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BPTactical
05-30-2015, 17:25
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/2-shot-in-aurora-late-friday
AURORA, Colo. - Three suspected robbers were shot late Friday night in Aurora and one of them has died, police said Saturday.
It happened during an armed robbery attempt at an apartment complex at 431 S. Kalispell Way, near East Alameda Avenue, Aurora Police said.
Two of the gunshot victims were rushed to the hospital. One of them -- a juvenile suspect -- later died. The third robbery suspect walked into an area hospital with a gunshot wound to the shoulder, according to police. His injuries are non-life threatening and he is being held on un-related charges.
Single shooter engages and hit 3 separate targets, killing one.
Bailey Guns
05-30-2015, 17:28
With all the average Joe Citizens that carry guns these days it's getting to the point that trying to make a living robbing people is dangerous.
Aloha_Shooter
05-30-2015, 17:41
With all the average Joe Citizens that carry guns these days it's getting to the point that trying to make a living robbing people is dangerous.
Damn the luck. Guess the thugs will have to move to Chicago or Detroit or Baltimore or Ferguson ...
I guess this is blowing up on Facebook and anti-gun people are acting dumb about it.
BPTactical
05-30-2015, 18:17
I guess this is blowing up on Facebook and anti-gun people are acting dumb about it.
This is my surprised face:
Bailey Guns
05-30-2015, 18:19
I guess this is blowing up on Facebook and anti-gun people are acting dumb about it.
I'm not sure they're acting...
BushMasterBoy
05-30-2015, 19:05
Too bad all 3 didn't die...
I guess this is blowing up on Facebook and anti-gun people are acting dumb about it.
Suprisingly, there is mostly support for this guy with only a few negative comments against guns. And gun owners.
I'm with BMB, would have been great to see all 3 DRT (dead right there).
Great-Kazoo
05-30-2015, 21:36
Fortunately the story has been edited from it's original format. The revised one eliminates any mention of the White moving in guy shooting 3 black youths. The comments as usual bring out both sides of gun rights.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28220285/aurora-shooting-leaves-possible-three-injured-persons-1
Sounds like it worked the way it is supposed to... Imagine that.
With a little more training he could do better than 1/3 success rate.
With all the average Joe Citizens that carry guns these days it's getting to the point that trying to make a living robbing people is dangerous.
I thought that was the whole idea? ;)
Arapahoe County District Attorney George Brauchler is now looking at many possibilities.
"Who can legally possess firearms under this circumstance? If there was a concealed weapon, who had the right to have a concealed weapon and did they have a lawful permit?" Brauchler asked. "We're looking into all of that."
Typical political DA BS. As if the victim's gun was the problem here?!?
BPTactical
05-31-2015, 10:19
I thought that was the whole idea? ;)
Typical political DA BS. As if the victim's gun was the problem here?!?
Broeckler is pretty fair and pro 2A IIRC.
But I do agree, what if the guys moving in were taking in a box of possessions and a pistola is in the box? I fail to see where the intended victims are at fault here.
theGinsue
05-31-2015, 11:28
Just checked out the map associated with the article. This occurred very close to Buckley and to my company's facilities in Aurora (just a few blocks away).
I'm wondering if the intended victims are associated with the Base or one of the nearby defense companies. If so, and either way, it was definitely the wrong choice of victims to rob.
I wonder how much this quick buck is going to cost these 3 juveniles and their families. So far we're up to the cost of an ER visit for 2, hospitalization for 1, and the cost of a funeral for 1. Plus, for the 2 survivors there will be legal defense costs. Yeah, I can see how whatever the intended victims were carrying was so totally worth it; NOT.
Dumbasses will be dumbasses. Too bad their mommies & daddies never drilled into them that this sort of activity was wrong and that it could get you killed. I suspect though, the mommies & daddies will be exclaiming 'My baby didn't do nothing'. It seems to be the trend these days when an intended victim turns the tables and makes a culprit into the victim of their own stupidity. Wouldn't it be nice to see a parent/family member stand up and say "I tried to raise the boy right but he was just too damned stupid to listen; he got what he deserved. I want to apologize to the fine folks my child intended to do harm to."
I'm more concerned with what it will cost us the taxpayer to fund these idiots public defenders, the court costs and eventually jail time.
theGinsue
05-31-2015, 11:37
Amen.
SideShow Bob
05-31-2015, 14:04
And my neighbors think that I am crazy ( even more so ) when I have a pistol on my hip when mowing my lawn or duing other yard work.
Crap like this is exactly why I am planning my escape from Aurora. I know stuff like this can happen anywhere but what used to be nice areas of Aurora are becoming crime ridden ghettos full of didntdonuffins. This garbage is starting to become the norm, not the exception. If I didn't have family obligations trapping me here, I would have been gone already. Anyone contemplating moving to Aurora - Don't.
Honey Badger282.8
05-31-2015, 18:58
Crap like this is exactly why I am planning my escape from Aurora. I know stuff like this can happen anywhere but what used to be nice areas of Aurora are becoming crime ridden ghettos full of didntdonuffins. This garbage is starting to become the norm, not the exception. If I didn't have family obligations trapping me here, I would have been gone already. Anyone contemplating moving to Aurora - Don't.
I've only been back in the state for a few months but it seems to me that all the gentrification in Denver is forcing all of the riff-raff to Aurora.
I suspect members of the legal profession will be racing to represent the 'victims' in their pursuit of cash from the person who ended their aspiring music careers...
I've only been back in the state for a few months but it seems to me that all the gentrification in Denver is forcing all of the riff-raff to Aurora.
The riff raff were always here but they lived elsewhere. My theory is the housing crash in 2008/2009 put tons of foreclosures on the market and they became rentals. That, along with the bad economy, drove down rents and the Free Shit Army could use their housing vouchers to live in areas previously beyond their means. At least that's when I noticed things going south in my area. One can only hope the rising house prices will start reversing the downward spiral but I don't plan to stay regardless.
Just checked out the map associated with the article. This occurred very close to Buckley and to my company's facilities in Aurora (just a few blocks away).
I'm wondering if the intended victims are associated with the Base or one of the nearby defense companies. If so, and either way, it was definitely the wrong choice of victims to rob.
I wonder how much this quick buck is going to cost these 3 juveniles and their families. So far we're up to the cost of an ER visit for 2, hospitalization for 1, and the cost of a funeral for 1. Plus, for the 2 survivors there will be legal defense costs. Yeah, I can see how whatever the intended victims were carrying was so totally worth it; NOT.
Dumbasses will be dumbasses. Too bad their mommies & daddies never drilled into them that this sort of activity was wrong and that it could get you killed. I suspect though, the mommies & daddies will be exclaiming 'My baby didn't do nothing'. It seems to be the trend these days when an intended victim turns the tables and makes a culprit into the victim of their own stupidity. Wouldn't it be nice to see a parent/family member stand up and say "I tried to raise the boy right but he was just too damned stupid to listen; he got what he deserved. I want to apologize to the fine folks my child intended to do harm to."
It's also just a few blocks from the Aurora PD headquarters (Chambers and Alameda). I'm hoping A) that this is a good shoot, and B) that these thugs are held up as an example of bad outcomes from bad decisions. Maybe other misled youths will reconsider their choices if this is heavily publicized. Probably not, but one can hope. And carry.
Honey Badger282.8
05-31-2015, 20:39
What I've noticed is that parts of Denver that used to be terrible in 2007 are now really nice and expensive while parts of Aurora that used to be nice no longer are. Case in point: North Denver, I had no idea what area people were talking about when they said the Highlands were nice. I thought they were talking about Highlands Ranch.
wctriumph
06-01-2015, 08:15
I lived in Aurora in 1999 and our house was one block from the back gate of Buckley Air National Guard base. When it became an Air Force base I told the wife we were moving because the area was going to turn to shit from the transition to a full time military base. We moved to Ft. Collins and it did not take long for Aurora to become a bad place to be, especially near the base. I was through there last October and where we lived has just gone down hill.
Too bad, it was a nice place.
Aurora was nice and affordable which was good for middle class families. All of that changed in the 90s IMHO and that is when our family left.
kidicarus13
06-01-2015, 08:57
When it became an Air Force base I told the wife we were moving because the area was going to turn to shit from the transition to a full time military base. We moved to Ft. Collins and it did not take long for Aurora to become a bad place to be, especially near the base.
When I lived in the Springs I was surprised how bad some areas around Ft Carson were. It was an eye opening experience. Before living there I assumed "military town" = good, but now I am wiser.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/05/31/da-on-aurora-triple-shooting-statutorily-codified-self-defense/
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https://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/kalispell-shooting-10pkg-tr.jpg?w=420&h=236
Aurora Police Chief Nick Metz and District Attorney George Brauchler (credit: CBS)
Brauchler says Colorado’s self-defense law allows the use of deadly force.
“If you have a weapon on you and you are placed in imminent fear of serious bodily injury or death, you are entitled to defend yourself,” Brauchler said.
Brauchler noted it’s not a case of Make My Day because the shooting didn't happen inside a residence.
“This is straight up regular common sense and statutorily codified self-defense,” he said.
Police were working to identify the three robbery suspect and want the public’s help. They are not ready to identify the man who shot them.
^^
They need to pin a medal on this guy.
I thought of all the three guys that one died and two went to the hospital. Why don't they know who they are?
BPTactical
06-02-2015, 04:49
I thought of all the three guys that one died and two went to the hospital. Why don't they know who they are?
Juvenile aspiring rap stars.
Dey gots rights yo....
Good shoot
Aloha_Shooter
06-02-2015, 06:53
I thought of all the three guys that one died and two went to the hospital. Why don't they know who they are?
They may have refused to identify themselves.
They may not know who they are or who their parents are, they could be children of the streets.
SuperiorDG
06-02-2015, 13:06
Double tap.
AURORA, Colo. — The juvenile who was shot and killed by a mover during an attempted robbery on Friday night in Aurora was identified Tuesday.
Dewayne Lamonte Quenvell Brown, 15, died of two gunshot wounds and his death was classified as a homicide by the Arapahoe County Coroner’s Office.
The Aurora Police Department said (http://kdvr.com/2015/05/30/1-dead-2-injured-after-allegedly-trying-to-rob-movers-in-aurora/)three men were moving items into a unit in an apartment building in the 400 block of South Kalispell Way about 11 p.m. Friday when they were approached by three teenage males in the foyer who attempted to rob them at gunpoint.
“Two of the movers started to hand over their money,” Aurora Police Chief Nick Metz said. “The third mover who was fearing for his safety and the safety of his friends, pulled his weapon out.”
All three suspects were hit with gunfire. One was in serious condition and the second was in fair condition with nonlife-threatening injuries. Brown died en route to the hospital.
The other two suspects have not been identified and police said the three movers have cooperated in the investigation.
http://kdvr.com/2015/06/02/teenager-identified-in-fatal-attempted-robbery-in-aurora/
theGinsue
06-02-2015, 20:28
Dewayne Lamonte Quenvell Brown, 15, died of two gunshot wounds and his death was classified as a homicide by the Arapahoe County Coroner’s Office.
Before anyone who is not aware gets their nickers in a twist over this statement, I'll add clarification:
Homicide is a legal term for any killing of a human being by another human being. Homicide itself is not necessarily a crime–some homicides are legal, such as a justifiable killing of a suspect by the police or a killing in self-defense–but unlawful homicides are classified as crimes like murder and manslaughter.
The common law definition of murder is the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought. Malice aforethought is the term of art that is sometimes colloquially referred to as "premeditation."
Honey Badger282.8
06-02-2015, 20:47
Doesn't Colorado have a law that allows murder charges to be levied against assailants when someone is killed in the commission of a crime? Hopefully the surviving scumbags will face those charges.
I didn't see this posted yet
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/05/31/da-on-aurora-triple-shooting-statutorily-codified-self-defense/
DA declines to press charges:
The shooter had a concealed to carry weapons permit and put the gun down when he saw officers arriving.Brauchler says Colorado’s self-defense law allows the use of deadly force.
“If you have a weapon on you and you are placed in imminent fear of serious bodily injury or death, you are entitled to defend yourself,” Brauchler said.
Brauchler noted it’s not a case of Make My Day because the shooting didn’t happen inside a residence.
“This is straight up regular common sense and statutorily codified self-defense,” he said.
BPTactical
06-02-2015, 21:29
Doesn't Colorado have a law that allows murder charges to be levied against assailants when someone is killed in the commission of a crime? Hopefully the surviving scumbags will face those charges.
I believe this is true.
A couple of guys I knew in high school were drunk one night and they wanted more booze. One broke into a house to get more and the homeowner confronted him. The guy beat the hell out of the homeowner with a frying pan and damn near killed him. Burglary, ADW and some other charges.
The other guy was waiting outside in the car and faced the same charges.
Lots of questions in the thread answered if you read the linked article I posted.
[facepalm]
Lots of questions in the thread answered if you read the linked article I posted.
[facepalm]
Can someone post a link to the article that brutal posted please?
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/148873-Interesting-how-this-will-play-out?p=1881086&viewfull=1#post1881086
gnihcraes
06-03-2015, 08:17
photos from facebook page apparently, looks like he's innocent.
http://www.westword.com/news/dewayne-brown-15-idd-as-alleged-teen-robber-slain-by-aurora-mover-6763790 (http://www.westword.com/news/dewayne-brown-15-idd-as-alleged-teen-robber-slain-by-aurora-mover-6763790)
kidicarus13
06-03-2015, 09:37
looks like he's innocent.
Based on the photo I would have to agree.
Two blocks from the Aurora City/PD complex.
Do you carry at home?
68Charger
06-03-2015, 11:14
photos from facebook page apparently, looks like he's innocent.
Technically he is, until proven guilty.. and the same applies to the "third mover" who allegedly shot the 3 robbery suspects...
I'll also note that all 3 suspects were stuck with bullets, pistols just aren't as lethal as the movies make them out to be... I think the shooter did well- made sure the suspects needed medical attention so they couldn't just flee and disappear.
And more to the point- he stopped the threat to his life.
SuperiorDG
06-03-2015, 11:31
I wonder if the shooter had trained on this drill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHv_jhMOR64
Looks like a drill we should all work on.
Springfield XD, eh? I was guesstimating a Glock .40.
BPTactical
06-03-2015, 19:38
Like I said earlier, aspiring rapper taken in his prime......
The whole "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" thing.
Zero shits given.
buffalobo
06-03-2015, 22:07
Wonder how many bad guys have to be deceased for the rest to figure it out?
mcantar18c
06-03-2015, 22:42
Wonder how many bad guys have to be deceased for the rest to figure it out?
All of them.
Great-Kazoo
06-04-2015, 02:30
Wonder how many bad guys have to be deceased for the rest to figure it out?
They never will. As long as .gov insist on pushing for stricter common sense gun laws, with a Million sensible everyday moms blathering the same shit. Skels like this "child with aspirations of going to college" know they're not the ones the .gov wants to stop from acquiring guns.
Besides America's too busy gushing over Bruce Gender to care about anything other than his soon to be reality show. Hell even that jv terror group's been pushed back towards the obit page. The media plays the game very well.
If they figure it out, then they're not really "bad guys" any more, right? [LOL]
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