Police officer murdered in home

[KevDen2005]

http://www.leoaffairs.com/fallen-heroes/abilene-officer-murdered-at-home-in-planned-coordinated-attack-by-multiple-parties/

Lots of cops don't carry off duty and I'll never understand why. I ask everyone on this board to stay vigilant and if you see something suspicious in your neighborhood don't hesitate to call 911. It can save a life.

[Irving]

Not to take away from this tragedy, but I had no idea that law enforcement could get a search warrant for a whole cell tower.

[KevDen2005]

Not to take away from this tragedy, but I had no idea that law enforcement could get a search warrant for a whole cell tower.

I have actually never heard of that and it would be news to me as well. Maybe that's why they need federal help for something like that. But I really am not sure

[cstone]

Cell tower information. This is transactional data that indicates which phones are calling at what time and relative direction and distance the phone is from the specified tower. Orders can be written for multiple towers to recreate routes traveled and locations where the phone was stationary as well as associated numbers being called or making calls in order to build networks of associates.

These are fairly standard affidavits that have been written by LE to support investigations for about 20 years now.

Cell phones are basically complicated computer controlled duplex radios. Add some GPS mojo and Google Earth to make some very impressive courtroom presentation. Even without audio (court ordered wire tap) this type of information can be very convincing to judges, prosecutors, and juries.

Be safe.

[Bailey Guns]

Wow... That's scary.

[roberth]

I am sick of reading these stories but I don't know what I can do.

[theGinsue]

So this article says it was a "planned, coordinated attack" on this officer.

I'll be the first to say that I've had a few interactions with a few power-crazed/asshole police officers who continued to try to escalate situations even as I tried to de-escalate; yet I still have the greatest respect for the majority of LEO's and their profession at large.

I think that the situation of officers getting targeted/killed has exceeded the point where anyone can deny that there is a war from some element of our society (I'm not referring to specific races but more towards a criminally-minded demographic) on law enforcement and their goal is to kill as many LEO's as they can and achieve a little notoriety along the way.

We know that, without our help, LEO's are ineffective in controlling the vast amount of crime that occurs. There are a limited number of police officers and too many places to be at any one time; they just can't be everywhere. So, while seeking to limit the effects of crime they now have to watch their backs knowing they are targets. Solution? I believe that there are plenty of citizens that could help watch the backs of these officers without hindering their jobs or putting themselves into dangerous situations. Witness. You see something that puts the officer in danger, act quickly to say something.

Stay vigilant and (when the opportunity is present/right, thank an officer for doing their increasingly dangerous job.

[cstone]

I am sick of reading these stories but I don't know what I can do.

Don't read the stories.

It isn't like things have changed drastically.

Be safe.

[glock74]

People just don't have any respect for human life. Criminals just kill whoever and don't care if they die or go to prison.Prayers sent.

[cstone]

If you believe you are the most important thing on this planet, why would anyone who gets in your way of what you want, slow you down?

IMO, self importance, or pride, is the biggest thing that motivates most of the crime in the world.

I want what I want and damned be anyone who keeps it from me. Fame, recognition, drugs, wealth, power, etc... all to feed ME and who I think I am.

[gnihcraes]

I must say though, my experience is a lot of officers are not vigilant for themselves. Examples:

Casually walking down the street back to the office or car. Coat, Lunch box, Coffee in hand, by the time they could react, they are probably done.
Hanging out at their "post" for the day, chatting with the other officer, assuming nobody is going to come in that office building and start shooting.

I just think with the way things are, they would be a bit more attentive to their situation and surroundings.

I do what I can when in the areas to be a third set of eyes, minor things have happened and I believe I'm as much involved as the others, if not more. (non leo employees)

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[BushMasterBoy]

After vague reports plus FBI, Texas Rangers etc. I smell organized crime hit i.e. MS13,cartel,OMG etc.

[HoneyBadger]

Well, as unfortunate as it is, I cannot say that I'm surprised when you have bullshit like this circulating around the internet:

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[cstone]

This ignorant hatred is not new.


https://youtu.be/NPK80wZjgAY

We are better than this. Being led by those who hate or reacting with hatred toward those who hate will not improve our nation.

[TheGrey]

This killing of police officers is an outrage. I'm left dizzy with the number of reports over the past few weeks of officers being targeted. I am concerned- how much will this escalate?

It's like my ears are growing points and my eyes aren't open wide enough. I'm trying to work on situational awareness without being paranoid. It's an awfully fine line. I find myself scanning each cop car I pass, hoping there won't be an event.

[Great-Kazoo]

Not to take away from this tragedy, but I had no idea that law enforcement could get a search warrant for a whole cell tower.


I have actually never heard of that and it would be news to me as well. Maybe that's why they need federal help for something like that. But I really am not sure

They've been doing it for years. It's how they caught our nieces murders, 15+ years ago.

[roberth]

Don't read the stories.

It isn't like things have changed drastically.

Be safe.

I suppose I could do that, not likely to happen though.

I found some stats that support your assertion that things haven't changed drastically.

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

Must be the 24x7 news cycle giving us more information than before.

[ThunderSquirrel]

They've been doing it for years. It's how they caught our nieces murders, 15+ years ago.

I'm surprised they got a warrant. Read up on STINGRAYS and you'll find most agencies just use them regardless.

[Kraven251]

The problem with the criminal element declaring war on the police they are likely to get one. The problem with war in the streets, the collateral damage of any large scale conflict is extreme, the real problem one side cares very much about that aspect and the other does not.

I sincerely hope this de-escalates and soon.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm surprised they got a warrant. Read up on STINGRAYS and you'll find most agencies just use them regardless.

it's along story , other than 1 of the killers had been caught and the "ring leaders" family member rolled over on him, to avoid being included as an accomplice . They wanted this guy sooner than later.

[cstone]

I'm surprised they got a warrant. Read up on STINGRAYS and you'll find most agencies just use them regardless.

The problem with not getting a warrant is the admissibility of the evidence. Warrants are not that difficult to obtain if you know what you are doing.

I used to use a Triggerfish years ago. The temptation to turn on voice was there. The desire to make good cases, keep my job, and stay out of jail, were pretty good incentives to do thing the right way.

[OneGuy67]

The problem with not getting a warrant is the admissibility of the evidence. Warrants are not that difficult to obtain if you know what you are doing.

I used to use a Triggerfish years ago. The temptation to turn on voice was there. The desire to make good cases, keep my job, and stay out of jail, were pretty good incentives to do thing the right way.

And not many agencies have them. Several fed agencies do and will assist if the paper is there.

[Mazin]

Be safe out there our brothers in Blue!


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