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theGinsue
08-04-2009, 22:55
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_club_shooting

Silent gunman's Pa. health club shooting kills 5

By JOE MANDAK, Associated Press Writer Joe Mandak, Associated Press Writer – 26 mins ago
BRIDGEVILLE, Pa. – An armed man strolled to the back of an exercise class at a health club in suburban Pittsburgh on Tuesday night and then pulled out two guns and started spraying bullets, leaving five people dead, including himself, and injuring at least 10 others, police and a hospital said.
"He did not say anything," Allegheny County police Superintendent Charles Moffatt said. "He walked right into the room where the shootings occurred as if he knew exactly where he was going."
The shooting was at the L.A. Fitness Center in Bridgeville, a community of about 5,000 residents not far from downtown Pittsburgh and the Pittsburgh International Airport.
After a burst of bullets, people began screaming and running out of the building, a witness said.
Four people died at the scene, police said. A woman with a chest wound died at St. Clair Hospital, where two other female victims were in stable condition, spokesman Rich Sieber said.
Five victims arrived in critical condition at UPMC Mercy Hospital, and two women were listed in fair condition at Allegheny General Hospital, hospital officials said.
Debi Wozniak, of Dormont, a suburb of Pittsburgh, is a regular at the weekly Latin impact dance exercise class. She was running late Tuesday night and didn't make it, but she said her sister, Joann Gazzam, was in the class.
Gazzam told Wozniak that a man came in through the glass double doors at the exercise room's entrance. He walked to the back of the room near some weights and set down a bag, fumbled with it for a few minutes and came up with what Gazzam said were apparently two guns and began shooting.
Gazzam told Wozniak that several people appeared to be wounded, including the instructor, and that it was apparent that four people were dead and that the gunman had killed himself.
"She told me, 'Debi, I seen everything. Oh, my God, I seen everything. I seen him pull out the guns,'" Wozniak said.
Moffatt said police recovered two guns from the scene. He would not discuss a possible motive for the shooting, whose victims hadn't been identified.
"As you can imagine in a fitness club, they don't have identification on them," he said.
Loretta Moss, 44, of McDonald, said she was exercising on a treadmill when she heard a popping noise.
"I didn't pay any attention, and the next minute, people were screaming," said Moss, who had come to the gym Tuesday night for the first time in a couple of weeks. She said she then heard more pops.
"There was a like a whole spray of them. I'd say about 15 altogether, and then people started screaming and yelling and started running out the building," she said.
"We laid down, and then after the last set of ... gunshots, we got up, and someone said run."
Moss said she then saw two young women bleeding, one in the leg and one shot in the shoulder. She said she checked on the pulse of the lady shot in the leg

"She was screaming, 'It's burning, just please call the ambulance,'" Moss said.
Brad Bolt of Dormont and Phil Fagan of Green Tree, both 20, were working out in a room next to the room where the shooting happened. They both said they heard about a dozen rapidly fired shots and Fagan said a girl came running out of the exercise room, yelling "'Shots fired, call 911, get out.'"
The fitness center, which opened last year, is in a strip mall called the Great Southern Shopping Center, where a few businesses were destroyed in a 2006 fire. It said in a statement: "Each of us in the LA Fitness family are shocked and saddened by the senseless acts of violence that took place."
Allegheny County Chief Executive Dan Onorato, who was out of town on vacation with his family, was briefed by police after the shootings, which he called "an unspeakable tragedy." "I ask everyone to keep those affected by this tragic event in their thoughts and prayers," he said.

sniper7
08-04-2009, 23:34
sad to hear. I wonder what was wrong with the guy. Probably mentally ill yet someone got hold of guns anyways no matter what the loopholes are.

prayers go out to the families.

2008f450
08-05-2009, 08:39
I have always wondered. If these idiots have a list of people they want to kill and his/her name is last on the list. why dont they turn the list upside down and start there. would save the world and all of us gun owners a lot of headaches. Just a thought

Zundfolge
08-05-2009, 08:44
My wife has commented that she thinks its silly that I pack when we go to the gym.

So much for that.

Jer
08-05-2009, 09:27
My wife has commented that she thinks its silly that I pack when we go to the gym.

So much for that.

+1

I always take my gun into the gym and it stays in my bag in a locker but at least it's there.

RIP to the four (assuming the 5th was the shooter) innocent people that lost their lives and my thoughts go out to their family.

sweetm1
08-05-2009, 13:39
The first thing I thought when I saw that was..."uh...I never carry at the gym" Maybe it's time I switch to Zundfolge's method.

jackmode9316
08-05-2009, 13:42
You seriously carry your gun with you while you work out at the gym? Thats odd.

ChunkyMonkey
08-05-2009, 13:53
RIP to the victim.

We have to reverse the mindset that these assholes hurting our cause though. Because of these assholes, there is a need to carry.

Batteriesnare
08-05-2009, 14:38
You seriously carry your gun with you while you work out at the gym? Thats odd.

Carry all the time.

Always.

No excuses.

I'd be there may have been someone there who had a CCW and left their gun at home that day, and it was useless.

RRD3
08-05-2009, 15:17
sad to hear. I wonder what was wrong with the guy. Probably mentally ill yet someone got hold of guns anyways no matter what the loopholes are.

prayers go out to the families.


Wonder no more. His website.


http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm



August 3, 2009:
I took off today, Monday, and tomorrow to practice my routine and make sure it is well polished. I need to work out every detail, there is only one shot. Also I need to be completely immersed into something before I can be successful. I haven't had a drink since Friday at about 2:30. Total effort needed. Tomorrow is the big day.


Unfortunately I talked to my neighbor today, who is very positive and upbeat. I need to remain focused and absorbed COMPLETELY. Last time I tried this, in January, I chickened out. Lets see how this new approach works.


Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.


I will try not to add anymore entries because this computer clicking distracts me.


Also, any of the "Practice Papers" left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.

Batteriesnare
08-05-2009, 15:27
Yikes. So either no one read his postings, or they didn't care.

TFOGGER
08-05-2009, 15:39
Wonder no more. His website.


http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm



August 3, 2009:
I took off today, Monday, and tomorrow to practice my routine and make sure it is well polished. I need to work out every detail, there is only one shot. Also I need to be completely immersed into something before I can be successful. I haven't had a drink since Friday at about 2:30. Total effort needed. Tomorrow is the big day.


Unfortunately I talked to my neighbor today, who is very positive and upbeat. I need to remain focused and absorbed COMPLETELY. Last time I tried this, in January, I chickened out. Lets see how this new approach works.


Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.


I will try not to add anymore entries because this computer clicking distracts me.


Also, any of the "Practice Papers" left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.


So, reading his blog, this was basically about his anger at the world because he was too creepy to get laid? WTF? Didn't anyone who interacted with this whack job on a daily basis pick up the homocidal vibe?

Jer
08-05-2009, 15:43
I love when people site the bible for this sort of monstrosity. Apparently he missed the part of the bible that clearly states that suicide is the only unforgivable sin. Even if he asked for forgiveness for the murders prior to taking his own life there's no way to ask for forgiveness after he takes his own life for killing himself. That's for god to decide so therefore he will never see god as he claims. Enjoy eternal hellfire shit bag!

Batteriesnare
08-05-2009, 15:45
So, reading his blog, this was basically about his anger at the world because he was too creepy to get laid? WTF? Didn't anyone who interacted with this whack job on a daily basis pick up the homocidal vibe?

I agree, there is no way this attitude developed over a short period of time...he even said he tried earlier and pussed out. Where are the people he worked with, went to church with (his post eluded to faith-albeit misguided), or lived next to?

Batteriesnare
08-05-2009, 15:46
Enjoy eternal hellfire shit bag!

Agreed.

Zundfolge
08-05-2009, 17:06
You seriously carry your gun with you while you work out at the gym? Thats odd.
I don't pack my regular piece, but I do have my wife's P3AT in a pocket holster. After reading the story about what happened in PA I fail to see how one would still think packing at the gym is "odd".



I love when people site the bible for this sort of monstrosity. Apparently he missed the part of the bible that clearly states that suicide is the only unforgivable sin.
Actually the only "unforgivable sin" according to the bible is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Otherwise if you're saved before you off yourself you're still saved (of course I'm sure you'll still have to answer for it when you stand before The Lord for judgement).

Using the "you're not going to have a chance to ask for forgiveness for suicide" rule, then ANY sin you forgot to ask for forgiveness for will damn you ... by that standard nobody would make it.


Of course that still doesn't make this guy any less of a schmuck :D

Irving
08-05-2009, 18:02
Moss said she then saw two young women bleeding, one in the leg and one shot in the shoulder. She said she checked on the pulse of the lady shot in the leg

"She was screaming, 'It's burning, just please call the ambulance,'" Moss said.

I would have been yelling, "I'm obviously alive you dumb fuck!!!!"

hobowh
08-05-2009, 19:50
I would have been yelling, "I'm obviously alive you dumb fuck!!!!"

+1