View Full Version : Kawasaki H2R against 3 supercars!!
sellersm
06-02-2015, 12:08
Interesting results, discuss/disparage at your leisure...
The new "stock" Kawasaki H2R against McLaren, Bugatti Veyron and Nissan GT-R: all modified cars. This article covers the half-mile trap speed/race and top speeds. I thought the results were a bit surprising...
http://www.sportrider.com/videos-kawasaki-ninja-h2r-goes-head-to-head-against-three-supercars
Looks like it is time for a new bike...nah I'll keep this body together for a couple of more years although I do miss my Suzuki TLR at times.
Bailey Guns
06-02-2015, 12:41
No thanks. That's what I like about my Harley. It'll barely go fast enough to kill me.
islandermyk
06-02-2015, 22:06
No thanks... If I wanted to just go straight and fast.. I'd just turbo out a Kawi ZX or a Busa for less...
I could always glue on some wings for down force on it if need be [Coffee]
Persocon
06-02-2015, 22:47
lol "uncrate and play" while gt-rs have reliability issues, yea these 1500hp race gas gt-rs can't run all day like the H2R, pretty awesome, on pump gas too
cfortune
06-02-2015, 22:50
I see some guy with a GT-R on my way home from work pretty often. I knew those things moved but didn't know you could get one moving that fast.
That bike is freaking insane. Has to be a pretty wild feeling doing 200+ on two wheels.
ZERO THEORY
06-02-2015, 22:56
Pump gas, factory built and it still necked the GT-R. The Bugatti and the McLaren never stood a chance. If you want to go fast, bikes>>>cars. Track, strip, you name it.
mcantar18c
06-02-2015, 23:03
Well shit, now my bike isn't cool anymore. I need that one.
KestrelBike
06-03-2015, 06:34
That bike is freaking insane. Has to be a pretty wild feeling doing 200+ on two wheels.
Hector Barbera was clocked going down the straight at Mugello, Italy (motogp) at 217mph last weekend, breaking the race speed record apparently.
Pump gas, factory built and it still necked the GT-R. The Bugatti and the McLaren never stood a chance. If you want to go fast, bikes>>>cars. Track, strip, you name it.
[hahhah-no]
http://www.bmeltd.com/09images/681.01.jpg
ZERO THEORY
06-03-2015, 10:08
[hahhah-no]
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Well, I don' think many of us can afford a top fuel dragster, so I'll stand by my point.
Well, I don' think many of us can afford a top fuel dragster, so I'll stand by my point.
Yeah, the gas mileage on those things sucks(12+ gallons of 95% nitromethane in 1000 feet and about 4 seconds).
The bike has the edge in acceleration, the cars will always win out in top speed because of aerodynamics. On a road course, the bikes have the advantage in acceleration and line choice, the cars have the advantage in cornering force and braking ability, so it depends on the track who wins there. On most tracks, cars hold the outright lap record.
Well, I don' think many of us can afford a top fuel dragster, so I'll stand by my point.
Not to mention only being able to brag about having a trailer queen you gotta haul everywhere!
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
ZERO THEORY
06-03-2015, 12:12
Yeah, the gas mileage on those things sucks(12+ gallons of 95% nitromethane in 1000 feet and about 4 seconds).
The bike has the edge in acceleration, the cars will always win out in top speed because of aerodynamics. On a road course, the bikes have the advantage in acceleration and line choice, the cars have the advantage in cornering force and braking ability, so it depends on the track who wins there. On most tracks, cars hold the outright lap record.
Actually you've got a great point there. I do believe that F1 cars will outrun GP bikes in circuits handily. But I can't afford an F1 car, either.
I think for your average American, a bike is the best and most efficient way to go fast, hands-down. A $10K used bike with $15K worth of work will blow the doors off of $75K dream machines. That's a hell of a lotta bang for your buck, and it costs less than the Honda your wife's been bugging you about.
Definitely, the bikes offer the most bang for the buck. The least expensive car in this test(the Mclaren) costs 6 times what the Kawasaki does.
I paid $4000 for a CBR 600RR a couple years back. 10.68 quarter mile time as per some online articles. That's sea level and a pro rider but I think that will give most cars a run for their money that cost a lot more.
You really can't beat the bang for your buck with a motorcycle.
KestrelBike
06-03-2015, 15:38
Actually you've got a great point there. I do believe that F1 cars will outrun GP bikes in circuits handily. But I can't afford an F1 car, either.
I think for your average American, a bike is the best and most efficient way to go fast, hands-down. A $10K used bike with $15K worth of work will blow the doors off of $75K dream machines. That's a hell of a lotta bang for your buck, and it costs less than the Honda your wife's been bugging you about.
I paid $4000 for a CBR 600RR a couple years back. 10.68 quarter mile time as per some online articles. That's sea level and a pro rider but I think that will give most cars a run for their money that cost a lot more.
You really can't beat the bang for your buck with a motorcycle.
Exactly. Growing up and in high school, I always thought how cool it'd be to own a porsche and be able to go fast. Then in my mid 20's, I got my first bike (GSX-R600) and then a couple years later got my all-time fav, '08 ZX-10R. The last was brand new $9,909. Since then, although I no longer have the bike, I've never been interested in throwing more than $25k at a car, and that money's for safety, not speed.
Well, I don' think many of us can afford a top fuel dragster, so I'll stand by my point.
Track, strip, I named it. Your point is still invalid as far as strip goes. So what it runs on pump, where will it be when it rains or snows?? Same place as the dragster. Many of us can't afford that particular bike...
Honestly, the performance of the H2R is not that impressive, especially since a well tuned BMW S1000R can make in the neighborhood of 210 rear wheel horsepower, naturally aspirated, and weighs about 75 lbs less. For less than half the price. A Stock Hayabusa with a pipe and fuel tuning will run over 200 mph with a skilled rider and some regearing, for under $15K
I just don't see $50k worth of bike there.
nogaroheli
06-03-2015, 20:46
A buddy of mine has a 1100 hp GT-R and it's incredible. I've had liter bikes that were incredible as well. In my older age it's surprisingly relaxing to hammer the throttle in a car that fast that won't loop, gets traction and throws down amazing times- but that Kawi tuned with a smaller pulley still makes my tingly thinking about it. The fact that two of us can ride in the GT-R non butt-to-nut and lay down good times is pretty sweet.
wctriumph
06-05-2015, 01:21
I just rode a 2015 BMW S1000RR the other day and it is way quicker and faster than I was ready for, it hit 140 mph in 4th gear on the frontage road and I was not even near redline. The power is awesome and this is a street bike that is very easy to ride. We have a guy we support that races one and it is just about unbelievable.
The older I get the faster I was. I have been over 180 mph on a motorcycle before on a closed circuit but these new bikes are faster than I ever was. And the BMW is about $14K.
Aloha_Shooter
06-05-2015, 07:39
... but I can drink coffee and listen to music while going fast in my car ...
wctriumph
06-05-2015, 11:21
... but I can drink coffee and listen to music while going fast in my car ...
Ah Haa, now we know who that guy is!
Stay safe out there guys and watch out for the coffee drinker with the music blaring!
[Coffee]
I'm pretty sure I would get overly confident too soon and kill myself on a bike like that. Incredible.
I guess I don't get it. Yeah, a bike is faster than a car. It weighs way less and you can still put a good sized engine on it, so why should anyone be surprised? The car has better safety, can comfortably carry more passengers. You strip down a car to something that doesn't need those things and you get a bike. Of course it will be faster. And it damn well better be cheaper otherwise what's the point?
KestrelBike
06-05-2015, 16:38
I guess I don't get it. Yeah, a bike is faster than a car. It weighs way less and you can still put a good sized engine on it, so why should anyone be surprised? The car has better safety, can comfortably carry more passengers. You strip down a car to something that doesn't need those things and you get a bike. Of course it will be faster. And it damn well better be cheaper otherwise what's the point?
^^^^ drives the minivan
Persocon
06-06-2015, 01:09
GT-R 2,000hp @55lbs of boost. This run at @50lbs, 1/4mile 7.49 @ 189mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyFZhHDW1os
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