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drift_g35
06-20-2015, 16:34
I have a major squirrel problem and I just went out and got a pellet gun. It's a little loud as I think I'm not staying subsonic. Anyways. Is it legal to use it to help with my squirrel problem. Everything I have read mentions "city limits" but I am not in city limits. I'm in unincorporated jeffco. I just don't want the cops showing up.


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sniper7
06-20-2015, 16:45
Just shoot them. Be aware of your surroundings. Make shots count and if ever questioned; deny everything, admit nothing and make counter acuisations.

Mtn.man
06-20-2015, 16:51
Umarex air guns is what we have. They are real quiet. The only tree rats we shoot are the city squirrels, we let our Aberts be.

Irving
06-20-2015, 17:06
Try to shoot from indoors if possible.

Monky
06-20-2015, 18:46
Suppressed mp15 with sub loads... My neighbors wonder why they never see squirrels


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drift_g35
06-20-2015, 18:47
Suppressed mp15 with sub loads... My neighbors wonder why they never see squirrels


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I thought about this but the only thing that separates me from a school is a road and fence. I'll stick with the pellets.


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Great-Kazoo
06-20-2015, 19:08
I thought about this but the only thing that separates me from a school is a road and fence. I'll stick with the pellets.


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Penalty / fine is the same when discharging a firearm within city limits or residential areas. Might as well go for broke. Colibri red box works great out of a 4" revolver or 22/44. Based on conversations i may have been privy to, allegedly.

rondog
06-20-2015, 19:26
Get one of those Havahart type live traps, and bait it with a teaspoon of mixed nuts, where they can see and smell them, but have to go inside to get them. You'll catch the rat bastards, then can dispatch or release them elsewhere.

drift_g35
06-20-2015, 19:38
Get one of those Havahart type live traps, and bait it with a teaspoon of mixed nuts, where they can see and smell them, but have to go inside to get them. You'll catch the rat bastards, then can dispatch or release them elsewhere.

I'll be honest. I'm not going to waste my time with relocation. My FIL would catch them in live traps and then drop the trap into a 30 gallon trash can full of water. Then throw the squirrel over the fence for the foxes (high line canal) but this is a gun forum. this was a perfect excuse to get a new toy.


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RCCrawler
06-20-2015, 19:41
My neighbor has a trap in his backyard, in the last 2 months he has caught 8 of those bastards.

colorider
06-20-2015, 19:46
Go with a heavier pellet to keep it sub sonic. Jsb heavies work great in most guns.

SideShow Bob
06-20-2015, 19:53
I'll be honest. I'm not going to waste my time with relocation.

Got someone you really don't like or need a little get even on ?
Live trap & sedate the tree rats with a little starting fluid, and put them in the victims car while the rats are out........ Just a thought.......

JohnnyDrama
06-20-2015, 19:58
My father-in-law swears by his pellet gun. He makes his shots from indoors. He only shoots once and makes it count. But for what it's worth, he lives in southern Illinois. I reckon the laws there are a little different.

Firehaus
06-20-2015, 20:30
I'll be honest. I'm not going to waste my time with relocation. My FIL would catch them in live traps and then drop the trap into a 30 gallon trash can full of water. Then throw the squirrel over the fence for the foxes (high line canal) but this is a gun forum. this was a perfect excuse to get a new toy.


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This works well.


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DFBrews
06-20-2015, 21:01
Perfect time to get a suppressor. Or cci quiets both are quieter then most pellet guns

Blowby
06-20-2015, 21:18
I have seen a pellet gun in my life time and squirrels fall from our trees. Not sure why, maybe they are eating fermented nuts and fall on their little fragile necks. Neighbors hear and see nothing ....... so did the tree fall in the woods?

SideShow Bob
06-20-2015, 21:21
Perfect time to get a suppressor. Or cci quiets both are quieter then most pellet guns

Super Colibri 22's in a 16" rifle are quieter than a pellet rifle that is sub-sonic.

ChunkyMonkey
06-20-2015, 22:32
Super Colibri 22's in a 16" rifle are quieter than a pellet rifle that is sub-sonic.

This!!


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Wulf202
06-20-2015, 22:55
I use beeman 22 they stay sub sonic.

rondog
06-20-2015, 23:29
I hate the bird feeder vandals, they drive me nuts. My Daisy Powerline will dispatch them just fine, but my concern is that some yuppie or kid in my neighborhood would see one flopping around in my yard after I popped it, and then the po-po's gonna come, and grief will be visited upon me. I have no idea where you live, but I'd recommend caution about shooting them with anything. I'd hate for someone to go thru hell because of a friggin' skwerl.

The Rat
06-20-2015, 23:54
A .22 pellet gun will generally stay subsonic. A .22 pellet gun with a built-in suppressor and gas piston instead of a spring will be the quietest you can get as far as pellet guns go.

That said, suppressed .22lr with subsonic rounds is still a couple db quieter than a .22 pellet gun of that type.

Irving
06-21-2015, 02:38
As DFBrews said, the CCI Quiet .22 is suppressor quiet, and will clear the barrel every time on a 22" barrel. I've dispatched a raccoon in the front yard in the middle of the day on a Saturday without anyone knowing the difference. It is definitely more quite than my neighbor's Gamo Whisper (with the built in suppressor). For what it's worth, the Gamo doesn't sound like a "gun" because the sound you hear is a spring; but it is much louder. That said, I completely understand your reluctance to use a "real" gun near a school. While the .22 Quiet round is, in fact, quiet, I wouldn't feel comfortable dispatching any pests at any angle that doesn't take the round directly into the ground.

If you get something subsonic, bait the pest to a ground position, engage from indoors, and make your shots count; you should be fine.

WETWRKS
06-21-2015, 03:09
Got someone you really don't like or need a little get even on ?
Live trap & sedate the tree rats with a little starting fluid, and put them in the victims car while the rats are out........ Just a thought.......

Do not give me ideas...I have an upstairs neighbor who has been difficult for the last 8 months.

rondog
06-21-2015, 09:27
Do not give me ideas...I have an upstairs neighbor who has been difficult for the last 8 months.

gnihcraes
06-21-2015, 10:59
My friend borrowed my pellet gun, had it for a couple of years. Killed more than 150 of them in littleton. As others have said, get a good shot, shoot from indoors.

He had tried trapping them, but they eventually got smart and wouldn't go in the trap.

Also, consider a heavier hitting gun, .22 caliber pellet, slower, little noise.

rondog
06-21-2015, 13:40
Aren't squirrels considered "game animals", with license requirements, seasons, bag limits, etc.? Not sure how that would play into the pest control issue. Just sayin'..... I have no love for the little shits either.....

drift_g35
06-21-2015, 14:54
I have a small game license :)


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Jer
06-21-2015, 19:23
I built this expressly for the purpose of dispatching rabbits... that is if we had any. Haven't ever seen one in ten years though. Weird. ;-)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iYtW2I1Gxdc/VYL91LfcRuI/AAAAAAAAMo8/9I3JBF-HcJk/s1280/20150617_170936.jpg

Also, for those that suggest trapping, be VERY careful of going this route. I was going to invest in some traps for my issue and found out that you can get in BIG trouble for relocated wild animals into other wild areas. If someone sees you doing this you can be hit with more than a hand slap and I was amazed to hear how serious they take something a simple as relocated some little critters less than a quarter mile from out house. Bottom line is there's really no way to take care of yard vermin like this that isn't strongly discouraged by the .gov under the penalty of punishment so be careful. Just another way for The Man to jam you up.

Skip
06-21-2015, 19:55
I built this expressly for the purpose of dispatching rabbits... that is if we had any. Haven't ever seen one in ten years though. Weird. ;-)



Looks cool, but how do you pull the trigger? ;)

If you're my neighbor, and maintaining a proper sector of fire, I didn't see nuthin'. Ever. Rabbits, squirrels, neighbors barking ankle-biter, all fair game...

Firehaus
06-21-2015, 20:20
If you trap them you relocate them into a 55 gallon can full of water since I think it's a only a mile your allowed to relocate them.


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rondog
06-21-2015, 20:39
Wow, illegal to relocate friggin' squirrels? That's crazy!

drift_g35
06-21-2015, 20:41
I just relocated one into my garbage can. A pellet to the head does not kill them. I found that out the hard way.


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newracer
06-21-2015, 21:21
Jer is correct, trapping and relocating is a big no-no.

Jer
06-21-2015, 21:35
Looks cool, but how do you pull the trigger? ;)

Telepathy. The holster is just so I can rock it under a shirt as I'm out and about the house so neighbors don't get their panties in a bunch. I had a M&P15-22 but quickly realized that that looked WAY more menacing to a non-gun owner than what it was really capable of. This should be easier to conceal until the time it's needed and then can quickly be returned w/o anyone being the wiser.


If you're my neighbor, and maintaining a proper sector of fire, I didn't see nuthin'. Ever. Rabbits, squirrels, neighbors barking ankle-biter, all fair game...

I wish you were my neighbor. 10 years ago when we built the place we had good neighbors that wouldn't have minded either (most called me if something went bump in the night before they called 911 in fact) but unfortunately they've all moved off to either Texas or Idaho and Kalifornia transplants have taken root in their place. Blech. My ops need to be of the covert variety now unfortunately.


Wow, illegal to relocate friggin' squirrels? That's crazy!

Yep. We're against the foothills on the NW edge of Loveland, literally the last neighborhood before Rocky Mtn High, and if I trapped a bunny or two and drove them over the first ridge and let them go I could get in a world of shit if someone saw me do it. Lame.


I just relocated one into my garbage can. A pellet to the head does not kill them. I found that out the hard way.

A single suppressed .22LR to the dome seems to do the job nicely. DRT. So I heard....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MfZOqU8TB2A/VBNlGCf6GtI/AAAAAAAAK5g/fFKFYNYN5uo/s720/20140626_092332.jpg

rondog
06-21-2015, 23:20
Bunnies, I have no issue with bunnies. They help me keep the grass mowed. Always have several living under our shed every year. The little fist-sized babies are adorable! But squirrels.....

And yes, a pellet to the head will kill them! So I've heard.....

bnred9
06-22-2015, 07:29
Get one of those Havahart type live traps, and bait it with a teaspoon of mixed nuts, where they can see and smell them, but have to go inside to get them. You'll catch the rat bastards, then can dispatch or release them elsewhere.

Peanut Butter will work just as good

Skip
06-22-2015, 07:35
Telepathy. The holster is just so I can rock it under a shirt as I'm out and about the house so neighbors don't get their panties in a bunch. I had a M&P15-22 but quickly realized that that looked WAY more menacing to a non-gun owner than what it was really capable of. This should be easier to conceal until the time it's needed and then can quickly be returned w/o anyone being the wiser.

Good thinking! Sad things are going this way though. People should see it as a public service...

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/06/20/plague-confirmed-in-larimer-county-teens-death/

Jer
06-22-2015, 08:20
Bunnies, I have no issue with bunnies. They help me keep the grass mowed. Always have several living under our shed every year. The little fist-sized babies are adorable! But squirrels.....

And yes, a pellet to the head will kill them! So I've heard.....

You know what also thinks bunny babies are adorable? Rattle snakes.

hollohas
06-22-2015, 08:33
Here is the info I have found on eliminating and/or relocating nuisance wildlife.

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/WildlifeSpecies/LivingWithWildlife/NuisanceWildlife.pdf



1.) WHAT CAN I DO IF WILDLIFE IS CAUSING DAMAGE ON MY PROPERTY?Statute 33-6-107(9) and Wildlife Commission Regulations (WCR) 306(A), WCR 1000(A)(5), WCR 313(C) & WCR 327If wildlife is causing damage to crops, real or personal property, or livestock - a person (or any employee or agent of thelandowner) may hunt, trap, or take the following wildlife on lands owned or leased by the person without securing alicense to do so:
• Black-billed magpies, common crows, starlings, English or house sparrows, common pigeons, coyotes, bobcats, redfoxes, raccoons, jackrabbits, badgers, marmots, prairie dogs, pocket gophers, Richardson's ground squirrels, rocksquirrels, thirteen-lined ground squirrel, porcupines, crayfish, tiger salamanders, muskrats, beavers, exotic wildlife,and common snapping turtles.
• Additional species include: tree squirrels, cottontail rabbits, marmots, porcupines, bats, mice (except Preble's meadowjumping mouse), opossums, skunks, voles, rats, and ground squirrels.
• Any person may kill rattlesnakes when necessary to protect life or property.
• The pelts or hides of any mammal taken under these provisions may be transferred, possessed, traded, bartered, or soldby any person who holds an appropriate small game or furbearer license. (For information on the possession and/ordisposal of pelts and hides of animals NOT listed above, including bear and lion, please contact CPW for permission.)

2.) WHAT METHODS CAN I USE TO TAKE WILDLIFE WHEN THEY ARE CAUSING DAMAGE ON MYPROPERTY?Statute 33-6-203(1), WCR 303(A)(3), WCR 303(B), WCR 303 (E) & WCR 306Trapping and or shooting are the most common methods.
• If using firearms, check with your local authorities on the laws that apply to discharging a firearm.
• If trapping, the ONLY types of traps that may be used are LIVE (cage or box traps). (See #5 for exceptions.)
• Small game and furbearers captured in live traps cannot be moved from the capture site and must be killed or released onsite when the trap is checked. (See #3 and #4 following for exceptions.)

3.) WHICH WILDLIFE SPECIES CAN I RELOCATE WITHOUT A PERMIT?WCR 303(A)(3)Tree squirrels, cottontail rabbits and raccoons can be relocated without a permit, provided that:
• CPW has been notified in advance.
• The relocation site is appropriate habitat for the species.• Permission has been obtained from the landowner or managing agency where the animal will be released.
• The relocation must occur within 10 miles of the capture site for squirrels and rabbits and within 2 miles for

I live in JeffCo. I have never been able to find a single ordinance regarding legality of discharging airguns on private property. I'm under the assumption that if a regulation/ordinance doesn't exist making it illegal, than it must be legal. One of these days I'll call the Sheriff's office to confirm.

NFATrustGuy
06-22-2015, 08:35
You know what also thinks bunny babies are adorable? Rattle snakes.

Yep. Absolutely.

If you live west of Wilson, you're definitely in rattlesnake country.

I live just east of Wilson in Emerald Glen and they found a dead fox in our greenbelt area last year. I think my neighbors thought I had something to do with the death, but the "authorities" (whoever that means--this was passed on to me by my neighbors) determined that the fox died due to a rattlesnake bite. This was during the time Xcel was digging things up for the new gas line on the west side of Wilson. The theory was that all that construction stirred up the snakes.

Snakes, rabbits, foxes, coyote, bears... It's a jungle up here!

drift_g35
06-22-2015, 08:36
Bunnies, I have no issue with bunnies. They help me keep the grass mowed. Always have several living under our shed every year. The little fist-sized babies are adorable! But squirrels.....

And yes, a pellet to the head will kill them! So I've heard.....

You must not have a garden.

drift_g35
06-22-2015, 08:41
Yep. Absolutely.

If you live west of Wilson, you're definitely in rattlesnake country.

I live just east of Wilson in Emerald Glen and they found a dead fox in our greenbelt area last year. I think my neighbors thought I had something to do with the death, but the "authorities" (whoever that means--this was passed on to me by my neighbors) determined that the fox died due to a rattlesnake bite. This was during the time Xcel was digging things up for the new gas line on the west side of Wilson. The theory was that all that construction stirred up the snakes.

Snakes, rabbits, foxes, coyote, bears... It's a jungle up here!

My parents just had a fox die in their backyard in Highlands Ranch. Nobody would come and look at it or try to help it or dispose of it. I saw it the day before it hid in their backyard to die, and it looked real bad. No hair, was out in the middle of the day rubbing up against things trying to itch itself... Im guessing it got a bad squirrel or bad rabbit. Another reason why we should get to dispose of these as we deem necessary.

Jer
06-22-2015, 09:58
Yep. Absolutely.

If you live west of Wilson, you're definitely in rattlesnake country.

I live just east of Wilson in Emerald Glen and they found a dead fox in our greenbelt area last year. I think my neighbors thought I had something to do with the death, but the "authorities" (whoever that means--this was passed on to me by my neighbors) determined that the fox died due to a rattlesnake bite. This was during the time Xcel was digging things up for the new gas line on the west side of Wilson. The theory was that all that construction stirred up the snakes.

Snakes, rabbits, foxes, coyote, bears... It's a jungle up here!

West of Wilson we are. Our neighborhood made the Denver Post a few years back when they ran a story about rattlers in neighborhoods. Our neighborhood all the way up here made the Denver Post if that gives you any idea. Even after all the construction was done in this neighborhood we found a 3.5' rattler sunning itself in our neighbor's front yard in the middle of the neighborhood. I even posted up signs telling people not to encourage the rabbits because while they were cute and harmless (if you don't have any plants/flowers) their babies were a favorite of the rattle snakes and for the safety of our pets/children it was to everyone's best interest to not feed them. People actually tore down my signs and put up signs about saving the bunnies. Unreal.

newracer
06-22-2015, 21:28
The also carry Tularemia