SCOTUS Affirms ACA

[Rucker61]

Votes 6:3

[RblDiver]

Words no longer have meaning.

[roberth]

Did you expect something different? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. This is just another affirmation that the parasites are running the show. Healthcare is NOT a right in spite of this unconstitutional law.

[RblDiver]

Not surprised, but seriously dismayed that they can't read a word and interpret it as exactly what it says.

"Scalia added, “Words no longer have meaning if an Exchange that is not established by a State is ‘established by the State.’ It is hard to come up with a clearer way to limit tax credits to state Exchanges than to use the words ‘established by the State.’ And it is hard to come up with a reason to include the words ‘by the State’ other than the purpose of limiting credits to state Exchanges.”" - http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/06/25/supreme-court-upholds-tax-subsidies-under-obamacare/

[thvigil11]

As, I've said for the last 3 years. We are too far now for any sort of correction. I firmly believe that this system will continue all the way down into a crash. I'm not sure whether or not I will live to see it. Sometimes I feel the death with be drawn out over a long time, although other things make me think it's right around the corner. But I am positive that a complete crash is the only option for the future now. They've won, We lost..... Most of the time I feel a little like ol' Capt. Malcolm Reynolds.


Shiny.

[RblDiver]

Most of the time I feel a little like ol' Capt. Malcolm Reynolds.

Should go with Jayne, not Mal. I'm sure Nathan Fillion is ecstatic about this decision.

[thvigil11]

Should go with Jayne, not Mal. I'm sure Nathan Fillion is ecstatic about this decision.

Yeah, sadly Fillion is about as far from the character he portrayed as one could be.

[KestrelBike]

Sad, sad day for the judiciary and checks and balances.

[Singlestack]

As, I've said for the last 3 years. We are too far now for any sort of correction. I firmly believe that this system will continue all the way down into a crash. I'm not sure whether or not I will live to see it. Sometimes I feel the death with be drawn out over a long time, although other things make me think it's right around the corner. But I am positive that a complete crash is the only option for the future now.

Couldn't agree more. I fully expected Roberts to side with the libs on this, as we saw his true colors in the first Obamacare ruling. On basic common sense and the meaning of unambiguous words, this should have been 9-0 against Obamacare. This simply teaches us that words and common sense no longer matters, and you can expect insane rulings not backed by law from this point forward. "Just another brick in the wall", sort of.

[Rooskibar03]

As, I've said for the last 3 years. We are too far now for any sort of correction. I firmly believe that this system will continue all the way down into a crash. I'm not sure whether or not I will live to see it. Sometimes I feel the death with be drawn out over a long time, although other things make me think it's right around the corner. But I am positive that a complete crash is the only option for the future now. They've won, We lost..... Most of the time I feel a little like ol' Capt. Malcolm Reynolds.


Shiny.

Another plus one. Bring on the reset, let's start new.

[Dave_L]

This is setting up to be the most bittersweet "Told you so" moment ever when things come crashing down.

[KestrelBike]

This is setting up to be the most bittersweet "Told you so" moment ever when things come crashing down.
I'm not sure I'd even waste my breath on anyone worth saying that too. Nor charity.

[muddywings]

How long until single payer? I'm thinking about 7 years or so.

[kidicarus13]

I need the Cliff Notes version. Something to do with Obamacare was upheld by SCOTUS so...

[thvigil11]

How long until single payer? I'm thinking about 7 years or so.

Sound about right, maybe a little quicker.

[Rucker61]

Sound about right, maybe a little quicker.

Then the next question asked will be, "Hey, where did all the doctors go?"

[TEAMRICO]

I'm too tired to care anymore.
Sorry guys but I just don't fucking care anymore.

[sellersm]

Words really haven't had meaning for quite some time. Lines right up with the sheeple's inability to actually think & reason. Goodbye America...

[KestrelBike]

How long until single payer? I'm thinking about 7 years or so.


Sound about right, maybe a little quicker.
Hillary 2016?

[muddywings]

Hillary 2016?

her second term

[StagLefty]

KHOW talk show this a.m. We might as well all vote Democrat at this stage and get it over with. The Republican side sure shafted us.
Just the general feeling it seems on there today.

[BushMasterBoy]

I heard Mexico has affordable care. If I was really sick, I'd go there...

[thvigil11]

KHOW talk show this a.m. We might as well all vote Democrat at this stage and get it over with. The Republican side sure shafted us.
Just the general feeling it seems on there today.

Some truth right there. Seems like the R's are just gonna prolong this crap. Let's just elect the D's and the sooner this whole enchiliada's gonna spoil.

[KestrelBike]

Some truth right there. Seems like the R's are just gonna prolong this crap. Let's just elect the D's and the sooner this whole enchiliada's gonna spoil.
In Before Baileyguns.

I'm starting to feel the same way. Rs, not just the usual Rinos, sold us down the f'ing river.

[polski]

Also heard this by a caller into KHOW this am: "Support Progressive idiocy---vote Hillary 2016!"

Sad to say but It is all over except the crying.

[HoneyBadger]

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon with some of you guys on this one... I don't care how bad you project it will be in 50 years, it will be MUCH WORSE if we are spilling each others' blood in the streets. I don't want my children to grow up in that world. They will be critical thinkers, reasoners, and supporters of liberty, but I would much rather they use their reason and pens until reason and pens are simply no longer an option. We are not yet at the stage of the game.

[thvigil11]

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon with some of you guys on this one... I don't care how bad you project it will be in 50 years, it will be MUCH WORSE if we are spilling each others' blood in the streets. I don't want my children to grow up in that world. They will be critical thinkers, reasoners, and supporters of liberty, but I would much rather they use their reason and pens until reason and pens are simply no longer an option. We are not yet at the stage of the game.

I want you to be right, HB. I truly do. In fact I've never wanted to be more wrong on something than this. But I can't help but think the way I do.

[Beer]

[Singlestack]

I tend to agree with the Badger, but it is clear that conservatives have already lost SCOTUS. Some speculate that the admin must have blackmailed Roberts for his about face. Remember, Breyer was appointed by either Reagan or Bush1 and was supposed to be a reliably conservative vote. However, from his time in SCOTUS he has reliably voted lib.

At some point the next landmark 2A case will come up and I am not hopeful it will go the way of Heller.

[Mtn.man]

Anyone who ever crossed the clinton's is now taking a dirt nap.

[Bailey Guns]

KHOW talk show this a.m. We might as well all vote Democrat at this stage and get it over with. The Republican side sure shafted us.
Just the general feeling it seems on there today.

I'm curious what the republicans had to do with this ruling?

[BushMasterBoy]

Anyone who ever crossed the clinton's is now taking a dirt nap.

Like a former chef that drowned in the New Mexico desert? I sure don't miss Little Rock...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politics/white-house-chef-missing-found-dead/

[sellersm]

At some point the next landmark 2A case will come up and I am not hopeful it will go the way of Heller.

Won't need to if the TPA/Fast-Track/TPP debacle happens. POTUS can just negotiate & sign the UN Small Arms Treaty and, bam!, our 2A rights are gone.

[asmo]

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon with some of you guys on this one... I don't care how bad you project it will be in 50 years, it will be MUCH WORSE if we are spilling each others' blood in the streets. I don't want my children to grow up in that world. They will be critical thinkers, reasoners, and supporters of liberty, but I would much rather they use their reason and pens until reason and pens are simply no longer an option. We are not yet at the stage of the game.

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe

[Bailey Guns]

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon with some of you guys on this one... I don't care how bad you project it will be in 50 years, it will be MUCH WORSE if we are spilling each others' blood in the streets. I don't want my children to grow up in that world. They will be critical thinkers, reasoners, and supporters of liberty, but I would much rather they use their reason and pens until reason and pens are simply no longer an option. We are not yet at the stage of the game.

I'd say we're not even close to that stage of the game. Anyone who wishes for that is a fool. Not saying it should never happen, but it needs to be a lot worse than what it is now. Personally, I believe if we could just take over the education system (like the leftists did several years ago) we wouldn't have to do anything else. It might take a couple of generations but it would solve the problem. And it worked for the left...we just need to take back schools and colleges and young minds and it'll work for the right.

[sellersm]

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon with some of you guys on this one... I don't care how bad you project it will be in 50 years, it will be MUCH WORSE if we are spilling each others' blood in the streets. I don't want my children to grow up in that world. They will be critical thinkers, reasoners, and supporters of liberty, but I would much rather they use their reason and pens until reason and pens are simply no longer an option. We are not yet at the stage of the game.

Unfortunately, history proves otherwise. In almost all major conflicts in the past, if the oppressed had fought off the oppressor at the first sign of oppression, things would've turned out different. As the saying goes, if they're going to create a group of criminals with the stroke of a pen, then you might as well act like one...

I've said it in other threads, I'll say it again here: we're not dealing with just 'ordinary folks' today. It's evil. Gotta know how to fight evil, otherwise you're toast...

[StagLefty]

I'm curious what the republicans had to do with this ruling?

Nothing. Just seems the way the tide is going due to recent events.

[Bailey Guns]

^^ Oh, OK. I see what you're saying.

Just a reminder...not a SINGLE republican voted for SCOTUScare (thanks Justice Scalia for the new term). Republicans had nothing to do with this legislation and they've voted almost 40 times (I think that's about right) in the House to repeal it.

[Mtn.man]

So we continue to roll down the hill out of control.

More gun control, ammo bans, gov. wanting reports on ammo purchases, you can't live off the grid,
gov. wants banks to snitch on people depositing or withdrawing as little as 5k.
The SHIT ball is getting huge.

[thvigil11]

I'd say we're not even close to that stage of the game. Anyone who wishes for that is a fool. Not saying it should never happen, but it needs to be a lot worse than what it is now. Personally, I believe if we could just take over the education system (like the leftists did several years ago) we wouldn't have to do anything else. It might take a couple of generations but it would solve the problem. And it worked for the left...we just need to take back schools and colleges and young minds and it'll work for the right.

"If" you could, sure it would work. I just don't see it happening. Them ticks are too dug in. And the left will never relent. Conservatives have relented time and time again. 70+ years of failure to take a stand on things that really mattered. If what we have seen in the past 7 years has not been enough for the right to get their shit together, then what is it gonna take? If we did this, if we did that, so on and so on. We have failed over and over to do this or that. Even when we really tried, what good did it do. I ain't quitting, nor am I advocating violence, I'm just sayin its over.

Always been once for lost causes anyway.

[KestrelBike]

I'm curious what the republicans had to do with this ruling?
Ah sorry, my mind at that moment was on the obamatrade stuff

[HoneyBadger]

Interesting observation, sellersm. I do agree that tyrants are best stopped before they get started!

I have been studying Mongol history for the last few weeks and have come across an interesting theory (phenomenon?) sometimes referred to as creative destruction. There are many historians and others who believe that when civilization becomes boxed into a corner and the growth becomes stagnant, it is necessary for some sort of massive destruction in order to "free the logjam" and allow civilization to progress. For example, the Romans brought many advanced technologies to most of the surrounding Mediterranean and European people, along with advanced governing systems and economics during their conquests. The fact that they slaughtered hundreds of thousands (probably millions), raped as many and enslaved many more is a tiny little detail that we don't need to worry about...

It is easy to justify (or at least understand) certain historical events with this perspective because we are so detached from the horror of the atrocities. However the less removed we are from the events, the harder it is to justify the destruction. Prime example: Genghis Khan directed the murders of tens of millions in the most brutal fashion imagineable, and his men raped MILLIONS (which is why his direct bloodline is the most common anywhere in the world today... nearly 1:500 people anywhere in the world are direct descendants of Genghis Khan), but many apologists and revisionist historians have spent centuries brushing that aside while proclaiming the age-old "But just LOOK at what he did! He revolutionized the use of horses! He revolutionized trade! He revolutionized the way in which a kingdom could be managed from afar! He revolutionized...." blah blah blah. I'm certain it is still too fresh in our memories, but I would bet that within the next century, someone will write a book praising the genetic and scientific developments of the Third Reich.

On a level that we may better sympathize with, the American revolution was a lot of death and destruction. It was ugly, nasty, bloody. Is it easy for us to say now that it was worth it? Absolutely. If you could go back to 1780 and ask a widow if it was worth losing her family and home, she may be a bit less enthusiastic. If the revolution started tomorrow, would anyone care a hundred years from now about the individual lives lost? Most certainly not. But since we are here now talking about the real world, I would much rather myself and my family did not have to live in a time filled with such devastation, destruction, and loss. When I didn't have a family to be responsible for, I understandably had a different tone, but now my first and foremost concern is the providing for and protection of my family. If all hell breaks loose, then sure I'll take up my sword and shield, but until then, I'll stick with reason and the pen, while encouraging others to do the same.

[brutal]

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon with some of you guys on this one... I don't care how bad you project it will be in 50 years, it will be MUCH WORSE if we are spilling each others' blood in the streets. I don't want my children to grow up in that world. They will be critical thinkers, reasoners, and supporters of liberty, but I would much rather they use their reason and pens until reason and pens are simply no longer an option. We are not yet at the stage of the game.

HB,

Unfortunately, I think the only way your kids have a bright future as contributing members of a sound society is if we get an early collapse and a total reset to conservative values and leadership.

The country is morally bankrupt and on the road to financial ruin. The system is not sustainable on it's current path and things are guaranteed to keep getting worse unless there's a paradigm shift.

[HoneyBadger]

HB,

Unfortunately, I think the only way your kids have a bright future as contributing members of a sound society is if we get an early collapse and a total reset to conservative values and leadership.

The country is morally bankrupt and on the road to financial ruin. The system is not sustainable on it's current path and things are guaranteed to keep getting worse unless there's a paradigm shift.

I completely understand what you are saying, but I don't think a collapse and rebuild is possible in a single generational timeframe. Am I being unreasonable? Maybe with the speed of tech these days it could happen a lot faster, but I think once the US becomes a 3rd world country, we can't exactly just step right back up to the plate.

[Mtn.man]

Iceland rebound very well after their 08' collapse. They let the bankers rot.
We could very well see a collapse of banking, government, etc. within a few years.

[KestrelBike]

I think a lot of our stability is actually dependent on China. What if they pull the pin somehow: with a coup that we didn't see coming, their economy collapsing and calling in our debt, or dragging us down anyways with how much we depend on their cash and manufacturing. Imo, besides the usual doom and gloom scenarios, we're ripe for a complete blindside that we haven't yet considered or are capable of confronting until it's too late. Look at ww1: America entered it, but what the hell did we have to do with the assassination of Franz Ferdinand?

[Big John]

If something doesn't change soon...

Rather than die the death of a million cut's, I'll be voting for Hillary and get it over with. Rip the band-aid off and quit fucking around.



Yes, that was me expressing this to Mandy this am.

[Irving]

HBar has a strong point. How many people in the South during the first Civil war felt that they are fighting for what they thought was right?

[Bailey Guns]

who says if we had a restart that we would restart as a Constitution based country? Who says we would be better off? I think it is foolish to think that if we had a civil war, the final product would be a country based on a 200+ year old document. It could be that the country becomes something we hate I think to many of you are thinking the war will only be fought by like minded individuals who will then be the only ones who get to make decisions about the reformed government. I also find it interesting that MOST (not all) of the people wanting a war either never actually served in a war, or have no children or children that are long grown. I think people have no clue about how bad war can be. Just because when we fight our wars now they are fairly clean and we have resourses and medical care, doesnt mean it would be that way if we had another civil war.

And no, I have no idea what the answers are on how to fix it.

This is exactly right. There's no guarantee the results of an internal conflict are going to be favorable to whatever side you're on.


Rather than die the death of a million cut's, I'll be voting for Hillary and get it over with. Rip the band-aid off and quit fucking around.

Yeah... That's smart and makes tons of sense. Good luck with that. [facepalm] Sometimes there just aren't enough face-palms.

[GilpinGuy]

The writhing. ....it hurts to see.

[DireWolf]

This is exactly right. There's no guarantee the results of an internal conflict are going to be favorable to whatever side you're on.



Yeah... That's smart and makes tons of sense. Good luck with that. [facepalm] Sometimes there just aren't enough face-palms.

I found the following book to have some very interesting discussions around this, and highly recommend giving it a look..the analyses presented in the first half-dozen chapters are of particular interest...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1450574289


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[theGinsue]

I found the following book to have some very interesting discussions around this, and highly recommend giving it a look..the analyses presented in the first half-dozen chapters are of particular interest...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1450574289


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Um... Purchasing that book online will likely result in getting added to lists most would prefer to stay off of. I don't think I want to give anyone reason to use such a purchase against me either.

[Rooskibar03]

Um... Purchasing that book online will likely result in getting added to lists most would prefer to stay off of. I don't think I want to give anyone reason to use such a purchase against me either.

i think association with Kazoo already puts us on all sorts of lists.

[cstone]

I found the following book to have some very interesting discussions around this, and highly recommend giving it a look..the analyses presented in the first half-dozen chapters are of particular interest...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1450574289


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Is the author related to Tom Martino? He has a list too. [gohome]

[DireWolf]

Um... Purchasing that book online will likely result in getting added to lists most would prefer to stay off of. I don't think I want to give anyone reason to use such a purchase against me either.
I'm sure that with the current state of data collection and behavioral analysis that I (as with most of us I would imagine) was already on all said lists prior to any particular book purchase....

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[DireWolf]

Is the author related to Tom Martino? He has a list too. [gohome]
I simply found it to be an interesting read with some well put together analysis in the first part of the book, and thought I'd share...not forcing anyone to go buy it or even agree with me, so we can leave it at that....

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[Gman]

[Faint]

[GilpinGuy]

Watching politics today is like watching the WWF. All the fighters put on a good show then laugh at us peasants as they party at our expense. Sorry, but Rs and Ds are pretty much the same these days. Go ahead and flame me......

[Richard K]

Just another nail in the healthcare coffin. I personally know of eleven doctors who have left their practices because they could not afford the costs associated with the additional employees they needed to hire to just do the governmnnt mandated paperwork. More will surely follow now.

[generalmeow]

Keep voting republican

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[HoneyBadger]

Keep voting republican

59212

Thanks for adding your insight to the discussion....

[brutal]

Thanks for adding your insight to the discussion....

If you quote him, my ignore doesn't work.

[Big John]

This is exactly right. There's no guarantee the results of an internal conflict are going to be favorable to whatever side you're on.



Yeah... That's smart and makes tons of sense. Good luck with that. [facepalm] Sometimes there just aren't enough face-palms.So your way is the only way? You are free to choose to be the eternal (frustrated) optimist. I'd love to be able to take that stance. I may take this stance with you in the end. I will not know until the primary. If the primary doesn't produce a candidate that holds the values I deem necessary to stop the bleeding, voting R will no longer be an option for me.

[buffalobo]

Everybody keep it civil or get the weekend off.

sent from my electronic ball and chain

[DavieD55]

Congress could defund commiecare at 8 am tomorrow morning if they wanted to, Article 1 Section 7 of the US Constitution. People still have a whole lot of power in their hands but are apathetic, ignorant, and too busy doing all that important s--- like sitting around in the evenings watching propaganda and all that other BS on TV, playing video games etc.

[thvigil11]

ACA was never meant to live forever anyway. Its design is to worm its way into our system and crash healthcare as we know it. Paving the way for single payer. Sadly the libs will claim victory when it fails and its failure will be hung around the neck of the republicans. In the same way that the southern dems brought about jim crow and even the whole damn confed flag bs in the first place, but now they've rewritten the history so it was the republican party that was the party of segregation. Fun times....... where's my whiskey?

[HoneyBadger]

where's my whiskey?
...At Costco, waiting for you to buy it in bulk. [Neene3]

[thvigil11]

...At Costco, waiting for you to buy it in bulk. [Neene3]

Damn straight. They've got the best deal going on Fireball. Gonna be a good friday night! Cheers HB!

[davsel]

who says if we had a restart that we would restart as a Constitution based country? Who says we would be better off? I think it is foolish to think that if we had a civil war, the final product would be a country based on a 200+ year old document. It could be that the country becomes something we hate I think to many of you are thinking the war will only be fought by like minded individuals who will then be the only ones who get to make decisions about the reformed government. I also find it interesting that MOST (not all) of the people wanting a war either never actually served in a war, or have no children or children that are long grown. I think people have no clue about how bad war can be. Just because when we fight our wars now they are fairly clean and we have resourses and medical care, doesnt mean it would be that way if we had another civil war.

And no, I have no idea what the answers are on how to fix it.

^Precisely.

Revolution/Civil War does not often create a Republic.
It usually results in a series of dictators that then must be overthrown.
It's a long terrible process to get back to the start.

"There is nothing new under the sun."


Good read at: http://thoughts-and-stuff-zwright.blogspot.com/2011/05/natural-progression-of-all.html


"... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (http://astore.amazon.com/politics0fd-20/detail/0691137722) (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950)

The words of Thomas Jefferson (http://astore.amazon.com/politics0fd-20/detail/0691137722) above can be an advertisement to how serious the Founding Fathers took the preservation of liberty. They understood the natural progression of Governments. They all begin as Republics that respect and honor the individual rights and liberties of each and every man. Taking great care to preserve those liberties and understanding that limited Government was the only way in which to insure that continuity.

But along the way Governments somehow evolve into a concept that the individual rights are not as important as the will of the majority. An evolved belief that Majority Rule should be the prevailing concept…where it is put to a vote and the majority determines the rules, regulations, laws and proper conduct of society.

Recognizing that with each such vote the rights and liberties of more and more citizens are infringed upon in the name of Majority Rule.

The Founding Fathers understood how dangerous this concept would be to the ultimate destruction of Government and leading the way eventually to the concept of rule by a single man…a single man that would make himself or herself, king, queen, monarch, dictator or even eventually to the point of absolute tyrant.

The natural progression of government then becomes one of:

Republic → Democracy → Single Rule (Monarchy, Dictator, Tyranny) → Revolution
↑________________And the Process Begins Again___________________↓

The average existence of all governments since the beginning is approximately 200 years before the process begins anew. Some much longer, some much shorter to derive the average, but the Founding Fathers advocated the reality of forcing the Government back to its roots on a periodic basis.

Consider this phrase taken directly from the Declaration of Independence and you will understand where they were coming from and what they were trying to protect:

“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.”

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson (http://astore.amazon.com/politics0fd-20/detail/0691137722)

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington

Have we as a people forgotten the powerful concepts that our Founding Fathers put in place for this “Great American Experiment”, or have we ventured into the evolution of the natural progression of Government that they so greatly feared. When you look at the dissolution of the two party system and the presumption of power assumed by the executive branch through the use of Executive Orders and Proclamations; the melting away of the three branches of Government where are we on that fatal timeline.

Maybe it is time for all of America to take a strong look at our Government, who the real power brokers are and determine how we will return this great nation to one of a Republic and restore the principles of the Constitution. (http://./)

[thvigil11]

Who says we want another country like this. I was thinking of the People's Republic of Thvigil11. Who wants to be my Generallisimo who will eventually lead the coup to overthrow my brutal regime?

[HoneyBadger]

Who says we want another country like this. I was thinking of the People's Republic of Thvigil11. Who wants to be my Generallisimo who will eventually lead the coup to overthrow my brutal regime?
I'd prefer a dictatorship, where the dictator is someone who will generally let people dictate their own damn lives and then force the people to stop demanding that anyone gives a fuck about their facebook, twitter, instragram, etc.




Also, anyone with hurt feelings will be required to fill out a hurt feelings report and then post it with their name in the public square for a period of 30 days for public ridicule:
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/109851826.png

[RblDiver]

Who says we want another country like this. I was thinking of the People's Republic of Thvigil11. Who wants to be my Generallisimo who will eventually lead the coup to overthrow my brutal regime?

I want to be the crony who gets a cushy but not prominent job, who at the first sign of trouble manages to strike a deal with the opposition in exchange for a large Swiss bank account and get to retire to someplace tropical and remote.

[DavieD55]

ACA was never meant to live forever anyway. Its design is to worm its way into our system and crash healthcare as we know it. Paving the way for single payer.


Right. Problem --- Reaction --- Solution.

[thvigil11]

I'd prefer a dictatorship, where the dictator is someone who will generally let people dictate their own damn lives and then force the people to stop demanding that anyone gives a fuck about their facebook, twitter, instragram, etc.




Also, anyone with hurt feelings will be required to fill out a hurt feelings report and then post it with their name in the public square for a period of 30 days for public ridicule:
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/109851826.png

HB, you shall be my second in command. Rbldiver, I've got just the thing for you, Mr. Ambassador to the UN. Also I've changed my mind regarding our name. We will be "The People's Banana - Hammock Republic.".

[BPTactical]

Also, anyone with hurt feelings will be required to fill out a hurt feelings report and then post it with their name in the public square for a period of 30 days for public ridicule:
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/109851826.png

Awesome, although it needs to include a box for: "Was party transported from scene by Waaaambulance?"

[buffalobo]

Awesome, although it needs to include a box for: "Was party transported from scene by Waaaambulance?"

Under ACA, Waaaambulance pay you. [facepalm]

[HoneyBadger]

HB, you shall be my second in command. Rbldiver, I've got just the thing for you, Mr. Ambassador to the UN. Also I've changed my mind regarding our name. We will be "The People's Banana - Hammock Republic.".
[Awesom]

[RblDiver]

HB, you shall be my second in command. Rbldiver, I've got just the thing for you, Mr. Ambassador to the UN. Also I've changed my mind regarding our name. We will be "The People's Banana - Hammock Republic.".

http://www.memegen.com/m/gbwipe.jpg