View Full Version : Know it all at work....
robertcolorado2009
06-04-2015, 19:48
Ok, every one, I am not at all a know it all, but I do work with a guy who is an US Army Vet from the first Gulf War era. He has spouted that every one knows that a 5.56 bullet bounces around in the barrel after initial discharge. I didn't want to embarrass him. Please tell me this is NOT true. This goes against all that I have learned about firearms in the last four years of buying my first firearm. I mean, how could the bullet have rifling lines on it for LE to prove origins of spent bullets. The more I say here, the more I feel really dumb to even think he's right. Just as he swears the Army hands out rifles with bent barrels willy-nilly.
Maybe he's confusing solid core bullets bouncing around inside of people?
Or maybe he's only shot a Mini-14?
UncleDave
06-04-2015, 20:18
He is confusing a tumbling round for a musket I guess.
blacklabel
06-04-2015, 20:25
Or he's trying to hide his ignorance through stupidity.
Bailey Guns
06-04-2015, 20:50
No, he's a dumbass.
And to think all this time I've been cursing my shooting skills.......
Was he trying to shoot 5.56 in a 7.62x51? Did he mention his MOS while he was in the Army? I was a helicopter mechanic when I was in the Army. We tried not to get too close to guns. Those things can kill you [LOL]
Ignorance about firearms knows no bounds.....sure he's not a libtard?
BPTactical
06-04-2015, 21:29
He probably shot 5.45x39 from a 5.56x45.[Coffee]
Makes em extra deadly with them thar tumblin an splodin boolits....
Great-Kazoo
06-04-2015, 21:48
IF he was a Real Know It All he'd be here justifying why he believes that. That shows me he's a poser. Slap a Run From Hillary sticker on his war wagon.
You knew he was Army.
Why the confusion?
[Peep]
Was he talking about tumbling and the issues they had initially in Vietnam? Maybe the explanation was poor or got lost in translation? Or he could be an idiot. Never know
The 'tumbling' is on impact, not in flight. When the nose of the bullet is slowed by contact with something, the heavier base of the bullet can yaw which starts the tumbling. This is especially true with lighter/shorter projectiles.
Ranger353
06-05-2015, 07:27
Well, let me think for a second...No. Dumb-ass. 100%
I was a Primary Marksmanship Instructor (PMI) for a time in the Marines, occasionally you would get a 220 lbs. grunt that would manage to bend his barrel on the obstacle course or some other adventure using the rifle as a leverage or step, where 1 grunt holds the muzzle end and another grabs the stock end, and then some big ass grunts stomp in the middle of the rifle to get over a wall. After 10 or so jarheads, that can screw up a bore and other stuff. But that rifle would go back to the depot for repair when the damage was discovered.
Not routine and not normal.
I've accidentally shot a steel case .223 out of a 7.62x39 AK. That pretty much matches the description. It was about 120 MOA low at 100 yards. Case handled expansion remarkably well.
I'm glad the rifle handled it.
I wouldn't call it an "accident" rather you were testing the indirect fire capability of the AK platform. ;)
TEAMRICO
06-05-2015, 08:25
As a fellow Gulf War Veteran, AKA "The Big One" as I tell my son, I can confirm that he is an idiot!!!
1/2 ACR C-15 Delta out.........
Rucker61
06-05-2015, 09:16
Maybe he's confusing solid core bullets bouncing around inside of people?
Or maybe he's only shot a Mini-14?
Well played, sir.
Rucker61
06-05-2015, 09:20
The only bent barrel I ever saw was over the shoulder of an Airborne soldier. Hard PLF, and we were in Honduras at the time, so a ready replacement wasn't immediately available.
SideShow Bob
06-05-2015, 13:32
Was he trying to shoot 5.56 in a 7.62x51? Did he mention his MOS while he was in the Army? I was a helicopter mechanic when I was in the Army. We tried not to get too close to guns. Those things can kill you [LOL]
I was thinking there same thing, a 5.56 in a 7.62 barrel........
Is this the guy......
58799
Martinjmpr
06-05-2015, 14:16
Reminds me of the people in the military who would insist that "the Soviets can use our ammo but we can't use theirs!" :rolleyes:
Yeah, it's one thing to drop an 81mm shell into a Soviet 82mm mortar (which would probably work, I guess) but try sticking a 122mm howitzer round into a 155mm howitzer and see how well that works for you. I don't want to be anywhere near that one when you pull the lanyard.
It's kind of like the question I asked a parachute rigger: can you drop an M1 tank? His reply was "you can drop anything - once." :D
Daniel_187
06-05-2015, 19:07
Former USMC Guy I work with told me his Beretta 92f was to wimpy so he went back to the armory and traded in in for a Beretta 92f in .45acp. True story LOL
jerrymrc
06-05-2015, 19:47
As a DS1 vet this is so sad.
BPTactical
06-05-2015, 19:54
Former USMC Guy I work with told me his Beretta 92f was to wimpy so he went back to the armory and traded in in for a Beretta 92f in .45acp. True story LOL
Long slide model.... right?
SideShow Bob
06-05-2015, 20:18
As a DS1 vet this is so sad.
I wonder if his qualification targets looked like this...
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/05/3f87f2b450ad3344cb61e868db98c463.jpg
Sent from my ass using re-fried beans.
BushMasterBoy
06-05-2015, 20:44
I love that game...."Battleship!"
Sounds like he's a card-carrying moron, and should be avoided.
BPTactical
06-06-2015, 07:47
I wonder if his qualification targets looked like this...
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/05/3f87f2b450ad3344cb61e868db98c463.jpg
Sent from my ass using re-fried beans.
Best group Bob ever shot![Coffee]
SideShow Bob
06-06-2015, 09:36
Best group Bob ever shot![Coffee]
Thank you, I did get two in the bullseye.
That is from the great mega $$$$ accurizing job you did on that rifle........ [Tooth]
Is this the guy......
58799
Win. I once worked with a guy like that a sailor who "assisted SEALS on ops" that were classified. He knew everything ab out everything. One day we were working in front of slaughter house. (In southern California so not a common sight). I said to the guy I was working with, that the know it all knew about butchering/slaughtering animals. No way. As we were working I said it sure would be interesting to tour the facility. Next thing you know, the know it all had a relative, an uncle I think, that had worked in a slaughter house. Then for the next several minutes we heard all kinds of stories about the slaughter house, I kept egging him on. It was the tensest minutes because me and my co-worker were ready to bust out laughing. When we got in the truck to move to a new location, we laughed so hard we were almost crying.
Win. I once worked with a guy like that a sailor who "assisted SEALS on ops" that were classified. He knew everything ab out everything. One day we were working in front of slaughter house. (In southern California so not a common sight). I said to the guy I was working with, that the know it all knew about butchering/slaughtering animals. No way. As we were working I said it sure would be interesting to tour the facility. Next thing you know, the know it all had a relative, an uncle I think, that had worked in a slaughter house. Then for the next several minutes we heard all kinds of stories about the slaughter house, I kept egging him on. It was the tensest minutes because me and my co-worker were ready to bust out laughing. When we got in the truck to move to a new location, we laughed so hard we were almost crying.
I actually did work in a very small slaughterhouse once, in Okeene, Oklahoma. All at once the most interesting, eye-opening, and disgusting job I ever had. Glad I did it, but don't want to again!
But yeah, know-it-alls are a PITA. Most need a good nut-punching.
BPTactical
06-06-2015, 17:19
Win. I once worked with a guy like that a sailor who "assisted SEALS on ops" that were classified. He knew everything ab out everything. One day we were working in front of slaughter house. (In southern California so not a common sight). I said to the guy I was working with, that the know it all knew about butchering/slaughtering animals. No way. As we were working I said it sure would be interesting to tour the facility. Next thing you know, the know it all had a relative, an uncle I think, that had worked in a slaughter house. Then for the next several minutes we heard all kinds of stories about the slaughter house, I kept egging him on. It was the tensest minutes because me and my co-worker were ready to bust out laughing. When we got in the truck to move to a new location, we laughed so hard we were almost crying.
We had a guy at CDOT that claimed he was former Navy, which I do not doubt watching him eat.
He had done EVERYTHING, from assisting with guided missile launches in Gulf War 1 to being on the Cole when it was attacked in Yemen.
Pure bullshit artist.
He used to go on and on about "Seal Training" (Funny, he never called it B.U.D.s).
I was in a mood one day and the entire crew was waiting for a meeting to start and Mike starts in with his Seal Training bullshit.
I asked him: "Hey Mike, you had Seal training right?"
Mike: "Yes I did."
Me: "Was it hard?"
Mike: "It sure was, the hardest thing I ever did."
Me: "How long did it take you to learn to balance a ball on your nose??"
Dead silence followed by raucous laughter from the crew.
He never said another word about "Seal Training" again.
Daniel_187
06-06-2015, 19:00
Long slide model.... right?
Yes and in a 40 watt range too.
james_bond_007
06-06-2015, 19:32
Maybe he was using a .22LR conversion bolt in his 5.56 rifle ?
Or perhaps he was so cool ( or on a super secret, ultra classified, 'special ops' mission) that he was the only one using special .17 caliber 'sabot-ed' bullets in 5.56 brass?
[Sarcasm2]
BPTactical
06-06-2015, 20:30
Yes and in a 40 watt range too.
Oohh- those are extra deadly......
robertcolorado2009
06-07-2015, 00:54
Thank You !!!!! I am so tired of his BS about how terrible the armory was in his "era" and yet he is a "bomb them into a parking lot" type. Frustrating co-worker, to say the least.
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