View Full Version : House Passes Amendment to let CMP Sell WWII Surplus 1911s
wctriumph
08-24-2015, 06:18
Here is a link:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/house-passes-amendment-to-sell-army-surplus-1911s-to-public/
HOUSE PASSES AMENDMENT TO SELL ARMY SURPLUS 1911S TO PUBLICby S.H. BLANNELBERRY on AUGUST 21, 2015
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An amendment to the upcoming National Defense Authorization Act may soon empower the Civilian Marksmanship Program (https://thecmp.org/) to publicly sell the Army’s massive 1911 stockpile.
Rep. Mike Rogers’ (R-Alabama) amendment was passed by the House Armed Service Committee, meaning the World War II-era handguns could potentially be handed off to the CMP to be parceled out to anyone willing to pay for a piece of history.
“As a gun owner and strong believer in the Second Amendment, my proposal is a commonsense approach to eliminating an unnecessary cost to the Federal government while allowing the very capable CMP to handle the sale of these vintage firearms that otherwise would just sit in storage,” said Rogers.
The CMP’s firearms reserve is dwindling, but it gets an injection of roughly 100,000 highly-collectable military surplus handguns, the organization can continue promoting firearms safety training and rifle practice for years to come.
“Not only is this an organization that is committed to training civilians in the proper, responsible, and safe use of firearms, but at a cost of roughly $2.00 per pistol per year to store these weapons, we were spending $200,00 a year in perpetuity,” said Rep. Steve Russell, R-Oklahoma, who voted for the successful amendment. “This sensible change will save the taxpayers millions over the years to come, as well as aid a great organization that serves the public.”
The NDA Act will likely come to the House floor this May.
Bailey Guns
08-24-2015, 06:18
Always wanted a war-era 1911 but couldn't afford the price? They may be getting much more affordable. This was passed by the House...let's see what happens in the Senate:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/house-passes-amendment-to-sell-army-surplus-1911s-to-public/
Bailey Guns
08-24-2015, 06:20
Ooops...looks like WC beat me by a few seconds on this.
Awesome news! Hopefully this comes to fruition and we can enjoy some awesome history
buffalobo
08-24-2015, 07:11
Repost, soon to be merged.
Merged.
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Not gonna hold my breath..... They won't allow the Garands and Carbines to come back from Korea because they think we'll run wild with them, robbing and killing. Think they're gonna let us buy cheap handguns? Military handguns that were made for killing? Color me skeptical.
Not gonna hold my breath..... They won't allow the Garands and Carbines to come back from Korea because they think we'll run wild with them, robbing and killing. Think they're gonna let us buy cheap handguns? Military handguns that were made for killing? Color me skeptical.
haha sounds about like the liberal thought process, but they must have forgotten these are antiques that can only hold 8 rounds, so they're actually twice as safe as all of those scary modern handguns folks already own.
kidicarus13
10-13-2015, 17:28
The legislation allowing the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) to receive surplus 1911 pistols from the U.S. military and sell them to qualified U.S. citizens has passed both the House and Senate, according to CMP Chief Operating Officer Mark Johnson.
The post that appeared on the CMP’s Facebook page about two hours ago reads:
“An update on the 1911’s…IT HAS PASSED THE SENATE!
The legislation has passed both the House and Senate. It will now head to the President’s desk for signature. If signed, we will meet with Army to develop procedures. All of this will take time. We have no further information. When information becomes available we will communicate with our customers.
Thank you,
Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer”
The language allowing the CMP to acquire and sell pistols is in National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The NDAA specifies the budget and expenditures for the U.S. military for the year and is required every year.
Under current federal law the CMP is only authorized to sell surplus .30 and .22 caliber military rifles, parts, and ammunition to qualified U.S. citizens “for marksmanship.” The CMP is best known for the sale of M1 Garand rifles but offers other rifles and ammunition on a “as-available” basis. The CMP is also involved in marksmanship training and competition programs.
The proposed change has had an up and down history. It was originally introduced in the house version of the bill, but was opposed by the administration and did not appear in earlier senate versions of the bill. My previous article, “Why You Won’t Buy a 1911 Pistol From the CMP Any Time Soon” relates some of the history of the bill and the rumors about CMP pistol sales.
Now that the new version of the NDAA has passed both the house and senate, it only needs to be signed by President Obama to become law. Note that the President does NOT have “line item veto” power, so the legislation will either be signed as it stands or vetoed entirely. While the administration has gone on record as opposing the sale of pistols by the CMP, it seems unlikely that this will be enough for the President to veto the entire bill.
buffalobo
10-13-2015, 17:40
Finally something cool done by Congress, too bad so late and such a rare occurance.
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So how much can I get a 1911 for now?
I'm excited it passed both, but heading to Obama....after his Mind numbing rants about gun control and now an opportunity to stop 100,000 handguns from getting onto the streets of the Wild West of America...ill be shocked if he even looks at his pen let alone pick it up to sign the thing.
Aloha_Shooter
10-13-2015, 18:02
Boards must be going wild at the CMP. People have been wanting this for at least 15 years I'm aware of.
hurley842002
10-13-2015, 18:14
LOL if anyone thinks Obama will sign it. Good on the House and Senate for doing the right thing tho.
Monkeys just might fly outta my ass after all.....
I always wanted an old 1911, wonder how much they will go for? It's rumored that my grandfather has one that he refuses to talk to me about.
BPTactical
10-13-2015, 19:01
LOL if anyone thinks Obama will sign it. Good on the House and Senate for doing the right thing tho.
And if he does, what is in the Trojan horse that comes with it??
hurley842002
10-13-2015, 19:38
And if he does, what is in the Trojan horse that comes with it??
Yup!
cmailliard
10-13-2015, 20:08
Be great to get more of these out there. I have my Grandpa's Remington Rand 1911.
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He was a Navigator on a B-24 in the 5th Air Force, 90th Bomber Group, 321st Squadron (Jolly Rogers) in WWII and Korea. He went on to work at SAC in Omaha with Gen. LeMay (no idea why the pic is sideways)
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He passed away two years ago this past week. His 1911 was one of the best things he ever gave me (besides wisdom, hard work ethic, and many other life lessons). These guns have so much history to them. I have wanted a Garand from WWII for a while, just never got around to trying to get one.
sneakerd
10-13-2015, 20:10
Don't get excited folks. Obama will NEVER sign it.
An insurge of fresh antiques should have the attention of hipsters everywhere!
Now if we can only get the CMP to carry dildos we would be considered equal opportunity!
Bailey Guns
10-13-2015, 20:50
The senate vote was 67/29 on Oct 7...well over the 2/3 required to override a veto. The house really wasn't close. Word is Obama will veto, but not because of the 1911 issue. So maybe differences can be resolved and that can be left in the NDAA, intact.
I need to make sure my CMP paperwork is in order.
This should be interesting.
I always wanted an old 1911, wonder how much they will go for? It's rumored that my grandfather has one that he refuses to talk to me about.
I've thought about that too.
M1s are selling for $300-400 less through the CMP than GB. I saw a CMP'd M1 at Cabelas for $1,400--can get one direct for $730 with shipping right now.
The 1911A1s will probably be re-arsenaled and some may be in bad shape. I bet CMP has to replace a lot of barrels. It wouldn't surprise me if they are in the $600-800 range.
For a shooter with a little collector's value it will be a good deal. But I wouldn't plan on getting something with real collector value like a pristine 1911A1 with honest wear.
Shits going to get sold out the day they post it.
Maybe they'll do a limit? (Hoping)
I think the folks buying as many as possible might get disappointed by the quality. And the market will be flooded which limits the opportunities to hard and flip.
I picked up a NIB O1991 last December with the Colt rebate for $640. Been a great shooter. There are even better deals for NIB 1991 if you're willing to buy foreign made. So if aren't in great condition I don't know where the demand would be.
But I was wrong about .22LR hoarding! :)
Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2015, 14:27
Most of the 1911s in US Army inventory are probably beat-up mixmasters, just like many of the M-1 Garands were. Let's face it, you're better off ordering from one of the top-notch gunsmiths if you want a good weapon. It's going to be hard to beat the Philippine copies if you just want a cheap .45. On the other hand, some people will want these just for the pure historic value. I'm sure there are vets out there who would be delighted to get one with a SN matching what they carried in Korea or Vietnam even if the slide, barrel, etc. have been replaced.
Wow I had no idea this was actually proceeding. We've been talking about this forever, and I assumed it would die early. This is good news, hope it moves forward.
Agreed though - the condition, etc. for these 1911s will probably leave a lot to be desired. But honestly, even if it weren't for collectible nature of the guns, it certainly sets a good precedent. It's a shame when you think about all the guns and ammo that are destroyed every year, when they could go to people that will care for them.
Obama vetoes $612 billion defense bill in rebuke to GOP (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-vetoes-dollar612-billion-defense-bill-in-rebuke-to-gop/ar-BBmkGcp?li=BBgzzfc)
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has vetoed a sweeping $612 billion defense policy bill in a rebuke to congressional Republicans.
Obama says the bill does a number of good things, but falls woefully short in other areas. He says it "resorts to gimmicks."
The White House invited reporters and photographers to watch Obama veto the bill in the Oval Office.
Obama says he opposes the bill because it uses creative budget maneuvers to boost defense spending by $38 billion without increasing domestic spending. Obama wants higher spending for both.
Obama also disapproves of provisions that would make it harder to close the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The veto forces Congress to revise the bill, or try to settle a larger budget dispute that led Obama to veto it.
DenverGP
12-04-2017, 23:11
Couldn't find the more recent post on the CMP 1911s, but with the possibility of the CMP getting the 1911s opening up again, I just got this notice from CMP:
From what I'm reading, it sounds like it'll be 2 background checks to get one? And it's going to be a random lottery system for picks.
CMP 1911 Information
To all CMP constituents:
The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.
Some preliminary decisions:
Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.
All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred.
Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.
Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.
Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.
Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.
The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.
When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.
As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.
Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
www.thecmp.org (http://www.thecmp.org)
DenverGP
12-04-2017, 23:22
So conversation over on the cmp forums confirmed that 2 background checks will be done, one by CMP as they currently do for all rifle purchases, and then they ship the gun to an FFL who will do another check before transferring the gun to the purchaser.
With a few correct WWII parts, a Rock Island Armory GI model makes a pretty good clone. A lot tighter and cheaper too. I have one that looks and shoots great, but I still can't upload photos here.
These surplus pistols are going to be snatched up by all the CMP frequent fliers, the collectors with deep pockets. The guys that buy their alloted quantity of M1's every year and pick all the cherries. I guarantee they're already in line, wouldn't be surprised if many of the best guns are already "promised" to "special customers". Yes, I'm a cynical bastard. But I used to hang out at that forum and seen their bragging a lot.
DenverGP
12-05-2017, 00:05
Well, according to the released info, it'll be purely lottery based for the first 10,000 people to submit orders, and no in-store sales, so it sounds like it's a very even playing field.
I've got an RIA, and I love it and shoot it all the the time, but will still probably take a shot at one of the CMP 1911s. Would love a chance at one to give to my vietnam vet father in law. He enjoyed my RIA, but really wants a true government issue like he carried.
Well, according to the released info, it'll be purely lottery based for the first 10,000 people to submit orders, and no in-store sales, so it sounds like it's a very even playing field.
I've got an RIA, and I love it and shoot it all the the time, but will still probably take a shot at one of the CMP 1911s. Would love a chance at one to give to my vietnam vet father in law. He enjoyed my RIA, but really wants a true government issue like he carried.
Good luck to ya! Hope you get a good one!
It will be interesting to see where they land on grades/pricing.
KevDen2005
12-05-2017, 07:51
Are they saying that sales could start in 150 days, or 150 days when they receive the 1911s and that is an unknown date?
I own a couple of 1911s now, but I would like to have one of these for sure.
kidicarus13
12-05-2017, 09:19
Everyone that wants one better start getting their papers in order...
1) proof of U.S. Citizenship
2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club
3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity
4) a new form 2A with notary
5) successful completion of a NICS background check
6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
It'll be too late to gather them after the pistols are released.
DenverGP
12-05-2017, 10:27
Are they saying that sales could start in 150 days, or 150 days when they receive the 1911s and that is an unknown date?
150 days from whenever they receive them, which is still an unknown date.
Everyone that wants one better start getting their papers in order...
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6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
It'll be too late to gather them after the pistols are released.
FFLs are going to love that one. I have yet to meet one that would provide a copy to me or a seller. It's always "have them call me." I think they are more comfortable dealing FFL-to-FFL.
Dlesh123
12-05-2017, 23:44
I have never had a problem getting a copy of a FFL's license to send in.
Kinda cool, yet I can't imagine these won't be beat to shit.
$1k+ for a rack grade 1911 is too damn much, even with history behind it, IMO.
wctriumph
12-07-2017, 09:37
No telling what they will want for them. I would guess that they will run from around $500 to $1000 depending on condition and I expect service grades will be around $700 - $750. I will be updating all of my information with the CMP after the first of the year and prepare my packet for mailing to be ready when notified of the 1911 release.
Martinjmpr
12-07-2017, 11:47
Kinda cool, yet I can't imagine these won't be beat to shit.
If they're anything like the M1911's we had when I was in the CO National Guard in the 1980's they can be field stripped just by shaking them vigorously. [ROFL2]
No telling what they will want for them. I would guess that they will run from around $500 to $1000 depending on condition and I expect service grades will be around $700 - $750. I will be updating all of my information with the CMP after the first of the year and prepare my packet for mailing to be ready when notified of the 1911 release.
https://www.thegunwriter.com/23661/cmp-general-manager-can-expect-pay-surplus-1911/
Pricing, Cooper said, is expected to be between $800-$1,000 for shooters.
“It’s hard to say exactly, but a good guess will be around $1,000 minimum,” he said. “One reason for this is that the 1911 is a very valuable pistol. Even though they may be shot out or busted up, we don’t want them falling into the hands of people who will just leave them in a glove box. We want a perceived value...
I know absolutely nothing about 1911's. About how much would it cost to completely run through the gun with new springs and whatever else would need to be replaced to make it a reliable shooter? Not self defense reliable, but range day.
Great-Kazoo
12-07-2017, 15:47
I know absolutely nothing about 1911's. About how much would it cost to completely run through the gun with new springs and whatever else would need to be replaced to make it a reliable shooter? Not self defense reliable, but range day.
Range day, probably nothing.
To go through it and make it CCW safe......Based on the $1K guesstimate Possibly $2-500. If you want one, like the Garand, for it's history go for it.
If you want a 45 for everyday use , buy a SA spend the extra money for ammo mags and a pistol class. You'll still have a few hundred in your pocket
I'm not concerned what these are selling for, just wondering what it'd cost to get one serviceable.
Great-Kazoo
12-07-2017, 18:01
I'm not concerned what these are selling for, just wondering what it'd cost to get one serviceable.
Depends what condition is of the one you get, how much it actually needs, OR how much you want to do to it. They should be serviceable / range ready upon purchase.
They should be serviceable / range ready upon purchase.
I think that depends on how they're graded. Could they have a 'wallhanger' type of category, like they do for long guns, where it's an assembly of parts that might be fun to have around as a piece of history?
I've seen some of the CMP rifles that were in better condition than their "grade" depending on how conservatively the grader was identifying the physical condition. YMMV.
If you want to be assured of a shooter, there are lots of other options.
Depends what condition is of the one you get, how much it actually needs, OR how much you want to do to it. They should be serviceable / range ready upon purchase.
I'll just bring it over once I have it.
OtterbatHellcat
12-07-2017, 21:21
Hmmm...you just want one of those "back rubs",....don't ya?
;)
https://www.thegunwriter.com/23661/cmp-general-manager-can-expect-pay-surplus-1911/
Pricing, Cooper said, is expected to be between $800-$1,000 for shooters.
“It’s hard to say exactly, but a good guess will be around $1,000 minimum,” he said. “One reason for this is that the 1911 is a very valuable pistol. Even though they may be shot out or busted up, we don’t want them falling into the hands of people who will just leave them in a glove box. We want a perceived value...
One of the dumbest quotes I've read. Nobody is buying a "shot out or busted up" 1911 for $1000 minimum. If a guy buys one of these and want to "leave them in a glove box" he has every right to do so.
Aloha_Shooter
12-08-2017, 17:43
I know absolutely nothing about 1911's. About how much would it cost to completely run through the gun with new springs and whatever else would need to be replaced to make it a reliable shooter? Not self defense reliable, but range day.
I'm not concerned what these are selling for, just wondering what it'd cost to get one serviceable.
Depends what condition is of the one you get, how much it actually needs, OR how much you want to do to it. They should be serviceable / range ready upon purchase.
Typical CMP practice is to work on rack/field/service-grade firearms so they are serviceable and range-ready before shipping. Anything that isn't serviceable or range ready will be either stripped for the parts bin, labeled as a non-shooter, or put in special auction.
My guess is that a rack-grade gun will be loose and beat up but safe-to-fire while a service-grade will have be fairly tight with light cosmetic damage but still well within mil-spec.
So, this isn't a CMP pistol, but the serial number places its production date as 1944, so it was probably a WWII gun. Seems to feed and function (unfired) fine, but there is hardly any finish left. It came with some ammo that is probably just as old, and a second magazine, but there is something wrong with the other mag. I'm not trying to say that this is reflective of CMP condition or anything like that, just showing an actual photo of a pistol from that time period. I'm interested to see what the CMP stuff actually looks like.
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Martinjmpr
12-12-2017, 10:13
When I was with the 220th MP Co, CO ARNG from 1983 - 86, that ^^^^^^ is pretty much what most of our pistols looked like. I don't recall that any of them had any blueing or phosphate finish left on them.
They did work, though.
WRT the condition of CMP weapons, back when it was called DCM in the early 90's, I got an M1 Garand that was gorgeous. It appeared to have been arsenal refinished before I bought it for the whopping sum of $250. :D
BladesNBarrels
12-12-2017, 16:21
Well,
CMP just announced new rules when and if the legislation passes.
Whole new category, CMP 1911, and all new procedures, applications, 2 Background Checks, Transfers to brick and mortar (storefront) FFL locations and no C&R Licenses.
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/1911-information/
Ok, as long as we're showing off... GF's grandfather's 1911. Manufactured in 1918. Next year we're going to throw it a birthday party and take it out and shoot it...
It's the only non-A1 I've ever seen in the flesh.
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Ok, as long as we're showing off... GF's grandfather's 1911. Manufactured in 1918. Next year we're going to throw it a birthday party and take it out and shoot it...
It's the only non-A1 I've ever seen in the flesh.
http://nankoweap.com/pictures/1918_1911.jpg
I'll probably stick my name in the hat so at least I have a [possible] option to purchase one. All depends on price and quality.
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Aloha_Shooter
12-14-2017, 16:04
SEC. 1091. Transfer of surplus firearms to Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearms Safety.
(a) Transfer requirement.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—During fiscal years 2018 and 2019, the Secretary of the Army shall transfer surplus caliber .45 M1911/M1911A1 pistols described in paragraph (2) to the Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearms Safety in accordance with this section.
(2) PISTOLS DESCRIBED.—The pistols described in this paragraph are surplus caliber .45 M1911/M1911A1 pistols and spare parts and related accessories for those pistols that, on the date of the enactment of this section, are under the control of the Secretary and are surplus to the requirements of the Department of the Army.
(3) NUMBER TO BE TRANSFERRED.—
(A) TOTAL NUMBER.—For any fiscal year, a total of not more than 10,000 surplus caliber .45 M1911/M1911A1 pistols may be transferred to the Corporation under this section and section 40728 of title 36, United States Code.
(B) FISCAL YEAR 2018.—For fiscal year 2018, not less than 8,000 surplus caliber .45 M1911/M1911A1 pistols shall be transferred to the Corporation pursuant to this section.
(4) TERMS OF TRANSFERS.—Subsections (b), (c), (d), (e), and (g) of section 40728 of title 36, United States Code, shall apply to a transfer under this section in the same manner such subsections apply to transfers of firearms under such section 40728.
Ok, as long as we're showing off... GF's grandfather's 1911. Manufactured in 1918. Next year we're going to throw it a birthday party and take it out and shoot it...
It's the only non-A1 I've ever seen in the flesh.
http://nankoweap.com/pictures/1918_1911.jpg
I'll probably stick my name in the hat so at least I have a [possible] option to purchase one. All depends on price and quality.
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Nice. My grandfather was issued a Colt M1917 revolver in WWI. My dad has it.
Bailey Guns
12-15-2017, 07:54
I have one from 1918, too. Little rough on the outside but looks new inside. No arsenal rework marks, original blue. Still shoots like a champ but bites the hell outta my hand.
I'm still gonna try for a CMP gun, though. I remember some older-timers who talked about buying them from DCM or CMP back in the early 60s for $17.
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DenverGP
01-29-2018, 17:39
Latest news from the CMP:
Status of the CMP 1911s, 1/29/2018:
The CMP has been authorized to receive 8,000 1911 type pistols from the United States Army.
The 1911s have been received by the CMP. A complete inventory will be conducted over the course of this week. The pistols will then be securely stored until the Army-approved 1911 building and armory infrastructure is completed. That completion is anticipated to be approximately 60 days from now. Once the 1911 armory is completed, inspection, grading, repair, and ultimately test firing of the pistols will begin. (Please be aware that the CMP was led to believe that we were ready to move forward, but three weeks ago facility requirements were changed, and we are now fulfilling those requirements.)
The CMP 1911 order packet will be posted 90 days prior to the order acceptance date and opening sales date. No orders will be accepted prior to that date. Please visit www.thecmp.org, click on the Sales icon then 1911 Information, for the latest. CMP customer service has been inundated with calls and emails concerning the 1911s and no further information is available at this time.
The CMP will keep everyone posted as we move through this process.
Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
www.thecmp.org
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