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So, just thought I'd toss this out there.
If any of you have been thinking about trying your hand at IDPA but lack the necessary equipment to do so, I'd be happy to help you out.
I can loan you a suitable firearm, magazines, holster, etc.
All you need to do is show up at Colorado Rifle Club next Saturday for the match, bring your $20 match fee, and 100 rounds of 9mm.
You will need to have about a 32" to36" waist if you want to use one of my belts.
Anyhow, it's always a good time and the match is really friendly towards new shooters.
So, if lack of equipment has been holding you back, shoot me a PM and I'd be happy to hook you up for the match next weekend.
If you're a new shooter, you'll need to show up early and be registered by 8:15am and be present for the 8:30am New Shooters Meeting.
buffalobo
08-16-2015, 16:43
So, just thought I'd toss this out there.
If any of you have been thinking about trying your hand at IDPA but lack the necessary equipment to do so, I'd be happy to help you out.
I can loan you a suitable firearm, magazines, holster, etc.
All you need to do is show up at Colorado Rifle Club next Saturday for the match, bring your $20 match fee, and 100 rounds of 9mm.
You will need to have about a 32" to36" waist if you want to use one of my belts.
Anyhow, it's always a good time and the match is really friendly towards new shooters.
So, if lack of equipment has been holding you back, shoot me a PM and I'd be happy to hook you up for the match next weekend.
Great gesture ray, good on you.
I will make the same offer to any first time IDPA participant. Show up early for setup and match is only $15.
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Looks like the match this Saturday is a go out at CRC.
My offer still stands.
What kind of firearm will you be providing, out of curiosity?
What kind of firearm will you be providing, out of curiosity?
A Glock of some sort. I'd probably let the shooter pick between a 19, 34, or a 26 depending on what they felt most comfortable with.
I think that's the kind of gun I'd want to start with. Good choice.
Rooskibar03
08-18-2015, 09:44
Too bad they run the match on a Saturday. I'd be down to try something new. How much different from USPSA is it?
I've only ever shot a single USPSA match. Major difference is that there are rules and procedures to follow in IDPA for each stage. For the most part, people end up shooting each stage the same way. I personally don't really find air gunning to be necessary in IDPA, and it's not really allowed anyway. IDPA stages often dictate when, where, and how to reload, but not always. Bringing the speed of USPSA shooting into IDPA is definitely an advantage.
GlockMathews
08-18-2015, 10:22
They have matches in the springs the 3rd Sunday of the month too
How much different from USPSA is it?
Lower round counts by a little, a little slower, accuracy more important than speed, more directives as to how to shoot the course, athletic ability less of a factor.
All trigger time is good time. Some people prefer one over the other, but both are still games that enhance your weapon handling and shooting skills.
I've yet to see accuracy win any IDPA matches. Accuracy is great, as long as your raw time is as low as possible.
I've yet to see accuracy win any IDPA matches. Accuracy is great, as long as your raw time is as low as possible.
I just said it is more important in IDPA than USPSA.
Well that just makes me want to shoot another USPSA match!
Well that just makes me want to shoot another USPSA match!
If you want to really dismiss accuracy on paper, shoot 3Gun. :)
That's the one where the fastest shotgun reloader wins right?
That's the one where the fastest shotgun reloader wins right?
Not anymore. Pistol has become more technical and patience on the longer rifle shots. Shotgun loading not as big a deal since we brought TWinS loading to the USA about 4 years ago.
BUT, Kudos to Ray. Exactly the kind of people we need to introduce more people to competitive shooting.
DocMedic
08-18-2015, 16:08
That's the one where the fastest shotgun reloader wins right?
That was true maybe 3 or 4 years ago when only a handful of people could load 8 shells in 6 secs when the average was around 12 secs Or more, with new loading methods even a untrained shooter can get 8 in 8 in a few hours of training. Not a lot of shotgun arrays will need you to load faster then that to get to the next set of targets.
So, had a great time at the match today as usual. Waiting to see the results to see how my strategy of "shoot fast and miss a lot" worked out for me. Lol.
Oh, and I just wanted to thank all of the guys from the forums here who made it out today. Always a good time when you get to shoot with familiar people.
[Awesom]
Really glad to see everyone and all be on the same squad.
Really glad to see everyone and all be on the same squad.
You'd be on the "cool kid" squad more often if you would get there a little earlier.
[Coffee]
OtterbatHellcat
08-22-2015, 16:32
So, had a great time at the match today as usual. Waiting to see the results to see how my strategy of "shoot fast and miss a lot" worked out for me. Lol.
Oh, and I just wanted to thank all of the guys from the forums here who made it out today. Always a good time when you get to shoot with familiar people.
[Awesom]
Yep, it was cool seeing you guys today, some great shooting happened, and I also shot today...ha ha. Also, everyone was being really cool to my guest today, she was very complimentary about the event, the people, and found the experience very educational.
Thanks guys.
Your "guest" needs to start shooting with us. When she's ready of course.
[Awesom]
Not_A_Llama
08-22-2015, 16:42
I'll extend the same offer as Ray, with a Glock 23 or 34 (40 or 9mm), if anyone wants to try it out next month, or at FRIDPA.
Nice shooting with y'all again.
Working every Saturday is a bitch.
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OtterbatHellcat
08-22-2015, 22:12
Well hell....I also have equipment to loan for interested shooting enthusiasts.
Rooskibar03
08-22-2015, 22:48
Can someone loan me a free Saturday.
It was good shooting with everyone today.
Here are all the stages except Stage 1 where I forgot to turn on the camera.sPH4h0cwUt4
Can someone loan me a free Saturday.
Oh, hell yeah. I'll show up at your place of employment and we can take a test drive for about six hours. We'd look pretty good rolling up to the range in something off the lot.
The video turned out great. Thanks for posting it up.
buffalobo
08-23-2015, 07:18
The video turned out great. Thanks for posting it up.
+1, somebody send that RO to the gym.
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buffalobo
08-23-2015, 07:38
Did you see the cool t-shirt the fat guy RO was wearing?
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+1, somebody send that RO to the gym.
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I thought the range was your gym? Running around, kneeling down (sort of), walking all over the place, etc.
buffalobo
08-23-2015, 07:58
That would explain stiff and sore today, along with the three hours of yard work after the match.
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OtterbatHellcat
08-23-2015, 08:59
Did you see the cool t-shirt the fat guy RO was wearing?
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Yes.....groovy.
Irving, great video Man. I need to get one of those go pro gizmos.
Yes.....groovy.
Irving, great video Man. I need to get one of those go pro gizmos.
I'm going to pick up a Gopro today. Been wanting one for a while. Wife always told me to get one because she knows I'd use it. I'll probably bring it out to the next match but I'll also do other stuff with it as well. Would have been nice to have it at Sturgis a few weeks ago. I'm sure I'll use it next time I'm in Hawaii, probably do videos on our ATV rides up in the mountains, strap it to the motorcycle from time to time, and probably do some video in a couple of weeks when my brother is going to be around playing a gig with Jimmy Vaughn up at Copper Mountain.
Thought about brining it hunting, but only if I can turn off the beeps. Also, if I forget to turn it off at matches, I can only imagine it'd be the last thing on my mind while hunting.
Before I forget, opinions on showing the scoring after each stage? Those time I filmed it are mostlynwhen I forgot to turn the camera off, but I feel like it gives more information and fleshes out the video. Thoughts?
I say definitely show the scoring.
Buffalobo, see if this video is helpful to you at all.
https://youtu.be/kUPcUnZHo7g
buffalobo
08-23-2015, 10:13
If I used it as training aid then I would also film scoring. Easier to relate movements/actions to results on targets.
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Hey guys, here is Mike's video from yesterday as well. He was on a different squad and remembered to film all five stages. He was shooting the same gun as me (M&P40c). Him and I shoot pretty close to the same (even at the bowling pin matches) so it will be interesting to see the scores.
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Vanniek71
08-23-2015, 15:48
Great offer for new shooters. I'd even be willing to set up a stage out there on an off weekend and run people through it and give tips and pointers.
Great offer for new shooters. I'd even be willing to set up a stage out there on an off weekend and run people through it and give tips and pointers.
Very cool of you to offer. [Awesom]
Rooskibar03
08-23-2015, 16:54
Question. Are you required to run gun dry before reload? Noticed both videos reloads were on an empty chamber.
You usually shoot till dry, unless otherwise directed. You don't have to go to slide lock. I suppose if you can keep track in your head you can load the round before. At least two times in my video I'm resting my thumb on the slide release and it is not locking back. I think that probably cost me a second each.
Vanniek71
08-23-2015, 17:09
Question. Are you required to run gun dry before reload? Noticed both videos reloads were on an empty chamber.
Yes and no.
Yes if you want to drop your mag on the ground. No if you retain the mag that has ammunition in it still. To drop the mag on the ground you have to run the gun empty before you drop the mag as well. So if you had one in the chamber, dropped mag and then reloaded (even though the mag on the ground is empty) you would be assessed a penalty.
Vanniek71
08-23-2015, 17:10
You usually shoot till dry, unless otherwise directed. You don't have to go to slide lock. I suppose if you can keep track in your head you can load the round before. At least two times in my video I'm resting my thumb on the slide release and it is not locking back. I think that probably cost me a second each.
They changed that rule. You have to be at slide lock or empty chamber before you reload.
They changed that rule. You have to be at slide lock or empty chamber before you reload.
Noted. I do remember that now that you say that.
Rooskibar03
08-23-2015, 17:31
They changed that rule. You have to be at slide lock or empty chamber before you reload.
Is everyone running the same number of rounds in a magazine also? Is this supposed to be like stock car racing where all the equipment is the same and performance is based on how you handle it? Seems counter productive to run a gun dry during a competition, but if that's the rule so be it.
DenverGP
08-23-2015, 17:40
They changed that rule. You have to be at slide lock or empty chamber before you reload.
Can you point me to the IDPA rules that show that? The ones I'm seeing at IDPA.com still list the tactical reload
3.4.2 Loaded Cylinder/Loaded Chamber Reload (also known as a Tactical Reload or Reload with Retention)Loaded Chamber/Loaded Cylinder Reload – reload the firearm when it is partially loaded while retainingany live ammunition removed from the firearm and/or the magazine that came out of the firearm even ifthe magazine is empty
Vanniek71
08-23-2015, 17:59
Is everyone running the same number of rounds in a magazine also? Is this supposed to be like stock car racing where all the equipment is the same and performance is based on how you handle it? Seems counter productive to run a gun dry during a competition, but if that's the rule so be it.
Depends on what division you are shooting. 10rds is the max in any division but there is a new CCP division where you can only load to 8.
Vanniek71
08-23-2015, 18:05
Can you point me to the IDPA rules that show that? The ones I'm seeing at IDPA.com still list the tactical reload
Yes the Tactical Reload can be initiated if you retain the magazine. I was speaking of an Emergency reload or slide lock reload
3.4.1 Slide Lock/Empty Cylinder Reload (also known as an Emergency Reload)
Slide Lock/ Empty Cylinder Reload – recharge the firearm when it is empty and/or out of live ammo.
Where the chamber needing to be empty comes in to play is
3.4.5 A firearm is deemed empty when there is no live ammunition in the chamber or magazine for semi - autos and no live ammunition in the cylinder for revolvers.
DenverGP
08-23-2015, 18:10
I see... the tactical (with retention) reload needs to be done whenever the gun has a round in it. So even if the mag is empty, you need to retain the mag if you have a round in the chamber.
Thanks for the clarification.
Vanniek71
08-23-2015, 18:11
Yeah, some of the rules are pretty silly but that's the game we play I guess!
buffalobo
08-23-2015, 18:21
Is everyone running the same number of rounds in a magazine also? Is this supposed to be like stock car racing where all the equipment is the same and performance is based on how you handle it? Seems counter productive to run a gun dry during a competition, but if that's the rule so be it.
All stages loaded to division capacity, unless specified different in course of fire.
6 (7 for local matches) different divisions.
One of the founding principles of IDPA was to test the individuals skill in competition, not the equipment.
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I think two factors were involved with the ten round limit when IDPA was introduced. First, IPSC/USPSA had gotten to the point where if you didn't have several thousands of dollars into your equipment it was difficult to be competitive. Second, the infamous 1994 ban was put in place that limited magazine capacity to ten rounds. Pre-ban mags could be difficult to come by and were pretty expensive so making the competition easy and affordable for new shooters to get into was a plus.
I like the fact that you can show up to a match with a bone stock handgun, three magazines, and a hundred rounds of ammunition and be competitive.
While IDPA lets me work on my shooting fundamentals and basic firearm handling skills, it's still just a game with rules like any other game or sport.
I like the fact that you can show up to a match with a bone stock handgun, three magazines, and a hundred rounds of ammunition and be competitive.
One of the founding principles of IDPA was to test the individuals skill in competition, not the equipment.
Hmmmm.
My USPSA Single Stack division and IDPA CDP division gun/gear are identical. Same for USPSA Production and IDPA SSP.
My CDP is a STI Trojan in 45 and SSP is a Glock 17 or Steyr M9.
Hmmmm.
My USPSA Single Stack division and IDPA CDP division gun/gear are identical. Same for USPSA Production and IDPA SSP.
My CDP is a STI Trojan in 45 and SSP is a Glock 17 or Steyr M9.
I'd have to check my calendar, but I don't think there was a single stack division or a production class back when IDPA was introduced.
But, I see your point. There are USPSA divisions now that make it easier for those on a budget to compete. Wasn't really the case back in the day though.
[Beer]
There were two USPSA divisions back in the day. Open/Unlimited and Limited/Tactical. There was a Carry gun division for a while but it never took off. Actually there was one division for a long time. Just a heads up shooting match. Pick your poison and shoot it.
Production came out about 15 years ago and single stack has been around for a while also.
IDPA and IPSC are both good ways to get better at shooting under stress. Neither can replace actual training and neither should be viewed as real world training.
Do you get extra points for shooting the fingers off the black hands in the No Shoot targets.............. [UZI]
Do you get extra points for shooting the fingers off the black hands in the No Shoot targets.............. [UZI]
Come on... Surely you've heard... HANDS UP = DON'T SHOOT!!!
[Coffee]
buffalobo
08-24-2015, 14:58
Do you get extra points for shooting the fingers off the black hands in the No Shoot targets.............. [UZI]
That's just mean. You might be fast enough to make up for all the penalties but most of us are not.
Especially now that rule has changed from only one penalty per no shoot to each hit on no shoot.
Damn things are like magnets.[emoji33] [emoji24]
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I am just having some fun. Its cool that you guys are getting more people involved in the Practical Shooting sports!!! Have fun and be safe.
buffalobo
08-24-2015, 16:30
I am just having some fun. Its cool that you guys are getting more people involved in the Practical Shooting sports!!! Have fun and be safe.
Training them up so they are ready to play run n gun.
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OtterbatHellcat
08-24-2015, 16:37
I'm going to pick up a Gopro today. Been wanting one for a while. Wife always told me to get one because she knows I'd use it. I'll probably bring it out to the next match but I'll also do other stuff with it as well. Would have been nice to have it at Sturgis a few weeks ago. I'm sure I'll use it next time I'm in Hawaii, probably do videos on our ATV rides up in the mountains, strap it to the motorcycle from time to time, and probably do some video in a couple of weeks when my brother is going to be around playing a gig with Jimmy Vaughn up at Copper Mountain.
I still need to do some research on which one to get, but I also have multiple uses for the little gizmo.
Before I forget, opinions on showing the scoring after each stage? Those time I filmed it are mostlynwhen I forgot to turn the camera off, but I feel like it gives more information and fleshes out the video. Thoughts?
I liked it, just sayin.
Great offer for new shooters. I'd even be willing to set up a stage out there on an off weekend and run people through it and give tips and pointers.
That's really cool, thanks. I was a little bit freaked out the first time I did it, I think that could really help some folks who are looking to get into it. I also understand your time is just as important to you. Lets see how many folks chime in about it I suppose?
I was asked a question from Saturday however, and I'll ask it here now. I think it was stage 5 when the wind was blowing shit all over the place? Mags on one barrel, weapon on other barrel. Begin the stage *kneeling*. If a five foot tall individual knelt at that stage, they couldn't see over the top at all....would the shooter then have to go around the sides of the barrel per kneeling start spec, or could they have stand/crouched for over the top target acquisition? I know there was a child there who was about that tall, how did he start that stage?
Thanks
OtterbatHellcat
08-24-2015, 16:40
I also had the benefit of having Lobo spend some time with me and explain a bunch of stuff ahead of time, so, thanks again for that...Lobo.
I still appreciate it.
buffalobo
08-24-2015, 16:57
I still need to do some research on which one to get, but I also have multiple uses for the little gizmo.
I liked it, just sayin.
That's really cool, thanks. I was a little bit freaked out the first time I did it, I think that could really help some folks who are looking to get into it. I also understand your time is just as important to you. Lets see how many folks chime in about it I suppose?
I was asked a question from Saturday however, and I'll ask it here now. I think it was stage 5 when the wind was blowing shit all over the place? Mags on one barrel, weapon on other barrel. Begin the stage *kneeling*. If a five foot tall individual knelt at that stage, they couldn't see over the top at all....would the shooter then have to go around the sides of the barrel per kneeling start spec, or could they have stand/crouched for over the top target acquisition? I know there was a child there who was about that tall, how did he start that stage?
Thanks
Short people got no reason......
to worry, we can make accommodations. As long a cover rules are followed (all lower and 50% upper), crouch, squat, kneel on platform, stand if short enough, all ok.
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OtterbatHellcat
08-24-2015, 17:01
Okay, thanks... :D
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