Rand Paul: all alone, fighting for our constitutional rights, again.

[HoneyBadger]

Anyone else paying attention to Patriot Act Sunset? You should be.

http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/



Sunday, I will continue my fight to end the illegal collection of American phone records. The Second Appeals court has ruled the NSA’s bulk collection of phone records illegal. We should not be debating modifying an illegal program. We should simply end this illegal program.


How will we defend ourselves if the Patriot Act expires? Well, perhaps we could just rely on the Constitution and demonstrate exactly how traditional judicial warrants can gather all the info we need—and how bulk collection really hasn’t worked.

...continued at the link

[Great-Kazoo]

It's big business for most if not all legislatures to not keep it going. Interesting how The CIC says it must be in allowed to continue. ANOTHER one of his "election promises" that not only didn't materialize, but once again ignored by the media.

[Ah Pook]

Didn't Shrub extend it for national security? Follow the money.

[sniper7]

Hope he gets a lot of support

[milwaukeeshaker]

I will support his bid for POTUS. Best candidate so far.

[theGinsue]

It's big business for most if not all legislatures to not keep it going. Interesting how The CIC says it must be in allowed to continue. ANOTHER one of his "election promises" that not only didn't materialize, but once again ignored by the media.

Agreed. The Patriot Act is anything but patriotic as it completely violates the Constitution and the intent of our Founding Fathers to keep the .gov's actions against citizens reined in. Any elected member who supports this legislation is nothing less than a traitor to our country and the citizens they've sworn an oath to represent.

I don't feel even the remotest bit safer since this legislation went into effect. In fact, while I have nothing to hide, I feel less safe at the hands of our own government than I ever did from any non-.gov individual or entity who wish to do us harm.

There is an established legal process that is proven effective yet it was deemed too burdensome to effectively execute by those who wield power. Silly little inconsequential things like citizens Constitutional rights kept getting in the way. It is long overdue to get rid of this legislation and get back to doing things the right way.

I applaud Rand Paul for his efforts and denounce those who resist his efforts to eliminate this legislation. Remember Mr. Reagan's most eloquently stated '9 Most Terrifying Words In The English Language':

xhYJS80MgYA

[Hound]

+1 on Ginsues post

[roberth]

:)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/01/senate-returns-to-vote-on-extending-us-surveillance-programs-with-deadline-near/


The National Security Agency's ability to collect the phone records of millions of Americans in bulk expired late Sunday after the Senate failed to strike a deal before the midnight deadline.
However, that program, as well as several other post-9/11 counterterrorism measures, were likely to be revived in some form in the coming days after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. reluctantly embraced a House-passed bill that would extend the anti-terror provisions, while also remaking the bulk collection program.

The fixed version courtesy of me. :):)


The 2nd Chief Directorate of the Organ for State Security's ability to collect the phone records of millions of innocent Americans in bulk with expired late Sunday after the Senate failed to strike a deal before the midnight deadline. However, that program, as well as several other post-9/11 unconstitutional data collection measures, were likely to be revived in some form in the coming days after Politburo Leader Mitch McConnell, D-Ky. reluctantly embraced a non-representative House-passed bill that would extend the anti-terror provisions, while also ensuring the bulk collection program.

John McCain, who cannot stop shitting on his heroics during the Vietnam War, should shut his fucking claptrap.

[wctriumph]

TEA


III

[two shoes]

John McCain, who cannot stop shitting on his heroics during the Vietnam War, should shut his fucking claptrap.

He is a mouth-piece puppet of the State...

[milwaukeeshaker]

Other POW'S that were with him in the camp say he was a snitch POS.



He is a mouth-piece puppet of the State...

[roberth]

Sooooooooooooo

We're a couple days in and all reports so far state that the illegal data collection did NOTHING....NOTHING about domestic terrorism.

The NSA didn't catch the shoe bomber, the Boston Marathon bombers, the mohammed drawing contest attackers, or anyone else or that matter.

The NSA did manage to capture millions of phone calls discussing recipes for apple pie, DWTS, Miley Cyrus, and the latest video game.

End result, the NSA joins the TSA/DHS in their utter failure to do anything of any import or good for the American citizen, unless one considers harassment and intimidation to be good.




Please now, may we reduce the size of the federal government, since it is proven unwieldy, unworthy and unwanted.

[Singlestack]

Even discounting the constitutional aspects (which of course we should never do), the Patriot Act has been a failure as far as catching terrorists. One thing that WOULD help is if the feds followed up on information they already had, such as the 9/11 hijackers and flight school and the Tsarnaevs in Boston.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/21/fbi-admits-patriot-act-snooping-powers-didnt-crack/?page=all

FBI admits no major cases cracked with Patriot Act snooping powers
That's in contrast to what agents and attorneys said about the powers, describing it as a "valuable" for investigations.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation could not pinpoint a single notable case that was solved using far-reaching surveillance powers under the Patriot Act, findings from a new report say.
In a lengthy 77-page report (https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2015/o1505.pdf#page=1) by the Justice Department's inspector general Michael Horowitz, agents could not recall a single memorable or major case during a two-year period that was cracked using the powers, which have been increasingly used to spy on Americans with no connection to criminality."The agents we interviewed did not identify any major case developments that resulted from the records obtained in response to Section 215 orders," the report said in its conclusion, "but told us that the authority is valuable when it is the only means to obtain certain information."
Such information, though not specified, would help agents to other leads, and corroborate other information, the report says.
Section 215 of the Patriot Act allows the government to secretly demand any "tangible things" from a business on its customers, from credit card and banking records to phone records. The most notable case forced Verizon to continuallyhand over its entire store of customer data (http://www.zdnet.com/article/verizon-records-vacuumed-up-by-nsa-under-top-secret-patriot-act-order/).
In a five-year period ending 2009, the FBI had more than doubled the number of bulk surveillance orders under its belt, despite no evidence suggesting the collection was working.
Provisions in the Patriot Act expire on June 1, but Congress has just a few hours -- at the time of writing -- to pass an extension, or let it sunset.


We reached out to the FBI but did not hear back at the time of writing.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Other POW'S that were with him in the camp say he was a snitch POS.

I have a lot of disagreement with Senator McCain but please cite references for this. The only accounts I've ever seen or heard from other POWs in his camp were pretty glowing.

[milwaukeeshaker]

Just type in "John Mcain hated by fellow prisoners" on Google and read the results.

[Aloha_Shooter]

No, you made the assertion, I want YOU to produce the links to accounts you consider reliable. I've spoken to Vietnam POWs directly; I'm willing to assume they didn't want to speak badly of a fellow POW in the 1980s or 1990s and perhaps opened up recently but you need to provide the support to your claim.

[BushMasterBoy]

Now we know how the NSA covers up UFO sighting and landings.

[hatidua]

I will support his bid for POTUS. Best candidate so far.

The mere fact that I like him pretty much means he'll fade into obscurity.

[Hound]

And I thought I was the only one?


The mere fact that I like him pretty much means he'll fade into obscurity.

[Great-Kazoo]

The mere fact that I like him pretty much means he'll fade into obscurity.


And I thought I was the only one?

Oh the media will find something to smear him with. After they get done with Rubio & Cruz.

[milwaukeeshaker]

I wouldn't know how to post links if I wanted to. Sorry, but I'M not going to do it.


No, you made the assertion, I want YOU to produce the links to accounts you consider reliable. I've spoken to Vietnam POWs directly; I'm willing to assume they didn't want to speak badly of a fellow POW in the 1980s or 1990s and perhaps opened up recently but you need to provide the support to your claim.