late to the 5:00 PM shoot because of traffic. I won my first heat, but couldn't get back into the groove, and was eliminated by much better shooters in pretty short succession.

Shot the 7:00 PM shoot with my USP Match, and discovered that even though it had a safety, it wasn't SAO, so I was required to start both decocked and with the safety on. I lost my first heat, but made it much further along in the loser brackets by taking the time to cock instead of trying to take that first DA shot.

Had a good time tonight, and looking forward to the next one. One of these days, I'll buy a hat with a velcro patch, and stick some of the COAR patches on it or something. After the ass-kicking I got tonight, I'll also probably go back to my 1911 with the can for the next one.

And yes, Jim, I could not get out the door in the next 20 minutes. Marriage was the death of any semblance of timeliness on my part, and children nailed that coffin shut.

[Great-Kazoo]

Don't worry guys. I'll show up to shoot at one of the 5p.m. matchs. It will make all of you look like rock stars.

[colorider]

I shot good, just the others shot better. Having problems clearing the pins off the table w a 9mm once the pins are heavy w lead. A new caliber is not in my budget just to shoot pins, so I'm looking to get some heavier 9mm ammo. Shooting 124gr because it showed to have for fpe than the 147gr. I don't load my own.

[Rooskibar03]

I shot good, just the others shot better. Having problems clearing the pins off the table w a 9mm once the pins are heavy w lead. A new caliber is not in my budget just to shoot pins, so I'm looking to get some heavier 9mm ammo. Shooting 124gr because it showed to have for fpe than the 147gr. I don't load my own.

I ran into the same issue two weeks ago. Shot my VP9 and hit 5 with 5 but only one left the table. By the time I went back and tried to clean up I'd lost the match.

Next week I'm going to give it a go with 1911 and see what happens. I got some full size pin paper targets and need to get some practice in.

[Irving]

Having to clear the pins all the way off the table sounds like it really adds another level of difficulty altogether. Are the tables getting shot up pretty well?

[Rooskibar03]

Tables were replaced as of two, maybe 3 weeks ago. They get pretty hammered but it's just a half sheet of plywood so cost to replace can't be to bad. Been calling some local bowling alleys looking for pins but not having much luck.

[Rooskibar03]

So tonight was first night of advanced pins. 5 pins, no handicap. Hands on chin and ear, draw from holster, reloads from belt as well. Only 10 shooters for the 7 pm and it was a good crowd. Got my ass handed to me and was out early but it was fun. With so few shooters there was some practice and extra shooting after.

[sneakerd]

I'm curious- were the winners super fast guys with all the high speed stuff and high speed skills on display? I'm just curious how it looked to you.

[Rooskibar03]

I'm curious- were the winners super fast guys with all the high speed stuff and high speed skills on display? I'm just curious how it looked to you.

The guy who won was quick, like stupid quick, running a Glock with RMR. The other players were shooting same gear they always run but it was the guys who are always consistently good shooters. It's a different skill set for sure but it was nice (even RW pointed) having a group of more skilled shooters who didn't need baby sitting. There wasn't an RO standing over you, show clear, drop hammer and holster was done on your own and range called clear.

Id say it's worth a go for sure.

[JohnnyEgo]

Will be there tomorrow for both matches. Hope to see some of you there.

[Irving]

Watched some of the videos posted. This looks pretty tough. Didn't register in time this week. I'm eager to get down there and try this out!

The least amount of times you would shoot is 2, what has been the most times someone has had to shoot? Also, is this one of those things where you can reload, but if you do you've pretty much lost, or is it only the capacity of what is in the gun?

[JohnnyEgo]

By nature of the double elimination, you could have what happened to me my first time through. I entered the losers bracket on the first round, then had to shoot against the remaining losers who didn't eliminate each other, plus those coming down from the winners bracket. I think I shot something like eight to ten times from first in the loser bracket to last in the winners bracket. Then Sneakerd beat the snot out of me in the final round. In subsequent competitions where I've made it to the quarter finals, I've shot four to five times riding the winner bracket.

I never had to reload, so I burned through something like 80-90 rounds that first time through. I'd probably come with 100 to 150 to be on the safe side.

You can have 10 rounds in each magazine, regardless of greater magazine capacity. It all depends on who you draw against. Many of the expert shooters who choose to use 9mm have to reload. Get two against each-other, and it can go to slide lock on one if not both magazines. A talented shooter with a caliber that does a good job clearing the pins probably won't need to reload.

Just bought the detent plate to convert my USP Match from DA/SA to SAO. Going to see if the quicker response time will get me back into the quarter finals with it.

[Irving]

That's the exact info I was looking for, as I noticed that the site said to bring 100-150 rounds. Thank you. Sounds like a real blast!

[Rooskibar03]

See you at 7.

[sneakerd]

I've never had to reload- shooting a standard cap 1911. Was using just standard 8 round mags for my first 2 wins, then went to slidelock once. Decided to bring a 10 round 1911 mag. So now I start with a 10-rnd mag in the gun and an 8 rndr on the bench. I won't be able to be there tonight, but I'll be there next Monday. Prob at 5pm.

[colorider]

I taking a break this week. No pins for me.

[JohnnyEgo]

First match was really frustrating because my Kimber did not want to run tonight. Kept getting failures to feed across multiple magazines and ammo types. I was able to limp through four rounds before getting soundly spanked.

Second match I shot with my suppressed Sig 1911 and did much better. Ended up in third place over-all, and lost my shot at the finals by my last pin hitting the floor slightly after the other guy. Made me feel a little bit better.

I grumbled quite a bit last week when I missed my opportunity to sign up, but I do have to say that holding to the limit of 24 made both shoots go much faster tonight. Some very good shooters were also eliminated surprisingly early, and the vast majority of shooters tonight were in the expert class. I will miss next week's shoot for work, but I definitely plan to shoot at the one after that. Good times.

[Rooskibar03]

I should have said hi, especially when you knocked me out, good times.

That said these arrived today. Gonna get me some practice in.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah253/Rooskibar03/5be4348c793f89e2ed79dc460a941510_zpsipt7qnxj.jpg

[Irving]

I'm signed up for both the 5pm and the 7pm for this upcoming match on the 20th. Hope I can get a gun together before then. See you guys there.

[sneakerd]

I'm signed up for 7pm next week. Got the last slot.

[JohnnyEgo]

I'm signed up for 5:00, and possibly bringing Great-Kazoo, providing he doesn't old-man out on me.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm signed up for 5:00, and possibly bringing Great-Kazoo, providing he doesn't old-man out on me.

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.pA1p%2flHJcqiUA8ghPlZHCQ&pid=15.1&P=0

[Rooskibar03]

Don't forget this coming Wednesday is advanced pin night. Draw from holster, no handicap.

[Great-Kazoo]

Don't forget this coming Wednesday is advanced pin night. Draw from holster, no handicap.

No handicap?? I'll be bringing my ADA lawyer and clean up. [facepalm]

[Great-Kazoo]

Any intel on this Big John's Pizza down the block from BC ? Or is there a better place to eat, without busting ones meager stipend?

[Brass]

There is an Old Chicago a few blocks away with a great rooftop patio!

[driver]

I just got the last 5 o'clock slot for tonight.

[Great-Kazoo]

There is an Old Chicago a few blocks away with a great rooftop patio!

I asked for a decent food place, Old C's ?? You of all people should know that. Going to be there, it's been a while.

[JohnnyEgo]

I'll be wearing a tan ball-cap and gloves, and most likely be shooting a USP Match. I'll also have a grumpy tattooed old guy as my +1, so I ought to be easily identifiable. Please say 'hi' if you are in the 5:00 PM group.

[Irving]

Clock is ticking. Will Irving make it?

[Irving]

Shot the broken gun for the 5 o'clock and it didn't go well. Switching to backup gun for a second try. Johhny cleaned it up tonight. Kazoo started strong as well. Driver went almost all the way as well.

[ray1970]

Would I embarrass myself if I showed up to one of these?


And if I wouldn't then what kind of equipment do I need?

[Irving]

No you wouldn't. There are some brand new people. Everyone shot 5 pins at 5 o'clock. All you need is a gun and two mags. A lot of people don't even have a holster.

They are practically begging people to sign up for the holster draw match on the 4th Wednesday.

[ray1970]

I couldn't make the five o'clock time slot during the week but might be able to do the seven o'clock depending on where I'm working. Might have to check it out sometime.

[Great-Kazoo]

Would I embarrass myself if I showed up to one of these?


And if I wouldn't then what kind of equipment do I need?

Gun the works, mags & ammo. Aside form the standard Eyes & Ears. OH YEAH NO STEEL CASE Ammo.

[JohnnyEgo]

Sneakerd didn't show to the 5:00 PM shoot tonight, so I had a chance to win. It was a good group tonight. In proof that life is random, the guy I beat in the finals had just previously powered through what had to be the fastest run of the evening. He was wicked fast. Just caught a bad break on the finals and gave my pokey ass a chance to catch up and win.

Good group of guys out tonight from the forums, including GK, Irving, and Driver. Driver in particular showed up with a 9mm, had to buy some ammo while there, and had some tough pin breaks, but still made it all the way to the quarter finals. Very impressive shooting for the first time up.

[Rooskibar03]

Man what a crummy night to miss. Putting my call in early tomorrow.

[Irving]

Okay, used a gun that works for the 7 o'clock match and it was a lot more fun that way. I accidentally brought steel cased ammo and had to buy range ammo. As far as anyone being embarrassed, only if you shoot steel core ammo (I slid by unnoticed by the crowd, but the second guy got hazed and talked about) or if you don't step up when they call your number. Otherwise, it is just like every other match where a lot of people are there with friends and only half paying attention.

My assessment of the match is that it is a lot of fun (when you're winning) and a GREAT way to enter competition if you've never done so before. With fixed targets, no movement, and no holster draw or fancy equipment requirements it is perfect for those hesitant to jump into IDPA or IPSC or USPSA. On the other hand, shooting head to head with another shooter keeps it interesting. I think this match is a great way to learn to shoot accurate, and fast at the same time. I don't know if I'll ever be able to shoot again, but I'd like to. I had a lot of fun, met new faces (from here) and hope to see you guys again.

Sneakered, were you there? I asked around but everyone I was with has never met you before.

[Irving]

A few more things JohnnyEgo just reminded me about. The unique thing about brackets is that even if you get knocked out, there can still be people left that you can handily beat, so it can be frustrating.

On the 9mm point, with good hits, the pins go down okay; but I definitely lost (and saw another guy lose the same way) when I knocked a pin over first, but it took its time rolling around and hit the floor right after the other guy.

[DenverGP]

Finally met a couple guys from the site at the 7pm shoot tonight. Driver and Irving, nice seeing you guys. I was rusty as hell tonight, the rounds I did manage to win were mostly due to the other shooter having bad luck. I'll be one of the last remaining yellow shooters at this rate. My son did good tonight with his Sig P250 DAO gun. He was a yellow card guy tonight, but will definitely be bumped up to green for next time. When he hit the quarter finals tonight and had to shoot 5, he tried to speed up and missed badly. Hopefully next time shooting 5 the entire time will let him get in the rhythm.

[Irving]

Did he shoot right after I got knocked out? I never put it together that he was your son. Very nice to meet you guys tonight!

[Not_A_Llama]

Thinking about signing up for the next match - Monday, I assume. Will a 9mm shooting 147gr be able to put down pins well enough?

[driver]

Thinking about signing up for the next match - Monday, I assume. Will a 9mm shooting 147gr be able to put down pins well enough?

Yes. I didn't have to buy ammo, a friend just let me use some of his 147gr and it definitely moved the pins better than the 115gr WWB.

I'm glad I made it down there. I had fun shooting with everyone tonight.

[driver]

I'm sorry I missed JohhnyEgo and GK when you guys left. Did you grab some food in the neighborhood?

[Irving]

Not_a_llama, you would fit right in at the 4th Wednesday match where there are no handicaps and everyone draws from a holster. Sign up for Mondays go fast, but I guess Wednesday has fewer shooters.

[Great-Kazoo]

Thinking about signing up for the next match - Monday, I assume. Will a 9mm shooting 147gr be able to put down pins well enough?

It should. Sometimes they go down, others, not like you want them to. IMO doesn't matter how heavy, light or caliber your running. I lucked out first run. Number 3 the mag i borrowed from another shooter, got hinky on me. Conveniently when i was shooting against the guy who lent it to me.

Be nice (depending on work & vacation schedules) to do an informal forum get together there. Or make it so others can spot you by hat, shirt, crappy shooting.

[Rooskibar03]

Running 9mm you have to be a little more spot on with shot placement where as 45 tends to take them right off the table. Last time I ran 9 I hit 5 pins with 5 shots but only 1 left the table and it was game over by the time I started clearing them.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm sorry I missed JohhnyEgo and GK when you guys left. Did you grab some food in the neighborhood?

Yes. RobertH joined us at jason's deli. IF you eat there, trust me, don't order anything that needs to be assembled. I think Robert's still there waiting on his sandwich. Next time might try Anthony's Pizza, or what ever someone else suggest.

[JohnnyEgo]

So as a final observation for the night, there are a great many wonderful people there, and a few pure-bred assholes, which has been consistent week-to-week. Most shooters are really good guys who congratulate both those they win against and those they lose to. And then there are a couple who want to play head-games and push the limit of the rules, but cry out when they perceive somebody else as having an unfair advantage.

I got a lot of good-natured ribbing when I shot suppressed the last time I was there, and most of the folks I beat out were very gracious in defeat. People seemed to enjoy it for spectacle if nothing else, and I earned the dubious nickname of 'John the Assassin', but it was all in good fun. However, one individual tried to throw a fit when I beat him, stating that my can was a compensator and he felt it was unfair. RW and Brian graciously allowed me to carry on, and told the other individual he got beat and that was the end of it.

Edit on a re-read of Irving's response. Initially thought someone ratted him out about the steel case ammo. Bottom line is the vast majority of people there are really great people and really open to new shooters. And then there are one or two a-holes. I spanked the guy again who threw a fit on me last time, which made me very happy, even more-so then winning.

[DenverGP]

Initially thought someone ratted him out about the steel case ammo.

Bristlecone has a written restriction on any steel ammo, so I'm sure their (the owner and range officers) reasoning wasn't based on any perceived advantage, but simply range rules. I didn't hear who brought it to their attention, but I'd like to hope they didn't do it due to poor sportsmanship, but rather out of interest in safety of the range. I know steel rounds can cause problems with the backstop.

[DenverGP]

Did he shoot right after I got knocked out? I never put it together that he was your son. Very nice to meet you guys tonight!

Yeah, I think so... he's shorter than me, much wider and more muscular. My wife, son, and me were all hanging out next to the door to the other side of the range.

[Irving]

As for the steel ammo, both times the range officer noticed it sparking against the traps and had it tested. The next time I shot after I got called on it I heard someone say, "See, you didn't need that steel after all!" So there must be some people who think of it as an advantage. I made an honest (dumb) mistake. I shoot indoors so infrequently that I didn't even think about it.

Denver GP, that would have been your son who shot after me. I didn't think there was enough age difference between you two to think he was your kid; keep up the good looks! ;)

[sneakerd]

I was there- made it into the quarter finals while not shooting very well. White hair, glasses, faded blue jeans and a plaid shirt. Shooting a Nighthawk lefty out of a holster. I am often referred to there as "Mr. Clean". Not shooting very clean these days though.

[colorider]

I got tired of the few assholes, so I took a break from the Monday shoots ( 4 weeks). will be back next week I think.

[DenverGP]

I was there- made it into the quarter finals while not shooting very well. White hair, glasses, faded blue jeans and a plaid shirt. Shooting a Nighthawk lefty out of a holster. I am often referred to there as "Mr. Clean". Not shooting very clean these days though.

Fellow lefty here. I definitely noticed you.... and you looked pretty scary clean/fast for a few rounds at least.

If that was you on an off night, I can't wait to watch when you are having a good night.

[Irving]

I saw you Sneakerd, and wondered if that might be you. While I'm not shy, I gave up on asking people "Are you from the board?" years ago because no one ever was. Good shooting.

[sneakerd]

Definitely an off night- mind was not on the game so I just tried to relax. Had a couple of good runs when I needed them- but everyone's getting better so the margin of error is narrower. Won't be there next Monday but likely the week after. Maybe I can get my mind right by then! I really wanted to call out for COAR members when we were all on the range after the safety briefing, but pussed out.

[JohnnyEgo]

At the rate we are going, we may end up being 50% of the crowd.

[colorider]

Going to do the advanced pins tomorrow. Anybody else? . Also, did any of you shoot the uspsa there last week ? It was a good time.

[Rooskibar03]

Going to do the advanced pins tomorrow. Anybody else? . Also, did any of you shoot the uspsa there last week ? It was a good time.

I'll be there tomorrow. Sorry I missed last match, would have liked to run it but was traveling for work. I'm going to shoot the match at Centenial GC on Sunday to at least get something in the month.

[Not_A_Llama]

I'll be shooting the 7 o'clock match tomorrow. First time at a pin shoot, so take it easy on a newbie.

[Rooskibar03]

I'll be shooting the 7 o'clock match tomorrow. First time at a pin shoot, so take it easy on a newbie.

I wouldn't expect much love on advanced night, but it's a good group and IMHO more fun than Monday's.

[Limited GM]

Without reading through 11 pages...can I get the cliff notes of where this place is located and, uh, what are yall using for criteria of calling others "ringers?"

[driver]

Bristlecone Shooting, Training, & Retail Center
12105 W Cedar Dr, Lakewood, CO 80228
http://goo.gl/maps/aM6WF

[JohnnyEgo]

Without reading through 11 pages...can I get the cliff notes of where this place is located and, uh, what are yall using for criteria of calling others "ringers?"

Since a handicap system is used to give novice shooters a chance against more proficient ones, you will rightly be called a sand-bagger or ringer if you claim to be a brass-tacks novice to shoot three pins instead of five. If you make it to the quarter-finals, you will be promoted to expert regardless. If the owner feels you are sand-bagging, you will be field promoted to expert. If you think you are only an average shooter, or are particularly nervous about competing, it's probably ok to call yourself an intermediate (4 pins) until proven otherwise.

[colorider]

Wednesday is "advanced pins". which means you draw from a holster and everyone gets 5 pins. You must be holster qualified by Bristlecone. This is my first advanced shoot and I am expecting to have a great time!!! Have shot many of the regular Monday night shoots and have a lot of fun. Either event can have all kinds of surprises as far as good guys losing to less talented shooter, so come out and have fun. Malfunctions, leaving the safety on, mags falling out, choking, all these things happen and change the match. Heck, I once shot against a guy who had a part fall off his gun and he couldn't fire another round. It caused me to win. Which was nice because I was a pin behind. Mag changes are another part that is a game changer. The holster draw should add some good action and failures to the fun!

[Rooskibar03]

Wednesday is "advanced pins". which means you draw from a holster and everyone gets 5 pins. You must be holster qualified by Bristlecone. This is my first advanced shoot and I am expecting to have a great time!!! Have shot many of the regular Monday night shoots and have a lot of fun. Either event can have all kinds of surprises as far as good guys losing to less talented shooter, so come out and have fun. Malfunctions, leaving the safety on, mags falling out, choking, all these things happen and change the match. Heck, I once shot against a guy who had a part fall off his gun and he couldn't fire another round. It caused me to win. Which was nice because I was a pin behind. Mag changes are another part that is a game changer. The holster draw should add some good action and failures to the fun!


Last advanced night was blast. Maybe 2 dozen people so we finished quick and then spent some time playing. Ran some matches with 3 rounds in first mag, shoot to lock back and then reload. Made for a challenge and upped the skill involved.

Looking forward to tonight. First time with new belt and rig.

[colorider]

Damn it. I'm out and about for the day and prob didn't bring enough ammo for tonight with "after the match" playing and shooting.
Going to have to call in for support from a buddy who can bring me some extra ammo.
Rooskibar, is your name Craig? If so, you and I have chatted a lot at the range.

[Not_A_Llama]

I just switched up to the 5pm shoot - may have some extra. How many rounds does this usually take?

[Rooskibar03]

Damn it. I'm out and about for the day and prob didn't bring enough ammo for tonight with "after the match" playing and shooting.
Going to have to call in for support from a buddy who can bring me some extra ammo.
Rooskibar, is your name Craig? If so, you and I have chatted a lot at the range.


Thats me. I'm shooting 9 tonight and have 5 mag x 10 loaded plus 150 more.

[colorider]

Prob won't take long at all for the official match. If there is shooting after , will prob need more. 100 should be plenty.
I have a buddy bringing me some extra. Thanks a lot for the offer though. Good people on here.
i will be the bald guy w a goatee and a blue Volcom tshirt. Andy.
see you all at the range.

[Great-Kazoo]

100 is more than enough, especially if you hit the pins.

[Irving]

I think I shot 5 or 6 times and used just under 50 rounds. Had I kept going i would have shot maybe 3 more times max. I was able to clear with less than 10 rounds every time, but that wasn't the case for everyone.

[Irving]

I signed up for the 7pm tonight. Everyone bring your A-game, and bring an extra one for me.

[colorider]

5:00 was a complete kick in the pants. LOTS of shooting and fun games. We didn't do the traditional bracket shooting, but rather played several other pin shooting games against each other.

[ray1970]

Shoot. I was home at 4:30 today. (Which is unusual for me) I probably could have made the 7:00 slot.

[Not_A_Llama]

Fun match. Nice to (re)meet some of y'all.

147gr 9mm Bayou bullets did great when I did my part.

[Rooskibar03]

That was by far the most fun pin night. Need more shooters to make sure it continues. Good to meet a few of you.

147 is the way to go if shooting 9mm. I'd like to see a running scoreboard of individual times from the holster.

[buffalobo]

I am either going to have to lock this thread or start showing up for Pin nite.

Missing out on too much fun stuff.

[Irving]

I shot at 7 and thought it was only half as much fun. I showed up to compete and only got to a little. I shot okay out of the holster timed, but wanted to do that more times. Then, there were a couple times when they set up a good scenario for two against one, but when I stepped up to be the one, they changed the pins into something that was way too easy. It was fun, but I'd like to work on skills more than just blasting pins.

[colorider]

Irving,
Good input. Sometimes it is hard for R.W to follow the match and figure out who has shot and who has not. Make sure to speak up and say "hey, I want to shoot that again, or I have not shot that yet".

[Irving]

I actually did, but got made fun of instead. All in good fun though. Which one is R.W? Is that the famous instructor that everyone is always talking about? Had no idea I'd actually met the guy a few times now.

As a side note, I like the group of guys that come to these matches. Good fun guys that are fun to be around. The quality of the people you're shooting with is half the enjoyment of any match in my opinion.

[Great-Kazoo]

I actually did, but got made fun of instead. All in good fun though. Which one is R.W? Is that the famous instructor that everyone is always talking about? Had no idea I'd actually met the guy a few times now.

As a side note, I like the group of guys that come to these matches. Good fun guys that are fun to be around. The quality of the people you're shooting with is half the enjoyment of any match in my opinion.

Stop wearing that rainbow colored Hello Kitty shirt and they'll stop laughing.
Next time they laugh, toss a few dollars on the table and ask if anyone's ready to step up.

[Irving]

That almost happened tonight. I was hoping it would have.
For the record, no one was laughing at me, just good natured ribbing. I don't know if I'm quite good enough to be throwing money around, but that's not a bad idea.

[colorider]

R.W is the taller fellow with the gray bushy mustache. Our group was in stitches laughing a few times. He was nicknamimg shooters and damn they were funny. Jock and strap, Vato,,,,,
I would have to agree that the people are what make this a lot of fun. Great comradrie. Met and shot w Warren from here. He shot great and a super nice guy. Chatted with rooski at for a bit after the 5:00.

[Irving]

Ahh, thanks. I know exactly the guy to whom you're referring.

[Rooskibar03]

Someone hung a $10 spot on a booth at one point. Not sure any money exchanged hands but it was a good time. Looking back probably got to shoot as much as I would on a normal pin night so I was ok with it.

Way more fun than Monday's.

[colorider]

At 5:00 we were making $20 bets w r.w. Based on time. Was a hoot.

[Rooskibar03]

Who's shooting tomorrow? Ill be there @ 7.

[colorider]

Can't make it this time. Dang work.

[driver]

I'm working tonight.

[Irving]

JohnnyEgo and I hung out tonight having a good ole time. Anyone else from the board shoot tonight?

[JohnnyEgo]

Irving's being modest. He had two exceptional achievements tonight.
1. He made it to the finals and took 2nd place.
2. He crushed the dreams and aspirations of a 13 year old boy on his very first shoot.

Moral of the story: Don't piss off Irving.

I had a good time. Shot the first round with my Glock 19, and did passably well. Shot the second round with my Kimber 10mm, which finally ran well again. Did better in that one until Irving spanked me in the semi-finals. Took third place overall. No 13 year old boy dreams were crushed in the making of my third place finish, so I am pretty content with the results.

[Irving]

I was watching all the videos, and while I didn't hear it at the time, you can clearly hear you saying on the video, "If my friend wins, I'm going to make fun of him for beating a 13 year-old boy. If he loses, I'm going to make fun of him for losing to a 13 year-old boy." I was actually really nervous about the 3 pins vs 5 pins and had no idea who I was shooting against until it was all over. The next round was against the guy that won the 5 o'clock where I had him, but stopped shooting at my last pin. I had the camera at a bad angle so you hardly see the pins at all, but man what a battle that one was! I wish the video were better.

Oh yeah I can be totally honest and say that there is a kid younger than the one tonight that shoots IDPA at both FRIDPA (Dumont) and ECOIDPA (CRC) that I sometimes have a hard time staying ahead of. His dad kicks my ass (and everyone else's ass) every week though.

It was really great shooting with you tonight. Let me know if you want me to post the video of our match. It was pretty dang close when you frazzled me at the end there.

[JohnnyEgo]

Don't go to too much trouble, but if you want to post it, I certainly don't mind seeing how it looked from the other side when you beat me.
I can also prove to my wife that I really am going bowling pin shooting and not out looking for hookers and blow.
I enjoyed shooting with you as well. You were wicked fast with that Glock.
I have to be down in South Denver all next week, but I am going to try and make it again on Monday. The new handi-capping system certainly keeps it more challenging, and I liked that quite a bit.

[Irving]

Haha, I think my wife also felt better actually seeing what i was doing.

[Rooskibar03]

I missed last nigh. What are we doing new with handicap?

[Irving]

Basically they said that as people got better, pretty much everyone was Green now, but within that group they still had Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced shooters, all shooting five pins. So they rolled a bunch of people back to Reds and Yellows. Also, before if you made it to the Semi-finals, you were shooting five pins no matter what. Now the handicap stays with you all the way through. The 5 pm match was between a Green and Yellow shooter.
They also said that if you win first or second place, you're ineligible to win anything for the next three weeks. You can still win the match, you just don't get any prizes. This will push the prize levels down and keep the newer shooters interested. They said that these matches tend to turn into trophy hunting matches where people would show up, see some good shooters there, then just go home and they don't want that to happen.

I was trying to pitch them on the idea that they look at what local poker tournaments do where they give nightly winners an entry token into a year end tournament with real cash prizes. Right now, if they skim $1 off each entry fee for the Monday night matches, they could have ~$1,100 in prizes at the end of the year. I suggested they bump the price from $12 up to $15, skim off $3 per entry and have ~$7,000 in cash prizes available for an end of the year tournament/s. I also suggested that the end of the year tournament could either be something like increasing distances at each round, or a candlestick pin match or something.

[Rooskibar03]

Sounds like good changes. I'll be there next Monday at the 7, maybe the 5 as well if I can swing it.

Im all for mixing it up. Hell I'd be willing to draw from holster against a less experienced shooter just to keep my game up.

Also been toying with brining something like the Shield or 43 to see how it goes.

[Irving]

Im all for mixing it up. Hell I'd be willing to draw from holster against a less experienced shooter just to keep my game up.



I had the same exact thought actually. 3 or 4 pins can be scary against 5 though, but so many people (even the good shooters) are so slow on the first shot that if you are decent out of a holster it won't be that much more of a challenge.

[Irving]

Okay Johnny, here you go. I have to apologize for the camera angle on this video. I'll have to work on that in the future. You can see that I get flustered at the end there, and I just continue that in the next two rounds as well. Again, nice shooting. Until next time.
This was with the borrowed Glock 17.

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[Rooskibar03]

Good run. You wearing a Go Pro ?

[Irving]

Yeah, I've got to make sure the camera is pointing up more in the future. I want to post my other run from the 5 o'clock that was stupid close, but the video is the same with half the pins out of the frame.

[Irving]

Just because JohnnyEgo got such a kick out of it, here is the run against the brand new shooter. I didn't know who I was shooting against (until after) and was extremely nervous about going 3 vs 5 pins. This was the first round of the 5 pm match with my M&P 40c.

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[ray1970]

Nice videos. You going to bring that camera to the next IDPA match?

[Irving]

Now that I know how to use it, and got over feeling like a dummy for wearing it all day, I most likely will. You want to wear it a few times?

[ray1970]

You want to wear it a few times?

Oh, hell no. I prefer not to document my failures for the whole world to see. Lol.

[Irving]

You don't have to put them up on Youtube! You just keep them under your pillow and watch them over and over every night before bedtime. :D

[Great-Kazoo]

Oh, hell no. I prefer not to document my failures for the whole world to see. Lol.

I'd be leery of borrowing ANYTHING from Mr. Sweaty.

[Irving]

I make it a point not to lend anything that lives inside my belt.

[JohnnyEgo]

Thanks for posting that, man! It is both awesome and agonizing to watch. I was moving along at a good clip, then completely stopped shooting after I hit the last pin, without actually clearing it from the table. I'm more embarrassed of that then of losing.

I think I am going to have an 'Ineligible' patch made, and wear it with pride. The suppressed, mischievous side of me wants to make it to the finals next week, then shoot out the center post instead of the pins.

[Irving]

I've definitely tried shooting the center of a Texas star and just knocking the plates off before. It doesn't work. The problem is that they already know the level you shoot, so you couldn't empty a mag into the center support and then try to play dumb after. Haha.

[JohnnyEgo]

Going to try and make it tonight for both matches. Working out of south Denver this week, so it will be interesting to see how traffic plays out. Also going to try and bring a coworker / new shooter with me.

[DenverGP]

The whole DenverGP clan (me, wife and son) will be at the 7:00 match tonight.

[Irving]

I only usually go down when I'm not working, so I won't be the. You guys have fun.

[Rooskibar03]

Sadly I'll miss tonight. Two week in a row but I at least got
some practice in yesterday at Harris.


http://youtu.be/ju7-lHAfDxc

[Irving]

There is room in both matches tonight. Word is people are getting sick of the same people winning all the time. Anyone want to go down and try to shake things up with me tonight?

[sportbikeco]

There is room in both matches tonight. Word is people are getting sick of the same people winning all the time. Anyone want to go down and try to shake things up with me tonight?

I'm signed up.

[Musashi]

I am hoping for next week...

[Irving]

I'm signed up.

Alright, good enough for me. See you down there. Think I'll sign up for both.

EDIT: Signed up for both. See you down there.

[Irving]

sportbikeco came out and cleaned up the 5:00 match.
I shot embarrassingly poor at the 7:00, but sportbikeco was still winning when I left.

Congrats sportbikeco! Did you pull it off for the 7:00 as well?

[colorider]

Last night (5:00) was the first time shooting pins in about 2 months. there are a lot more good shooters then a few months ago. Got knocked on my 3rd match and I think it may have been Irving who eliminated me. Taller fellow w a go pro on his head ?
Nice fellow and had some laughs after he won as neither of us looked to see who we were shootng against. I'm the bald guy w the goatee.

[Irving]

Last night (5:00) was the first time shooting pins in about 2 months. there are a lot more good shooters then a few months ago. Got knocked on my 3rd match and I think it may have been Irving who eliminated me. Taller fellow w a go pro on his head ?
Nice fellow and had some laughs after he won as neither of us looked to see who we were shootng against. I'm the bald guy w the goatee.

That was me. Did you stay for the 7:00 as well? I'm working on getting a video up, but there are some things I need to edit out first.

[colorider]

Nice to shoot with ya ! I will introduce mysf next time. My name is Andy.
Didnt shoot at 7. I had to get home to the wife and kiddo.
Would love to see the videos.

[sneakerd]

Admittedly I kind of got bored with it a couple of months ago as well. I shot in 5 matches, won 3 and took 4th in the other 2. I guess it ran it's course with me.

[Irving]

There were a couple of USPSA guys there that were absolutely jaw droppingly fast.

[colorider]

Yes they were Irvimg. One dude just plowed the pins over after missing a few shots. Was a sight to see. However, they too choked at some point. That's what makes the pin shooting fun. Even the heroes crap the bed sometimes. Maybe see ya there next week. Sometimes the shooting is secondary to the comradrie and trash taking fun !

[Irving]

I won't be there next week. I usually only get to go to Bristlecone when I'm off work. I have this whole week off, so I was able to make it out.

I could easily see how sneakerd was getting bored (especially if winning). I get to go so rarely that that hasn't set in yet.

[Great-Kazoo]

There is room in both matches tonight. Word is people are getting sick of the same people winning all the time. Anyone want to go down and try to shake things up with me tonight?

When i'm feeling up to it and can grab a ride. I'll resolve that problem ;) Now that my LW 9mm barrel is back, maybe that might make the trip.

[Irving]

Alright, I'm tired of trying to edit this video. I'll just leave all the tags off of it.

Here is a free lesson in inconsistency. Round 3 was the best, but the rest of the time I was struggling to get my rhythm and go slow enough to pay attention to what I was doing.

Colorider, I'm not sure which round was against you, probably round 4. On Round 1 you can see me stop shooting. The trigger locked up. I think my thumb started to engage the safety.

Basically, all three rounds I won were because I got lucky.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvda-vZcy8k

[colorider]

Irving,
That was me on Round 3. I was on the right side when I lost to you. That was some fast shooting sir! Also happens to be one of my best shoots, but not good enough to beat ya!
Next time.!!!

[sportbikeco]

Centennial gun club is doing pin shoots now as well 5pm and 7pm on Tuesdays, might be checking these out. www.centennialgunclub.com/bowling-pin-match/

[Irving]

Irving,
That was me on Round 3. I was on the right side when I lost to you. That was some fast shooting sir! Also happens to be one of my best shoots, but not good enough to beat ya!
Next time.!!!

Oh man, that was one of those runs where I got lucky I hit every pin. I had to shoot perfect in order to have squeezed by you.

[Rooskibar03]

Guess I picked the wrong night to skip. Missed out on some fun.

[thermobollocks]

Centennial gun club is doing pin shoots now as well 5pm and 7pm on Tuesdays, might be checking these out. www.centennialgunclub.com/bowling-pin-match/ (http://www.centennialgunclub.com/bowling-pin-match/)

Dang, I might actually be able to amuse myself during the snowy months. Thanks for this.

[Rooskibar03]

Anyone shooting tomorrow night? I'll be there at 7.

[Irving]

I went ahead and signed up for 7pm. See you there.

[colorider]

Not going to make it this evening.

[Irving]

Nice to meet you tonight Rooski. Sorry I didn't have a reason to stay longer.

[sportbikeco]

centennial pin match has spots open still at 7pm

[Rooskibar03]

Nice to meet you tonight Rooski. Sorry I didn't have a reason to stay longer.

My night didn't end up much better. Good to meet you as well.

[sportbikeco]

Anyone headed out tonight?

[driver]

I'll be there

[Irving]

Won't be making it.

[driver]

It was nice to meet you last night Chris.
I plan on shooting both next week too.

[Squeeze]

I'm going to try and make it for the 5:00pm shoot this Monday. I've shot the match before (got 1st a couple of times) at the 7:00 match. Maybe see ya there. I usually wear the tan contractor hat with a "gunfighter strong" tab on the back.

[Lucky]

Real quick: is this just for .22's, or can I shoot my 9mm?

[Irving]

There is a .22 match on certain Wednesdays, otherwise no .22 allowed (unless you're 8 years old).

[Rooskibar03]

There is a .22 match on certain Wednesdays, otherwise no .22 allowed (unless you're 8 years old).

heck even that 10 year old moved up to a Glock 17 recently. 22 pins is last wends of month.

FYI if you plan on attending things sign up in advance. There has been a shift of late to an "I'll just show up" at the event and not bother registering. They really need to know how many people are coming for events. Steel match was canceled because only 1 person registered yet when asked Monday night a dozen + said they were planning to come.

I li asked them about adding the ability to sign up for these regular monthly events to the website instead of calling. I think it will help boost enrollment if you make it super simple to do so.

[Lucky]

Thanks!

[Rooskibar03]

They made an update to the game last week and I'm super pleased. Now if you are holster qualified @ Bristlecone you can draw from the holster and shoot your pins as opposed to starting in the compressed high ready.

Handicap still applies and you may be drawing against someone who isn't. Makes the game more fun, for me at least, and this is a welcome addition.

[Irving]

I thought they should do that as well.

[Lucky]

I'll be there tonight, for fun. 115 grain on a 9mm so I'll be happy if I at least knock some pins down! Wearing a maroon hoodie so feel free to introduce yourself.

[Lucky]

I re-read this whole thread before going and was under the impression if I didn't have 147 grain or hollow point I'd be screwed. Not the case. If you've been on the fence about checking it out, I'd say just sign up. So many skill levels, everyone was welcoming, fast paced, and it's super fun.

[Irving]

There is nothing wrong with 115 with solid hits, 124 and 147 just take them down a bit better, especially with flat points.

[Rooskibar03]

What Irving said. Put your shots where they need to be and a 22 will knock them over. The 124 and up just helps propel them off the table better. Nothing worse than a table full of pins laying on their side.

[Guylee]

I think I'll shoot the next one with my .460. Hopefully that will knock them over...

[funkymonkey1111]

stopped in to check out the 5pm match last night--looks like a blast--i hope to try it soon, but i may have to lobby for just shooting 1 pin on my first round