CCW short and sweet info

[Cheapo911]

I just took my "ccw" class (it was more of a basic pistol class) and they really did not cover any of the laws on carry. Where we can and can not carry (government buildings, mountain trails, restaurants/bars), what we can carry (knife, pistol, ect), what types of carry are legal (open vs concealed) and so on. I saw the sticky at the top of the page and started reading through the laws, but it's not the easiest to comprehend and the web sight is really rough and I only found a small section on carry restrictions. Is there a website somewhere or a post someone made in the past that quickly highlights the legality behind carrying? From above you can see the kind of information I'm looking for. Thanks for any help or suggestions.

Oh also forgot, I just moved here from Iowa and applied for my CO permit but am still waiting for it to be processed. Can I still use my Iowa permit to carry if I now have a Colorado ID?

[KS63]

This site is a quick reference for States handgun laws. It's a basic guide and should be taken with a grain of salt. Consult an Attorney as I am not.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/about.htm

[Cheapo911]

This is pretty good, thanks!

[TFOGGER]

As far as your Iowa permit goes, it became invalid as soon as you established Colorado residency.

More info on the authority granted by your permit(when issued by your county of residence) can be found here:


CRS Title 18, Article 12. Part 2 (http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/colorado?source=COLO;CODE&tocpath=1G8HF3QKZC9YJ08IV,2IKCPJHQMOM5AHP0K,3JG1IK VXA6O0OU7DJ;1UQNO57TCEU384AN2,2S0KIZO520NMQHQ17,3F 4HK0NG03MAZUMCT;1UOEYKLG3UPIKESH5,2Q7M2UKQSGOB47MW W,364BI0SA3HP0OKMXJ&shortheader=no)

[Cheapo911]

As far as your Iowa permit goes, it became invalid as soon as you established Colorado residency.

More info on the authority granted by your permit(when issued by your county of residence) can be found here:


CRS Title 18, Article 12. Part 2 (http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/colorado?source=COLO;CODE&tocpath=1G8HF3QKZC9YJ08IV,2IKCPJHQMOM5AHP0K,3JG1IK VXA6O0OU7DJ;1UQNO57TCEU384AN2,2S0KIZO520NMQHQ17,3F 4HK0NG03MAZUMCT;1UOEYKLG3UPIKESH5,2Q7M2UKQSGOB47MW W,364BI0SA3HP0OKMXJ&shortheader=no)

Sigh thats disappointing, but I assumed so. Wish they wouldnt take so freaking long on my CO permit. Thanks.

[Bailey Guns]

It might be helpful for you to post the name of the person(s)/place conducting this "training" so other members have a heads-up not to go there. You can post that info here or in the "Training" forum.

[Cheapo911]

It might be helpful for you to post the name of the person(s)/place conducting this "training" so other members have a heads-up not to go there. You can post that info here or in the "Training" forum.

Actually it was someone recommended to me from other form members here : / And to the guys credit, it was a great class and had tons of range time but it really was a NRA basic pistol class and didnt cover some of the things mentioned above (which worries me because there were far less experienced people in my class who may not be aware to even look into the things I'm wondering about).

[Mazin]

The NRA Basic Pistol is not a CCW class. It meets the state requirements for the CCW but doesn't deal with CCW exclusively.

[Great-Kazoo]

Actually it was someone recommended to me from other form members here : / And to the guys credit, it was a great class and had tons of range time but it really was a NRA basic pistol class and didnt cover some of the things mentioned above (which worries me because there were far less experienced people in my class who may not be aware to even look into the things I'm wondering about).


See mazins reply below. BASIC PISTOL is just that, It covers the Basics of Pistol, nothing more. If anything, had a BP class veer outside the instructional material. it's grounds for said Instructors NRA Certification to be revoked. If you want more training, it will cost you. If you wanted more along the lines of what you mentioned that's considered an Advanced class, by most. When i did classes i touched upon most of the items you mentioned. With the exception of knives, for a "basic" class. I know most instructors here when not teaching a NRA specific class, do the same.


The NRA Basic Pistol is not a CCW class. It meets the state requirements for the CCW but doesn't deal with CCW exclusively.

[Mazin]

That's very true Kazoo.

Any NRA instructor that's is teaching a CCW class that he is calling a NRA course and is not a sanctioned NRA class will be in jeopardy of losing his/her credentials. There was a huge issue with this back in 07/08 when I became an instructor. A lot of instructors out there were a lot of instructors teaching a 2-3hr "CCW" course that they were calling a NRA class.
Now as an instructor I can make my own curriculum but I cannot call it a NRA class. At least your instructor went over where not to carry but I would recommend getting a copy of the Leathal Force law and know it like the back of your hand. Also I would recommend a service like US Law Sheild in case you do become involved in a incident you won't have to come up with 30-40k for a lawyer. Get as much training as you can because the better you look on paper the better your going to look in court. If you want to get some more advanced NRA training look at PPIH and PPOH (personal protection inside the home and personal protection outside the home).

[ChadAmberg]

I wish I could remember whose class I took about 7 years ago, but it was a 3-4 hour specific CCW class. Everything about good and bad holsters, how to carry, where, etc., along with lots of legal questions and scenarios to think about. Look around for a class like that, it wasn't all that expensive (<100$ I think) and was definitely worth it.

[TFOGGER]

I wish I could remember whose class I took about 7 years ago, but it was a 3-4 hour specific CCW class. Everything about good and bad holsters, how to carry, where, etc., along with lots of legal questions and scenarios to think about. Look around for a class like that, it wasn't all that expensive (<100$ I think) and was definitely worth it.

Sounds a lot like the Profire class I took in 2008. Mine was a combined Colorado and Utah class, and ran about 9 hours not including the lunch break. It was designed specifically for people with good basic firearms and safety skills already in place that wanted a CCW course. Anyone that could not demonstrate basic safety skills was required to do another class that included range time before they would sign off on the CCW certificate.

[Cheapo911]

But heres the thing, it was advertised as a CCW class. I called and asked to sigh up for a CCW class, they told me a time, and I showed up. Had it been advertised as an NRA basic pistol class I would have understood. I should also mention that even though this was not geared to be a CCW (however it did have quite a few elements of a CCW class, but it should have included much more. We covered when you can use deadly force for example) it was by no means a half you know what'ed course. 9 hours, and maybe 100 rounds of live fire with many different handguns, and some great instructor work. Again just going back to my main point it only covered ~50% of what should have been covered for CCW.

[Great-Kazoo]

But heres the thing, it was advertised as a CCW class. I called and asked to sigh up for a CCW class, they told me a time, and I showed up. Had it been advertised as an NRA basic pistol class I would have understood. I should also mention that even though this was not geared to be a CCW (however it did have quite a few elements of a CCW class, but it should have included much more. We covered when you can use deadly force for example) it was by no means a half you know what'ed course. 9 hours, and maybe 100 rounds of live fire with many different handguns, and some great instructor work. Again just going back to my main point it only covered ~50% of what should have been covered for CCW.

Next time Read the course outline. If the instructor doesn't tell you or can provide one, that covers what they teach, look elsewhere.

[Cheapo911]

Next time Read the course outline. If the instructor doesn't tell you or can provide one, that covers what they teach, look elsewhere.

Yea I guess, lesson learned.

[Rumline]

Sounds a lot like the Profire class I took in 2008. Mine was a combined Colorado and Utah class, and ran about 9 hours not including the lunch break. It was designed specifically for people with good basic firearms and safety skills already in place that wanted a CCW course.
I found this webpage for them: http://www.profireusa.com/concealed-handgun-course.html Sounds like a good course, thanks for the recommendation.

[esizer]

I found this webpage for them: http://www.profireusa.com/concealed-handgun-course.html Sounds like a good course, thanks for the recommendation.

Another +1 for the profire course. That's where I took my course through, too.

[O2HeN2]

But heres the thing, it was advertised as a CCW class.
The NRA BP class is commonly advertised as meeting the requirements for CCW, which it does.

How was the advert phrased?

O2