Delta airlines, first US carrier to ban transport of African big game

[Yota]

Apparently Delta has been getting an earful and caved in.

The US airline Delta has banned the shipment of big game trophies on its flights following the international outcry over the illegal killing of Cecil the lion in Zimbabwe.
The airline has announced that it will no longer transport lion, rhinoceros, leopard, elephant or buffalo remains.

It has not however given an official reason for its decision.

Delta flies direct to a number of African cities and was subjected to an online petition to ban such shipments.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33767771



dang, wish I could fix that typo in the thread title, moderators?

[sellersm]

The US airline Delta has banned the shipment of <snip> or buffalo remains.

I guess the Demo Libtards will have to choose a different carrier...

[Bailey Guns]

I FEEL better already.

[Great-Kazoo]

Political correctness once again runs a muck.

#1 Confederate Flag

#2 Ban on animal culling

#3 ??? OOPS (White) LE 's or should it be #1

[Irving]

Delta airlines uses ivory tray tables on the back of every seat.

[TriggerHappy]

I used them to Fly to Jberg in March. There were an awful lot of us 'Hunters" on that flight. Curious to see if they can fill those seats. its strange that they named the Big 5 of Africa. Hopefully this doesn't fuck me in getting my Gemsbok, Blesbuck, Wildebeest, and Nyala back. F*cking uneducated liberals.

[patrick0685]

I used them to Fly to Jberg in March. There were an awful lot of us 'Hunters" on that flight. Curious to see if they can fill those seats. its strange that they named the Big 5 of Africa. Hopefully this doesn't fuck me in getting my Gemsbok, Blesbuck, Wildebeest, and Nyala back. F*cking uneducated liberals.
no joke...i hope they get boycotted real quick and change their minds

[sniper7]

Killing business for the sake of feeling like they are going to accomplish something. Now the shipping will go to other carriers along with that $$$. Nice move delta.

[Aloha_Shooter]

While I appreciate defense of the lions, leopards, elephants, and rhinos, the last time I checked, water buffalo were nowhere near endangered. I'd blame stupid liberals but that's redundant.

[sellersm]

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[sniper7]

I'm glad Cecil is dead, he was a killer.

#zebralivesmatter

[sellersm]

I'm glad Cecil is dead, he was a killer.

#zebralivesmatter

[LOL]

[TRnCO]

I wonder just what all these do gooder save the animal people do to actually save any animals. I'll bet a $100. to a box of donuts that the fees hunters pay to hunt does a hell of a lot more to saving animals than any other group around. Hunters are simply the true "conservatives" when it comes to saving animals of all shapes and sizes, including lion, tigers, and bears, oh my. Ban hunting on the big five and watch as poaching takes them out.

[Gman]

Can't happen. Poaching is illegal.





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[Aloha_Shooter]

I'm glad Cecil is dead, he was a killer.

#zebralivesmatter


I wonder just what all these do gooder save the animal people do to actually save any animals. I'll bet a $100. to a box of donuts that the fees hunters pay to hunt does a hell of a lot more to saving animals than any other group around. Hunters are simply the true "conservatives" when it comes to saving animals of all shapes and sizes, including lion, tigers, and bears, oh my. Ban hunting on the big five and watch as poaching takes them out.

I won't go that far. If the dentist and his pro hunter did in fact knowingly lure him out of a sanctuary area just so the dentist could mount a bigger trophy, they are both scum. I just despise the knee-jerk reaction this embodies, especially since one of the Big 5 isn't even endangered.

[Big E3]

I'm glad Cecil is dead, he was a killer.

#zebralivesmatter

I like totally agree

#Impalasarepeopletoo

[Yota]

Killing business for the sake of feeling like they are going to accomplish something. Now the shipping will go to other carriers along with that $$$. Nice move delta.


Unfortunately it looks like United and American joined the ban. See updated link. Another article said Air Canada joined.

United said: "We felt it made sense to do so."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33767771

Yesterday I wrote this to Delta using their online feedback form and requested a reply.

This is what I sent:

Message: I have just learned Delta has banned the transport of legally
hunted animals from Africa. Big game hunting is an effective and
sometimes the only effective way of controlling dangerous animals.
Hunting also keeps a sustainable predator/prey balance. The fees hunters
pay inject needed money into mostly lagging economies and depending on
the game animal may provide a bounty of meat to local villages. I have
never hunted in Africa but I am truly disappointed in this knee jerk
reaction and will try to avoid flying Delta from now on.

and I got this email reply.

RE: Case Number 16924023

Thank you for your email to Delta Air Lines expressing your
disappointment towards banned the transport of legally hunted animals.
regret the delay in responding to your concern.

Delta has banned the shipment of all lion, leopard, elephant, rhinoceros
and buffalo trophies worldwide as freight. Prior to this ban, Delta's
strict acceptance policy called for absolute compliance with all
government regulations regarding protected species. Delta will also
review the acceptance policies for other hunting trophies with the
appropriate government agencies and other organizations that support
legal shipments.

We value customer feedback and appreciate you taking the time to contact
us. We understand your feelings surrounding this issue, and we are
grateful you took the time to let us know how our actions have been
perceived. Your concerns have been reported to the appropriate
leadership for internal review.

We appreciate your selection of Delta and will always welcome the
opportunity to be of service.

Sincerely,

Sam Matthews
Online Customer Support Desk
http://www.delta.com (http://www.delta.com/)

[TRnCO]

next on the list, ban transport of grizzly, moose, caribou, sheep, goat, etc. etc. .....coming to your corner of the world soon.

[Firehaus]

I'm glad Cecil is dead, he was a killer.

#zebralivesmatter

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[sniper7]

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There it is! I saw it once and couldn't find it. The picture is much more dramatic!

[davsel]

UPS says they will be happy to continue shipping trophies.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/230834-ups-to-heck-with-political-correctness-and-controversy-will-still-ship-trophy-animals/

[Yota]

UPS says they will be happy to continue shipping trophies.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/230834-ups-to-heck-with-political-correctness-and-controversy-will-still-ship-trophy-animals/


That's awesome, good for them.

Saw this on that site.

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[buffalobo]

Good article for social media folks to pass around and debunk anti hunting propaganda.


http://huntinglife.com/cecils-legacy-its-not-about-you-it-is-about-africa/


Cecil’s Legacy: It’s Not About You, It is About Africa (http://huntinglife.com/cecils-legacy-its-not-about-you-it-is-about-africa/)

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by Catherine Semcer (http://huntinglife.com/author/huntinglifecate/) - Aug 5, 2015
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Animal rights activists have turned the killing of a male lion outside of Zimbabwe’s Hwange National Park into an effective piece of propaganda in their crusade to end all hunting. Naming the lion “Cecil,” the activists have used the incident to focus public attention on trophy hunting in Africa while spreading misinformation on social media and in the press. This kind of information warfare is intended to create a political environment where substantive anti-hunting policy goals can be achieved.
To date, the activists are winning. In the days since the lions of Zimbabwe captured global attention, a group of Democrat Senators, led by Sen. Robert Menendez, who is facing trial on corruption charges, introduced legislation that would prohibit US citizens from importing legally acquired trophies of species merely being considered for listing under the Endangered Species Act. If it were to become law, this legislation would throw a monkey wrench into longstanding, science based hunting programs across Africa that operate under the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), a treaty to which the US is a party. Under the bill, Congress would empower animal rights activists to implement their agenda on an international scale and in the absence of the science and rigorous debate that generally goes into deciding whether or not to list a species under the ESA. A press release issued by Senator Menendez stated that the goal of the legislation is to “disincentivize” American citizens from hunting in Africa, an objective that if realized, would have potentially disastrous social consequences.
To make matters worse, on August 3 Delta and United Airlines both announced that legally taken African hunting trophies would no longer be welcome on their flights. The companies freight embargoes came in response to a petition initiated by the Brooklyn based, left wing organization SUMOFUS, which claims to work to “hold corporations accountable for their actions and forge a new, sustainable and just path for our global economy.” Meanwhile, just a month earlier, the 2 most recent Secretaries General of CITES wrote the United Nations Environment Program to warn that these activist incited embargoes
“…damage international cooperation on wildlife trade and thereby make effective conservation more difficult to accomplish.”
And that
“…the pressure being applied on airline executives is obscuring the reality that, by eliminating
the transportation of legally acquired wildlife specimens, livelihoods in the developing world
will be destroyed and targeted species could be negatively impacted.”
How can expert warnings like these be so readily ignored by politicians, airline executives, the press and the activists themselves? Moreover, with further limits on trophy hunting likely to have devastating economic and social impacts on rural African communities why are these impacts not being highlighted more in the current conversations on social media and in the press? Why is the focus strictly on African wildlife species that are not even in imminent threat of extinction?
The perhaps uncomfortable truth is that elite Westerners, as a group, expect African people to live lives of hardship and then die. Their doing so is part of “the plan” that the Joker so eloquently described to Harvey Dent in his hospital bed. It is evident in the priorities of activist petitions, in the imagery activists use to illustrate Africa and in their near complete antipathy to delivering wildlife conservation through sustainable use and development. In the eyes of animal rights extremists, Africans are either part of the problem or part of the scenery, at best there to provide a “cultural experience” on the next voyeuristic photo safari.
African wildlife on the other hand is supposed to live, unmolested, in order to provide for the activist class’ ongoing moral satisfaction and entertainment, like they do on NatGeo. That they might die at the hands of a hunter is not part of the plan embraced by an elite who cannot see past their own self righteousness. Even if that animal’s death might help fund anti-poaching units, provide jobs and food for local people and give Africans some sense of control over their own natural resources. No, because for the activists, Africans do not matter. Two thousand people can be killed in a single attack by Boko Haram and hardly anyone bats an eye. One lion is killed by a hunter and everyone loses their minds.
But African lives do matter, and that truth must become part of the conversation on trophy hunting. When Western activists, who have all of their basic needs met, call for an end to trophy hunting, it should be heard as a call for a job to be taken away from a rural African. A job as a driver, a skinner, a tracker, a cook, a job that gives his family not just a chance to get by, but also get ahead and maybe stay ahead of the multitude of hardships facing people on the continent. In South Africa, hunting has directly created a minimum of 6,000 jobs (http://www.africanwildlifeconservationfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Economic-and-conservation-significance.pdf) in areas of low employment and in the Eastern Cape Province increased the average wage 5.7 times (https://www.econbiz.de/Record/the-south-african-hunting-industry-opportunities-and-challenges-radder-laetitia/10003631553). In Tanzania, hunting has created another 4,300 jobs in rural areas where work is hard to find. This pattern is repeated across the continent and would be undone if the activists have their way.
When a radical organization calls for an end to trophy hunting it should be heard as a call to deprive rural Africans of food. In Zambia, for example, peer reviewed research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4334497/) has shown that trophy hunting operations provide rural residents with 129,771 kg of fresh, organic game meat each year, enough to feed 519,084 people (https://firstforwildlife.wordpress.com/2015/03/10/issue-of-the-week-hunting-provides-daily-protein-requirements-to-rural-zambians/). As reported by the Campaign on Accelerated Reduction of Maternal Newborn and Child Mortality in Africa (http://www.carmma.org/update/socio-economic-impact-child-malnutrition-africa), these kinds of solutions to malnutrition improve children’s ability to be educated, which in turn improve Africa’s ability to be competitive and innovative in the global economy. If trophy hunting is banned, as the radicals want, African children face a harder future than they do already.
When a call is issued to end trophy hunting it should be heard as a call to convert wildlife habitat to farmland and push healthy populations of African wildlife closer to extinction. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, habitat loss is one of the primary threats to the survival of the African lion. Trophy hunting is not even on the list. In Kenya, where trophy hunting has been banned since 1977, the lion population has decreased by 87% over the past 15 years as lands are converted to crops and pasture which are more economically competitive uses than the wildlife habitat from which people are prohibited from making a living. Should the petitions and the email appeals to ban trophy hunting gain more political currency, this conservation disaster will be repeated across Africa.
Finally, calls to end trophy hunting should be heard as a call to increase poaching of species like elephants and rhinoceros whose tusks and horns have value on an international black market. From Cameroon to Mozambique, trophy hunting outfitters and their clients are financially supporting anti-poaching units who are succeeding in conserving the continent’s wildlife where activists are failing. For example, in Mozambique’s Coutada 11, which is managed primarily for hunting, Zambeze Delta Safaris’ anti-poaching unit has established the area as the only place to see a net increase in elephant numbers during last year’s national elephant census. Meanwhile, in places like Kenya’s Tsavo West National Park, where there is no hunting and little economic incentive to conserve wildlife, poachers continue to decimate elephant herds (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/07/29/as-the-world-mourned-cecil-the-lion-five-of-kenyas-endangered-elephants-were-slain/).
When confronted with these facts animal rights activists inevitably talk about intrinsic worth and misuse ideas like ecological value. It should be recognized that these are the values of people who have a steady income, a quiet neighborhood and a car to put bumper stickers on. It should be recognized that theirs is a value system of the privileged. Like the privileged before them who colonized Africa, today’s animal rights activists are seeking to deny Africans the ability to benefit from their natural resources and the bans on shipping and importation they are inciting have the same impact as stealing those resources outright. Simply stated, ending trophy hunting is not social justice, it is theft.
It is a good thing that wildlife continues to inspire so much emotion in people. That means it still matters and that means there is still a chance to conserve it. Trophy hunting however is ultimately not about “you,” or your feelings. It is about Africans doing the best they can, with what they have, to build a better life for the next generation. Twenty three African nations have decided that trophy hunting is one of the best options they have to create economic opportunity for their people while at the same time conserving wildlife, and they are generally succeeding at doing both. It is not for people in New York, San Francisco or Washington, DC to decide they should do otherwise.


Safeguarding Africa’s wildlife requires meeting the material needs of Africa’s people. At Humanitarian Operations Protecting Elephants (H.O.P.E.) we integrate sustainable use and economic development into the front end of our anti-poaching work; partly because it is a tactic with a successful track record, but also because we believe it is the right thing to do. To learn more and find out how you can support H.O.P.E.’s efforts please visit www.hopeantipoaching.org (http://www.hopeantipoaching.org/)
http://huntinglife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Semcer_Photo-150x150.jpg (http://huntinglife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Semcer_Photo.jpg)Catherine Semcer is a hunter and Chief Operating Officer of Humanitarian Operations Protecting Elephants (H.O.P.E.) a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that provides training, advisory, assistance and procurement services to African anti-poaching units. Utilizing a core team of service providers drawn from veterans of U.S. special operations forces, H.O.P.E. also leverages decades of professional experience in humanitarian efforts, wildlife conservation, international relations and communications to provide a turn key solution to Africa’s poaching crisis.
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[Dave]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34508269

No charges for Walter Palmer, apparently all paperwork was filed correctly.

[Aloha_Shooter]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34508269

No charges for Walter Palmer, apparently all paperwork was filed correctly.

As if liberals (particularly anti-gunners) would ever let a little thing like facts and laws get in the way of their agenda ...

[PugnacAutMortem]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34508269

No charges for Walter Palmer, apparently all paperwork was filed correctly.

I wouldn't mind 5 minutes alone with the parents of that little girl holding the sign in that picture in the article. That little girl should be riding a bike or playing with toys, not out protesting.

[Gunner]

I wouldn't mind 5 minutes alone with the parents of that little girl holding the sign in that picture in the article. That little girl should be riding a bike or playing with toys, not out protesting.
Guess parents like to start them young now

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