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HoneyBadger
09-09-2015, 15:10
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/09/09/french-scientists-look-to-re-animate-ancient-giant-frankenvirus-found-in/?intcmp=hpbt3


We're going to kill ourselves off before we even get a chance to argue about the next pope...



It’s alive! Or that’s what scientists might say when they reanimate the so-called “frankenvirus,” a 30,000-year-old giant virus that was discovered in Siberia. The French researchers behind the find – published this week in PNAS, the journal from the U.S. National Academy of Sciences – warn that climate change could reawaken dangerous microscopic pathogens, reports (http://news.yahoo.com/frankenvirus-emerges-siberias-frozen-wasteland-142859117.html) Agence France-Presse.

Since 2003, the virus, known as Mollivirus sibericum, is the fourth kind of prehistoric virus unearthed overall, and the second one discovered by the research team.

The scientists made it clear that they must assess whether the virus could lead to diseases that are dangerous to humans or animals before they “wake it up.”

“A few particles that are still infectious may be enough, in the presence of a vulnerable host, to revive potentially pathogenic viruses,” said Jean-Michel Claverie, one of the lead researchers.

A giant virus has to be longer than half a micron, which is 0.00002 of an inch. By comparison, Mollivirus sibericum, clocks in at 0.6 microns, buried in the permafrost coating northeastern Russia.

Claverie warned that those seeking natural resources like oil in the region must be wary of these large, ancient viruses.

“If we are not careful, and we industrialize these areas without putting safeguards in place, we run the risk of one day waking up viruses such as small pox that we thought were eradicated,” he warned.

Interestingly, these ancient viruses are more complex genetic specimens than their modern counterparts.

Mollivirus sibericum contains more than 500 genes, which pales in comparison to the 2,500 genes belonging to a family of giant virus discovered in 2003. The modern flu – Influenza A – only has eight genes.

The main question surrounding this research is, of course, why? As the climate warms up and the permafrost in Siberia, for instance, starts to increasingly melt, the danger that similar viruses could be released is more of a possibility. For the French research team, studying Mollivirus sibericum could offer a clue to understanding these viruses more.
Related: Giant virus resurrected from permafrost after 30,000 years (http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/04/giant-virus-resurrected-after-30000-years/)

rondog
09-09-2015, 15:18
Oh that's just lovely.....

cstone
09-09-2015, 15:20
Well it was bound to happen at some point.

Which SHTF weapon will work best in a virus/infectious apocalypse?

HoneyBadger
09-09-2015, 15:28
Well it was bound to happen at some point.

Which SHTF weapon will work best in a virus/infectious apocalypse?
Weapon? I was thinking more like a giant HAZMAT bubble around my house. While I sit inside my bathtub filled with hand sanitizer. With a hi-point 9mm. (because who would want to rob a weird naked guy in a bathtub of hand sanitizer for a hi-point?) [Flower]

BushMasterBoy
09-09-2015, 15:28
Flamethrower...

Zundfolge
09-09-2015, 15:29
Who thinks this is a good idea?

HoneyBadger
09-09-2015, 15:32
Who thinks this is a good idea?
I think there have probably been more than a dozen movies where the plot builds on an event like this.

brutal
09-09-2015, 15:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjIXwkX1e48

ZERO THEORY
09-09-2015, 15:33
Which SHTF weapon will work best in a virus/infectious apocalypse?

Intellect.

Quarantine and patience trumps any rifle in a pandemic situation.

Monky
09-09-2015, 15:38
You should probably read the whole article... It's a French research team... they found it in Siberia.. Cali is turning you into a liberal quickly..

newracer
09-09-2015, 15:55
This will be the start of the zombie apocalypse.

Aloha_Shooter
09-09-2015, 15:56
Honestly, if solar activity creates enough thawing to let these viruses wake up on their own, we are better off knowing what they are like before that happens. At least waking it in a lab means they have means to analyze and contain it.

clodhopper
09-09-2015, 16:22
Who thinks this is a good idea?

Well, the researchers for one, I would guess the funding agency manager, ...........



:)

Sawin
09-09-2015, 16:49
Honestly, if solar activity creates enough thawing to let these viruses wake up on their own, we are better off knowing what they are like before that happens. At least waking it in a lab means they have means to analyze and contain it.

My thoughts as well...

asmo
09-09-2015, 16:50
We had to resurrect Cthulhu sooner or later.

Cthulhu for President 2016. Why chooser the lesser of two evils?

HoneyBadger
09-09-2015, 16:53
You should probably read the whole article... It's a French research team... they found it in Siberia.. Cali is turning you into a liberal quickly..
You're right. I read the article, but somehow mixed that up. I'd better read my ballot pretty carefully when the primaries start... [hammer]

Honestly, if solar activity creates enough thawing to let these viruses wake up on their own, we are better off knowing what they are like before that happens. At least waking it in a lab means they have means to analyze and contain it.
That's HOW THE MOVIES ALWAYS START OFF! [panic]



[Coffee]



Edit: Thanks for fixing the thread title to accurately reflect what happened.

Monky
09-09-2015, 17:24
I didn't say that... Aloha did.. Qtf


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Bailey Guns
09-09-2015, 17:24
How did I know that, somehow, there would be a "global warming" element to this story?

JohnnyDrama
09-09-2015, 17:28
HoneyBadger nailed it.

I wonder if the French research team has exposed the critters to UV?

BushMasterBoy
09-09-2015, 18:02
Whatever you do, don't get it on your junk!

68Charger
09-09-2015, 18:06
How did I know that, somehow, there would be a "global warming" element to this story?

This was my red flag... apparently there's not enough panic from "climate change" itself, so they try to up the ante.... even if the risk is considered low by the general public, if you increase the penalty/punishment, then it gets more attention. (basically the opposite of lotto vs Powerball/Megacrap)

Apparently the statistics class I took has had some impact on my though process...

roberth
09-09-2015, 18:11
Now I'm all hungry.

Duman
09-09-2015, 19:47
How are they planning to wake it up? A croissant and coffee?

Monky
09-09-2015, 19:49
It's the same story of the melting Siberian stuff since the first one they found years ago..


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gnihcraes
09-09-2015, 20:07
We have Medical Marijuana, it will be OK.

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Great-Kazoo
09-09-2015, 21:42
Who thinks this is a good idea?

Who thinks this hasn't been done numerous times, without all the fanfare? CWD was a fluke / mutation of nature...............keep on believing that one.

Mick-Boy
09-09-2015, 22:44
http://www.radiolab.org/story/shrink/?utm_source=local&utm_medium=treatment&utm_campaign=daMost&utm_content=damostviewed

This was the subject of a Radiolab podcast a couple of weeks ago. Interesting stuff, I'm not too concerned.

Gman
09-09-2015, 22:53
They lost me at "climate change".

MrPrena
09-10-2015, 00:30
That is a big@ss virus.


http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2015/55ef0cf632c94.jpg

http://phys.org/news/2015-09-frankenvirus-emerges-siberia-frozen-wasteland.html

Gman
09-11-2015, 21:38
If we have truly evolved to our current form, wouldn't our progenitors have already had to face and survive this virus? Why the worry? [Sarcasm2]

theGinsue
09-11-2015, 23:38
Over time, many of the developed defense mechanisms in the body genetically disappear if the threat hasn't been present during that time. This makes animals once again susceptible to things we were genetically protected from at one time in our (humankind/animal-kind) existence.

Skip
09-12-2015, 09:13
[ROFL2] at the stupid.

This and other stories (Iran nukes, open borders) kind of put things like our mag ban in perspective. The "authorities" can wield weapons grade stupid with the potential to kill millions but I can't buy a 30 round mag. Because "the children."

I like how they justify it with climate change too... They want catastrophic consequences whether climate change is man-made or not.

Alpha2
09-12-2015, 16:23
I saw this also, and had the same reaction. The stupid is strong in this one...

BushMasterBoy
09-13-2015, 16:58
Flame thrower...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-incredibly-dangerous-weapon-that-is-legal-almost-everywhere/2015/09/08/1a0713da-4cdb-11e5-84df-923b3ef1a64b_story.html?tid=hybrid_experimentrando m_1_na