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XC700116
06-03-2015, 12:59
Well, I just went into the garage and found that it was broken into last night at some point while I was sleeping, Theives stole my IR die grinder and Impact gun, My Lincoln 110 V wire feed welder, and my hunting frame pack that had 6 Steel Targets (AA targets style), brackets and straps in it. ie they carried off some HEAVY stuff, and didn't touch a few way more valuable and easy to carry things in the garage.
Well hopefully they drop the heavy things on their feet! Fuckers
Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.
I had a friend doing landscaping in Greeley lose his job trailer and Rhino to thieves in the last couple weeks. Took it right off of the jobsite. There's been a rash of thefts going on here on the western slope. The bank caught the thieves cashing checks at their counter on video but the cops wont do anything because they cant make out a check in their hand. Video of the suspects at the counter the very time the checks were cashed and that isn't enough evidence. Just bs.
BushMasterBoy
06-03-2015, 13:38
You have to have alarm system, video surveillance and firearms these days.
68Charger
06-03-2015, 13:39
Is it just me, or has the level and volume of thievery gone up since the legalization of recreational Marijuana?
I know the pain, they got me back in January, then a month and a half later tried to get in the truck in the middle of the night. It's a shitty feeling. It sucks but it could have always been worse. Just curious, how did they get it to the garage? After the break in at my house I started looking at other access points into the house and the cheap wood door jam from the back yard into the garage looked like it needed to be reinforced, and better locks and a bar installed.
XC700116
06-03-2015, 13:48
You have to have alarm system, video surveillance and firearms these days.
2 out of 3 aint bad.....
The alarm system, while a great system, doesn't do much when you're sleeping and don't hear the door chime, and don't have it armed because you are home [Mad]
It's just a kick in the nuts to know someone was in my garage while I was sleeping, and worse what would have happened/what I'd have done had I woken up and caught them.
68Charger
06-03-2015, 13:49
You have to have alarm system, video surveillance and firearms these days.
And the knowledge that you can't shoot somebody just because they're stealing your stuff... you have to be in fear for your life or the lives of others.
I don't want to see someone go to prison over one of these low-life scum...
XC700116
06-03-2015, 13:57
I know the pain, they got me back in January, then a month and a half later tried to get in the truck in the middle of the night. It's a shitty feeling. It sucks but it could have always been worse. Just curious, how did they get it to the garage? After the break in at my house I started looking at other access points into the house and the cheap wood door jam from the back yard into the garage looked like it needed to be reinforced, and better locks and a bar installed.
I know they came in through the back access door to the garage, I either left it unlocked, or they jimmied it open somehow, I did have to fiddle with the bottom of the door jam to get it to close afterwards so I'm not certain how, although I tend to think I must have left it unlocked.
The officer that took the report also mentioned that there was another garage broken into Saturday night so it's a bit of a pattern in town starting I think. Big red flag to me is what they didn't take. There was a lot of stuff in there that was valuable that went untouched, yet they were fairly selective in what they did take. It's weird, but still makes me think, petty theft grab and go, they had to have had a vehicle parked in the alley though or they were highly motivated, that pack full of targets wasn't exactly light, neither is the welder.
I know they came in through the back access door to the garage, I either left it unlocked, or they jimmied it open somehow, I did have to fiddle with the bottom of the door jam to get it to close afterwards so I'm not certain how, although I tend to think I must have left it unlocked.
The officer that took the report also mentioned that there was another garage broken into Saturday night so it's a bit of a pattern in town starting I think. Big red flag to me is what they didn't take. There was a lot of stuff in there that was valuable that went untouched, yet they were fairly selective in what they did take. It's weird, but still makes me think, petty theft grab and go, they had to have had a vehicle parked in the alley though or they were highly motivated, that pack full of targets wasn't exactly light, neither is the welder.
they did the same thing at my place, left way more valuable bigger items and only took what they could carry without looking to obvious. They hit my house in the middle of the day.
And the knowledge that you can't shoot somebody just because they're stealing your stuff... you have to be in fear for your life or the lives of others.
I don't want to see someone go to prison over one of these low-life scum...
when it is a home invasion, you only have to believe that they may use physical force, any physical force, then you are justified in using any and all means to stop the threat.
18-1-704.5 Use Of Deadly Physical Force Against An Intruder ("Make My Day Law")
1. The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado have a
right to expect absolute
safety within their own homes.
2. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 18-1-704, any occupant of a dwelling is
justified in using any
degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person
when that other person has
made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, and when the occupant has a reasonable
belief that such other
person has committed a crime in the dwelling in addition to the uninvited entry, or is
committing or intends
to commit a crime against a person or property in addition to the uninvited entry,
and when the occupant
reasonably believes that such other person might use any physical force, no matter
how slight, against any
occupant.
3. Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical
Yeah, I think it's different when they're in your home versus out front in your vehicle. If they're rummaging in your car, you can't use deadly force. I'd assume the same laws may apply if they were in a detached garage/shed since you have to leave your home to confront them.
BushMasterBoy
06-03-2015, 14:07
You are dead to rights to shoot an intruder. And yes the alarm is armed when I sleep...especially when I sleep.
68Charger
06-03-2015, 14:19
You are dead to rights to shoot an intruder. And yes the alarm is armed when I sleep...especially when I sleep.
If they're in your house I'll agree- garage is a grey area... take shots at them as they're driving away with your stuff and you're going to jail.
Just want to help people understand what can get them into trouble... it sucks if they get your stuff, but if they get your liberty as well because you're in prison...
Now if you live out in the country like I do, the triple S rule could happen (which is partially why there aren't many thefts out here, besides it being a helluva commute)
Although I don't really think of Milliken as a sprawling metropolis, either...
Rooskibar03
06-03-2015, 14:22
This is simply a case of undocumented borrowing. Nothing illegal has taken place.
XC700116
06-03-2015, 14:41
Well, as I said, as much as my vengeful side would have liked to catch them in the act, I'm glad I didn't. I don't want to have to make that choice in a split second if I don't get forced into it.
That said, I have good insurance, and I've learned a couple things, I'll be doing some upgrades to the doors to prevent it happening again easily, and the alarm system will get armed anytime I'm not both in the house AND awake.
While I'm not happy about it, I'm not going to let it ruin my week/weekend/life, I refuse to live in fear but I will take some additional steps too.
BTW if you guys see any Lincoln 110V wire feed welders, Snap on 12/24V booster packs, Camo frame packs and AA targets, or IR 90° die grinders or 1/2" impacts pop up on CL listed together, drop me a message.
Great-Kazoo
06-03-2015, 14:58
Well, as I said, as much as my vengeful side would have liked to catch them in the act, I'm glad I didn't. I don't want to have to make that choice in a split second if I don't get forced into it.
That said, I have good insurance, and I've learned a couple things, I'll be doing some upgrades to the doors to prevent it happening again easily, and the alarm system will get armed anytime I'm not both in the house AND awake.
While I'm not happy about it, I'm not going to let it ruin my week/weekend/life, I refuse to live in fear but I will take some additional steps too.
BTW if you guys see any Lincoln 110V wire feed welders, Snap on 12/24V booster packs, Camo frame packs and AA targets, or IR 90° die grinders or 1/2" impacts pop up on CL listed together, drop me a message.
Nothing on CL as of 14:55
I have a chop saw and welder for fabbing up some window guards. Drop me a line when you have time. I have plenty of rebar sitting here.
XC700116
06-03-2015, 15:13
Thanks Jim, as soon as the ins claim comes through I'll have a welder again, and they didn't get my chop saw so that's a good thing, I'll be doing a few things to upgrade security in the coming days though.
I'll keep my eyes on CL but the insurance company is being helpful and I have replacement cost coverage on everything so I should be good to go.
Sorry to hear about the worthless fucks that stole from you. Hopefully they go blind with that welder.
i now close the garage even when I am just mowing the back yard which takes about 10 minutes. I just don't trust people any more.
If they're in your house I'll agree- garage is a grey area... take shots at them as they're driving away with your stuff and you're going to jail.
Just want to help people understand what can get them into trouble... it sucks if they get your stuff, but if they get your liberty as well because you're in prison...
Now if you live out in the country like I do, the triple S rule could happen (which is partially why there aren't many thefts out here, besides it being a helluva commute)
Although I don't really think of Milliken as a sprawling metropolis, either...
That's why you need a BIG dog that just happens to get loose.
68Charger
06-03-2015, 15:38
That's why you need a BIG dog that just happens to get loose.
Cross between a St. Bernard and an American Bulldog- check...
Also helps to know a pig farmer I'm told...
My neighbor had some shit bag jimmy a sliding window in his shop in March and they took a bunch of hand tools and small power-tools. I was out of town and had my neighbor retrieve a Amazon package from place that contained "2" 18V DeWalt drills ($475.00). The shit bag took these too. LC Sheriff came out made a report but without S/N's or photos of a personal marking on the tools there's no traceability and the likelihood of someone getting busted for the theft after the fact is slim at best. I called Amazon and they couldn't give me a S/N of the drills so I was out $475
My neighbor put up expanded melt on all the windows in his shop and last month the shit bags came back found the windows had been fortified and they broke the door knob off to gain entry. Apparently they were interrupted the second time and nothing appeared to be taken.
Thieves and sexual offenders are one in the same IMO.
Check with your neighbors, some may have exterior cameras. If so, you never know what they may have gotten a glimpse of that could be helpful in finding these turds.
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sabot_round
06-03-2015, 16:58
Sorry to hear about the break in, buddy. I hope they catch those fuckers and fry them!!
T. B. Turner
06-03-2015, 17:54
Thought I would post this in case anyone didn't already know. Overhead doors are easily broken into. Here is one of several videos on you tube showing how it can be done and prevented. If you want to just get to the point watch from 2:15 - 2:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXuifg1x_-Y
so how does one beef up door knob or deadbolt entry doors?
Aloha_Shooter
06-03-2015, 18:19
Is it just me, or has the level and volume of thievery gone up since the legalization of recreational Marijuana?
It must be just you. The consensus has ruled that alcohol and tobacco are far worse than marijuana. Stop repressing the 99% with your dead white male Christian attitudes!
[Bang]
so how does one beef up door knob or deadbolt entry doors?
Entry knobs are useless. I can get into one with a screwdriver or gerber. Deadbolt like the discontinued titan brand are pretty good for the price. an outward swing security door, 3" deck screws in the strike plates and hinges, new deadbolts and a driveway alarm is what I'd advise.
Less than $200 if you shop
BPTactical
06-03-2015, 19:30
One the "Make my Day" law: as it was explained to me- if the garage is an attached garage it is consider part of the dwelling and you are justified using whatever means.
If detached it is not part of the dwelling and unless you are in it at the time of the break in, your SOL.
Sorry for your loss OP and yes, I strongly believe making dope legal here has been a catalyst for the increase in property crimes.
It has also effed the real estate market.
Stu told me today at work sorry to hear bud
SouthPaw
06-03-2015, 20:31
I'm in your neck of the woods so I will keep my eye out. Sorry to hear that!
It's possible they spotted the items that they specifically wanted at some point when the garage door was open and targeted only those items rather than waste time rummaging around.. In and out fast.
I highly doubt theft has increased due to pot laws, I'd like to see the proof and logic behind that.. Pot has always been just as easily accessible here as it is now with storefronts, you just don't have to worry about getting scammed by a bad dealer.
XC700116
06-03-2015, 21:39
It's possible they spotted the items that they specifically wanted at some point when the garage door was open and targeted only those items rather than waste time rummaging around.. In and out fast.
I kind of doubt that based strictly off what wasn't taken. They were quick in and out idiot thieves, if they were the scope it out and plan types, the insurance claim would be higher by a large magnitude.
Our culture is so F'ed up. I don't get how we tolerate stealing as being OK as a society. It is so low. In Japan stealing is such an embarrassment that it is just not done. Yes there is crime there but not breaking and entering or things like this.
You get up every morning and work your tail off and some pussy thinks your hard earned property is for him to profit from. Stuff like this gets my blood boiling!
Griff
mcantar18c
06-03-2015, 22:17
I highly doubt theft has increased due to pot laws, I'd like to see the proof and logic behind that.. Pot has always been just as easily accessible here as it is now with storefronts, you just don't have to worry about getting scammed by a bad dealer.
It's attracted more undesirables to our state. Plain and simple. Look at the housing market if you need proof.
Frankly, theft should be something you can legally use lethal force over. Maybe not something like a car stereo, but take that welder for instance. It's entirely plausible (not saying this is the case, just that it easily could be for the next guy this prick steals from) that the OP has recently lost his job. He doesn't have enough savings to make it more than a couple months, and that welder was his ticket to putting food on the table for his wife and kid, doing small repairs and fab jobs until he found a job. The theft of that welder significantly effects his and his family's livelihood and well-being. I'd say he's got every right to kill over it, whether it's in his living room or a damn out house.
I also don't believe pot has much effect on theft (is there even an increase) or real estate. No one believes a bunch of undesireable dirt bags are flocking here and commiting burglary AND buying homes at the same time.
Aloha_Shooter
06-04-2015, 03:40
I also don't believe pot has much effect on theft (is there even an increase) or real estate. No one believes a bunch of undesireable dirt bags are flocking here and commiting burglary AND buying homes at the same time.
Mmmm ... I'd be really careful about conjecturing what other people believe. I happen to believe SOME undesirable dirt bags are flocking here because of the pot laws and committing burglary to support themselves and their habits. I believe some OTHER undesirable dirt bags are flocking here because of the pot laws and buying homes. I also believe other people who probably are NOT dirt bags are flocking here because of the pots laws and buying homes.
I have no idea how many are in each group but I suspect my feelings on pot would lead me to classify more people in the middle category than someone who is pro-pot.
I would hope most of us would agree on the individuals that fall the first category. [Coffee]
68Charger
06-04-2015, 07:21
It was just an observation that I hear more about property crime and car accidents, despite reports to the contrary from the likes of Polis (like we should trust him)...
Found this, anybody else look closely at the stats without the intent to skew them?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-a-sabet-phd/crime-is-up-in-colorado-w_b_5663046.html
I hate thieves, too, and believe society would be improved by executing thieves, either by a bullet to the head or by hanging. Third time, you're out! My place was burglarized 30 years ago and to this day I never return home without a gun in hand. Over the years I've helped police catch several burglars, vandals, arsonists, car thieves and miscellaneous dirt bags.
When staying at a hotel in Glenwood two weeks ago I watched as police investigated a vandalism where car windows were shot out, apparently with an airsoft gun. After they left the scene I later looked out to see a guy attempting to break into cars in the lot. I watched the guy with binoculars and called 911 to direct officers right to the person who had broken into the hatch back door of a Range Rover and was rummaging through the console. The guy had an airsoft pistol on the seat next to him, and a pile of four child safety seats nearby, stolen from other vehicles. Apparently the day before, a full suitcase, athletic bag and order of takeout went missing from a car at a Glenwood Springs hotel. The cops ran the license plate on the Range Rover, which was registered to an Infiniti reported stolen out of Colorado Springs. One of the VIN plates on the Rover was removed. The Land Rover itself was registered to an address in Carbondale, where authorities later discovered the original plates and the stolen Infiniti. (It looks like he had locked himself out of the Rover he had stolen and had to enter through the back--which spurred me to call the cops.)
A search of the Infiniti yielded the stolen suitcase and the remains of the takeout, as well as a pay stub and a receipt for an airsoft gun made out to the thief. In the Land Rover, police found .6 grams of marijuana and an airsoft gun. Thief was arrested for felony theft, criminal attempt to commit a felony, misdemeanor theft and underage possession of alcohol. More charges have been added.
He's still in the Garfield County Jail. Looks like an innocent kid, huh? But, this wasn't his first rodeo. He has had two similar arrests in Glenwood in the past year. Guess he didn't learn.
What do you think should happen to him? (See my answer above.)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Miscellaneous/Thief-charges_zpsxqaf410j.jpg (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/COHummer/media/Miscellaneous/Thief-charges_zpsxqaf410j.jpg.html)
^ Sounds like a somewhat happy ending.
We used to incarcerate to force criminals to repay their debts. Prisoners were forced to work hard jobs, for reduced wages, and all/some of they pay was directed to the victims. It had the benefit of providing restitution to the victim and punishing the criminal for the amount of value taken from his victims.
We should do that again.
Steal a car? How long does it take to earn the money to pay for that car at half min wage? That's the sentence. Steal $1,000 of a working man's tools? That might cost you 4-6 months... Is it worth it?
Lots of jobs out there Americans "don't want to do" and illegal immigrants taking them. We could be using prison labor. Win/win.
ruthabagah
06-04-2015, 10:51
I was burglarized a couple of times and feel your pain.
One comment about real estate and Pot in CO: there is a direct correlation with the 2. Why? real estate is the ONLY way for the pot industry as a whole, to invest their revenue. My real estate agent friends have seen a steady increase in the cash offer market and a lot of quick flip of houses in the last quarter. Some of the flips do not make sense from a financial stand point. My take: Money laundering.
This is going to create a mini bubble. Why? The feds are soon going to allow banks to accept MMJ/RMJ businesses as customer. Same with Credit card companies. If the Dem win in 2016, it will surely happen. If the GOP win in 2016 it will certainly happen (too much lobbying money from banks). Once this happen, a bunch of properties are going to hit the market here in CO all at once.
Aloha_Shooter
06-04-2015, 12:29
I remember our home being burgled when I was in junior high. Thieves stole heirloom jewelry my mother had gotten from her parents as a wedding present -- stuff that had been in our family for generations, gone in a single morning, probably to pay for a drug habit. Freaking scum.
XC700116
07-23-2015, 14:20
A little update, I got a call from the PD today and I'll be going by the office tomorrow to ID some of my possessions, and they caught the little bastards too. They managed to rack up over 40 counts of burglary for each of them and the cases keep getting added to the tab as these bastards were some busy beavers with over 40 known vehicles, homes, & garages that they've broken into.
Good news. Hope they hammer them.
kidicarus13
07-23-2015, 15:05
Good!
Delfuego
07-23-2015, 15:09
Glad to hear that.
sabot_round
07-23-2015, 17:41
Well, those are good news!! I hope that you get everything back, and that the prosecutor fry those phuckers.
glenncal1
07-24-2015, 11:21
I have an old Louisville Slugger you can borrow if you want to visit the little bastards in person [Rant1]
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