View Full Version : 22/45. Holy crap what a pain.
Rooskibar03
07-08-2015, 21:42
I'm not especially handy with small parts but I can usually fumble my way through a field strip, some minor maintenance and upgrade.
But holy crap who designed this stupid thing. I just wanted to put a mag disconnect and extended release on mine and it turned into way more cussing than I expected.
Got out it back together and ran 2 magaInes through it but something just feels off. I'm sure I'm paranoid but I needed to vent some.
It took me two days and more cussing to get the doohickey to stay connected around the firing pin while shaking the whatchamacallit upside down an applying an unreasonable amount of force to the lever thingy. But now it seems good.
Great-Kazoo
07-08-2015, 23:52
I can take down and reassemble ANY ruger 22 Variant (MK II through the current production) in 20 minutes or less. Doing to the right way, that's another story.
Once did take down and reassembly for a good hour 1 day, just to get the hang of it. Next field strip, Like i've never done it before [facepalm]
SouthPaw
07-09-2015, 09:26
You need three hands to do just clean the damn thing. I love mine but they are really a pain in the rear to work on.
Well, you've got some time before .22 is available again, if that makes you feel any better.
StagLefty
07-09-2015, 09:52
Great gun but yeah a pain in the ass to take apart and reassemble.
I've almost thrown my MKIII out the window a few times. I love the pistol but it took me a while to get the breakdown and assembly right.
Sounds like your guns are faulty. Better give them to me for safe disposal. [emoji1]
First gun I ever owned that I NEEDED to RTFM to field strip...
http://chrispepperphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/RTFM-you-must.jpg
Rooskibar03
07-09-2015, 13:46
Who needs a manual? Just about anything you need to know can be found on YouTube.
The Duke
07-19-2015, 15:57
I know the pistol shoots great, but the take down and reassembly is a pita. I saw this easy take down kit, has anyone ever installed one?
http://www.majesticarms.com/id10.html
Reassembly is greatly simplified if you point the muzzle strait up when reattaching the frame to the barrel.
FromMyColdDeadHand
08-17-2015, 12:02
I stopped shooting my 22/45 because it was such a PITA to re-assemble. Had my son out shooting and used the 22/45 to orientate him to shooting a semi-auto pistol. Dreaded cleaning it but did it anyways. I was amazed that it went back together without a hitch. I got it back to together and thought that I couldn't have gotten that easy. I wish I could remember what the heck I had done. I think it had to do with what hatidua said.
kidicarus13
08-17-2015, 13:09
I stopped shooting my 22/45 because it was such a PITA to re-assemble.
Same boat but Mark II. I tried muzzle up, videos, email advice, etc. I think it's just luck when I finally get it. It shouldn't be that hard.
Great-Kazoo
08-17-2015, 14:38
I know the pistol shoots great, but the take down and reassembly is a pita. I saw this easy take down kit, has anyone ever installed one?
http://www.majesticarms.com/id10.html
For the $50 i don't mind spending 5 - 8 min to re-assemble
Reassembly is greatly simplified if you point the muzzle strait up when reattaching the frame to the barrel.
yes it is, starts @ pg 24
http://www.ruger.com/products/_manuals/markIII.pdf
I friend has that easy assembly kit, or what ever it's called, and swears by it. I seem to love the agony and won't buy one.
sneakerd
08-18-2015, 09:30
Let me help you guys.... If you read the Ruger manual and follow the directions- it's a snap.
Colorado Osprey
08-19-2015, 05:27
Same boat but Mark II. I tried muzzle up, videos, email advice, etc. I think it's just luck when I finally get it. It shouldn't be that hard.
Once you learn to take it down and re-assemble it, it is easier and faster than taking down an AR-15.
I stopped shooting mine a couple of years ago when reasonable priced ammo disappeared. Currently it is cheaper for me to shoot 9mm than the NEW prices for 22lr.
Colohunter
12-10-2015, 03:32
I just installed a Volquartsen trigger, sear and magazine disconnect in mine. I did have to back up a couple times to make sure that everything went together right, but I have found that familiarity helps a lot. I used to shoot the pistol rarely and avoid taking it apart. But now that I have a suppressor for it, I shoot it almost every range trip and the more I disassemble and assemble it, the easier it gets. Here is the video I did of replacing the parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFG3nLTMBPk
The gun shoots even better now and the magazines actually eject without hanging up.
Fentonite
12-10-2015, 04:01
I just installed a Volquartsen trigger, sear and magazine disconnect in mine. I did have to back up a couple times to make sure that everything went together right, but I have found that familiarity helps a lot. I used to shoot the pistol rarely and avoid taking it apart. But now that I have a suppressor for it, I shoot it almost every range trip and the more I disassemble and assemble it, the easier it gets. Here is the video I did of replacing the parts:
https://youtu.be/rFG3nLTMBPk
The gun shoots even better now and the magazines actually eject without hanging up.
thanks for posting this, nice job on the video. I think I'm gonna do the same to mine. I like your idea to get rid of that pesky bolt release spring.
Colohunter
12-10-2015, 04:33
It's nice, I'm used to pulling the slide back to release it after lock back, so having to use the bolt release on the 22/45 threw off my normal handling. Now it will release just like most other pistols when you pull the slide back on a loaded magazine.
Fentonite
12-10-2015, 04:57
yeah, that "function" threw me off the first time I took it to the range, glad there's a fix. [Beer]
On another topic, am I the only one bothered by dry-firing a .22? I know the 22/45 has to be dry-fired for disassembly, but it still bugs me. As a youth, I really boogered-up the chamber of a .22 by dry-firing (before I knew better) - put a nice divot into the rim that affected chambering and extraction. Knowing that the firing pin is slamming into the rim of the chamber with dry-firing feels like nails on a chalkboard to me. I guess since the manual instructs you to do it, it should be ok, but it still seems sacrilegious.
Special Ed
12-10-2015, 09:28
yeah, that "function" threw me off the first time I took it to the range, glad there's a fix. [Beer]
On another topic, am I the only one bothered by dry-firing a .22? I know the 22/45 has to be dry-fired for disassembly, but it still bugs me. As a youth, I really boogered-up the chamber of a .22 by dry-firing (before I knew better) - put a nice divot into the rim that affected chambering and extraction. Knowing that the firing pin is slamming into the rim of the chamber with dry-firing feels like nails on a chalkboard to me. I guess since the manual instructs you to do it, it should be ok, but it still seems sacrilegious.
You're not alone. Countless people have said you shouldn't dry fire a .22 for the reasons you mention. Yet there are still those who say it isn't a problem as long as you don't overdo it. That said, the NSSF Rimfire Challenge rules specifically state you have to pull the trigger after showing clear. Ummm...this means you have to dry fire your .22 a minimum of 40 times during the course of the match (5 strings on 8 stages). I have to believe that even proponents of dry firing a .22 would agree this is what's meant by overdoing it.
Pulling the trigger to prove a gun is unloaded is just stupid
Slapps74
12-10-2015, 15:09
I have a "chamber iron that I use after a rim fire match to avoid the above issue.
That said, the NSSF Rimfire Challenge rules specifically state you have to pull the trigger after showing clear. Ummm...this means you have to dry fire your .22 a minimum of 40 times during the course of the match (5 strings on 8 stages).
Wrong. You only dry fire at the end of a stage, not a string.
I can not tell you how many times as a kid I tried to shoot the 11th round in a 10 round 10-22 magazine.
Most modern rimfires are not hurt by dry firing.
Pulling the trigger to prove a gun is unloaded is just stupid
Lots of "unloaded" guns go boom.
Lots of "unloaded" guns go boom.
Like at every other gunshow nationwide.
FWIW, I don't have any trouble field stripping or installing upgrades (90% 1911) on the crappy Sig (GSG) 1911-22. :-D
Surprisingly, the damn thing runs pretty reliably too after break in.
Special Ed
12-10-2015, 19:59
Wrong. You only dry fire at the end of a stage, not a string.
I can not tell you how many times as a kid I tried to shoot the 11th round in a 10 round 10-22 magazine.
Most modern rimfires are not hurt by dry firing.
Yup...you got me there. Don't know why I got it wrong after as many times as I've shot that match. Must be the Texas air.
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Lots of "unloaded" guns go boom.
It seems to me that an open action with a visibly empty chamber would be better...
or even a chamber flag
buffalobo
12-10-2015, 21:40
Lots of "unloaded" guns go boom.
Truth.
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Great-Kazoo
12-10-2015, 22:31
yeah, that "function" threw me off the first time I took it to the range, glad there's a fix. [Beer]
On another topic, am I the only one bothered by dry-firing a .22? I know the 22/45 has to be dry-fired for disassembly, but it still bugs me. As a youth, I really boogered-up the chamber of a .22 by dry-firing (before I knew better) - put a nice divot into the rim that affected chambering and extraction. Knowing that the firing pin is slamming into the rim of the chamber with dry-firing feels like nails on a chalkboard to me. I guess since the manual instructs you to do it, it should be ok, but it still seems sacrilegious.
Ride the slide while releasing the trigger. AFTER verifying a few times the chamber is empty.
Lots of "unloaded" guns go boom.
I don't think I've ever heard a range safety officer that has NOT had that happen to them at least once before.
It seems to me that an open action with a visibly empty chamber would be better...
or even a chamber flag
The problem is that people don't like to listen, and/or they grow complacent. They know the drill at the end of each stage and rush through the procedure before the safety officer has a chance to verify. Add in malfunctioning guns and it gets worse. The latest example from a range officer was a guy dropping the mag, racking the slide, then manually dropping the hammer. Guy went to turn around and the range officer said, "Your round never came out."
Guy: "Sure it did, I racked the slide."
RO: "Yeah I saw you, but where's your live round? Better check your chamber."
Guy had a broken extractor and the round was still in the chamber.
Guess I haven't shot mine enough to foul up the inner workings and need to pull my 22/45 or Mark III apart yet. Maybe I will this next year since I plan on shooting them a bit more since I'll be out next to the forest anyway.
I have two of these "fine" pistols. One I've owned since 1990 or so and one that was given to me in 2004. After several attempts to disassemble them I've given up. I don't shoot them much but I am sure they will quite firing at some point. I am a very handy guy, but have given up on these.
StagLefty
12-25-2015, 10:32
^ there's some you tube videos that are very helpful in the re-assembly,which gave me fits the first time.
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